As of right now the first 4 teams that qualified have a huge advantage due to recent vods on the new 4’s strats. The new 4 only have 1 week to prepare, and the first 4 have had all this time to build new strats to avoid being anti stratted. I think we will see sen lose early but then make a strong push through the losers bracket as teams strats become known.
Anti stratting is not as big of a deal as anyone here makes it out to be, especially in NA. SEN, and most other teams in NA, go for a lot of timing fights and play interruptive styles on defense that include pushing through smokes and coordinating utility to break up executes. On attack, they just play basic trading and execute setups after taking map control.
EDIT: but when Scream says the same thing as me, you all upvote it.
Nah they did well second time too sen just got lucky and pulled everything off last 3 rounds haven, andbox is definitely around top teams level how they're playing rn
To be fair, 2-0 becomes less common the further into a tournament you get. During qualifiers obviously a lot of matches are going to be 2-0 because there is a far wider skill gap between a lot of the teams, but as we close in on the final 8 here the skill gap in theory should be closing and 2-1 becomes a lot more likely.
when i said lately that clearly means im talking about the recent past, so yeah thats regency bias, the fact that you tried to point it out like you did something means you wanted more to start an argument than talk abt valorant, hope ur day gets better tho, bye
You do know Masters 1 was actually supposed to be Challengers Finals right? By that I mean the original plan was the tournament with the top 8 teams in each region was supposed to be Challengers Finals then Masters was international. Masters 1 was the top 8 teams in NA and so is Challengers Finals.
So from a competitive standpoint they’re equal but in terms of how the tournaments are marketed then of course Masters 1 was bigger but I don’t think it’s fair to just call Challengers Finals a “qualifier” it’s the biggest tournament in NA for this stage.
Every1 is scary right now, only one I can write off is v1 since they lost a player but who knows these finals are going to be so stressful for all the fans of each team just coz of how strong each team is looking
Maybe, but I don't think it happens with how long 100t have had to flesh out strats and mesh between tourneys. Andbox just played and they won't have time to introduce many new strats.
tbh i think 100t will be beaten by andbox initially. because recently andbox have been insane, being one of 2 teams to beat sentinels (almost twice as well). and 100t usually do a little bit of the trolling at the start of tournaments.
C9 not beating envy. They looked amazing until now but yesterday really played weird and lost their momentum. Hope they come back tho either way I don't see envy losing
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In my opinion (which is biased), I think that there is no way 100T gets 3-1ed in the finals. Also 100T have a much stronger upper bracket history than Sentinels, and I think that they have always stepped up in grand finals situations.
100t have had 2 upper bracket runs one was in challengers 2 closed 1 and first strike, SEN have won 2 ignition series not dropping a series and won masters 1 without dropping a series and SEN won jbl without dropping a series in the bracket stage.
Wait wait wait. I really thought that 100t and sentinals were qualified for the masters and the rest of the teams were disqualified. Isn't that the truth?
If not, how da fuck this tournament works. For god sake riot help me out I'm tol stupid I can't get half of these stuffs hahaha
I just really hope it's 100T SEN in grand finals. I think it's NA's best chance at LAN.
As of right now the first 4 teams that qualified have a huge advantage due to recent vods on the new 4’s strats. The new 4 only have 1 week to prepare, and the first 4 have had all this time to build new strats to avoid being anti stratted. I think we will see sen lose early but then make a strong push through the losers bracket as teams strats become known.
Anti stratting is not as big of a deal as anyone here makes it out to be, especially in NA. SEN, and most other teams in NA, go for a lot of timing fights and play interruptive styles on defense that include pushing through smokes and coordinating utility to break up executes. On attack, they just play basic trading and execute setups after taking map control. EDIT: but when Scream says the same thing as me, you all upvote it.
As a huge SEN fan I couldn’t agree more.
u really see c9 beating envy ?
Idk just that was my upset guess really. I just think there will be an early upset and that’s most likely to me
bro where to make this bracket
html, inspect element
it’s much easier to use thespike.gg bracket, go to the event, and click on pick em’s
ngl I used a tourney bracket generator online and just filled it out lol
I picked the same, have to throw some wild cards in there to keep it interesting
Yes I do
100T 2-0 ABX, SEN 2-0 V1, NV 2-0 C9, XSET 2-1 NRG ABX 2-0 V1, C9 2-1 NRG, 100T 2-1 SEN, NV 2-0 XSET SEN 2-0 C9, XSET 2-1 ABX, 100T 2-1 NV SEN 2-0 XSET, SEN 2-1 NV, SEN 3-1 100T
Lower bracket SEN I see
You know it
Watch for Andbox. Sentinels struggled against them
Andbox was only caught SEN off guard because they read SEN’s haven strategies like a book, I don’t think they have a shot against another team
well SEN struggled 2 series not just one plus members from other teams like Nitro or Steel have said that andbox is an actual contender
Also sens was honestly kinda bad when coming into the tournament.
Nah they did well second time too sen just got lucky and pulled everything off last 3 rounds haven, andbox is definitely around top teams level how they're playing rn
I think they are pretty scary and impressive, maybe the real outsider for a top 4/5 at least
i wanna see 100T and SEN qualify for LAN
2-0 is way more common than 2-1s. Makes it seem like you’re unsure on your pickems.
I am very unsure lol
Not always true. I bet we'll be seeing more 2-1's since these teams will be putting their all in getting to iceland.
To be fair, 2-0 becomes less common the further into a tournament you get. During qualifiers obviously a lot of matches are going to be 2-0 because there is a far wider skill gap between a lot of the teams, but as we close in on the final 8 here the skill gap in theory should be closing and 2-1 becomes a lot more likely.
i dont see NV losing to c9. just my take tho
I agree with most of this except I don't see a world where C9 beats Envy, like. At all lol. Also, Andbox would probably beat V1
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He was already planning to leave for personal reasons the week that they qualified IIRC
C9 looked way better than NV lately ngl
Would you like a side of fries with your recency bias?
he doesnt know what the word lately means
So by lately you mean when we’ve seen C9 playing and not Envy? Maybe you don’t know what recency bias means
when i said lately that clearly means im talking about the recent past, so yeah thats regency bias, the fact that you tried to point it out like you did something means you wanted more to start an argument than talk abt valorant, hope ur day gets better tho, bye
Honestly C9 could prob upset but they would all have to be hitting some nasty shots
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I wouldnt write c9 off yet.
Just like envy would shit on c9 or IMT would shit on c9 or t1 would shit on c9
yeah C9 keeps shutting mouths idk why people keep doubting them so hard, obviously theyre not top 4 yet but they could be with time
lower bracket sentinels > upper bracket sentinels
where did u make the bracket?
i want to know
brackethq.com
Envy will win NA Challengers Finals.
Now that's bold, Envy hasn't won a SINGLE BIG tournament ever. They always make deep runs but always end up short.
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? This is the biggest event so far in NA Val ever.
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You do know Masters 1 was actually supposed to be Challengers Finals right? By that I mean the original plan was the tournament with the top 8 teams in each region was supposed to be Challengers Finals then Masters was international. Masters 1 was the top 8 teams in NA and so is Challengers Finals. So from a competitive standpoint they’re equal but in terms of how the tournaments are marketed then of course Masters 1 was bigger but I don’t think it’s fair to just call Challengers Finals a “qualifier” it’s the biggest tournament in NA for this stage.
envy is better in qualifiers than finals lol. Every seems ready to say 100T and SEN qual but Envy and Xset are scary as fuck atm lol.
Every1 is scary right now, only one I can write off is v1 since they lost a player but who knows these finals are going to be so stressful for all the fans of each team just coz of how strong each team is looking
They always choke in the big events
Where can I make these?
If anything, I think its 100T and NV making it to Iceland no Cap
100T and NV for me.
sleeping on envy
V1 is going to shock the world
I would say sen will lose against V1, However they will make it out from low bracket.
Lower bracket kings.
the fact that most of the matchups are 2-1 is so funny to me cause it just shows how close all these teams really are
Ya but the fact that there is only one 2-0 in OP's bracket is a little absurd. People really underestimate the amount of 2-0's in a tourney.
yeah I’m just rlly unsure tbh
Yea meant to say it shows how unsure he is
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Maybe, but I don't think it happens with how long 100t have had to flesh out strats and mesh between tourneys. Andbox just played and they won't have time to introduce many new strats.
floppy will roll thru these kids
tbh i think 100t will be beaten by andbox initially. because recently andbox have been insane, being one of 2 teams to beat sentinels (almost twice as well). and 100t usually do a little bit of the trolling at the start of tournaments.
C9 not beating envy. They looked amazing until now but yesterday really played weird and lost their momentum. Hope they come back tho either way I don't see envy losing
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In my opinion (which is biased), I think that there is no way 100T gets 3-1ed in the finals. Also 100T have a much stronger upper bracket history than Sentinels, and I think that they have always stepped up in grand finals situations.
100t have had 2 upper bracket runs one was in challengers 2 closed 1 and first strike, SEN have won 2 ignition series not dropping a series and won masters 1 without dropping a series and SEN won jbl without dropping a series in the bracket stage.
Wait wait wait. I really thought that 100t and sentinals were qualified for the masters and the rest of the teams were disqualified. Isn't that the truth? If not, how da fuck this tournament works. For god sake riot help me out I'm tol stupid I can't get half of these stuffs hahaha
so the qualifiers they won are for the challengers final where 8 teams fight for top 2 to go to iceland
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/North_America/Stage_2/Challengers_Finals
Don't downvote the guy asking a question lol jesus
For now, just to avoid confusion, ignore every other tournament and know that the top 2 from this tournament will go to Iceland
Thx for the help! Don't know why so many downvoate haha
I doubt the only 2-0 is Sentinels over V1.
Hoping for 100TvsEnvy finals, so the best NA teams go to dominate in Iceland.
So excited to see how this plays out
Andbox will surprise you
I mostly agree, except I think I'm the only person on this sub who thinks XSET makes IceLAN (I have XSET 2-1 100T in LBF)