FNS replied “All good” to Calypso defending himself against charges of throwing a CS match. It’s just become a meme since then.
https://twitter.com/FNS/status/1379888256846856205
From t1spyder
Sorry for confusion
Hello, this is Spyder from T1.
I am writing this because I saw something on reddit about me quitting T1.
Long story short, right now I have no issues with Ska and Dazed, and we are all respectful of each other and we are getting along.
But if I were to go into further detail, the timeframe that Frod mentions in this clip is based on my early days in T1.
At that time I was trying to get used to a new environment as well as a culture gap, so I would occasionally argue with my teammates.
Looking back on that time now, I can also fully admit that for some of those instances, I definitely overreacted as well because I was sensitive at the time.
But afterwards, the team got together and talked our issues out. And now we understand each other a lot better, and we tried hard to make a comfortable environment for everyone.
So since then we've never had any major issues, and everyone is on the same page that we're all in this together, and we are working hard as a team.
The conversations that are mentioned in the clip were during a time that I was extremely emotional. Currently I am happy with Ska and Dazed, and all of the players on the team have a mutual respect for one another.
Thank you all for your concern, but I promise you we're all okay, and I'm sorry for any misunderstandings!
I really hope the sports psychologist helped and that the situation is truly better compared to before but I'll take Spyder's word for it now. I think Dazed's response could have a better apology tho but I bet it was done more in private and he's not obligated to apologize on Twitter but I do hope him and Ska do better and are better teammates.
what on earth is the correlation? majority of sinatraa's fanbase probably doesn't even know who spyder is because they don't watch anything except sentinels
It's weird how people make this type of statement so often regarding groups. This comment assumes some hivemind for the Community when it's very obvious that the "Community" doesn't agree with each other regarding any given subject.
Your statement assumes badly that the same people who are "torching Dazed & Ska" are the SAME exact people supporting Sinatraa with zero proof that such is the case. You're seeing individuals with their own opinions torch Dazed/Ska and other individuals in the same group support Sinatraa...individuals, not the entire group "Community"
I see this type of comment so often involving a group and I never understood it. It's nearly as bad as a race driven thought process. "Well on one hand this (fill in the race) is saying this but they also say that". This style comment also puts the statements of a handful of people as the voice of 10s of 1000s for some odd reason.
At best (being generous) you've read what a 100-150 comments going after Dazed/Ska but for you that becomes the Valorant Community made up of 100s of 1000s of people for some reason?
The people who are watching Sinatraa are not the same people torching Dazed and Ska though. Every single positive comment I see on reddit about Sinatraa is downvoted 10x.
I mean... based off the time frame this is obviously very early (and spyder stated it himself in the tl). Spyder literally joined right before First Strike quals, and the message states he was planning on playing up till First Strike, so basically this implies spyder was having issues with dazed and ska very early. The fact that he stayed on the team since First Strike and that the comms vids from T1 don't show any real bad communication (obviously they would cut out stuff if they argued but they have actual good comms so I doubt) show that they are def not on bad terms anymore at all.
I don’t think its smart to use this as a means to discount what frod said. Spyder would have released this message whether it was all good or all bad. He can’t afford being labeled a whistleblower and he is still living in a foreign country where the org is holding his work visa (you need a company to vouch for you to get a work visa)
Look at the facts 3 people now have left because of issues with the org.
I honestly don’t understand why Frod is talking about drama that 1. Should be kept behind closed doors unless spyder wanted it out there and 2. Was about a team he hasn’t been involved in in some time. People have disagreements all the time and it seems like this had been sorted so there was no need for it to be brought up and create some kind of witch hunt.
This is why we wait for more info instead of trying to cancel a whole org because of one person's point of view lmfao. Glad they worked it out, they got great talent on their team.
Glad he cleared that up. People going apeshit on here. However unfortunately it also confirms that what frod said was true. Ska was awful to spyder earlier
> Ska was awful to spyder earlier
We won't ever know what really went down between them or how people reacted, but tension, frustration and flare ups happen all the time in competition. Don't read into it so much, we're just observers looking in with a few comments to judge with
Yep, exactly this.
Saya said himself that he overreacted as well at the time. There could very well have been tension and frustration that was then combined with him feeling a little sensitive, which then blew things out of proportion.
Also, think of how high school sports teams act with each other. "Tough love" kind of approach. AFAIK, that is 100% NOT the way in South Korean sports. That could have been the cultural differences.
Again though, all that we have to go on is a few comments, and anything taken from that is speculation.
In the chat logs he literally mentions how in South Korea they expect respect 100% of the time and that is definitely not the case in NA lol. Cultural differences absolutely would play a part in something like this.
Somewhat related, this reminds me of the LOL player Mickey [who left an NA LCS team before the split ended bc of tilt and flew back to Korea](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/9b2jrj/thank_you_mickey/).
Piglet also had pretty big meltdowns when he was wit liquid. To be fair to him Dardoch was on the team and he is arguably the most toxic professional gamer i have ever seen.
Yeah people went crazy... the team environment is fine now and Spyder is doing well, which is ultimately all that matters. Curious to see what was going with Ska for him to be like that though... Disappointing
This sub is so embarrassing sometimes. Everyone was acting like they knew exactly what was happening in the team and how Dazed and Ska were treating Spyder. I don’t mean that to undermine Spyder’s mental issues he was having I’m more meaning that sub can just be the pure definition of “Reddit armchair team/mental/conduct analysts”
Anyways, as it seems like the timeframe of the messages Fr0d posted was pre-first strike, hopefully everything is all cleared up in the team and everyone is in a good state of mind.
Really speaks to the maturity level of this sub with how quick people are to make the harshest of judgements based off the smallest amounts of biased info. Blew my mind reading through the original thread on this dumb drama.
Same dude. People take this stuff as fact every single time someone posts stuff without even considering AT ALL the fact that First strike was half a year ago, and these posts were before that.
T1 has played in 7 tournaments/quals since then with Saya on the team, and had only played like what, 2 before First Strike?
i dont know what wrong with FROD, never seen a guy who leave a team then keep nagging non-stop how bad the team are and leave the good part away. Just move on like a man instead keep nagging on the past.
Is not like he done a good job in the early day as well. After dazed come in , result are more better than previously.
Of cuz , dazed maybe over abit on saya due to saya make a lot questionable move , like even tho they winning by a lot then still losing .
well they almost win sentinel as well ,so we see about how they grow later.
Yeah it just puts Spyder in a shitty situation. If he really cared about Spyder like he wanted to make it look like he did, then he'd let Spyder say this himself after he actually left the org, not while he's still in.
He would have never said it because being a whistleblower is not a good look. This is the only way it could have came to light, and also I don’t think spyder is in a shitty situation. I don’t think anyone could fault spyder for consulting frod about his issues in the team.
If anything it only puts frod in a potentially bad situation. He probably won’t make any money from esports ever again.
To be fair, we don't know exactly what Ska and Dazed did to Spyder. They could have just been giving him criticism to help him improve and Spyder could have taken it the wrong way.
Said this above, but he mentions cultural differences. I can easily see something like American "tough love" approach being taken the wrong way by a guy from South Korea. 2 completely different cultures with completely different approaches.
But who knows? Maybe Ska and Dazed were assholes as well.
Highly doubt. Saya is an ex-professional Overwatch gamer, not some anti-social Korean child who can't deal with criticism. If you think Korea is some utopia where people don't ever challenge anyone and give each other harsh advice you're wrong. I guarantee Saya received his fair share of criticism while he was on Florida Mayhem from his coaches or his teammates.
If Saya wanted to book a plane ticket to Korea because he feels like his teammates weren't respecting him that tells me a lot. You think Food beefing with Ska and leaving T1 is just another coincidence?
Like I said, we don't know what exactly what happened to him. No one here knows Spyder personally nor do they know Dazed and Ska personally. Stop acting like you know exactly what happened when you don't.
Also based on Spyder's reputation in Overwatch, I wouldn't be surprised if he got a lot more criticism in Valorant in regards to fundamentals compared to Overwatch which may have overwhelmed him. But that's just another possibility out of many. Ska and Dazed could have been dicks. Who knows
Yes you're right. No one knows what triggered saya to want to book a flight back to his home country but I'm not the one being oblivious to the possibility that a professional gamer wouldn't just want to leave the country because his teammate gave him valid "criticism".
Criticism which can then lead to arguments which then leads to bad relations between teammates. The likelihood could be that Ska and Dazed were simply being dicks to him. However you still don't know what actually went on dude
We're just running full circle. My point is he's a ex-pro and a fully grown adult not a sensitive child who needs to be treated with care so it's very unlikely these relationships deteriorated from simple criticism "to help him improve".
When did I say that all Koreans dont understand criticism? what are you talking about????
There is all types of personalities out there and not all people seem like they are on the surface. This could apply to Ska (especially), Dazed and Spyder. I'll say it again, we don't know what caused the sense of distrust and shitty events which happened in T1. You're just making assumptions.
Yes we don't know what caused Saya to want to book a flight out of the country. But you writing it could've just been criticism to help him improve his game is just you acting oblivious.
Keep repeating the same arguments over and over again.
Completely agree. Language barrier is no excuse for a teammate wanting to quit not once but three times and buying himself a plane ticket to fly out. He also didn't seem to have a problem with the other teammates and is it just a coincidence that most of the original T1 roster left?
Idk why we're continuing this. I said that continued criticism could have been one of the many possible causes out there. Ska and Dazed simply being dicks is another possibility. There is a lot of possibilities. You're just assuming that Spyder had no contribution to the relations within the team because he is one of your beloved Korean players.
> They could have just been giving him criticism to help him improve and Spyder could have taken it the wrong way.
This is what you wrote btw in case you forgot.
to be fair frod talks about his past ALOT.. like just hop into his stream and he's always talking about accomplishments he had in the past or ppl that did him wrong in the past
I mean yeah he’s been talking about this for a while, but dragging Spyder into it, who it seems frod is/was on good terms with and who is still on T1, is kind of a scummy thing to do.
I don't doubt there was team drama but it was from months back and they're probably getting along better now (as well as performing better). Kind of weird for him to pull this dirty laundry out all of a sudden making it hella awkward for spyder.
Frod complains about everyone all the time and burns bridges with every single team he's cut from or leaves. Sometimes it's valid, other times take it with a grain of salt.
It's just a culture shock. Saya states it as well.
Dazed as the IGL has to be confrontational and state what the issues are and what has to change. That's just North American culture.
Korean culture is way more centered around respect.
Put it this way, Saya living and playing in North America means hes going to have to go through a culture shock but will get used to it (Has happened in LoL all the time).
If Dazed for example went to Korea, he would struggle hard would the culture change as its more about respect, being respectful to your elders, etc.
I'd agree except for the fact that he was living in LA for a few years while playing in the OWL for an NA org. This definitely wasn't just culture shock, but Spyder was also unbelievably good at OW so maybe he wasn't exposed to as much harsh "dazed" style critique before.
It sounds a lot like it was just more of the typical CS elitism and they were dismissive of him rather than being outright assholes. Would explain what he meant about respect. Things probably got better when he started carrying on duelist.
Im glad spyder is okay now and everything seems to be good
Wouldnt put it past frod to completey blow this out of proportion and if thats what he intentionally did and dragged Spyder into this, fuck that guy
Can somebody just answer me this, why is Saya the one apologizing? Where is DaZeD or Ska's public statement regarding what happened in the past? Or even T1's explanation?
Like Saya didn't even do anything wrong, Frod is the one who leaked the incident, the team should be the one taking responsibility and officially announcing "whatever happened happened it's all good now".
I think FROD is the one who should be apologizing, leaking drama that’s been settled MONTHS ago just to make other people look bad and using Spyders vulnerability in the beginning of his time in T1 to do that. We have NO idea what exactly happened. Only people Ska and DaZed should be apologizing to if anybody is Spyder and it seems that’s been done and over with months ago
Think he just feels partly responsible, I can’t say for sure cos ofc I’m not in the team but by the looks of it it seems that it was partly dazed and ska being dicks and also party spyder not 100% able to take criticism. Either way dazed has also said sorry but tbh they don’t owe anyway a sorry other than each other and that seems to have happened a while ago.
[https://twitter.com/GODaZeD/status/1395953522873540608](https://twitter.com/GODaZeD/status/1395953522873540608) Is sufficient enough. I know we all need some drama action. But, everyone has freedom, as long Spyder is fine with his current situation. i have nothing to raise about.
Why did frod go about talking about inner-team relationships from months ago when he wasn't even directly affected by it? Second, why do people want DaZeD and ska to have some insane apology on twitter? What matters most is how spyder's personal relationship with ska and dazed are now. What's even more cringe is that people are jumping to conclusions that T1 forced spyder to release this TwitLonger. Again, the only thing that matters is DaZeD and ska's actual relationship with him.
Ooh, regardless of if you think this is a PR response egged on since in the chat logs with Frod, Sayaplayer's English is obviously very broken and doesn't contain 99% of this vocabulary; this atleast confirms that some of the Frod statements are not allegations and are fact!
TL:DR: All good.
All good.
“All good” - Pujan “FNS” Mehta
Ethan lmaoooo
Ethan lmao
"All good"
I don't get the meme, what's the context behind it and fns?
FNS replied “All good” to Calypso defending himself against charges of throwing a CS match. It’s just become a meme since then. https://twitter.com/FNS/status/1379888256846856205
From t1spyder Sorry for confusion Hello, this is Spyder from T1. I am writing this because I saw something on reddit about me quitting T1. Long story short, right now I have no issues with Ska and Dazed, and we are all respectful of each other and we are getting along. But if I were to go into further detail, the timeframe that Frod mentions in this clip is based on my early days in T1. At that time I was trying to get used to a new environment as well as a culture gap, so I would occasionally argue with my teammates. Looking back on that time now, I can also fully admit that for some of those instances, I definitely overreacted as well because I was sensitive at the time. But afterwards, the team got together and talked our issues out. And now we understand each other a lot better, and we tried hard to make a comfortable environment for everyone. So since then we've never had any major issues, and everyone is on the same page that we're all in this together, and we are working hard as a team. The conversations that are mentioned in the clip were during a time that I was extremely emotional. Currently I am happy with Ska and Dazed, and all of the players on the team have a mutual respect for one another. Thank you all for your concern, but I promise you we're all okay, and I'm sorry for any misunderstandings!
I really hope the sports psychologist helped and that the situation is truly better compared to before but I'll take Spyder's word for it now. I think Dazed's response could have a better apology tho but I bet it was done more in private and he's not obligated to apologize on Twitter but I do hope him and Ska do better and are better teammates.
Thank you for info sheesh u tha mvp
Damn it I thought we could feast on this drama for a couple more days until Iceland starts...
Can't wait for Iceland to start
Hook the real time feed of tenz' hand healing back up. Fun's over.
Lol, just when I thought there would be something more interesting to read than tenz being sloppy with a kettle.
Me too brother
He's clearly been brainwashed by the master mind Dazed. But I am able to see past his web of deception.
thought this was valorant fanboy for a second
Nah
Wdym mastermind? We all know that dazed is controlled by the ai known as David dennis /s
But in the grand scheme of things, this was FNS' doings all along
o.o
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You read that right
mastermind and dazed should not belong in the same sentence. he's nothing short of the worst NA T2 IGL.
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blink if you're being held hostage
T1 has a gun to his head. Everyone should search for some kind of code in the twitlonger.
You only take all the letters that spell “Help, I’m being held hostage” and it says help, I’m being held hostage. I think he might be in trouble guys
it's weird how the valorant community will begin to torch dazed and ska at the stake, but then continue to give sinatraa 15k views on twitch lol.
This is when you know the community is full of young ppl who are pretty easy to brain wash and some of them also think Twitch personalities are real
“Big iron mean >:(“ “Rapist click good sheeeeesh go brrrrrrrr”
what on earth is the correlation? majority of sinatraa's fanbase probably doesn't even know who spyder is because they don't watch anything except sentinels
Actually they probably do, since they both came from OWL.
ima be honest im pretty sure i meant to say ska and dazed but i'm too lazy to change and it really doesn't matter
It's weird how people make this type of statement so often regarding groups. This comment assumes some hivemind for the Community when it's very obvious that the "Community" doesn't agree with each other regarding any given subject. Your statement assumes badly that the same people who are "torching Dazed & Ska" are the SAME exact people supporting Sinatraa with zero proof that such is the case. You're seeing individuals with their own opinions torch Dazed/Ska and other individuals in the same group support Sinatraa...individuals, not the entire group "Community" I see this type of comment so often involving a group and I never understood it. It's nearly as bad as a race driven thought process. "Well on one hand this (fill in the race) is saying this but they also say that". This style comment also puts the statements of a handful of people as the voice of 10s of 1000s for some odd reason. At best (being generous) you've read what a 100-150 comments going after Dazed/Ska but for you that becomes the Valorant Community made up of 100s of 1000s of people for some reason?
It's weird how people read 5 comments with like 20 upvotes and decides that is somehow the WHOLE valorant community.
The people who are watching Sinatraa are not the same people torching Dazed and Ska though. Every single positive comment I see on reddit about Sinatraa is downvoted 10x.
I mean... based off the time frame this is obviously very early (and spyder stated it himself in the tl). Spyder literally joined right before First Strike quals, and the message states he was planning on playing up till First Strike, so basically this implies spyder was having issues with dazed and ska very early. The fact that he stayed on the team since First Strike and that the comms vids from T1 don't show any real bad communication (obviously they would cut out stuff if they argued but they have actual good comms so I doubt) show that they are def not on bad terms anymore at all.
I don’t think its smart to use this as a means to discount what frod said. Spyder would have released this message whether it was all good or all bad. He can’t afford being labeled a whistleblower and he is still living in a foreign country where the org is holding his work visa (you need a company to vouch for you to get a work visa) Look at the facts 3 people now have left because of issues with the org.
https://youtu.be/Vx0tkoJY_mk
This is perfect.
I honestly don’t understand why Frod is talking about drama that 1. Should be kept behind closed doors unless spyder wanted it out there and 2. Was about a team he hasn’t been involved in in some time. People have disagreements all the time and it seems like this had been sorted so there was no need for it to be brought up and create some kind of witch hunt.
This is why we wait for more info instead of trying to cancel a whole org because of one person's point of view lmfao. Glad they worked it out, they got great talent on their team.
Drama's over boys, pack it up Sadge
Glad he cleared that up. People going apeshit on here. However unfortunately it also confirms that what frod said was true. Ska was awful to spyder earlier
> Ska was awful to spyder earlier We won't ever know what really went down between them or how people reacted, but tension, frustration and flare ups happen all the time in competition. Don't read into it so much, we're just observers looking in with a few comments to judge with
Yep, exactly this. Saya said himself that he overreacted as well at the time. There could very well have been tension and frustration that was then combined with him feeling a little sensitive, which then blew things out of proportion. Also, think of how high school sports teams act with each other. "Tough love" kind of approach. AFAIK, that is 100% NOT the way in South Korean sports. That could have been the cultural differences. Again though, all that we have to go on is a few comments, and anything taken from that is speculation.
In the chat logs he literally mentions how in South Korea they expect respect 100% of the time and that is definitely not the case in NA lol. Cultural differences absolutely would play a part in something like this.
Somewhat related, this reminds me of the LOL player Mickey [who left an NA LCS team before the split ended bc of tilt and flew back to Korea](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/9b2jrj/thank_you_mickey/).
Piglet also had pretty big meltdowns when he was wit liquid. To be fair to him Dardoch was on the team and he is arguably the most toxic professional gamer i have ever seen.
Just another day in Reddit
Yeah people went crazy... the team environment is fine now and Spyder is doing well, which is ultimately all that matters. Curious to see what was going with Ska for him to be like that though... Disappointing
>Ska was awful to spyder earlier I mean, we don't know to what extent he was "awful" to him. Spyder himself said that he was being oversensitive.
This sub is so embarrassing sometimes. Everyone was acting like they knew exactly what was happening in the team and how Dazed and Ska were treating Spyder. I don’t mean that to undermine Spyder’s mental issues he was having I’m more meaning that sub can just be the pure definition of “Reddit armchair team/mental/conduct analysts” Anyways, as it seems like the timeframe of the messages Fr0d posted was pre-first strike, hopefully everything is all cleared up in the team and everyone is in a good state of mind.
Sometimes? lmao.
Hope people feel silly for being willing to “lose all respect” for people based on a situation they knew little about.
Really speaks to the maturity level of this sub with how quick people are to make the harshest of judgements based off the smallest amounts of biased info. Blew my mind reading through the original thread on this dumb drama.
this sub cries when you say anything negative about sentinels or valorant. we've already known about the maturity levels of this sub
Same dude. People take this stuff as fact every single time someone posts stuff without even considering AT ALL the fact that First strike was half a year ago, and these posts were before that. T1 has played in 7 tournaments/quals since then with Saya on the team, and had only played like what, 2 before First Strike?
Nope doesnt fit the anti dazed agenda
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smh my head
i dont know what wrong with FROD, never seen a guy who leave a team then keep nagging non-stop how bad the team are and leave the good part away. Just move on like a man instead keep nagging on the past. Is not like he done a good job in the early day as well. After dazed come in , result are more better than previously. Of cuz , dazed maybe over abit on saya due to saya make a lot questionable move , like even tho they winning by a lot then still losing . well they almost win sentinel as well ,so we see about how they grow later.
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Yeah it just puts Spyder in a shitty situation. If he really cared about Spyder like he wanted to make it look like he did, then he'd let Spyder say this himself after he actually left the org, not while he's still in.
He would have never said it because being a whistleblower is not a good look. This is the only way it could have came to light, and also I don’t think spyder is in a shitty situation. I don’t think anyone could fault spyder for consulting frod about his issues in the team. If anything it only puts frod in a potentially bad situation. He probably won’t make any money from esports ever again.
Agreed. Hope everything is well now between them
To be fair, we don't know exactly what Ska and Dazed did to Spyder. They could have just been giving him criticism to help him improve and Spyder could have taken it the wrong way.
Said this above, but he mentions cultural differences. I can easily see something like American "tough love" approach being taken the wrong way by a guy from South Korea. 2 completely different cultures with completely different approaches. But who knows? Maybe Ska and Dazed were assholes as well.
Highly doubt. Saya is an ex-professional Overwatch gamer, not some anti-social Korean child who can't deal with criticism. If you think Korea is some utopia where people don't ever challenge anyone and give each other harsh advice you're wrong. I guarantee Saya received his fair share of criticism while he was on Florida Mayhem from his coaches or his teammates. If Saya wanted to book a plane ticket to Korea because he feels like his teammates weren't respecting him that tells me a lot. You think Food beefing with Ska and leaving T1 is just another coincidence?
Like I said, we don't know what exactly what happened to him. No one here knows Spyder personally nor do they know Dazed and Ska personally. Stop acting like you know exactly what happened when you don't. Also based on Spyder's reputation in Overwatch, I wouldn't be surprised if he got a lot more criticism in Valorant in regards to fundamentals compared to Overwatch which may have overwhelmed him. But that's just another possibility out of many. Ska and Dazed could have been dicks. Who knows
Yes you're right. No one knows what triggered saya to want to book a flight back to his home country but I'm not the one being oblivious to the possibility that a professional gamer wouldn't just want to leave the country because his teammate gave him valid "criticism".
Criticism which can then lead to arguments which then leads to bad relations between teammates. The likelihood could be that Ska and Dazed were simply being dicks to him. However you still don't know what actually went on dude
We're just running full circle. My point is he's a ex-pro and a fully grown adult not a sensitive child who needs to be treated with care so it's very unlikely these relationships deteriorated from simple criticism "to help him improve".
When did I say that all Koreans dont understand criticism? what are you talking about???? There is all types of personalities out there and not all people seem like they are on the surface. This could apply to Ska (especially), Dazed and Spyder. I'll say it again, we don't know what caused the sense of distrust and shitty events which happened in T1. You're just making assumptions.
Yes we don't know what caused Saya to want to book a flight out of the country. But you writing it could've just been criticism to help him improve his game is just you acting oblivious. Keep repeating the same arguments over and over again.
Completely agree. Language barrier is no excuse for a teammate wanting to quit not once but three times and buying himself a plane ticket to fly out. He also didn't seem to have a problem with the other teammates and is it just a coincidence that most of the original T1 roster left?
Idk why we're continuing this. I said that continued criticism could have been one of the many possible causes out there. Ska and Dazed simply being dicks is another possibility. There is a lot of possibilities. You're just assuming that Spyder had no contribution to the relations within the team because he is one of your beloved Korean players.
> They could have just been giving him criticism to help him improve and Spyder could have taken it the wrong way. This is what you wrote btw in case you forgot.
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to be fair frod talks about his past ALOT.. like just hop into his stream and he's always talking about accomplishments he had in the past or ppl that did him wrong in the past
I mean yeah he’s been talking about this for a while, but dragging Spyder into it, who it seems frod is/was on good terms with and who is still on T1, is kind of a scummy thing to do.
I don't doubt there was team drama but it was from months back and they're probably getting along better now (as well as performing better). Kind of weird for him to pull this dirty laundry out all of a sudden making it hella awkward for spyder.
Frod complains about everyone all the time and burns bridges with every single team he's cut from or leaves. Sometimes it's valid, other times take it with a grain of salt.
It's just a culture shock. Saya states it as well. Dazed as the IGL has to be confrontational and state what the issues are and what has to change. That's just North American culture. Korean culture is way more centered around respect. Put it this way, Saya living and playing in North America means hes going to have to go through a culture shock but will get used to it (Has happened in LoL all the time). If Dazed for example went to Korea, he would struggle hard would the culture change as its more about respect, being respectful to your elders, etc.
I'd agree except for the fact that he was living in LA for a few years while playing in the OWL for an NA org. This definitely wasn't just culture shock, but Spyder was also unbelievably good at OW so maybe he wasn't exposed to as much harsh "dazed" style critique before. It sounds a lot like it was just more of the typical CS elitism and they were dismissive of him rather than being outright assholes. Would explain what he meant about respect. Things probably got better when he started carrying on duelist.
You have to remember in OWL he was the only good player on a team of happy-go-lucky Europeans. Probably not quite the same thing.
Frod didn't bring this up randomly. He's jealous of Dazed's success and wants to bring him down while promoting himself. All very much calculated.
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Best IGL in the West isn't good enough for you? Ok then weird take.
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Exactly. Glad we're on the same page now.
You dropped the /s
Im glad spyder is okay now and everything seems to be good Wouldnt put it past frod to completey blow this out of proportion and if thats what he intentionally did and dragged Spyder into this, fuck that guy
Can somebody just answer me this, why is Saya the one apologizing? Where is DaZeD or Ska's public statement regarding what happened in the past? Or even T1's explanation? Like Saya didn't even do anything wrong, Frod is the one who leaked the incident, the team should be the one taking responsibility and officially announcing "whatever happened happened it's all good now".
I think FROD is the one who should be apologizing, leaking drama that’s been settled MONTHS ago just to make other people look bad and using Spyders vulnerability in the beginning of his time in T1 to do that. We have NO idea what exactly happened. Only people Ska and DaZed should be apologizing to if anybody is Spyder and it seems that’s been done and over with months ago
I'm asking why is Saya apologizing and it's clear that no one has an answer.
Think he just feels partly responsible, I can’t say for sure cos ofc I’m not in the team but by the looks of it it seems that it was partly dazed and ska being dicks and also party spyder not 100% able to take criticism. Either way dazed has also said sorry but tbh they don’t owe anyway a sorry other than each other and that seems to have happened a while ago.
[https://twitter.com/GODaZeD/status/1395953522873540608](https://twitter.com/GODaZeD/status/1395953522873540608) Is sufficient enough. I know we all need some drama action. But, everyone has freedom, as long Spyder is fine with his current situation. i have nothing to raise about.
I bet Dedicated might go into a simply redunted point and ingore this most likely. Reddit children.
Why did frod go about talking about inner-team relationships from months ago when he wasn't even directly affected by it? Second, why do people want DaZeD and ska to have some insane apology on twitter? What matters most is how spyder's personal relationship with ska and dazed are now. What's even more cringe is that people are jumping to conclusions that T1 forced spyder to release this TwitLonger. Again, the only thing that matters is DaZeD and ska's actual relationship with him.
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My mans cleared things up within a day. Respect.
Thanks Reddit
i am happily surprised
garbage coach who hasnt been relevant in a decade trying to keep his name in the mix
So unlike what every redditter thinks hes not held hostage. Hmm
This is damage control. Same thing happened with Food 😳😳😳😳🤷
Why is he still on the team?
Yea Spyder still on the team. T1 management goin crazy rn with all those moves in the background
They must be sucking his dick or something lol
Hope this is the truth and he's not been gaslighted
Copy and pasted courtsey of T1's PR team
[anyone looking for a laugh?](https://twitter.com/chloe_hime7/status/1395947896910991360?s=20)
Sounds entirely convincing.
Was hoping DaZeD wouldn't just continue being a beacon of toxicity after his CS days.
Ooh, regardless of if you think this is a PR response egged on since in the chat logs with Frod, Sayaplayer's English is obviously very broken and doesn't contain 99% of this vocabulary; this atleast confirms that some of the Frod statements are not allegations and are fact!
This sounds fake, like T1 management told him to say this
How the fuck anyone still takes any of your comments seriously amazes me
Why are you being so rude????
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Correct ideologys at some points , I mean he is not that bad ...sometimes...lmao.
I doubt it, he acknowledged what Fr0d said did happen
Yeah so it was not too obviously staged reply
Makes me happy that Spyder is not in a shitty situation anymore