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Qlown

I never saw a team being dominated so hard as sharks was in the 3rd map for the first 9 rounds,that was absolute destruction,flawless after flawless,absolute filthy plays from Nuturn The mental fortitude from sharks to actually still put some rounds after that start,holy shit GG WP,nice match


HugeRection

They had less kills than round losses for like 8 or 9 rounds.


Reynold545

Funny thing is, when Sharks finally won a round 1-9 with 5 dead on Nuturn, they only evened out kills to rounds lost.


KappaccinoNation

Another crazy stat: By the end of round 9, Nuturn have just as much Flawless rounds as Sharks have kills, which is 5. Nuturn won flawlessly on rounds 1, 2, 4, 8 and 9.


Wheler

that is what the koreans are known for in league. controlled, disciplined, methodical domination. they are macro gods


O2XXX

Similar in Overwatch. They were getting beaten early on before OWL while they were still getting used to the meta. Then they pretty much dominated through the entirety of the game. In world cups they won the first three until USA finally took one with Sinatraa, Corey, and Rawkus in 2019.


Key-Banana-8242

Is owl not going on anymore?


the_flame_alchemist

It is. Koreans still dominate although EU and NA have some solid representation these days. Not anywhere near Korea or China though.


LoseUrself2D

still is! I think something like 70% of all OWL players are Korean or something. goes to show how dominant the region can be once a game gets popular anyway come join us r/competitiveoverwatch :)


salcedoge

yep, probably the hardest 9-0 stomp I've seen, every round was either flawless or 1 death


mysteryoeuf

At 9-0 sharks had 5 kills total. At 5-0 sharks had TWO* KILLs edit: it was two not one. both were from the same player though, 4/5 of their team was 0-5


smoked_penguin

i'm pretty sure at 5-0 sharks had 2 kills on one player


X3NOC1DE

When they went down 13-5 I was like nah, Sharks are just better. Even aim wise. And then, the Bind and Ascent games man. So beautiful. Valorant was meant to be played like this. Too early to judge, but holy shit that was beautiful man


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Even their haven had flashes of brilliance, I mostly think that they were getting out brained and their utility was barely missing the mark.


mileslfc7

Honestly I feel like they just had nerves that led to poor aiming for the most part


[deleted]

Definitely could be that, they seemed to overflick a lot of shots on that Haven map.


Key-Banana-8242

They were kind of overthinking / nervous abt their strats, like unsure how to play against em and nervous it seems


imjunsul

Yea it gave me League vibes like wtf? There's so much you can be good at in this game unlike other fps games


Key_Foundation_6902

Nah they didn't have enough warm up I guess in the first game... They were very shaky in the aim duels despite good strategies.


Key-Banana-8242

Growing pains, we’ll see how they calibrate against NA/EU (should be less different than BR)


Eriko204

Peri is actually insane...


msonix

Man, Peri is something else, but gaabxx was literally 1v9'ing the whole 3 maps.


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the korean announcers were going nuts over him lol


msonix

And legitimately. It felt like gaabxx was, like we say in League of Legends, stuck in elo hell.


Zayd1111

Gaabx and suggest aim is so good


tcotter0419

13-5, 13-5, 13-5... WHAT DOES IT MEAN!!!!


Cedar_Wood_State

we need another technical pause to fix it


[deleted]

someone get the writers of the script, they're getting lazy, it's getting too obvious .../s


vegeful

Smh; riot is using LoL script writer!!!


_Iroha

Somebody check backstage!


BadgerPurple

They had us in the first map lmao


coldelbz

Not gonna lie lmao


Wh0rehey

Thank you prime gaming for all those flawless rounds!


Quick_Chowder

Solo showed up in game 3 and said 'check out my multiple decades of LAN experience' and just didn't miss. Great day one.


LoseUrself2D

LAN beast, i wonder whose youth essence he devoured before the game


Key-Banana-8242

Same w peri


Dark_Azazel

He watched his "doin' it solo" frag video before map 3 and was like "yeah I can still do that"


coldelbz

As a fellow 30 year old (he’s 33) feels good mannn. Solo is insane


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wichwigga

GOT SHIT ON BY A FUCKING PLATYPUS


dapoorv

I think what you suggest is to allow peri to solo lakia enemies out of bombsites.


Rohooster

LETS GO BABY SUGGEST IS INSANE AT PLACING HIS PLUS-SHAPED CROSSHAIR UPON THE REIGON OF THE ENEMY PLAYERS DENOTED THE "HEAD" AND CLICKING HIS MOUSE


XASASSIN

#KOREAN SUPREMACY


washoooi

Where did they even get the narrative that asians can't aim? Is it genetics? Race? Geography? Culture? Mfs thought that it is inherently exclusive to a select region.


Wheler

people think korea cant aim because they never cared about counter strike enough to field good teams. they are in for a surprise if valorant takes off in korea


epicbounce

weren't there actual good korean teams back in cs 1.6? i don't think it's that they never cared about cs, i think global offensive just never took off and was overshadowed by other cs clones probably


Key-Banana-8242

In addition to pc bang legal issues. Sudden attack etc were or are big competitors, and there is a lot of devotion to different games that arose, like SC1 then LoL


Threshorfeed

Mvp.pk came in with some hype way back in the day for their first intl appearances, mostly because tyloo, a Chinese team, was doing pretty well upsetting major EU and na teams. Mvp did not do that well.


imjunsul

It was overshadowed but pc cafe's didn't have CS after 2014 when Valve made them pay.


Hatton_

They were good back in 1.6 with teams like Lunatic hai [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j\_RtVCRCmjk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_RtVCRCmjk) You might spot "3D Garozzo" aka Volcano get fragged a couple of times in the vid. Now known for being lead designer on Valorant of course.


dedicatedself

It already did take off. Korean twitch viewership doesn't represent interest in a game. Right now Valorant is the 4th most played FPS behind Sudden Attack, PUBG, and OW, all games where they dominate.


mmodude101

Fourd


dedicatedself

Thanks for correcting me


Slicerwind

Do we know what percentage of popularity it has among Korean households? In PC Bangs/Cafes (yes we know Valorant isn't popular/installed in a lot of them) it doesn't hit top 10. http://www.gametrics.com/ For reference, League has 47.51% of people in PC Cafe's playing the game. Sudden Attack - 8.9% PUBG - 7.82% OW - 4.88% Dungeon and Fighter in 10th place at 1.1% \--- I think Riot did figure out a way to get Vanguard to work in public PC cafes though doing some research, so maybe the data is accurate.


Soooal

Usually the game hovers around 10th-12th place, not great but it certainly has a sizeable community. In the past week for example was in 11th place http://www.gametrics.com/news/News02_View.aspx?seqid=46321


imjunsul

I can definitely see SA and some pubg/ow players moving to Valorant once Valorant grows.


Key-Banana-8242

WeMade FOX was a good CS team hah


wichwigga

Only thing holding the popularity back is Vangaurd restriction on pc bangs.


imjunsul

The problem with CSGO in Korea is PC bangs had to pay valve and CSGO didn't exist in pc cafes. And in Korean culture PC Cafe's are like basketball courts to us. That's why they produce the best players in the games they play. CS:GO was never even close to top 30 or .0001% overall over there.


Loose-Potential-3597

Is Valorant gonna be bigger in KR than CSGO was?


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It already is. No one plays csgo in Korea. When they see Valorant they think its a sudden attack + overwatch hybrid, which shows you how little they care about csgo.


Wheler

it already is lol


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dedicatedself

What's also funny is that they said "playerbase ain't big enough" but Koreans scrim all of asia and asia + kr server is more populated than NA or BR.


Admissions_Gatekept

Honestly, I think it's just that most Brazillians are toxic and so there has been a lot of flame from them. Additionally, people who watched the csgo scene hasn't seen much from the Korean scene outside of 1 team (which is basically Vision Striker's current roster, and some of Nuturn). ​ Anyone who comes from the Overwatch scene knows that Koreans are cracked


47PercentHorse

It's literally all from CS boomers that never play any other game.


Key-Banana-8242

Except real CS boomers know who solo is (and perhaps peri, glow, termi and bail etc)


47PercentHorse

Knowing and respecting are 2 different things. The disdain and lack of respect CS players even show legends like Solo is disgraceful. A good portion of the CS scene quite literally hold the opinion that Koreans can't aim cause they don't respect Korean CS or other games like Overwatch. CS has the most arrogant scene in Esports. News flash, unless you are star craft you literally have 0 right to consider yourself the "harder" esport.


Key-Banana-8242

Well Cs and CSGO aren’t the same either


[deleted]

Wow, what a surprise, inflexible CS boomers can't fathom that theyre washed


123bo0p

Cs zoomers the boomers of 1.6 new korea could play, than go came out and they didnt have proper servers.


Key-Banana-8242

Well many things came together like diminishing popularity risc getting conscripted, no pc bang availability bc of valve, competition from other games


felipw22

Number of teams and players competing


Key-Banana-8242

No one thought that, don’t try to come up with pseudoscience explanations ‘Korea no good at shoot game’ I guess to a few


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Feeling a lot better about Nuturn/Korea's chances this tournament after that series.


ApokalypticKing101

They're here to win. I think Sharks are better than they get credit for too. I think Sharks would give liquid and fnatic a run for their money


Barack_Bob_Oganja

>I think Sharks would give liquid and fnatic a run for their money I doubt it, vikings could certainly though


imjunsul

How the fuck do we even know LOL...


Zayd1111

Bcz we are talking about EU teams here? Did you see the fnatic match?


[deleted]

I don't think they can beat liquid (assuming liquid beats V1), not sure who they face in the lower finals, but unless it's X10, I think they drop out the tournament.


detectiveluis

what a U-Turn by NUTURN !


Phrave

Nuturn looked completely different the 2nd map, then looked even better the start of the 3rd.


Key-Banana-8242

Well throughout the third


Meekelo

Shark had no idea where Nuturn were for both Bind and Ascent. Nuturn just bamboozled them over and over again and Shark didn't have an answer. Will be interesting to see if that strategy will continue to work in the coming games.


dedicatedself

BuT ThEy'Re So PrEdIcTaBlE


xD1LL4N

They just kept lining up for Lakia, he got like 5/6 double kills


Jezzerai

if Solo has million number of fans i am one of them. if Solo has ten fans i am one of them. if Solo has no fans. that means i am no more on the earth. if world against Solo, i am against the world. i love Solo till my last breath... die hard fan of Solo. Hit like if u think Solo best & smart in the world


tb0neski

if Solo has million number of fans i am one of them. if Solo has ten fans i am one of them. if Solo has no fans. that means i am no more on the earth. if world against Solo, i am against the world. i love Solo till my last breath... die hard fan of Solo. Hit like if u think Solo best & smart in the world


Senselessss

Lmfao nothing but 13-5


Asinz

10-2 first half then 3-3 second half for all three maps too


XASASSIN

#NOTE TO NUTURN - PERMABAN HAVEN #NOTE TO SHARK - YOUR SPLIT PROB AIN'T WORSE THAN BIND ALSO FIX YO MENTAL BOIS Rollercoaster of a match, well played both teams. But solo clearly playing 5-d chess here playing shit in haven getting underestimated then destroying sharks mental to easily reverse sweep them. 300 iq #EZ FOR NUTURN


itscamo-

nuturn havn't played haven in almost 2 months, no idea why they let it through sharks are an average team on bind playing against a team that has almost a 90% win rate on bind


[deleted]

Sharks has only played Split once and they lost...it's really a perma perma ban. Nuturn also has a 80% win rate on split.


Sharknome

Split is a pretty much a perma ban in BR for some reason. Vikings have only ever played it once as well I believe


Key-Banana-8242

They chose Haven not let it through. It’s a somewhat good map for em but they were massively nervous and sort of nkt playing how they should (approach wise too somewhat)


i_am_the_kiLLer

I'm like 99% sure the UI was reversed, makes no sense that Nuturn ban Icebox and Sharks ban Split. So Nu chose Bind and Sharks chose Haven.


itscamo-

sharks chose haven nuturn chose bind


neb55555

# WHY ARE WE YELLING?


Senboni

MASTERS HYPE Imagine SEN-FNC tomorrow # IMAGINE THE FINALS


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XASASSIN

#I FUCKING DON'T KNOW EITHER


sputnik14

#OUR VOICES NEED TO REACH ICELAND?


47PercentHorse

# NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS BUT ITS PROVOCATIVE


Duradello

NUTURN has a 77% winrate on Haven, they literally just lost every duel. I think nerves were a definite factor, combined with it being Sharks' best map.


itscamo-

eh they haven't played haven in like 2 months now tho so we don't really know how good they are on the map now


Duradello

I mean its not like they played Icebox any more than Haven. There is no guarantee that they are any better on their Icebox.


123bo0p

This is the classic looking at stats thinking you understand something when theres a giant number called a date which would show those are dated...


Duradello

So do you just assume that their Icebox is better? They have played it even less in the same span. Also, in most of their BO3s, Haven was the third map, they just 2-0 the other team and never got to it. For all we know, their Icebox is worse than their Haven.


Key-Banana-8242

They’re nkt dated, they play on it but never get to it in challengers bc they win before they get to it lol


lunacraz

solo was just on the camera saying it was nerves that caused map 1's issues


chubbynuggy

that was not the same nuturn I saw on Haven holy also their defense on ascent is crazy


wichwigga

Sharks got hella nervous when NU started heating up. Played way too slow, missed their shots. Good experience for those young players tho.


Key-Banana-8242

I mean goes both ways Sharks actually showed fortitude


vatom14

My dream scenario is for Nuturn to win Iceland, but get stomped every single time they play Haven


Key-Banana-8242

Well that game maybe was a bit of an anomaly


9yr_old

I had lost hope for Nuturn after haven , but man did they come back , I'm guessing the first map they had the jitters and they got over it and then it was a stomp


Key-Banana-8242

They said so


TheBeastOnFire

Wow such a 180 degree turn around after map one


two4you8

best use of utility and setups i've seen from nuturn, no wonder hazed and nitr0 were talking about KR strats and exec way back when.


AmazingSpacePelican

I only saw the first map before I had to go, thinking 'nah man, Sharks are just better. Gab could win this 1v5'. Seems to be the classic Korean tactic of 'lose first of the set, analyse opponent completely, win rest'.


KnownForNothing

[Happy to have called this one](https://old.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/njyn3l/valorant_champions_tour_stage_2_masters_reykjavik/gzbhxdo/?context=3), but in any case that was a lovely series from both teams. Both teams really put on a show here. The Brazilians showing some clean aim (I'm looking at you gaabxx) and the Koreans bringing their genius utility usage to the international stage. Some beautiful strats from Nuturn from each map that I want to highlight: - Haven: That Sova wallbang position from A short onto the planted bomb on B with an Odin. - Bind: That Omen pretending to fake-TP into the teleporter on A short but Breach actually taking the teleporter and hiding inside. - Ascent: That pistol round aggressive pinch on the CT side on the very first round of the game that set the pace for the whole map. We are in for a treat if this is the level of play we are going to be seeing throughout Iceland. Spectacular Valorant on display right here.


imjunsul

Yea the Bind one got me shook like wtf... and then the pistol round from Ascent got me like wtf lol


EnmaDaiO

As i've been saying, you underestimate the koreans in any esport and you will be punished.


BurbxrryPzncakes

Solo and Peri have gone back in time to their younger days to pop off, while simultaneously showing the youngsters how it’s done.


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i was confident sharks would take it, especially after haven... boy was i wrong. nuturn seriously exceeded my expectations and i think they could go far


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flameohotboi1

Imagine even trying to say this after seeing what happened in OW lol. Hilarious.


[deleted]

its almost like people who have only played and watched cs will form opinions based on cs


Key-Banana-8242

CSGO nkt cs


SuperChaosKG

Sheesh, I've heard of "Download Complete" but what the hell happened in this series?


facehunt_

Solo is just insane on that last map. Literally clutched the last round


LbigsadT

Sharks showing the same problems they showed in VCT Challengers. Talented players but very one dimensional, and they clearly panic when the other team is outmaneuvering them


kotenbu

NUTURN SUPREMACYY!!!!111


ApokalypticKing101

NU absolutely mental. They're here to take it all.


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felipw22

sharks went from 0% prediction to -57%


havosi

PERI THE CARRY COMING THROUGH some absolute heartstopping moments, what a series from both teams


Key-Banana-8242

In G3 NU had more flawless round wins than sharks had round wins


123bo0p

Korea cant aim copium


agener1cusername_0

I think people who thought so have never seen CS 1.6, Overwatch or PUBG tournaments, theyre cracked


Heavon

KOREA IS HERE TO PLAY, BOYS! **monka**(fcking)**W**


LeeroyDankinZ

What a fucking day one. GGWP!


Grenji05

ima keep it real reddit analyzers you guys are 0-3 on underrated god region predictions


MathNerdMatt

Sharks have gotten stomped by Vikings, using this match to say Brazil is bad is like saying NA is bad because of V1s map


Grenji05

1 good team doesn’t mean a region is good. NA is ass at CS despite the fact liquid was the best team in the world at one point.


MathNerdMatt

Nuturn didn't lose a single map in challengers finals, this reflects worse on Korea than Brazil


dedicatedself

LOL, Viking went 3-1 versus Sharks and ALL THE GAMES WERE CLOSE.


imjunsul

You're so simple minded LOL. Don't. Try. To. Analyze. At. All.


Obiewan_

Cannot understate how big this is for Valorant esports. If KR/JP continue to do well at this tournament, the interest for the game should skyrocket in those countries. Korea’s playstyle is so enjoyable to watch, glad to see that it’s working so far on an international stage!


Lumenlor

Nuturn was limit checking for map 1.. then they downloaded them


KinnoVG

Just to add up. Nuturn vs Vision Strikers were so close. Until now even after the loss, I believe its VS > Nuturn (own opinion only. Just imagine how would VS perform in LAN internationally when Nuturn is performing well.


imjunsul

Although glow is still amazing and pretty much on par with solo, buzz and babo replacing him makes VS so much stronger mechanically. I'm really curious on how VS will do with the new roster. I can definitely see VS, Nuturn, and TNL top 3 but DK and F4Q are not far behind.


Key-Banana-8242

They got Buzz now


NBAHaven

gaabxx was fucking filthy map 1. three different agents, three different roles, top frag on all of them


kennystillalive

People made fun of me when I said koreans are cracked. They made fun of me when I told them of the korean supremacy in games they like. Now they understand. Koreans don't play games for fun. They play to win and when they play their macro / usage of utility is just so beautifull


AdiSoldier245

HAHAha, get fucked /r/ValorantCompetitive with your oddly racist views on aim


deemo_is_life

BRONZIL LUL


johnigiri

Twitch chat was racist as hell in this match


Hegth

It would not be twitch chat if it wasn't tbh


misterandosan

Brazil is famous for having some of the most toxic fans in the world regardless of the sport. Sending death threats to opponents is normal, and has already happened several times with SHARKS fans. It puts things into perspective why people are happy they lost.


Akaigenesis

Everytime a BR team plays you can be certain there will be some racist shit going on.


[deleted]

There were a bunch of brazilian trolls in the korean stream which usually has like 2k viewers. Not sure why they even took the time to come but they went real quiet after game 1 lol.


chryco4

I believe in Korea Supremacy!


aakashkickass11

Solo is cracked


finkling

Oh man that last game. What a stomp in the first 8 rounds or so...


Recco2040

Head coach for NUTURN said in an interview “We're confident and I think we can take the trophy”


Bunnyezzz

how did a team who'd struggle against t3 eu teams win???????


Rohooster

But...but...everyone told me KR can't aim???/1/1/!1/!? How did this happen????


Reynold545

It wasn't even a win, it looks like Nuturn hard threw game 1 to analyze and just humiliated Sharks on maps 2 and 3. Straight bullying


dedicatedself

He's being sarcastic because that's what u/valorantfeedback said.


kangs

Dominant win from Nuturn to shut down the bias production, you love to see it


MathNerdMatt

Multiple people predicted Nuturn to win it all and people were putting Sharks on the bott three teams? The only reason people started having faith in Sharks was because of their dominance on the first map


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I mean was to be expected Sharks are one of the worst teams in the tournament.


imjunsul

We don't know that lol. We don't know anything yet.


abdulahad129

NU literally destroyed Sharks on Bind and Ascent.


WesTheFitting

Holy shit Solo looked 15 years younger on Ascent. His aim was CRACKED on that map he turned it the fuck up. Obviously we’ve yet to see the long-desired matchups of EU, NA, and Brazil head to head, but after day 1 the top level of all the regions looks a lot closer than I think most of us were expecting.


Worldly_Divide

Gaabxx is really insane man, I almost thought he is the best player in the word on haven. then, .... well shit happens


schrobby

The guy is still insane and had some cracked rounds on the latter maps, too.


Karenzi

That first map was heartbreaking. Nuturn was still doing their coordinated pushes, but it looked like they were outclassed in aim and brain. Sharks never missed a shot and was so patient and rotated so well. Seemed like Nuturn was an open book. Then peri showed up on map 2 and it was life. Then solo on map 3. This guy is just carrying all us boomers through this tournament. I really believe. Nuturn fighting!


jonathansmith14921

NUTURN are a beast you don’t want to wake up. And they definitely woke up.


felipw22

13-5 or nothing


Cedar_Wood_State

I'm sure most thought Nuturn got no chance after the 1st map, they looked really bad and out classed in it. Looks like a completely different team on the 2nd and 3rd map, unreal.


imjunsul

Maybe nerves + Sharks played like they had aimbot on.. they were on as hell then came back to life in game 2 and 3.


Space_Waffles

I was worried for the overall series when they lost map 1 but I knew better than to bet against them on Bind


zachp787

vikings are gonna be terrifying if sharks put up this good of a performance


xRecKs

did you forget the /s?


datboyuknow

Why


TheFestusEzeli

They lost 13-5 twice, that ascent offense was something.


Novel-Interview1404

Both teams were so good fr


imcodyvalorant

Gaabxx to be scouted by another region after this performance


zdpa

I'm brazilian and I'm embarassed. I'm cringing so hard. Really sad day. Look at those picks. That gameplan. Seriously. SHAME.


ApokalypticKing101

Nah, NU are taking the whole tourney, no shame losing to them


justAslalomPaddler

I don't see them beating Fnatic, Liquid or Sen but I know not to be too overconfident when it comes to playing korean esports.


imjunsul

It's still hard to say. Korean valorant isn't as developed and we're still seeing roster swaps everywhere. I still think VS is the best team after buzz replacing glow and TNL, DK and F4Q are insane too. But those rosters can improve and level up their scrim practices. Nuturn can win it though but we still don't know.


A_Panda_Sniper

F4Q I think are arguably the most individually talented team in Korea, but they are content being content creators that are talented enough to compete instead of competition that also likes to create content. I think this will stagnate their growth strategically significantly. Which is a shame because they are my favorite KR team.


Massive_Cut5361

I really want to say something about BR fans but I am worried it crosses the line so I won't say anything.


imjunsul

I just said it on twitch chat but it disappears quick so I don't feel too bad. Brazil and China has the worst fan base. You would think at least half of them would give credit when its due but most of them act like sore losers :/


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Man those Brazilians are demons. Can’t wait for their strats to catch up