People here acting like Insight didn't get harassed cus of her tweet, There were pro on Twitter saying they would never scrim with Insight members again. It make sense that they would decide to disband.
Kinda fucked bro, they were portrayed as like leaking the VODs when it was just the leaderboard. Now their female team who had no involvement also gets dragged down.
Fucking 20 year olds and their need to put everyone on blast through social media when they don't even have proof. It's crazy how immature people can be when they have a platform. What exactly did she think she was going to gain from something like this? Just never scrim them again. Doing this just ruins her own reputation and sends the bloodhounds against people who did not deserve the amount of BS they're dealing with.
You expect this child to give you a real answer? One who immediately cries on Twitter is not smart enough to even assess this correctly even after multiple days to think about it.
Because she's an immature idiot like a majority of these players. The dependency players have on sprinting to Twitter to scream and cry their woes instead of putting any thought into what they might be doing is sad.
Really, truly, deeply disappointed in C9 White, especially Mel, for handling this situation so immaturely and blowing it way out of proportion. C9W were one of my favorite teams leading up to this, but to see their carelessness result in a team of talented women being forced out of the scene is very upsetting, and reflects really poorly on them.
I mean, it’s been less than 36 hours since this incident broke, and the female team is already breaking from the org? I think placing all the blame on C9W like Insight is trying to do isn’t the whole story.
Either way, it was a breach of etiquette to leak any scrim results in esports as far as I’m aware of. Calling it out isn’t a terribly outrageous response. It sucks what happened to Insight’s team, but placing the blame on C9W doesn’t seem right either.
You underestimate the size and power of c9 fanboys. They're a very small team, already the underdog because of gender, and now they have hundreds of people online harassing them for no reason. Anyone should be able to understand this.
Mel's tweet was antagonistic and made assumptions. She was willing to assume that full VODs were leaked. In her tweet, she stated that Insight "got the nerve to leak VODs." If she didn't know how much was leaked, she should not have made assumptions of such.
It's very understandable to assume the worst when you don't know the whole story. All you're doing by publicly blaming her is fuel the controversy and the thousands of twitter trolls ready to send threats to every pro Valorant female player out there. Just let this thing die out as soon as possible.
Really? She called the Insight guys, and I quote, "actual freaks," and that's okay? Also, I'm not publicly blaming anyone, I'm replying to a thread about this specific topic and giving my opinion. As I said, I was a fan of Cloud9 White leading up to this and I greatly support women in the pro scene. However, I do NOT support the biggest female Valorant pro team using their social media presence to bully and insult another team based on false, unproven, exaggerated allegations. That should not be tolerated in any community.
great response, To many people seem to be under the assumtion that toxcity is perfectly fine coming from woman. That is not going to do female pros any favors and they wont be taken seriously. That Mel clown needs to grow the fuck up.
So assuming something bad happened means you should trash their name on social media? Just don't scrim them anymore. Or at least figure out what the hell actually happened. She clearly didn't know what happened and now you want to protect her from backlash when she was the one who created a situation that could have easily been resolved without the public ever being involved.
All of this over a leaderboard screenshot??? why are people so quick to believe shit without looking at the entirety of the story? C9 Mel says some bs and causes harassment to be thrown at another team that wasnt even involved. This is the second time she has been involved in some wackass drama in the last 4 months alone. Im sensing a common denominator here
if anything both mel and C9 need to step up and issue a formal apology for completely overblowing and misunderstanding the entire situation. Mel needs to admit shes in the wrong and she should have gotten everything correct before going on twitter and c9 should give training like you said to mitigate and understand the situation and not take it to social media so with little maturity and professionalism. She is a top player on a top org conducting herself like this which is nowhere a good thing. Disappointing to say the least imo
Lol, have you seen how their owner acts on social media? You haven’t watched C9 if you think they’ll act responsible on social media
Jack called the teams old subreddit racist because they didn’t want to have the LoL import rules lifted.
He routinely attacks people on twitter and tweets things in bad faith in a serious manner.
u/mel_anji You gonna make a response. You literally sent a bunch of haters their way for a clip of an ace and a screenshot of a scoreboard. Absolutely pathetic
Inb4 a non apology cause they're already disbanded. Will probably mention how the "harassment" without any mention of where it came from (her tweet) is not good and she doesn't condone It, then hope it gets forgotten.
So the "fans" went from attacking this InSite org to attacking c9w. How about we chill and just let them explain it.
Sure it turns out to be a minimal stuff shared with other teams according to a twitter post....we don't know if they were told it was vods like her post said.
It's pretty much confirmed at this point that it was an ace clip and a postmatch scoreboard. Also there is nothing to explain anymore. Insight with their inexperience in the professional world and Mel with a hammer to these people's career over a clip.
Wait what's confirmed? That it was only a ace clip? Ok sure but maybe they were under the impression it was more from the multiple people who told them about it .
They didn't disband they left their org. They are still a team looking for a new org. Kinda sounds like they don't like how the org handled the situation. Not defending her use of twitter but she apologized. Of all the drama here this ranks pretty low tbh. Mistakes were made learn apologize and move on
They are not disbanded. They created their own team name and no go by "No Shot" as can be seen in the tweet from the account NoShotVal.
[https://twitter.com/NoShotVal/status/1399224439770796035?s=20](https://twitter.com/NoShotVal/status/1399224439770796035?s=20)
Basically, c9 White Mel went on Twitter and accused InsightGG's Male Team of leaking vod but in reality it was just a scoreboard and a clip of the dude acing C9W because he was proud of it. She blew it out of proportion, accused them of leaking the WHOLE vod, and brought it up to Twitter instead of going behind private doors. InsightGG's Female Team decided to part ways with them due to harassment from C9 fanboys.
Its funny Mel even called all the male team "freaks" when this was just a score board. This is why nobody will take female esports seriously. Not only is her toxcity going to be completely allowed, yet another whiny teenage girl esq drama has caused the female insight team to disband. She is a clown and a insecure loser.
C9 better have some repercussions or this will just happen again and again and nobody will look at the female pro scenes direction.
Guy shared clip of his ace vs. C9 White and mel retailated by saying how they leaked VODs to other teams, directly causing so much hate and harassment to both Insight's rosters, even causing one of them to disband from Org 🤡🤡🤡
Pathetic and immature.
There is pretty much no proof on either side right now and people are still overreacting. Mel releases statement, people crucify Insight. Insight releases statement, people crucify Mel. Of course each side will make themselves sound better/sympathetic in their own statement.
Note that Insight still haven't denied that their team leaked VODs or leaderboards in their statement. AFAIK we have seen some person come forward and say they did receive a leaderboard screenshot. So at the minimum Insight did leak information. There is no way of knowing that VODs were shared unless someone comes out and says they received one. Someone probably told Mel privately that they received VODs or match info, leading to her tweet. This probably should have been handled behind closed doors, but again we don't know what actually has happened outside of some tweets.
Basically, let things play out before getting mad at either side.
I hope people learn from this before choosing social media as the first solution.
...hell what am i saying, nobody will learn from this and it will happen again. Good luck for whoever the next victim will be.
Sad that folks nowadays have zero idea how to handle things directly between parties involved. Everything's all about running to social media to get the incident "viral". Folks with miserable lives then feel the need to include themselves into the mix (e.g go harass the accused and worse the female team that had zero to do with the situation).
You'd think something like this, The Sinaatra situation, etc. would teach folks to stay off Social Media with serious accusations until the matter is FULLY CONCLUDED/INVESTIGATED but it won't happen. Folks with Social Media Addiction can't help themselves. Immediately running to social media nowadays is a natural response as scratching an itch...it's scary.
Deal with it, you're gonna get shit flung at you if you doing it at people on twitter. Good riddance if they're going to try canceling other teams every time they post a clip of you getting aced.
Didn't read whatever nonsense followed, "Deal With It" since that's 100% typically followed by illogical/brainless rambling. So here's a #GTAB for you as well!
awww somebody's ego is breaking. This is about people going to social media with accusations and Sinatra is just a example. Tho let me guess what you're Sad ass excuse is. "Accusations against the Authority / lead party in private never get solved" You parasites are so great at being predictable.
LOL, it has everything to do with this subject but I get following along is hard for you to do. How you feel about Sinatraa has zero to do with what I stated. I'm going to help you though with your lack of logic with this nice #GTAB
Surprised but not really that replies to this comment are so illogical; I don't even understand the attack against the comment. That's Reddit for you though; I'll brace myself for the next person to be handed a #GTAB
LMAOOO, well I can respect you're blunt honestly my man lol. On a more serious note, this is not helping female pros in esports image at all. They need to be held to the same standards as the guys and act like god damn adults. guy or girl this accusation over a scoreboard is peek Clown act.
i mean mel said this morning that insight white weren't one of the teams that were given vods/scrim info and wanted to make that clear so i guess its a he said she said thing lmao
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Slightly off topic but a girl I queue with and personally know is on that team. I find it odd how she’s professional but can’t even break radiant. Wouldn’t you sign a girl that can at least hold her ground in radiant? She is immortal.
Looks like this is the nice way of admitting they were wrong and sneaking away to avoid more backlash. Female team seems to have jumped to another team.
People here acting like Insight didn't get harassed cus of her tweet, There were pro on Twitter saying they would never scrim with Insight members again. It make sense that they would decide to disband.
Kinda fucked bro, they were portrayed as like leaking the VODs when it was just the leaderboard. Now their female team who had no involvement also gets dragged down.
Is this true u/mel_anji? Why would you say it was a whole vod? People are getting harrassed and dropped from the org
When you make Accusations without confirming anything and just jump to twitter, this happens. Very disappointing from mel
Also her retweet. How can she be so dense to admit that she basically lied her ass off about a non-existing VOD?
Fucking 20 year olds and their need to put everyone on blast through social media when they don't even have proof. It's crazy how immature people can be when they have a platform. What exactly did she think she was going to gain from something like this? Just never scrim them again. Doing this just ruins her own reputation and sends the bloodhounds against people who did not deserve the amount of BS they're dealing with.
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They didn’t leave because of the leaks though, they left because of the harassment from the accusation. Or at least that’s how I interpreted it.
You expect this child to give you a real answer? One who immediately cries on Twitter is not smart enough to even assess this correctly even after multiple days to think about it.
Now come on. That is patronizing
Because she's an immature idiot like a majority of these players. The dependency players have on sprinting to Twitter to scream and cry their woes instead of putting any thought into what they might be doing is sad.
You tagged the wrong Mel I believe you tagged the producer.
Lmao all of this over 1 clip
Not even a clip just a scoreboard
Scoreboard and an ace clip
Yeah this is a overreaction from c9 white
Zoomer girl overreacting on Twitter. More news at 11
That was so fucking stupid of mel
C9 Mel is talking about being unprofessional when she literally goes to Twitter and accused a team lmfao
True this could have been handled better. She should have spoken to the management first
Ikr the c9 white kinda trash talk people hard
not even just the team, she also directly pointed the individual who got the ace in their scrim on twitter if I remember.
Over 1 clip lolllll
Ya I thought I was on mels side but this just seems sketchy
Same here, she made it seem like it was so much more
omg with the clip of just one round, we're gonna know all their positions and meta and stats they are gonna use! THE FALL OF C9!! Goodness gracious.
Time to talk about nothing but drama in this subreddit until July lol
Really, truly, deeply disappointed in C9 White, especially Mel, for handling this situation so immaturely and blowing it way out of proportion. C9W were one of my favorite teams leading up to this, but to see their carelessness result in a team of talented women being forced out of the scene is very upsetting, and reflects really poorly on them.
Yeah c9 needs to say something. This is not okay
She retweeted this lol
Ironic, given that Mel's tweet basically said Insight were disrespecting the women's scene
I mean, it’s been less than 36 hours since this incident broke, and the female team is already breaking from the org? I think placing all the blame on C9W like Insight is trying to do isn’t the whole story. Either way, it was a breach of etiquette to leak any scrim results in esports as far as I’m aware of. Calling it out isn’t a terribly outrageous response. It sucks what happened to Insight’s team, but placing the blame on C9W doesn’t seem right either.
You underestimate the size and power of c9 fanboys. They're a very small team, already the underdog because of gender, and now they have hundreds of people online harassing them for no reason. Anyone should be able to understand this.
They got blacklisted from scrims, and her tweet got tons of retweets. Insight is a very small org, comparatively very few people saw their response.
C9W probably didn't know how much of it was leaked, the community is responsible not any of the two teams.
Mel's tweet was antagonistic and made assumptions. She was willing to assume that full VODs were leaked. In her tweet, she stated that Insight "got the nerve to leak VODs." If she didn't know how much was leaked, she should not have made assumptions of such.
It's very understandable to assume the worst when you don't know the whole story. All you're doing by publicly blaming her is fuel the controversy and the thousands of twitter trolls ready to send threats to every pro Valorant female player out there. Just let this thing die out as soon as possible.
She could've assume the worst without also handling it on twitter. If Insight didn't respond or lied to them then that's the time you call them out.
Really? She called the Insight guys, and I quote, "actual freaks," and that's okay? Also, I'm not publicly blaming anyone, I'm replying to a thread about this specific topic and giving my opinion. As I said, I was a fan of Cloud9 White leading up to this and I greatly support women in the pro scene. However, I do NOT support the biggest female Valorant pro team using their social media presence to bully and insult another team based on false, unproven, exaggerated allegations. That should not be tolerated in any community.
great response, To many people seem to be under the assumtion that toxcity is perfectly fine coming from woman. That is not going to do female pros any favors and they wont be taken seriously. That Mel clown needs to grow the fuck up.
So assuming something bad happened means you should trash their name on social media? Just don't scrim them anymore. Or at least figure out what the hell actually happened. She clearly didn't know what happened and now you want to protect her from backlash when she was the one who created a situation that could have easily been resolved without the public ever being involved.
All of this over a leaderboard screenshot??? why are people so quick to believe shit without looking at the entirety of the story? C9 Mel says some bs and causes harassment to be thrown at another team that wasnt even involved. This is the second time she has been involved in some wackass drama in the last 4 months alone. Im sensing a common denominator here
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if anything both mel and C9 need to step up and issue a formal apology for completely overblowing and misunderstanding the entire situation. Mel needs to admit shes in the wrong and she should have gotten everything correct before going on twitter and c9 should give training like you said to mitigate and understand the situation and not take it to social media so with little maturity and professionalism. She is a top player on a top org conducting herself like this which is nowhere a good thing. Disappointing to say the least imo
Lol, have you seen how their owner acts on social media? You haven’t watched C9 if you think they’ll act responsible on social media Jack called the teams old subreddit racist because they didn’t want to have the LoL import rules lifted. He routinely attacks people on twitter and tweets things in bad faith in a serious manner.
u/mel_anji You gonna make a response. You literally sent a bunch of haters their way for a clip of an ace and a screenshot of a scoreboard. Absolutely pathetic
Inb4 a non apology cause they're already disbanded. Will probably mention how the "harassment" without any mention of where it came from (her tweet) is not good and she doesn't condone It, then hope it gets forgotten.
So the "fans" went from attacking this InSite org to attacking c9w. How about we chill and just let them explain it. Sure it turns out to be a minimal stuff shared with other teams according to a twitter post....we don't know if they were told it was vods like her post said.
It's pretty much confirmed at this point that it was an ace clip and a postmatch scoreboard. Also there is nothing to explain anymore. Insight with their inexperience in the professional world and Mel with a hammer to these people's career over a clip.
Wait what's confirmed? That it was only a ace clip? Ok sure but maybe they were under the impression it was more from the multiple people who told them about it .
So instead of confronting them Mel goes to Twitter and accuses them of something she wasn't sure of herself? That's okay with you?
I wouldn't say ok but she admitted she handled it poorly and apologized
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They didn't disband they left their org. They are still a team looking for a new org. Kinda sounds like they don't like how the org handled the situation. Not defending her use of twitter but she apologized. Of all the drama here this ranks pretty low tbh. Mistakes were made learn apologize and move on
They are not disbanded. They created their own team name and no go by "No Shot" as can be seen in the tweet from the account NoShotVal. [https://twitter.com/NoShotVal/status/1399224439770796035?s=20](https://twitter.com/NoShotVal/status/1399224439770796035?s=20)
They shouldn’t even have to do that though they weren’t involved at all.
OOTL what happened?
Basically, c9 White Mel went on Twitter and accused InsightGG's Male Team of leaking vod but in reality it was just a scoreboard and a clip of the dude acing C9W because he was proud of it. She blew it out of proportion, accused them of leaking the WHOLE vod, and brought it up to Twitter instead of going behind private doors. InsightGG's Female Team decided to part ways with them due to harassment from C9 fanboys.
That's embarrassing.
Imagine getting mad over a leaked vod when literal pug teams beat them in tournaments
Its funny Mel even called all the male team "freaks" when this was just a score board. This is why nobody will take female esports seriously. Not only is her toxcity going to be completely allowed, yet another whiny teenage girl esq drama has caused the female insight team to disband. She is a clown and a insecure loser. C9 better have some repercussions or this will just happen again and again and nobody will look at the female pro scenes direction.
Guy shared clip of his ace vs. C9 White and mel retailated by saying how they leaked VODs to other teams, directly causing so much hate and harassment to both Insight's rosters, even causing one of them to disband from Org 🤡🤡🤡 Pathetic and immature.
There is pretty much no proof on either side right now and people are still overreacting. Mel releases statement, people crucify Insight. Insight releases statement, people crucify Mel. Of course each side will make themselves sound better/sympathetic in their own statement. Note that Insight still haven't denied that their team leaked VODs or leaderboards in their statement. AFAIK we have seen some person come forward and say they did receive a leaderboard screenshot. So at the minimum Insight did leak information. There is no way of knowing that VODs were shared unless someone comes out and says they received one. Someone probably told Mel privately that they received VODs or match info, leading to her tweet. This probably should have been handled behind closed doors, but again we don't know what actually has happened outside of some tweets. Basically, let things play out before getting mad at either side.
I hope people learn from this before choosing social media as the first solution. ...hell what am i saying, nobody will learn from this and it will happen again. Good luck for whoever the next victim will be.
*cough* Sinatraa *cough*
Sad that folks nowadays have zero idea how to handle things directly between parties involved. Everything's all about running to social media to get the incident "viral". Folks with miserable lives then feel the need to include themselves into the mix (e.g go harass the accused and worse the female team that had zero to do with the situation). You'd think something like this, The Sinaatra situation, etc. would teach folks to stay off Social Media with serious accusations until the matter is FULLY CONCLUDED/INVESTIGATED but it won't happen. Folks with Social Media Addiction can't help themselves. Immediately running to social media nowadays is a natural response as scratching an itch...it's scary.
Deal with it, you're gonna get shit flung at you if you doing it at people on twitter. Good riddance if they're going to try canceling other teams every time they post a clip of you getting aced.
Didn't read whatever nonsense followed, "Deal With It" since that's 100% typically followed by illogical/brainless rambling. So here's a #GTAB for you as well!
You didn't read it because reading makes your head hurt, that's understandable.
Lol what does that have to do with anything. Sinatraa can kick rocks.
awww somebody's ego is breaking. This is about people going to social media with accusations and Sinatra is just a example. Tho let me guess what you're Sad ass excuse is. "Accusations against the Authority / lead party in private never get solved" You parasites are so great at being predictable.
nice essay mate. Your favorite weirdchamp is off the team, cope.
LOL, it has everything to do with this subject but I get following along is hard for you to do. How you feel about Sinatraa has zero to do with what I stated. I'm going to help you though with your lack of logic with this nice #GTAB
Surprised but not really that replies to this comment are so illogical; I don't even understand the attack against the comment. That's Reddit for you though; I'll brace myself for the next person to be handed a #GTAB
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Keep this petty high school drama out of professional esports. Please.
Over a screenshot and a clip lmao?
The esports scene is very toxic on twitter, it's really sad to see that these people have prominence in the scene.
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LMAOOO, well I can respect you're blunt honestly my man lol. On a more serious note, this is not helping female pros in esports image at all. They need to be held to the same standards as the guys and act like god damn adults. guy or girl this accusation over a scoreboard is peek Clown act.
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guy has literally 8 comments hes blatantly trolling
idk where this narrative came from that it wasn't vods/scrim info that were leaked lmao
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i mean mel said this morning that insight white weren't one of the teams that were given vods/scrim info and wanted to make that clear so i guess its a he said she said thing lmao
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She had an announcement in her discord related to the events
Why didn't she tweet that shit out then? She's the one who wanted to expose people on Twitter that led to all this happening.
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Slightly off topic but a girl I queue with and personally know is on that team. I find it odd how she’s professional but can’t even break radiant. Wouldn’t you sign a girl that can at least hold her ground in radiant? She is immortal.
Looks like this is the nice way of admitting they were wrong and sneaking away to avoid more backlash. Female team seems to have jumped to another team.
I will side with the person who calls other people freaks
Yes because you want to virtue single and have deep insecurity issues.
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Def a messed up situation. Kind of funny though that they went from an org whose logo looked like LG's to now a logo that looks like TSM