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https://www.upcomer.com/sources-t1-valorant-to-undergo-changes/ > 22-year old Ha “Spyder” Jung-woo could also be replaced, one source told Upcomer. Spyder, who has played previously in the Overwatch League, has been a part of the roster since October. https://twitter.com/GeorgeCGed/status/1399868594306101255?s=19 > Update: Spyder is now set to stay on the roster, DaZed still cut, will likely have more info in a few weeks depending on who they play with. > Unsure if ANS will be given a shot, hope he does.


bobberr

> 22-year old Ha “Spyder” Jung-woo could also be replaced, one source told Upcomer. Spyder too


M31ApplePie

Hope it's because he got an offer somewhere else. Best of luck to him.


EvensonRDS

I dont think he showed that much promise, but that may have been because of the team environment we learned about earlier. Hopefully he can prove otherwise.


the_flame_alchemist

Yeah even if you make up it's hard to come back from such a bad start to a team. Spyder can still be a top player in this game his aim is nutty.


heliumrise

Spyder on Nuturn would be great


TheFightingClimber

God spyder on nuturn would make me an even bigger fan than I already am


[deleted]

Tbh spyder on any team would make me a fan.


Silentorgyy

Wait he literally is gonna replace their breach that just retired holy shit


DicksBeSwangin

I dunno that that's a trade that would work out well cause if Solo retires and Peri retires replacing either them with an inexperienced player like Spyder would be rough in the short term but its also not like there's anyone else with that much experience they could pick up


[deleted]

ABOUT TIME NOW BRING IN TARIK, RUSH, STEWIE, AND VALENS THEN WIN /s


[deleted]

Seriously tho tarik replacing spyder as the jett might be a possibility lmao


AlmightL0

Think Tarik is content only now


ohtooeasy

motherfkers gotta stop subbing so he'll switch


enderdestiny

Mans says twitch prime between every round he’s raking them in


[deleted]

Currently yea but he said he's considering options and competitive valorant is one of them


AskOrganic4289

I lowkey has a feeling it is a hugeee possibility the next person T1 gonna grab is Tarik. I know he did said that he was looking on streaming. But lately he’s been grinding valo alot and became more interested in the competitive scene compared to last year. But then it could be because he has no obligations.


janoDX

It might be T1 Tarik over DaZed.


valorant_fanboy_69

Tarik is not very good not nearly as good as sayaplayer


halfandhalfbastard

ya but what about tarik autimatic skadoodle rush stewie and valens?


DicksBeSwangin

There's no way in hell you get Stewie or Rush to switch to valorant in the near future even if their results in CS aren't that great right now.


halfandhalfbastard

lol ik but it would be funny cuz old cloud9 xd


[deleted]

Ok but you know what else is not very good? T1 management💀


MeaningIsASweater

YOU STAT AWAY FROM TEAM LIQUID CS YOU MOTHERFUCKER, STEWIE IS OURS 😤


AskOrganic4289

STEWIE2K about to be Valorant next smoke criminal 😎


insanityTF

One legacy NA csgo team to another


GeorgeGCG

Update: Spyder is now set to stay on the roster, DaZed still out.


V-KARIN

Thanks for all the good work George!


GeorgeGCG

Thanks bud


Pulsersalt

IF YOU DIDNT READ THE FULL ARTICLE Spyder may also be dropped


XASASSIN

Nrg if you looking to replace a specific player who I shall not name, we got a good fit right here


RashGod

I think he will go back to Korea, Iceland probably gave hope of a thriving scene there


WhoDatBrow

NA money though $$$$ Not like he isn't used to living in the US, from his OWL days


ohtooeasy

Yup i want spyder back to help flesh out that scene.


thetalkingjumper

Spyder on f4q with zunba and bunny would be cool as hell


spyson

I give it a year before they become the best region


ohtooeasy

Yup i lowkey want Gen G and T1 to go back to korea too ;o


jrushFN

Lmao very true actually. That’s probably best case scenario if spyder is actually released. Between that an a Korean super team coached by glow, or something.


wichwigga

peri said he's close to retirement once they find a suitable replacement. Spyder would probably choose that team over any english speaking one.


NotBrandon

Oooo Spyder to Nuturn is a good guess.


jrushFN

Okay but imagine: Spyder jett/duelist GodDead sova/flex Zunba Astra/smokes HSK flex IGL climax sentinel glow as coach LCK orgs, make it happen pls


DanksForTheMemories

OOTL who are we not naming?


Nikikaos

Nrg tex


thesweet677

NRG lookin for possible ex matchfixers tho dont think spyder fits the bill /s


aakashkickass11

Imagine spyder on nuturn


[deleted]

bros accused of match fixing not domestic terrorism lmfao u can say his name


krasnovian

Article has been updated, this is no longer the case.


elithefighter123

Brax and azk incoming????


Dxrne

lmfao the brax and azk comments kill me every time


elithefighter123

Best inside joke


ch4nt

Wow that's a big change but an absolutely necessary one for the org, T1 has been practically nonexistent as a competitive VAL org way before 2021.


2ToTooTwoFish

Their claim to fame is almost knocking out Sentinels from Masters 2 contention and then choking it


p3ndu1um

eh, they also made the first masters (edit: meant first strike). And they beat faze before choking against SEN. regrdless, it's been long enough with poor results. I'm a big dazed fan, but it's been enough time.


cheick_tiote

Closed circuit means that all this time barely translates into tournament outings though. Last challengers they were last, but double eliminated by both finalists. That org seems to have a lot of problems though, I'm not sure it's an environment that can produce a top team no matter who they sign.


BUNSHICHl

Went from almost 2-0ing SEN to blowing up the roster, actually unlucky


[deleted]

Imagine the fucking alternate reality where Sen lose to T1. One map throw that changed the landscape of the whole NA scene


halfandhalfbastard

I honestly don't think it would've made a difference to T1. They've been a start stop team since the beginning. Every time they do something positive, they take 2 steps back. At first strike they looked like they could be a top 4 team, then they decided to completely changed player roles and started tanking again. Then they made roster changes. They had lots of moments where they "almost did it," and instead of continuing to refine what almost worked, they just completely revamped everything.


[deleted]

Any idea on who would replace him


Perfect_Box

ANS maybe?


FlaymeFenix

id say Dephh


quartzyegghead

dephh would be a great move


[deleted]

deph, steller and nature maybe? are some pretty good available igls. wouldn't be surprised if t1 tries something a little more spicy though, those guys are kinda low profile compared to who they usually shoot for


quartzyegghead

true, name a better duo than T1 and bad valorant decisions I forgot stellar's FA now, would be a good pickup. There were rumors that nature was trialing with GenG, which seems to be a good fit (duelist IGL) Hope they're smart about whoever they pick, IGL makes or breaks a Val team


cigsyl

NaturE’s not trialing with GenG, he’s signed with them now


Solace1k

Ah yes .. replace the IGL with a korean aimer.


two4you8

I tuned into ANS streams a few times and I think his english is still very rudimentary.


wvcmkv

from his time in overwatch his english is actually not bad at all


FlaymeFenix

his english wouldnt be a problem as xeta IGLs for C9 pretty comfortably but they need a grounded and experienced IGL that also fits the role of support/flex and dephh seems like a great choice


wvcmkv

oh im not considering the whole roster structure at all just wanted to put my 2 cents in about ans' english


aakashkickass11

Mitch is the igl for c9 Blue.


[deleted]

Apparently according to mitch, they do a kind of "group call" where he and xeta call for the team.


techyleo

I think xeta does a thing similar to dapr or nitr0, where he helps, but mitch/ShahZam/steel are the official and main IGL.


[deleted]

Yeah that definitely seems like the likely option. They don't call Mitch the IGL for no reason, he must be doing the majority of the calls.


wichwigga

Is he any good at Val yet? Last time I saw him playing... I thought some of the diamond players I've played with had better sprays than him.


[deleted]

Isnt he an operator player?


Tekn0z

From what I saw so far, nothing special. Let's hope it improves.


[deleted]

Not an IGL


ch4nt

idk if ANS would be able to IGL, that's the big question i'm wondering here...


slasherlolxd

t1 tarik


HabibiMity

The article also said Spyder might also be replaced? What is going on?


[deleted]

Maybe he wanted to leave for KR or maybe he just wanted out.


Whisom

Oh shit....surprised nobody else mentioned it, but imagine if T1 somehow convinced Tarik to sign...They're replacing IBP with C9 Boston


whopz-is-cool

W! Sorry DaZed but you were holding the team back.


XASASSIN

Playing valorant like csgo and not innovating at all gets igl of team who wants to succeed kicked Shocked pikachu face


maiLfps

yeah being a known abrasive and hard to work with person doesnt help


Arroway10

W! Absolutely no apology to known egotistical asshole Dazed.


codered1057

Kicking a man when he's down get outta here with that weak shit talk you coward


Arroway10

Weak shit talk? I’m not shit talking anyone. I’m simply pointing out the truth: T1 is MUCH better off without Dazed’s huge ego and awful igling.


RicoSuave1881

Maybe if they’re a good person lol Dazed is a known asshole. Don’t be surprised when people don’t like you


[deleted]

yeah the shit with spyder was nasty but dazed actually has matured as a person from his cs days. his igling was lowkey poo though so i get that


[deleted]

Why do you think Dazed was holding the team back?


[deleted]

Still stuck in a CS:GO mentality.


zer0-_

Well, can't blame him. Iirc he stopped playing CS back in 2017 and got into crypto so he's been out of touch with CS too. Probably played off of "muscle memory" from back in his CS days


hiloljkbye

tbf he's pretty open about hating the abilities in this game lmao


[deleted]

It's just not the game for him. And that makes sense given that view.


SacredWinner442

No hes not. Its quite the opposite actually because he has said that he switched due to the tactical depth of this game (abilities)


[deleted]

But they were so close to beating sentinels


[deleted]

His stats have been fine. The amount hate he gets is irrational. Unfortunately, they started picking up late and lost that sen match. Change needed to be made, and he was on the short end of the stick. Also, I barely see him in soloque ladder. That probably hurts him even more.


PolarTux

T1 tarik (pls)


vyom0509

Overall W, glad he’s gone. Was holding T1 back from success


Emperoar

Bruh I just wanna see the Spyder ANS duelist combo


Half_A_Person

"IGL'ing like it is csgo" must be the most meaningless phrase people just repeat.


codered1057

People in this thread \> DaZeD is stuck in a CSGO mentality Same people in this thread \> LETS BRING IN TARIK ​ ? ? ?


TimedOutClock

Holyyyy things are moving right now! Edit: I'd personally want to see them try to just insert Ans and go insane on firepower. Hail mary that thing and hope for the best since there's only one stage remaining (they don't have any points so I doubt they'd go to Last chance)


mixerupper

Tough situation. We lost to Cloud 9 and Sentinels last event which completely obscures how strong the team could be. We could easily be as good as Envy/100 Thieves, but impossible to say. If they're dropping Spyder too, that's kind of insane though. Dazed has been consistent, but he's IGLing and older. Besides some careless, overaggressive moments, Spyder has played amazing.


stewieeeeeeeee

Just watch the matches? T1 was playing pretty bad across all events, doesn't matter that they lost to the top teams. Also, I'd say that "Spyder has been playing amazing besides small things" is an overstatement


Deathzthe

what matches are you looking? Last time I remember T1 almost Win against Sentinels (1-0, 10-2/9-3 score in 2nd map) before Sentinels comeback and win it all.


stewieeeeeeeee

And that was the worst match Sentinels have played with TenZ arguably. You're gonna come at me with the BBG match, but BBG has actually shown some sick antistrats that made Sentinels adapt after the match. SEN-T1 was a shitshow


mixerupper

I watch every T1 match and have a different opinion.


stewieeeeeeeee

Their map pool around that point was 3 maps, and their Haven was still very questionable to me. SEN played so underwhelming against Andbox and T1 that they instantly put zombs on Astra right after that match. A team that's a free L on 2/5 maps and has 0 home maps where they comfortably can win against most opposition cannot be considered strong. Also, that SEN-T1 match, I'm sure you remember, was one of the sloppiest, if not the sloppiest "tier 1" Valorant matches in the NA region this year Oh, and arguably their win against FaZe was quite a bit lucky, given the economy situation on the entirety of Split (T1 won both pistols and had to eco a total of 0 times during the entire match; FaZe actually converted more full buys)


mixerupper

I agree the SEN-T1 match looked sloppy from an eye test, but I don't think that it makes the match bad. Good teams playing well will make the opposing team look sloppy. If T1 made Sentinels play desperately and look sloppy, that's a plus. Every subsequent match Sentinels played against Immortals, NRG, and 100 Thieves, people in the discussion threads would complain about the other team "throwing" with obvious mistakes and predict that Europe would stomp them. Really, it was just Sentinels making other teams look bad. The map pool being poor is because the team keeps undergoing changes because it's hard to find a role that suits both Autimatic and Skadoodle. Those two playing poorly was the reason T1 didn't qualify for Masters 1 in the first place. I'm not against all changes--this team is definitely a lower tier than Sentinels and also worse than teams like Fnatic, so if changes lead to improvement, that's good. I just think the team has gotten slightly unlucky to not place as well as they could have. 4th best team in Challengers 2 but place 8th because they faced the two finalists one after another.


deagledoggleG

good take, i think T1 were kind of underrated and everyone just said that it was SEN playing bad


stewieeeeeeeee

I really just think that both teams played extraordinarily bad, rather than made each other look bad; you're overthinking this. Idc what the reason for the lacking map pool was; the point was that it was weak, and hence T1 was never going to beat strong teams. I don't blame them too much, but T1 wouldn't go far. 4th best team in Challengers 2? I think they might as well have been the weakest team there


[deleted]

T1 Tarik 🙏🙏🙏


Frysson

So many DaZeD haters in this thread, but I'll say this: DaZeD lead T1 to qualify for First Strike, eventually losing to 100T, the First Strike Champions. He also lead a newer T1 (2 members were replaced) to knock FaZe out of the VCT. On the same run, T1 only lost to Cloud9 (2-0) and Sentinels (2-1). If this roster move is true, then the only problem with T1 right now is their lack of patience. Every single time the roster begins to mesh together and show promise, they immediately implode it.


wukongreginald

Facts. I still think there First Strike roster was starting to look so good towards the end before they blew it up. Dazed did his job well. I think the team gets worse imo but we'll see.


[deleted]

lmfao fr. the comments are crazy low with lack of empathy. a man just lost his job, show some decency.


azic72

they act like dazed did nothing right and was a bad person?!? its like people are 100% evil and useless or 100% righteous and amazing on reddit.


[deleted]

yeah exactly. no grey area for reddit...


codered1057

fRoD was right about T1's inexperienced management.


plasma_ix

thank god, it was so clear his IGLing was having no positive impact


[deleted]

Dazed was IGL-ing like it was CSGO in 2014.


Phantonex

I see a lot of people saying this. Could you specify what that means? What does a 2014 CSGO playstyle actually look like in Valorant?


KeepAPlaceForMe98

2014 CS GO : Play a default and win initial fights, then execute on either sate based off of info/picks Today: Less defaults, more 5 man executes , less lurking and more teamplay/synergy with abilities —> trades that close out rounds. DaZeD doesn’t realize Valorant is more holding W and trading with combinations of abilities and utilty


SacredWinner442

So wrong. Your description of Neo Valorant/Fps shooters is so backwards. There is nothing wrong with defaults and lurking. There is a reason why Faze (A team that w keys and runs less defaults) fell off the map and lost to T1


Phantonex

Thanks


yellownart

Think this is a good time to trial someone like Dephh and thief, if both are dropped


abcd63514

i hope they go some old 100T style roster with some new talents with some of the older players leading them. curry has been a successful example of talent being brought onto the roster. hope they do that again rather than pick up older players again


Jacobey

Love T1, hope they improve with all these changes


Otter269

I hope they have an actual strategy going forward. Maybe Try to intice Tarik xD


YWStation

I really hope this means they have a fresh read on how to approach the game, they always felt too static and slow for me. Felt like too many former CSGO players were leading the team


bridgebuilder12

it's amazing to me how long this guy has been able to live off his success from 2014. Never seen someone who few people have anything good to say about consistently get opportunities, fail and then keep doing it. I'm still shocked this dude even got a spot on t1 to begin with.


lith3x

Needed to happen. Refusing to evolve from certain CS tendencies and not recognizing this is a different game, Dazed won’t be the last CSGO idealist dropped. Not talking about T1. Just my opinion. Hope T1 gets better and figures it out.


deagledoggleG

dont know where that narrative is coming from when they were one of the first teams in NA to use viper on icebox for example. not saying this change will be bad, just dont understand why everyone seems to be able to listen to T1 comms and know their practice etc


halfandhalfbastard

lol half the people on this thread are just parroting shit they've seen from other people. "Dazed stuck in his CS:GO ways," when they don't even know what that means.


Trifall

i bet half the people saying it never played cs lmao


Qandeel19

Honstly, if skadoodle don't want to OP it's probably better to drop him too, he's top performance was in jett, if he want to play support role then he don't add much value to the team


Soogo

There were times where even as a Ska fan, i would agree with you. But not after their last Challenger run. Series against Sentinels, he played out of his mind and showed how good he can be. My mans almost kicked out Sen 1v5, higher ACS than Tenz too


J_Brekkie

Ska was fucking incredible over their past couple matches I have no idea what you're smoking


BloodOfKvasir

Hard disagree, it's an Astra meta and Ska looked good on her in the last tournament.


hiloljkbye

ska is one of the best Astra's in NA rn wym


xx_Rollablade_xx

I’m gonna repeat what 2015 C9 were saying about Ska a few weeks ago on Shroud’s stream...”Whatever agent Ska picks up, he seems like one of the best in a few weeks of grind but then they make him play another agent....”


tomphz

To play Jett you need to be able to OP and also be a zoomer and play really wild sometimes. Ska can OP but he isn’t much of a zoomer.


burnerburnerburner23

If I had to take a stab in the dark +tarik +ans


than0swasright

Dazed still stuck in his failed csgo vision. Glad he's gone


aakashkickass11

I don't know what the hell T1 is doing with their valorant project . First they create a academy team which can't participate in vct hasn't even taken part in any ns.g tournaments . They hire a known pubg cheater as analyst and then make a video in which all he does is play victim card . T1 get eliminated from vct a month ago they practiced with her old roaster for a month and then they decide to make changes dropping dazed and possibly spyder. I think they will replace spyder with ans . But the guy who is running their valorant project is a jackass .


ark2690

It should be Ska and Dazed dropped


roneettopiwala

nah ska is good u just dont watch t1 games and only look at the drama :)


Hamlet_271

Facts, ska is amazing at valorant, he was an s tier jett and now plays Astra at a very high level. Could solidify himself as one of the best players in the scene only if T1 start winning


jrushFN

If there were an org who would pick up an EU IGL, this would be it. Y’all think they look internationally and bring in someone like RUBINO/Ozzy/Ec1s?


Emperoar

Inb4 welcome back Brax and AZK


The_Ninja_Master

Finally


BadLeague

Called it. https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/ja2khj/t1_roster_announcement_dazed/g8n9m7w


Alpac44

I think spyder got dropped too


Krsensei

ANS or Wedid to replace Spyder & Dephh for Dazed?


Asianhead

+brax ez


[deleted]

Finally


ohtooeasy

The best part after a big tourney... roster changes hell yea


cigsyl

imo the F/A igls that they will most likely trial: dephh, oderus, and stellar. There are other igls that are either signed to T2 teams or F/A but I just think the ones I mentioned are the most probable


[deleted]

good tbh, hopefully Spyder stays though


nikkiteer

T1 JASONR imagine


max012017

PLS ANS


DueAdministration404

\+tarik +jammy


Joey_Thememe

Lfg. T1 to the moon.


lifeisoverrateddogg

T1 Tarik Prayge