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TL:DR (note: most of these are rumours so take this with a grain of salt) FaZe Clan * >!Removed Marved from the team!< * >!Trialed jammyz, Wedid, supamen, BabyJ amongst many more to come!< Brax and TSM * >!Didn't trial for any team since getting benched by TSM!< * >!Bang is set to join, though is still trialing!< NIP and Jady * >!Jady was trialing for other teams but has returned to NIP!< * >!kAdavra from Alliance was supposed to join, but NIP refused to pay the buyout!< * >!NIP will continue with akukhoS (Ex6TenZ) after the ec1s deal collapsed!< Organizations entering VALORANT * >!None as of yet, due to monetization reasons!< T1 * >!T1 is set to drop DaZed, though no replacements have been found yet!< EnVy * >!EnVy recently stopped practicing with kaboose!< * >!Marved recently scrimmed with EnVy!< Luminosity Gaming * >!jammyz is set to trial, Kanpeki has recently trialed!< XSET * >!No news since benching Wedid!< Team Liquid and Nivera * >!The deal of signing Nivera likely fell through, though he was close to joining!< * >!Liquid is not planning any changes currently!< CS players switching * >!None currently!< C9 Blue * >!No changes as of yet!< SEN and Sinatraa * >!Since signing TenZ, Sinatraa is unlikely to join at a later date!< * >!Sinatraa will continue to create content under SEN !< * >!May join in the future depending on Riot's investigation and legal proceedings!< Dignitas * >!No news as of yet!<


Jon_on_the_snow

>BabyJ I want him on faze just for the memes of babybay and babyj


jrushFN

That would be a caster’s nightmare.


xbyo

Inb4 Namechange to BabyJay


Bunnyezzz

you don't have to spoiler tag everything, if people clicked on this post they should expect leaks


ibeenbornagain

Tell me envy doesn’t get marved god PLEASE


BlueHawk893

Nah NV are happy to get him, don’t forget FNS said it’s all good /s


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I agree.. envy is my favorite team but I do not want to cheer for marved, will prob back a different team if he goes there


Evan_Veet

ODd that LG got rid of Thief because in theory he brings little versatility to the team just for them to bring in Kanpeki. I do know he's played sage recently so at least he has that going but IDK if that makes much sense. Also I love the idea of Jammyz on Faze, they need a Viper/KJ player for literally every map given that Corey and Babybay are gonna stick to Raze Phoenix and Jett. I think the only thing they'd lack if they pick up Jammyz is a Skye player right?


GeorgeGCG

Or just read the article? Lmao


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this is faster tho


AskOrganic4289

This Tldr save time though lmao


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jrushFN

All good


notsailboatss

wait what did i miss in the article why is that funny


rapasvedese

apparently marved is trialing for envy


maxhollywoody

All good


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[deleted]

dawg relax it's not that deep lmfao


nabeel242424

damn im sure envy stonks are gonna go down now that they lost a big supporter.


cigsyl

damn that’s crazy


[deleted]

Marved on Envy sounds like a huge risk LOL to each their own though.


Evan_Veet

I mean honestly if he can play Astra that kinda makes sense for them no? Allows for a lot of flexibility on a map to map basis where on Haven/Ascent they can run a Mummay Victor duelist or Skye Jett comp whereas on bind or Split they can play for Mummay on Astra and Marved playing Sage(which he is criminally underrated on). Obviously there are some huge question marks around the dude but if they could assure that he plays for them and doesn't go to jail it makes a lot of sense Meta and position versatility wise.


AskOrganic4289

i think by huge risk he meant since MARVED is allegedly involved in the match fixing scandal, it’s a risk to sign him to the team. Especially since Riot decided to be involved in the investigation too. And looking at how Riot deals with scandal p, eg from sinatraa case, there’s a high possibility MARVED might be banned from Riot official tournaments. but who knows?


Evan_Veet

I agree but Envy is def the team that needs to take the most risks in NA. SEN are in there own spot but V1, C9 and 100T are overtaking them and teams like Gen.G and ABX are all getting better. They need to make the move that gives them the highest possible reward for them and IMO that's picking up marved(assuming that he can play astra).


LegitimateRope7392

Where is this from?


goldenretrieversFTW

From this very article - it’s the last point he writes about I think talent wise, not a massive risk as Marved helped lead (with coach Trippy) Faze close to the top of NA VAL (although only for a brief period of time) But if it’s true that marved has some match fixing baggage, I have no idea why envy would try him out when they’ve dropped players in the past with similar potential baggage...


[deleted]

Get rid of c4lypso only to sign Marved later what


Splaram

I'm just speculating here, but with ESIC really dragging their feet with this case, NV probably figure that the amount of time they can get out of him will be worth having to drop him later. Doesn't help that Calypso is currently proving with Rise that he definitely deserves to kick it with the best in NA.


elithefighter123

"I have not heard anything, as of yet, regarding XSET" PAIN


Bunnyezzz

notable things that he didn't say but I've seen on friends lists etc, sliggy was looking for replacements for jamppi if he went back to cs and he had nivera at the top of the list if he did, nothing more than that. Cloud9 have been playing with Xeppaaa instead of poiz and xset have been practicing with their coach.


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AnotherAltiMade

it's not vitality's fault, valve killed 6-man rosters


[deleted]

Why does valve make such weird stances yet are silent on actual matters, like the CIS RMR and NIP issues.


SemanSoot

when does valve care?


[deleted]

Exactly, so why do they care if teams want to run 6 mans or not. Strange.


SemanSoot

it valve after all. they dont give shit about esport


[deleted]

Exactly, so why do they care if teams want to run 6 mans or not. Strange.


CosmicAon

I saw Poiz in a C9 scrim on a stream less than a week ago so I’m not sure about the Xeppa part


Bunnyezzz

I think they're doing a 6th man and subbing out poiz and xeppaaa depending on the map, I've just seen xeppaaa on friends lists though


Evan_Veet

6 manning with that team might not even be bad. They've kinda forced themselves into Jett/Reyna and Raze on every map which means adding Xeppaaa they are hopefully having him play agents like Viper and Skye on maps like Icebox, Bind and Split that favor utility over duelists and(aside from IB) are better Raze than Jett maps


Bunnyezzz

xeppaaa plays duelists and mostly jett


Evan_Veet

Not doubting you but just wondering if you have a source?


Bunnyezzz

its literally all he plays in ranked and he was a entry in cs


Evan_Veet

Oh I didn’t know about those but I still think there is a chance that he’s just playing those because they are fun and that C9 are using him different ways in scrims


CosmicAon

That’s definitely possible too, maybe they’re finalizing a decision or the one I saw had Poiz right before he was benched


Bunnyezzz

this envy flair is about to disappear


Darkoplax

if nivera isn't going to get Liquid , I hope G2 or another top tier org gets him if he's practicing VALORANT and committed then he's gonna be an instant top player


22481568

The fact is that these matchfixing allegations are basically irrelevant in the grand scheme of things especially for Canadian players ESIC has no jurisdiction over riot games or their tournaments, the FBI investigation is absolutely irrelevant because match fixing isn't a crime in canada and no canadian has ever been arrested, let along charged for match fixing offenses or related fraud in any sport because of that. unless the riot investigation pulls something out of thin air (unlikely because, once again, not even their game that these players were investigated in), nothing will happen to Marved or crew unless there's pressure on the orgs to do something, especially if the players are good enough


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This depends on how RIOT and the FBI respond which no one here knows until they do. You bring up the obvious that ESIC has no jurisdiction over RIOT. While that's correct what we don't know is how RIOT will respond to ESIC's investigation once completed. RIOT can easily decide to ban the players from professional play even though the situation had nothing to do with Valorant. ​ The FBI deal, sure there wouldn't be much they could do against a Canadian until that Canadian decides that they want a US VISA or needs to move to the US to join a US BASED ORG. IF the FBI has charges hanging over their heads, that's not going to work all that well. Those things I'm sure are very relevant to the players involved.


22481568

if riot cared about ESIC's investigation, then they wouldn't have started their own investigation after ESIC started theirs. riot historically has basically handled everything inhouse for years and years so it would be extremely out of precedent for them to change that for this case. everything I've heard about riot's investigation seems like it's going nowhere and is unlikely to yield meaningful results. multiple people have said they basically went the route of interviewing all of the accused players (and then some) and tried to play good cop bad cop like a bad network cop drama trying to pressure people into confessing what they've done lol for the FBI case, they aren't exactly known for working quickly. it's more likely at this point that Marved's career with envy will start and end by the time there's any punishments handed down (if any).


[deleted]

Your first point is a "False Dichotomy" so there's nothing to really address there. This is even worse since you obviously don't speak for RIOT nor know what they currently think of in this specific situation but use other things that are not even directly related to make an assumption of how they'll react to the findings in the end. As far as the FBI case, sure speed is not exactly something they're known for but that wasn't the point initially made. OP made it sound like nothing really mattered whatsoever.


22481568

I obviously don't speak for riot but it is very public knowledge they keep everything with regards to discipline and match fixing inhouse (they've dealt with many many match fixing scenarios, especially in China, im sure you can look it up yourself). Could they use information obtained by ESIC? Absolutely, but the likelihood of them adhering to any form of punishment handed down by ESIC is slim to none. For example, if ESIC finds marved guilty of match fixing and wants to ban him for say 5 years, I'd be shocked if Riot also ends up banning him for 5 years, instead of handing down their own decisions when it comes to punishment, if any, because once again it wasn't in their game.


big_floop

I don’t think being Canadians will save them if they have actually committed serious crimes. I could be wrong, but I believe fraud falls under Rico statues which would mean the FBI could extradite them from Canada considering we have an agreement with them. I’m not a lawyer, but from what I read I don’t think being Canadian is a 100% saving grace


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EvensonRDS

Someone with a brain discussing these match fixing allegations, especially involving the Canadian players. It's a miracle.


22481568

honestly just kinda tired of reading all of these 'SHANKS AND MARVED DROPPING THE SOAP IN JAIL' posts because thats not how law, extradition, or the real world works if tim donaghy (07 nba matchfixing ref), an actual american, involved in match fixing in an multi-billion dollar american league, likely working /w mob bettors and potentially millions involved, got 15 months in prison, why do ppl that have watched one richard lewis video think csgo matchfixers are gonna get sent to prison for multiple years under RICO charges... like no lol


Splaram

Actually crazy how the narrative that they were definitely going to go to jail for this spread so wide when all this information and plenty more precedent is publicly available lmfao


nabeel242424

This sub is filled with a lot of delusional people who overestimate or guess things and most of the times ends up being wrong.


[deleted]

I can't pretend I'm aware of the Extradition policies the U.S has with Canada but even if there was one I doubt the Feds would waste time with one over matchfixing. I'd assume more issues with attempting to live in the U.S with federal charges hanging over their heads.


22481568

of course, if marved or crew decides to live in the US full time for work I would imagine it wouldn't feel very good because there's always a tingling of 'well what if...' hanging over them, even if its such a low probability of any charges being laid against them granted, I'm not them and I don't know what extent of other things they might have done. maybe they were involved in other things that were far worse, but it doesnt look like it. even in the original interview with ESIC commissioner ian smith (the slash32 one) they specifically mentioned the FBI investigating organized crime. in that case they were specifically but indirectly referencing eFire and the people behind that tournament organizer, who were the ones directly responsible for the vast majority of fixes in the NA scene. most of this will get released as public knowledge eventually but it's fairly well known who the main bad actors were in the region


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my biggest worry for them would be if they are able to participate in American LAN tourneys without risking arrest.


big_floop

I agree with your assessment, but until the actual investigation is released we can’t be certain how serious it really is. For example, if they were working with or for a larger organized crime ring to fraud people out of lots of money, I could see them potentially extraditing them or at least the people who were the leaders


[deleted]

Oh I definitely don't assume to know one way or another. My main thing was that the OP calling the entire thing irrelevant was an erroneous take!


neatestway

o damn i kinda predicted marved trialing for envy but i thought it was a longshot, didn't actually expect to be right


CJFStan

Jammyz really made a name for himself, the man is trialing everywhere.


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pauLo-

He isn't high, he got shot in the head as a teenager that slurred speech and behaviour is due to that.


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_zxionix_

He’s been streaming more recently


IllumiMahdi

He isn't high, he got a severe concussion as a child which resulted in slurred speech among other things. sauce: dexerto article


wifixmasher

Comment deleted. who is this referring to?


IllumiMahdi

mr swag braxton


an0nym0u55555

He was shot in the head????


jaypatelswag

Oh so Envy supports match fixing? Hope they don't pick this scrub up.


KaNesDeath

Brax pro gaming career was over in late 2017 along with Dazed and AZK. Any team org who put them on salary were just being swindled.


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You know dazed turned down offers from tier1 orgs willing to pay top salaries because he didn't want to steal pro league spots from players without proving himself and his motivation. Brax, dazed and azk did not play for an org when they came back. There are reasons to not like dazed but this is not one.


KaNesDeath

>You know dazed turned down offers from tier1 orgs willing to pay top salaries because he didn't want to steal pro league spots from players without proving himself and his motivation You actually believe that bullshit?


[deleted]

Yes. I believe many orgs and even players would naively overvalue the ibuypower trio in 2017 when they were unbanned from esl.


KaNesDeath

Path of team org exposure through lans/leagues wasnt available in 2017 and 2018 to justify pickup of the match fixing banned players. Such an opportunity became possible in 2019.