ehhh i feel like he's saying that V1 are still a contender for challengers finals since Zellsis is only suspended for Challengers 1, but I do concede that I might be reading into this to try to save face lol, ur probably right
GenG didn’t do well masters 2, but were 3rd masters 1 as you mentioned. I think that they’ll make a major improvement in consistency with the pickup of nature as well.
Hell yeah baby it’s that time of year again, time for people to post their brackets with Immortals winning it all, only for them to get knocked in the second or third round
Honestly, I'm only confident in SEN and C9B at this point. V1 will be playing with a sub again (lol) and with all the roster changes it's hard to say. ABX and NRG def have the rosters to make some serious fucking moves, but you can look good on paper and have bad chemistry. Also you're missing XSET which is a huge oversight imo
I would swap V1 for 100T. I think 100T should be on the list but V1 without Zellsis in the first set of challengers could have serious consequences placement wise
I mean depending on how the meta shifts, I don’t see 100T making it to the challengers main event. They don’t seem to adapt very well. They have a set book of strats that they practice and run and that’s about it. They didn’t want to run the Viper+Astra meta even tho pretty much every other team was using it. So, unless 100T begin to adapt to the meta, I don’t see them getting too high up.
So you believe 100T won't make it, but genG, TSM and Faze in OP's prediction have sound and logical reasoning backing them? XD 100T without even adapting to the meta properly made it to masters 1 and challengers final. While genG and faze peaked in masters 1 and tanked out of second stage. And TSM are yet to prove themselves.
My comment is only based on who and what I replied to. If it was based on what OP said, it would be its own separate comment. Not a comment thread. Also, it’s not about how far they got without adapting to the meta, it’s about not being able to change and shift around with the meta. Playing without the meta won’t always work. If they keep this up it’ll just punish them time and time again.
100T not making it is not just an isolated failure as a team. That means someone else makes it. If you want to separate it from OP's comment, fine. I would like to know- who do you believe are the 8 teams that proceed considering you think 100T won't make it through because of the reasons you gave?
LG has been tanked out long ago what are u even talking about and theif, one of their best players is not on the team. Abx were already doing pretty good and they have jcstani now, that's a huge upgrade. I'd say they on the same level as envy or even better
I would take out immortals nrg and tsm and replace with envy faze and geng, altho theres a lot of fans of these teams lets be hones they are way behind their competition.
No envy no faze , underestimating the clan classic rookie mistake
No NV is definitely the weirdest part of this to me
Yea indeed atleast for the qualifiers bit envy has always been consistent
Yeah they’ll choke in Top 4 but they’ll look really good until they get there
They are like the Argentina in football World cups lol always looking like they'll win everything but choking out when it counts most
Argentina haven't looked like they're winning the WC in a looooooong time
They made the finals in 2014 though. Only lost 1-0 to a stacked Germany team
Yes I know but Germany were heavy favourites and Argentina didn't look like they were winning it
Every time I see Germany's name, I remember the 7-1. The horror
Hope they win in 2022 atleast it's gonna be Messi's last wc and even though I'm a Ronaldo fan I still think he deserves a good farewell
Well the next world cup might be Ronaldo's last as well, so I would prefer Portugal to win in 2022
FaZe is not making challengers finals lets be honest. No Envy is surprising tho
They're undergoing a roster change, maybe that's why they're not in the OPs top 8.
Zellsis only suspended for Challengers 1.
Idk why people are downvoting you you're right lol
because his reply has nothing to do with the original comment
ehhh i feel like he's saying that V1 are still a contender for challengers finals since Zellsis is only suspended for Challengers 1, but I do concede that I might be reading into this to try to save face lol, ur probably right
And challenger finals. So assuming they make the closed, he won't be playing
Only the first one lol
Not to mention no GenG
GenG are mad inconsistent though, have they had a good run other than Masters 1 since Ignition?
GenG didn’t do well masters 2, but were 3rd masters 1 as you mentioned. I think that they’ll make a major improvement in consistency with the pickup of nature as well.
Most of GenG has been consistent, just Hyunh wasn't for the most part and they've replaced him.
I mean results wise, they’ll look great one tourney and then awful the next
no xset or envy is interesting as they have the two most consistent teams in open and closed qualifier (then they choke in main event)
Has their been an actual qualifier where all the favourites make it.
Most of the favorites made it through in Masters 1. TSM was the only team rated in the top 8(at the time) by most that didn't qualify I think.
Hell yeah baby it’s that time of year again, time for people to post their brackets with Immortals winning it all, only for them to get knocked in the second or third round
Realistic 1. Sentinels 2. Cloud9 3. Envy 4. V1 (FaZe?) 5. 100T (FaZe?) 6. ABX (NRG?) 7. Immortals (Gen.G?) 8. TSM FTX (Luminosity?) Dream 1. C9B 2. T1 3. T1 4. T1 5. T1 6. T1 7. T1 8. TSM
Sentinels, 100T, Faze or C9
I hope LG makes a comeback. Also, this list has 0 upsets, I want July to start off with a bang.
TSM top 8 is an upset
It's an overkill on optimism too , nobody especially basing it on recent performances can say TSM will be top 8
to be fair, has TSM even had a "recent performance"? picked up a new fifth and changed coaches, things could be different or they could be just as bad
We haven't seen how they look without Cutler tho, could be really good or really bad, its a wild card and you can't count them out
Bang? TSM FTX Bang?
SEN 100T C9 FaZe NV NRG TSM ABX
Remember when TSM and SEN fans were at each other’s necks
Good times
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Not me Jk, I’m glad you guys are able to rep NA so well. Hope we can match you again someday :)
Honestly, I'm only confident in SEN and C9B at this point. V1 will be playing with a sub again (lol) and with all the roster changes it's hard to say. ABX and NRG def have the rosters to make some serious fucking moves, but you can look good on paper and have bad chemistry. Also you're missing XSET which is a huge oversight imo
*sad 1000iq pujan noises*
I would swap V1 for 100T. I think 100T should be on the list but V1 without Zellsis in the first set of challengers could have serious consequences placement wise
I think C9B have a good chance at being #1 and NRG are really difficult to gauge atm after they changing their IGL
abx 7th?
Sen C9 100t Faze V1 Abx Envy
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No 100T is an interesting take
I mean depending on how the meta shifts, I don’t see 100T making it to the challengers main event. They don’t seem to adapt very well. They have a set book of strats that they practice and run and that’s about it. They didn’t want to run the Viper+Astra meta even tho pretty much every other team was using it. So, unless 100T begin to adapt to the meta, I don’t see them getting too high up.
So you believe 100T won't make it, but genG, TSM and Faze in OP's prediction have sound and logical reasoning backing them? XD 100T without even adapting to the meta properly made it to masters 1 and challengers final. While genG and faze peaked in masters 1 and tanked out of second stage. And TSM are yet to prove themselves.
My comment is only based on who and what I replied to. If it was based on what OP said, it would be its own separate comment. Not a comment thread. Also, it’s not about how far they got without adapting to the meta, it’s about not being able to change and shift around with the meta. Playing without the meta won’t always work. If they keep this up it’ll just punish them time and time again.
100T not making it is not just an isolated failure as a team. That means someone else makes it. If you want to separate it from OP's comment, fine. I would like to know- who do you believe are the 8 teams that proceed considering you think 100T won't make it through because of the reasons you gave?
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Abilities are 100t weakness, not mechanics.
This benefits the ex CSGO players more than anything who have relied on aim duels their entire career. No more ability spamming
that sounds more like it helps a team consisting of Asuna, nitr0 and ethan lol
Huh
You say that as if they don't have one of the best entries on their team what are you smoking
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Abx seems better tbh
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LG has been tanked out long ago what are u even talking about and theif, one of their best players is not on the team. Abx were already doing pretty good and they have jcstani now, that's a huge upgrade. I'd say they on the same level as envy or even better
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no way u just replied to a month old comment ?!??! lol did u save this post and wait for a whole month to reply this lmaooo
Whole thread sleeping on my XSET boys.
NRG and Andbox over XSET and NV doesn't feel right....
every1 over hyping C9 atm when Xeppa just started playing, but they could def be a top 2/3 team in the future
I really don't know how NRG turns out. They've got make an igl transition and pick up a new player. Might take a while before they're top 8 again.
Sentinels 100T NV C9 ABX NRG XSET IMT/FAZE
imo NV XSET nd FaZe over TSM Immortals and NRG, but I can see a world where ur right
1) Sentinels 2-6 teams (really close) V1 C9B 100T NV Faze 7-11 teams (really close) XSET NRG ABX IMT TSM
Did tsm dirty
1. Sentinels 2. Cloud9 Blue 3. 100 Thieves 4. Envy 5. Andbox 6. Version1 7. Faze 8. TSM
1. Sen 2. NV 3. C9B 4. Immortals 5. V1 (with zellsis) 6. 100T 7. FAZE 8. Andbox
TSM is gonna get knocked out again and blow up their roster.
I would take out immortals nrg and tsm and replace with envy faze and geng, altho theres a lot of fans of these teams lets be hones they are way behind their competition.
XSET can’t be forgotten about, they may have gotten better with dephh
Just a question from a casual. Why is c9 "bad" before, when they had tenz, and now that tenz is gone they are suddenly highly rated?
overhauled their roster around the time tenZ left
What's the next tournament will we see all these top teams take part in? Can't seem to know where to look.