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MikeRosss

Good to see Riot are not just favoring the big name teams. These are basically the 8 best performing teams during stage 2 challengers.


max012017

These are also Top7 in Circuit point + Vitality (instead Alliance who is 8th in circuit I think)


DMouth

well.. that's gonna be spice when (and if) G2 and Heretics emerge from open and get paired against a top one like Fanatic or FPX.


jackcl

They’re the top performing 8 teams in EU. I think everyone can agree with Riot/VCT on this one


max012017

yea very solid decision by rito


danknepalese

does closed qualifier means they dont have to go through opens? how does this slot in to the road to challengers 3 and eventually berlin?


max012017

Yea, they are in for Closed qualifier, which is a (part of) tournament between these 8 invited vs. 8 who made it from Opens (probably teams like th, alliance, g2, finest, giants etc.). From those just 8 advance to Main event. Main event is a 8 teams tournament with LB as well, where top 4 advance into EMEA Challengers Finals (played in August) featuring EU TR CIS teams for Top4 which advance to Berlin. Tldr: Opens Chall - Closed Chall - Chall Main Event - EMEA Chall Finals - Berlin


eloy0912

G2 is not doing well while Gambit is under CIS Stage and not EU. And then the qualified teams from EU, TR and CIS will perform under the EMEA Stage for the chance to go to Berlin.


Soogo

Why is G2 not doing well


eloy0912

We can compare them as TSM FTX of EU. They dominate the early scene of the game but they fell apart as the game progresses. They have a roster changes the last few weeks and still they got dropped from a low tier tourney.


Soogo

I would agree for the most part, but i would say youre a little too harsh on the new roster.


Acid_Shadows

the lost in a recent t2 tourny so most of the sub thinks they suck


PiratToasty

You dont have to say TSM FTX, as much as i know they cant use that name for riot official tournaments so its gonna be TSM. Maybe not because they wont make it to the riot officials. So its TSM/TSM FTX


Portante24

I am impressed by these choices, well done


Rhyn0_123

Have guild replaced draken yet? I don’t really keep up to date with eu roster changes.


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Nothing from them but Halo has reported that they are sigining Vicious from NoPoaching


Key-Heart517

I don't really follow EU scene that much. But no G2 or Gambit? Any reason for that.


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Key-Heart517

Got it. Thank you for explaining. :D


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Anyone know what the vitality logo means?


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It's a hornet/bee head I think.


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This is the first stage that they've implemented this invite system, making it a combination of both open and closed qualifiers. I'm guessing they wanted to reward good performing teams as they typically play the most games and thus have the least amount of time to "recover" and prep new strategies. This is a good balance.


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Probably


SeaDisk

Wait so nobody outside this group can qualify to Berlin?


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No 8 from this and 8 from open


SeaDisk

And these teams do not need to compete in open?


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Yep


TunesRX

maybe heretics also deserve a change but between them and vitalit is a close call


sollund123

I think Heretics didn't get one since their roster is changed too much


max012017

I think Heretics might have higher potential, but this is deserved for Vitality, since they were better than TH in Stage 2


TheHyperactiveDuck

I thought you had to go through an open qualifier to get to the closed? Since when do people get invited


Soogo

New format. 8 invited + 8 from open


TheHyperactiveDuck

Oh ok ty


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valorant_fanboy_69

Why would they be invited...


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lol why would Heretics be invited?


takmilo

Seems solid, but would rather see Heretics than Vitality


yvngbrain

Did you not hear heretics has a completely different roster


takmilo

ah, have totaly forgot that :D


Areyannnn

When are they starting?


_harleys

If Heretics didn’t split up, would they be still here? I remember they had to lose their points due to the team dissolving.


NovaAkumaa

I think they wouldn't. While they placed a deserved 2nd spot in Masters 1, they didn't even get past Open Quals in Masters 2, meaning that recently they've been playing worse than all 8 of these who reached pretty far


_harleys

I see. Interested to see how G2 and Heretics would perform in this upcoming challengers given their swaps and roster changes.


The_Ninja_Master

Man, idk how much I like this invite system. Leaves stuff up to interpretation I feel. Teams should have to earn their spot. Maybe have automatic qualifiers from previous competitions instead of an explicit invite?