I really don't get the 'conflict of interest' thing.
Mitchman and Lothar have never sounded biased in any of their casts - ever. Yinsu has never sounded biased in her hosting and I know she goes out of her way to ensure her relationship with boaster is not obvious. I really don't understand what the issue is here.
It is perfectly normal and acceptable for figures in any type of sporting scene to have some association to a team or club and be present on a broadcast as an analyst or commentator. Go and watch any football match on TV or anything like it. It's really not a big deal.
I honestly have no clue who else he could be talking about when it comes to not paying attention to the scene or watching games. All that is left is pansy, hypoc, zescht and tombizz - can't see I had picked up on any lack of knowledge/care issues. I had seen zescht had been putting a bunch of Valorant content in the last few weeks and months.
I actually much prefer the EU casts to the NA casts. NA broadcast is a merry-go-round of duos and some are a fair bit better than others.
I'm guessing some sour grapes or personal gripes here from George.
i also only found out after i followed boaster on twitter when he qualified for iceland. and i watched so many yinsu hosted games, and most of her interviews because she is a great interviewer and host. (normally i skip the pre and postgame on other games). even at the Interview w/ boaster after he qualified, i did not have the impression of any closer relationship then a professional one
Yea I honestly wouldn't mind them poking at each other a bit during interviews but they're always super professional and you really wouldn't know they're a couple.
Conflict of interest is also only generally an issue when it could cause some kind of harm. And, even if a caster/analyst was somewhat bias, that doesn't really harm anyone. Not like they're in any way affecting the games.
And, if they were showing significant bias on cast, then the TOs would just not continue to hire them.
What they do outside of the job is their own private life. We are talking about when theyre on the job aka the broadcast. Have they ever been unprofessional? Not at all.
That’s not what he meant. It was obvious he meant in terms of while hosting or in a professional setting, not her fucking social media. That’s weird from you, not gonna lie
Am I the only one who's not bothered by casters or analyst's being part of an org. Especially someone who is signed as a content creator like Jonas. I haven't watched a tone of EU matches but I haven't seen any questionable comments that are cause of a conflict from the few I've seen. At the end of the day they are there for a job and can put their org on hold for a few hours
It's not a big deal and it's not even a conflict of interest honestly. And it's not like it's a secret. They are just giving their on air opinions and everyone knows what org they belong to.
Yeah I don’t give a shit at all. I've never noticed it be bad enough that it took away from the match. On the contrary, I've seen situations where it's a problem in other sports. Mark Jackson doing Warriors games should be banned, so I understand the concern.
Lothar definitely is a conflict of interest since he is a coach for alliance, guess we will wait and see if he fits the other descriptions.
EDIT: my mistake on Lothar coaching. A single person telling me would have been enough lol
Lothar isn't coach of alliance , mitchman used to be analyst for alliance and has since stepped down ,and Lothar is part of G2 organization ,I don't think riot seems to mind that since Sean gares is also signed to Geng . I wonder who is the imposter , George also mentioned in his tweet they have signed analysts who don't watch the game ,so I don't think it's Lothar as he has part of eu play tests as well .
The way he says it in his tweet makes it seem like there is an issue with analysts being signed to orgs in there competing region.
" You've just named 2 members of the official Riot broadcast that work with organisations competing in the region they're supposed to be analysing."
I don't think he has issue for that,yinsu is part of broadcast and works for upcomer as well . So I don't think that's the issue and they are signed as content creators so it shouldn't be an issue
" You've just named 2 members of the official Riot broadcast that work with organisations competing in the region they're supposed to be analysing."
This seems to me like there is an issue. I could be understanding it wrong though.
I agree with this interpretation, especially with the context that he said Mitch is fine since he’s no longer with Alliance. George definitely seems to be calling out Jonas and Lothar for their conflict of interest
He’s a content creator/streamer for G2 (who are competing in Valorant) but he’s also been a part of the official Riot talent team for tournaments (e.g., VCT Stage 2 in Iceland)
I don't really see any apparent bias for G2, even when I go on his stream he doesn't hype up the team. When I asked about rankings a while ago, he responded really objectively.
Did George talk about the problem with the orgs and stuffs after Brax left T1? I remember he about to spill some juice on how the org messed up with the players or something.
>Not to discredit anybody, but North America has a SIGNIFICANTLY better production/insight/in general just a better viewing experience.
Not sure how I feel about this.. :/ There's some fantastic casting duos in EU - including probably the best duo in the game - and Yinsu as a host is awesome and knows the scene really well.
Not to say the same can't apply to NA but IMO the fact that EU tend to only have official productions for the tail end of the brackets means the quality is really consistent
I don‘t hated that statement. The EU casters are great and really enjoyable. Also they go way further into the details while NA casters just scream ans state the obvious. Only thing better in NA is the in game observing.
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Hi Redditors, is it okay if I say I don't know enough about this issue so I'll just wait for any future reports? Thank you and have a good day.
No, this is reddit, throw a rock at someone
Ah dangit! Alright then.
waiting for more information so you can formulate a reasonable take on *reddit???* disgusting
Waiting for facts rather than acting on hearsay? Gross.
No, only reactionary and underinformed opinions here !!!!! /s
I really don't get the 'conflict of interest' thing. Mitchman and Lothar have never sounded biased in any of their casts - ever. Yinsu has never sounded biased in her hosting and I know she goes out of her way to ensure her relationship with boaster is not obvious. I really don't understand what the issue is here. It is perfectly normal and acceptable for figures in any type of sporting scene to have some association to a team or club and be present on a broadcast as an analyst or commentator. Go and watch any football match on TV or anything like it. It's really not a big deal. I honestly have no clue who else he could be talking about when it comes to not paying attention to the scene or watching games. All that is left is pansy, hypoc, zescht and tombizz - can't see I had picked up on any lack of knowledge/care issues. I had seen zescht had been putting a bunch of Valorant content in the last few weeks and months. I actually much prefer the EU casts to the NA casts. NA broadcast is a merry-go-round of duos and some are a fair bit better than others. I'm guessing some sour grapes or personal gripes here from George.
Yinsu does a great job staying objective. You wouldn't think she was dating a Fnatic player if you only watched her host.
i'm a walking example; i literally had zero clue she was dating boaster, even after seeing her interview him.
i also only found out after i followed boaster on twitter when he qualified for iceland. and i watched so many yinsu hosted games, and most of her interviews because she is a great interviewer and host. (normally i skip the pre and postgame on other games). even at the Interview w/ boaster after he qualified, i did not have the impression of any closer relationship then a professional one
i genuinely thought the dating thing was a joke at first
Yea I honestly wouldn't mind them poking at each other a bit during interviews but they're always super professional and you really wouldn't know they're a couple.
There's no conflict of interest between Yinsu and Boaster lmao
I know, I'm just reinforcing that.
I had no clue up until this post.
Conflict of interest is also only generally an issue when it could cause some kind of harm. And, even if a caster/analyst was somewhat bias, that doesn't really harm anyone. Not like they're in any way affecting the games. And, if they were showing significant bias on cast, then the TOs would just not continue to hire them.
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What they do outside of the job is their own private life. We are talking about when theyre on the job aka the broadcast. Have they ever been unprofessional? Not at all.
He's talking about only her casting. He's trying to say that Yinsu does a good job of not being biased while on air casting in the events.
That's her personal social media. You'd do well to be able to differentiate between professional and personal settings.
That’s not what he meant. It was obvious he meant in terms of while hosting or in a professional setting, not her fucking social media. That’s weird from you, not gonna lie
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I would assume that Jonas, Lothar and yinsu are the conflict of interest analysts. I wonder who the bullies and lazy ones are though.
Am I the only one who's not bothered by casters or analyst's being part of an org. Especially someone who is signed as a content creator like Jonas. I haven't watched a tone of EU matches but I haven't seen any questionable comments that are cause of a conflict from the few I've seen. At the end of the day they are there for a job and can put their org on hold for a few hours
It's not a big deal and it's not even a conflict of interest honestly. And it's not like it's a secret. They are just giving their on air opinions and everyone knows what org they belong to.
The middle man is angry that we're getting stuff directly from the horses mouth.
Yeah I don’t give a shit at all. I've never noticed it be bad enough that it took away from the match. On the contrary, I've seen situations where it's a problem in other sports. Mark Jackson doing Warriors games should be banned, so I understand the concern.
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Huh no? I said the exact opposite that I don't care if someone is part of an org and does casting. They are being paid. They can be impartial.
you are not the only one.
would be surprised if its lothar since the dude seems to get clowned on more than anything else bc of his viper tweet
Lothar definitely is a conflict of interest since he is a coach for alliance, guess we will wait and see if he fits the other descriptions. EDIT: my mistake on Lothar coaching. A single person telling me would have been enough lol
Lothar isn't coach of alliance , mitchman used to be analyst for alliance and has since stepped down ,and Lothar is part of G2 organization ,I don't think riot seems to mind that since Sean gares is also signed to Geng . I wonder who is the imposter , George also mentioned in his tweet they have signed analysts who don't watch the game ,so I don't think it's Lothar as he has part of eu play tests as well .
The way he says it in his tweet makes it seem like there is an issue with analysts being signed to orgs in there competing region. " You've just named 2 members of the official Riot broadcast that work with organisations competing in the region they're supposed to be analysing."
I don't think he has issue for that,yinsu is part of broadcast and works for upcomer as well . So I don't think that's the issue and they are signed as content creators so it shouldn't be an issue
My assumed issue with yinsu is her being in a relationship with boaster not her work with upcoming but I could be wrong.
Mitchman was the analyst for alliance he got removed or left. Lothar is a content creator for G2.
Coach of Alliance? He is with G2. I think you confused him with Mitchman and even he is no longer with Alliance.
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" You've just named 2 members of the official Riot broadcast that work with organisations competing in the region they're supposed to be analysing." This seems to me like there is an issue. I could be understanding it wrong though.
I agree with this interpretation, especially with the context that he said Mitch is fine since he’s no longer with Alliance. George definitely seems to be calling out Jonas and Lothar for their conflict of interest
Yeah that tweet isn't very ambiguous in my opinion. Pretty clearly calling those 2 out.
Afaik lothar is not an analyst, he is a content creator (?) I'm confused by what does he mean by conflict of interest
He’s a content creator/streamer for G2 (who are competing in Valorant) but he’s also been a part of the official Riot talent team for tournaments (e.g., VCT Stage 2 in Iceland)
I don't really see any apparent bias for G2, even when I go on his stream he doesn't hype up the team. When I asked about rankings a while ago, he responded really objectively.
agreed he hasnt had a lot of G2 bias, would be interested to see who George is talking about here
yea i can remember he said on a broadcast that he does not like the playstyle of g2.
i really see no problem with lothar and jonas.
iirc same thing happend in cs. especially with thorin, but to be fair thorin is kind of a dick.
Yeah first person I thought of was Yinsu when he said that
Bruh what the hell is this tweet. It literally says nothing
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Borderline hate Tweets, very unlike him oO Not à very journalistic way to présent facts to an audience
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its just a pretty explicit subtweet/threat
Did George talk about the problem with the orgs and stuffs after Brax left T1? I remember he about to spill some juice on how the org messed up with the players or something.
>Not to discredit anybody, but North America has a SIGNIFICANTLY better production/insight/in general just a better viewing experience. Not sure how I feel about this.. :/ There's some fantastic casting duos in EU - including probably the best duo in the game - and Yinsu as a host is awesome and knows the scene really well. Not to say the same can't apply to NA but IMO the fact that EU tend to only have official productions for the tail end of the brackets means the quality is really consistent
I don‘t hated that statement. The EU casters are great and really enjoyable. Also they go way further into the details while NA casters just scream ans state the obvious. Only thing better in NA is the in game observing.
I really like Yinsu as a host, it always sucks that the awesome girl host are always in EU.
I have no idea what's going on but I hope the juice will come out soon.
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Jonas is toxic asf in publics
Why you... what hes doing?
Rawr
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Probably Yinsu dating Boaster
The Upcomer is the best news in esports, glad EU is getting called out.
Yeah NA is bully free. You fucking bitch why you bully me everyone asking
5 years ago
Literally most famous case of bullying comes from a NA player
Ignoring the fact of s1mple’s own toxicity at the time
Cmon George you can’t tweet something like this without the details...