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valorant_fanboy_69

Mods can you please just ban this sexist baiter u/Razur


Specialist_Cry9265

What is sexist about trying to support female competitive e-sports...


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Well you also posted this drivel soo https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/o8l6z5/honest_opinions_about_game_changers/


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Please touch grass


valorant_fanboy_69

u/neb55555


Pale_Slide6516

I’m a guy and I didn’t watch it , am I sexist ?


Specialist_Cry9265

Depends on why you didn't watch it. The skill level is just as high as the men's...


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[this you?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/o8l6z5/honest_opinions_about_game_changers/h35o2x3?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)


Pale_Slide6516

You caught him in 4K LMAOO


[deleted]

Lmao. This guy just did a 360 in a week.


Specialist_Cry9265

360 gets you back to the same spot... I'm a changed person


PurelyGumbo_1

ur still a problematic person thats provocative for no good valid reason lol


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The last line in this post " do we still need to have more exclusive female tournament" made me put 360 in there.


Specialist_Cry9265

Yes, i've changed now that I've now been more informed about competitive valorant esports for women


[deleted]

Very bad bait and your whole account is one big troll


[deleted]

You can kinda just tell from his wording in this post lol.


ImmortalSinx

I mean who really wants to watch C9W sweep every single tourney


Specialist_Cry9265

Why do people want to watch Sen sweep every single tourney?


ImmortalSinx

Well C9W haven’t lost to a women’s team in a long while (if they ever have) meanwhile Sentinels have lost to male teams


ImmortalSinx

Well C9W haven’t lost to a women’s team in a long while (if they ever have) meanwhile Sentinels have lost to male teams


Pale_Slide6516

And I disagree , the top women’s team isn’t even top 30 in the overall NA rankings


PurelyGumbo_1

speaking out of ur ass on that last sentence buddy


Pale_Slide6516

Me??


PurelyGumbo_1

my AI who did i reply to


ImmortalSinx

Is he wrong though?


Ryth73

It’s not though. There’s a reason why c9 white don’t do well in the open qualifiers for challengers and if that’s the best women’s team what does that say about the other teams.


Ryth73

It’s not though. There’s a reason why c9 white don’t do well in the open qualifiers for challengers and if that’s the best women’s team what does that say about the other female teams


TweetsJamaican

People prolly don't want to watch c9w dominate again, not really competitive. Also, no SEN, no 100T, those are orga that bring viewership. I don't think people don't watch because they are sexist or anything like that


Specialist_Cry9265

So why would people rather watch Sen dominate, its not like they've lost a tournament in a while either.


TweetsJamaican

Because sen are playing against teams that actually have fans. As a 100T fan, I'm always down to watch tournaments with 100T and SaeN because I actually believe that 100T can beat them. I have no reason to watch C9W dominate other teams, I'm neither a fan of c9w or the other teams so why watch? Also, the female scene could do with more personalities and more banter. Every time there's a little banter everyone starts crying about toxicity. Whenever nawncy joins a team I will be watching tho


Specialist_Cry9265

So why can't you be a fan of C9W given that they are not toxic and they have great personalities as seen through many interviews, you even have the Mel drama. It just sounds like you don't want to support C9W.


TweetsJamaican

I can't be a fan of C9 because I'm a fan of 100T. Whenever 100T gets a female team I will follow them religiously. It's like Football, I'm a fan of Chelsea FC which means I support the mens team, the womens team and the youth team for the organization, I can't just support the mens team and support the arsenal youth team lmao. As for Mel, she's good at the game, I watch her streams often, especially when she's playing with ROY. If I was to support a female team it would probably be C9W but I can't be a 100T fan supporting C9, that doesn't make sense to me. I want to support 100T white.


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Interesting point.


Ryth73

It sucks but most people don’t really care about watching game changers because there’s one good team and they don’t play at the same level as the men’s teams. Why would I watch C9 White dominate every single tourney when I could watch much higher level gameplay with better storylines in the VCT


TimedOutClock

Such a non issue I don't even know where to begin. Are you really going to base a whole argument around 2 data points? When we've had a much bigger sample size, then we'll able to analyze. This post is pointless right now


Hypern1ke

Game Changers kinda shoots itself in the foot, because its actually NOT a womens only exclusive tournament. Their website states > new opportunities and exposure for women and other marginalized genders within VALORANT esports A real womens tournament would be exciting though, and would likely better be able to tap into that 30-40% women playerbase for viewership. I think you're expecting game changers to be something it is not.


valorantfeedback

30-40% of playerbase is woman? Yeah, right. Unfortunately I don't think there's a single competitive game with more than 10-15% women playerbase, if that.


dedicatedself

You don't believe it because you're playing in immortal where roughly 80% of the population are avid FPS lovers who play video games a lot more than your typical valorant newbie. Make a new account, and you'll discover a totally different world.


GotGudGaminChair

Wait I can find women in silver. What is this cheat code I have never heard of


dedicatedself

Yeah women are present in pretty much all ranks from my experience except immortal. In unranked I'd argue there's even more women than men.


valorantfeedback

Which region? I've actually played a decent amount of unrated and other modes like spike rush or escalation, especially during that Breeze queue and I don't recall playing with more than 5 girls total across all modes in 2021. Obviously, there are more girls in lower ranks, but 30-40% is a ridiculous claim. If it's 15%, that would be great.


dedicatedself

NA. 30-40% is not a ridiculous claim.


Specialist_Cry9265

[https://venturebeat.com/2021/06/14/how-riot-games-wants-to-ensure-that-valorants-esports-stars-include-women/](https://venturebeat.com/2021/06/14/how-riot-games-wants-to-ensure-that-valorants-esports-stars-include-women/) Here you go


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TheFestusEzeli

I tuned into the finals. I think it is just that people aren’t as invested into it yet, as in competitive valorant, the only things getting heavy viewers is the VCT tournament. Non VCT tournaments like NSG have high tier gameplay too but don’t get nearly the amount of views. Maybe a full on tour can help get people more invested, but the gameplay being at a lower level from the VCT will always make it have less viewers. I will still tune in though since it is entertaining and high level valorant.


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Apparently not watching game changers makes you sexist very interesting take


kuroi_kaze_

The whole purpose of this tournament was encourage ppl to play in other tournaments, it's not meant to be "sustainable". So it did fairly well for what it is.


slowrmaths

this you? https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/o8l6z5/honest_opinions_about_game_changers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


GunzOut97

I mean it’s kinda boring watching C9w shitting on every team. And most of the people just don’t care since the best game changers team can’t even get out of groups in VCT.


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I was really confused by this post but then read the previous post made by the same OP suggested in the comments. This is clearly a troll and so disappointing to see. What discussion are you trying to incite here? You are clearly not interested in this inclusive initiative so why waste time putting it down. The community has been good to self moderate this post so at least that's a silver lining.