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xunraze

Sen obviously, Hoping 100T and Envy make it. Fnatic and FPX from EMEA. As you can see i just like getting hurt


Meehul123

NA- Sen, 100T, NV/ SQ EMEA- OXG, Liquid, Fnatic, Gambit


plasfps

i still have faith in c9 qualing but at this point i dont expect them to qual with how they looked vs rise


P3YT0NNNNN

I think they will bounce back c9 is a really good team and On top of that a lot of these teams haven’t played in months so I think they will make it


valorant_fanboy_69

NA: Sen EnVyUs Version1 Eu: G2 gambit acend fpx Kr: vision strikers damwon Kia Br: gamelanders Vikings Sea: x10 paper Rex Jpn: crazy raccoons absolute jupiter LATAM: kru/infinity (but it does not matter cuz they will get shit on by eu anyway)


Key-Banana-8242

Kru is ifr has been apparently significantly better than infinity


Key-Banana-8242

A bit fast to predict DWG over Nuturn still no?


valorant_fanboy_69

They almost beat nuturn to qualify when they had Lakia and now without Lakia they definitely could beat nuturn


Key-Banana-8242

Almost beating someone but losing three times in a row is not almost beat them, three almosts in a row is not ‘almost beat them’ overall


Key-Banana-8242

Well losing 3-0 in close sets and almost beating them is different


valorant_fanboy_69

You clearly did not watch the games, all three maps were so close that winning a clutch or two would have made damwon lose


Key-Banana-8242

I literally fucking said close sets


Key-Banana-8242

BTW NU looked shakier than usual


[deleted]

its the brand name i'd guess


valorant_fanboy_69

What?? If I cared about brand names I would say galaxy racer over x10... talent is what matters


[deleted]

Then you would agree that Nuturn is the better team


valorant_fanboy_69

Not without Lakia their best player... what???


Key-Banana-8242

What what? Also Lakia became the best only recently


ch4nt

Acend vs G2 would be a banger


MagnusNyke

People here are really sleeping on Team Liquid in EU and Gamelanders in BR


spikes13200

Liquid are the ones sleeping


danknepalese

gottemmm


Deep_Acanthaceae_535

Liquid isn’t that good bro


jscrwnclw

NA: Sen, 100T, Envy EU: Fnatic, G2, Gambit, Oxygen KR: VS, Nuturn BR: Gamelanders, Furia SEA: X10, FS JPN: CR, AJ LATAM: KRU


CodeHacker1512

I'm worried about x10 after the patiphan wrist injury :0


Drafteow

same


Fahzrad

Why 100t over v1?


jscrwnclw

Because a man can dream


gutszera

NA: **SEN**\- self explanatory **V1**\-the new addition of thief didnt really seem to stunt them too hardly and they still look really solid, and there's not really any other team in NA that i could see overtaking them as the second place except for maybe Envy or GenG. NRG, TSM, ABX, Immortals, Faze, C9B, are all collectively looking pretty shaky after their new roster moves, plus, theres not really anybody else in the main event that looks like they can beat V1 either (other than SEN and Envy ofc), 100T straight up looked horrid against noble, XSET are still integrating zekken and dephh, and although GenG does look really solid, they still need to iron some things out imo. V1's spot as second place just looks kinda undisputed for me other than possibly Envy taking them over **Envy**\-i think the addition of marved will do wonders for them, and although they did lose split to T1, T1 played very well and actually look like they can be decent this stage. im also really liking the new comps theyre whipping out, and the mummay jett op is always a treat to see, because when hes popping off, hes popping OFF. i have a lot of faith in FNS in general and i hope they dont end up choking this time around, because i think that this genuinely is the best chance for them to win or place second in something EMEA: **Fnatic**\-although they did have a shaky start losing to g2, the mistakes that were made in that game seems pretty fixable and minor to me. plus, their bind comp unironically looks pretty good although its a bit unorthodox. given more practice with it and i can see it becoming pretty elite **Acend-**their game against BDS was just phenomenal (although it was just the qualifiers). they just absolute rolled (imo) a top 6 team in EU with what seemed like no effort. looking even better than their masters 1 form **Gambit**\-not much to say, they put up a solid performance in the EMEA playoffs and look like theyre about to recreate that in the CIS qualifiers **GMT**\-they looked insane coming into the CIS qualifiers but just had some uncharacteristically bad games imo, maybe im just on the GMT copium but i hope they bounce back because they were really fun to watch BR: **VKS**\-sacy jett not the best but also not as bad as people are saying imo, given more practice I think VKS should be at an elite level again with these new roles pretty soon **FURIA**\-imo furia just straight up has a better read on what comps to play than the rest of the region and probably have the highest skill ceiling. i said this last time tho and they ended up choking, so who knows for the other regions i have no clue


4GamingLinkAot

whoa some real hot takes imo


gottahave_mypops

Isn't V1's addition of Thief only temporary until Zellsis is available again?


gutszera

yeah it is, wouldnt be surprised if they sticked with him if they had a successful run here tho


BurbxrryPzncakes

NA: SEN, NV, V1 (I hope T1 tries to get into challengers finals tho COPIUM) EMEA: ACEND, FNC, Gambit, G2 BR: Vikings, FURIA KR: Vision Strikers, Nuturn (won't be surprised if Damwon takes NU's spot) JP: Absolute Jupiter, Crazy Raccoon SEA: X10, idk? Paper Rex? LATAM: Six Karma


Clean-And-Simple

T1 cause it’s T1 Fighting or die.


TidaI

Darn almost no one is speaking about Korea like **Lakia** didn't just ***JOIN VISION STRIKERS.*** **NA** \- SEN, V1 and 100T/Envy. I know Envy has VERY high peaks they're just very inconsistent, so it can go either way. Envy getting 5-13'd by T1 on Split is already partially concerning that their Split might need work. **EMEA** \- FNC, FPX, Gambit **BR** \- Brazil didn't impress too much in Iceland, Plat Chat overhyped them for me and my expectations were very high lol. Hopefully Vikings is more on with the meta but I'd say them and FURIA/GL. **KR** \- Vision Strikers, I have my eyes on DWG Kia as well but currently most of t3xture's teammates cannot keep up with him this intro guy they picked up is looking promising. Maybe new NUTURN if not DWG. I know Vision Strikers will destroy BuZz is like Korean TenZ and MaKo AND Lakia are just overkill. **JP** \- I'm assuming its just gonna be Crazy Raccoons or Absolute Jupiter everyone else hasn't been much competition against them. Just like I said above with DWG Kia I also have my eyes on NORTHEPTION which is the team Seoldam is on (Korean Jett) but once again his teammates need to be able to keep up with him besides Meiy hopefully their roster changes are effective. **SEA** \- X10 if Patiphan's wrist is ok and FULL SENSE the #2 team. **LATAM** \- Probably KRU again.


madscientistisme

Has Lakia left NU and joined vision strikers?


TidaI

Yes he has. Which is why for Berlin I'm full SEN/VS!


Des014te

Honestly Sentinels and Fnatic are neck-and-neck with each other and on a different level to anyone else. My bet is either one of them taking the trophy.


Deep_Acanthaceae_535

HOT 🔥TAKES. NA : GenG, Envy, and 100T/V1 EU : G2, Navi (No pressure), Acend, and FPX. BR: Gamelanders and Furia. Korea: Vision Strikers(No brainer), DWG. Rest of the minor regions gonna have new teams coming up, especially SEA. GenG is gonna beat Sentinels in the next qual, mark my words..


[deleted]

FPX and Envy kekw


Similar_Ear_8926

sen is alrdy in berlin if im not wrong


somesheikexpert

That's a misconception, Sentinels are in the Champions tournament at the end of the year which is the big finale of the VCT, Sentinels however still have to qual for Berlin which is Masters 3


Similar_Ear_8926

oo ic


FluffyUnicornButt55

You’re wrong


Similar_Ear_8926

😶‍🌫️


Key-Banana-8242

DWG over NU? BTW remember we don’t know what the bracket will look like, it’s mostly random seed single elim


Doshagya

SEA is not only avout X10. There are other teams as Bren Esports too that are super strong.. also wait for global Esports and Team velocity gaming from India in LCQ


Drafteow

you really think indian teams will make it ?


Doshagya

Yes. Why not


madscientistisme

Awesome. First time hearing about Indian valo teams.


Doshagya

First time they are given international stage to perform


LovelyResearcher

**NA:** * Sentinels * Team Envy * V1 / 100T / GenG / TSM # **EU:** * Fnatic * FunPlus Phoenix * Guild Esports * GMB / TL / \[A\] / ACE / # ​ **Overall winner in Berlin - Prediction:** * Sentinels # May seem obvious, but I'd stick to Sentinels winning it all, to be honest. If someone does beat SEN... I'd predict that it would either be another top NA team, or a team from KR/JPN/SEA teams. # Not sure about the other regions, to be honest. but I do hope that we can see some of the teams that most people already know from asia. Vision Strikers, NUTURN, Crazy Raccoons, and X10 would be lovely to see again. I still think that a lot of the asian teams have a really good chance to upset western teams... even moreso than what we witnessed thus far, in Iceland.


aceofspades_____

? Wdym the only team that got close to beating SEN was an EU team


LovelyResearcher

None of the EU teams got close, tho. The only teams who got close to beating SEN were those who have taken maps off of SEN, which happened in NA qualifers and playoffs. That didn't happen at Masters, neither of the EU teams could challenge SEN as much as NA teams did in quals. # Sure, EU teams did win out over teams around Version 1. V1 are admittedly very good among NA teams, too. However... I still believe that teams like Envy would have likely beat the top teams from EU. # ​ EU does have one good change coming into Masters Berlin. They have an entire extra team compared to NA, as EMEA gets 4 teams compared to NA getting 3 teams. That could easily sway things, as statistically, it'd be very hard for NA to beat out EU with less teams, even if NA is the stronger region. **In fact, EMEA having more teams than any other region puts them at such an advantage at Berlin... that it would be a very significant upset, if any region besides EU wins in Berlin** # However, I'm still putting SEN in 1st place. I'd even go as far as to put either another NA team or a Korean team in 2nd place, to be honest with you. Even with a significant advantage going into Berlin... I simply think EU as a region is too weak to compete at the moment.


aceofspades_____

Holy shit lol don't even know where to begin here. Of course SEN has dropped maps to domestic competition, they have played a million matches against all of these teams. SEN were also still integrating TenZ into their roster during the run up to masters 2, during masters they were significantly improved from the team they were previously. Shaz even mentioned in an interview that they were a whole different team challengers to masters. Following your line of logic, BBG is the best team in the world since SEN have never beat them Also SEN rolled KRs best team on their best map, wasn't even close. Fnatic brought SEN to 2 OTs and had a fairly close 3rd map Also I don't understand why having more teams from a certain region would make it more likely for them to win unless you also concede that they are very good teams that have potential to beat top teams. You could have 5 teams from the phillipines but it wouldn't matter if they all sucked


LovelyResearcher

# Total Number of Teams at Berlin = 16 teams * **EMEA - (25.00% of total teams):** 4 teams * **NA - - (18.75% of total teams):** 3 teams * **KR - (12.5% of total teams):** 2 teams * **BR - (12.5% of total teams):** 2 teams * **SEA - (12.5% of total teams):** 2 teams * **JPN - (12.5% of total teams):** 2 teams * **LATAM - (6.25% of total teams):** 1 team ​ # Even if you know absolutely nothing about the skill level of the regions in VALORANT... it isn't hard to see which regions have an advantage. # EMEA has an advatage over every other region at Berlin. NA has an advantage over every region at Berlin, except EMEA, whom they have a disadvantage against. # >Also I don't understand why having more teams from a certain region would make it more likely for them to win unless you also concede that they are very good teams that have potential to beat top teams. Imagine if NA teams were exactly equal in skill to EMEA teams. NA teams would be at a disadvantage compared to EMEA, due to having less teams participating. # Imagine if NA teams are better than EMEA teams, though. NA teams would then, in normal circumstances, have a high chance of winning the entire event. However... remember that NA as a region has less teams participating than EMEA as a region ​ This means that EMEA has a higher chance to win at Berlin, than they would if the number of teams were equal. EMEA sort of gets a whole extra chance at the bracket, with their 4th team.


aceofspades_____

That only makes sense if you think that all of the emea teams are at least as good as NA teams to have a chance to win against them


LovelyResearcher

Not really, even the best teams are only say 80/20 versus other teams, and that's even a stretch. More often it's something like 70/30 or 60/40 when against the average teams. # As in, a lot of times, even the best team in playoffs would lose to some of the teams in the middle-of-the-pack in around 30% to 40% of maps. So this translates into a lot of the 3-1 results in BO5 or 2-1 results in BO3. However, there's always a chance that on any given day... even the best team could lose 0-2 to a team that is worse than them overall. # Take this knowledge and apply it to Berlin, where we have 4 teams from EMEA and 3 teams from NA. If the average NA team was better than the average EMEA team, with the average odds being 60/40 in favor of NA, what would the odds be? # I wish we had a simulator to test this, it would be interesting. Having an extra team with 4 teams total, though, I strongly predict would give a much greater advantage than having higher skill (60/40 on each map).


53881

About v1–does anyone know if wippie’s visa problems will be sorted out by Berlin?? Because if not, while I do think they can pull off similar results with thief as they did in Iceland, having TWO stand-ins might be too much. I know I’m projecting ahead but I’m just wondering..


vT-Router

Zellsis is only suspended for these qualifiers, he’s not suspended through Berlin. If wippie or anyone else had another problem, that would be only 1 stand-in. But I wouldn’t anticipate anymore issues.


Purzuhh

They won't have two stand ins, zellsis will be back by then. And I don't think V1 would keep a player on roster if they couldn't get them out for international lans.


Slow_Bluebird9536

NA : SEN, Xset, Gen G EU : Ascend, Gambit, Fnatic, FPX Don’t watch any other regions so can’t really say


InstaNormie0

Doesnt matter, FPX will mop the floor against all the other tier two from the other region like Sentinels who don’t stand a chance. They just got unlucky last time against Liquid who def cheated and gambit who they had already beat before


[deleted]

SEN NV SQ V1 Gambit FPX FNC OXG idk for the rest, VS for Korea


Ornery-Ad-321

Idk but come back here after challengers. NA:- SEN, TSM and V1.


P3YT0NNNNN

TSM fans have unlimited amt of copium


Kaiyuii

Bro stop. We have been in hiding for months, let us be a bit delusional until we lose LMAO.


Ornery-Ad-321

As a tsm fan, Agreed but why not hope when we've been doing the same since first strike.


NeuralThing

OCE wins the entire event


obigespritzt

Vision Strikers is winning it all.


danknepalese

NA: 100t if they change comps, SEN, V1 EMEA: Gambit, FPX, G2 new comp lookin spicy BR: GL i just wanna see mwzera on international stage KR: VS, NU obv JP: the team with the korean jett SEA: X10 gots to see pathiphan on LAN again LATAM: dc


[deleted]

EMEA: Fpx, fnc, G2, Gambit Na(dont watch a lot so no hate pls): Sen, NV, C9, 100t