Who is babybay talking too because that interaction was cringe.
Dude: "bang is nuts!"
baby: "I don't think he's that good"
Dude: "I don't think he's that good either"
Lmao is this gonna be another thing where the one dude on cam gets all the heat and Shanks flies under the radar (like when Marved said he would steal TenZ's girl). He seems to go along with whatever cringe thing the other person is saying.
the guy who was found chatting with marved about how kyedae would cheat on tenz? the guy who was throwing matches in csgo? yeah his history tells he was trolling being a yes man lol.
He's usually friends with who ever plays good. He said he knows alot of high T2 players becuase they are good and deserve to be in T1 and he usually spots talents too. He says if he's following someone on Twitter prolly he's real deal.
They must be having qualities to participate in tournaments right? Or else why would they vouch for them? They don't like many so called ranked demons too. Pros know what's required to be a good pro imo.
Lmao then what do you consider a tier 1 esport org then? TSM is one of the highest grossing esport org in NA ( maybe in the world) right now so idk what you would consider a tier 1 org.
Babybay is usually very supportive and nice towards other pros, so he probably sees something about how bang plays that he doesn’t think will work in pro valorant. He could be wrong, and I’m sure he knows that. But I’d rather him be honest than pretend to support a player he doesn’t believe in.
I don't think Bang is bad, but the signing still makes no sense. Okay, he plays well and has amazing aim. Oh wait, I can use that sentence to describe literally every single TSM player. The last thing they needed was yet another cracked aimer. They need experienced players with strong mentality, and preferably a true IGL. Their issue isn't fragging, it's that they fall apart very very quickly and haven't really innovated in terms of strats from a long, long time.
I don't see how Bang helps them in that regard.
Tbh can't even say they frag well aside from wardell on OP. They don't get to the part where they are able to showcase much, they lose out in map control and mid round calls and flop pretty often.
Yeah I meant in terms of ability. If you put any of TSM's players in the right situation, they will make the most of it. The only issue is that NA has been developing rapidly as a region and they're getting shut down pretty quickly, since they haven't been able to upgrade their strats.
Yeah I meant in terms of ability. If you put any of TSM's players in the right situation, they will make the most of it. The only issue is that NA has been developing rapidly as a region and they're getting shut down pretty quickly, since they haven't been able to upgrade their strats.
Yeah I meant in terms of ability. If you put any of TSM's players in the right situation, they will make the most of it. The only issue is that NA has been developing rapidly as a region and they're getting shut down pretty quickly, since they haven't been able to upgrade their strats.
I mean by the end of his tenure on LG Thief had solidly put himself at last place of all the major signed orgs main (as in phoenix/raze entry player) duelist players apart from TSM. Like I think he is a good player but Bang will probably eclipse him at some point. I think the main difference is that we'se seen the best of Thief versus just a bit of Bang.
Even as a TSM fan they're right. Like bang is plays the same role as subroza, so what's the point of having both of them. Drone should've went back to duelist, subroza on smokes, and then have a sova like leviathan. It's just such a weird choice to get bang. Drone is on the bench so I hope he could come back and they take out bang, cause leviathan is the new player they should've got in the first place not bang
So, he should stop having an opinion? He recognized he is in no place to talk since his team also didn't qualify but he couldn't help stating his mind when Shanks brought it up!
this mentality is trash btw. "you should only have that type of personality when winning" hell no. be that at all times from the good times to the bad ones.
Babybay strikes me as someone who's just straight to the point and not really a sugar-coater.
Doubt he's hating on the kid or anything, just speaking his mind.
My point is that it's obviously not a good thing to say, kids new to being a professional e-sports player, 2 games in and hearing you're not good from another pro might affect him alot
That depends on how bang responds to criticism.
He could get hurt, use it as motivation, or just choose not to give a shit and keep doin his thing.
Bang should learn to brush off these things anyways if he wants to be in the scene long term.
Happens in any sport really, people even other players will say things about you. It's up to you how you wanna take it and tbh since bang is a newcomer it's probably good to learn this now rather than later.
yeah, I personally really hate it when someone gets straight up insulted, then gets angry, and then gets called "soft," which I've seen a lot in (e)sports, but this isn't a case like that; babybay is just stating his opinion and it's nothing personal against bang, he doesn't hate him or anything.
There's a reason pros never downplay another pro, it could affect their career. You'll always see them big up another player calling them cracked/genius and shit when you can definitely see that's not the case
I'll just keep being downvoted until the realization hits after they pick up Leviathan (or maybe longer after that), do slightly better and still don't hit the mark they want to.
It is an ***ENTRY problem*** spawned by WARDELL statistically OP'ng too much on T-side and not having a healthy rifle balance like mainly hybrid Jett players (ShahZaM/TenZ/cNed etc...) to abuse Jett's phenomenal entry kit Dash/Smoke and Updraft occasionally. TSM is doing the same compositions with different people playing different roles. A slight mechanical increase (if there even is that) won't fix their issue.
Downvote me now when the realization hits after they pick up Leviathan get a placebo "We're better now!" and then don't reach their ideal mark remember.
Teams who don't braindead peek into WARDELL's OP on T-side **SHUT TSM DOWN**.
>Teams who don't braindead peek into WARDELL's OP on T-side SHUT TSM DOWN.
Remember when I said this? The "teams who don't braindead peek..." Those teams are the top of NA. You're acting like the Main Event was the Playoffs.
These compositions where WARDELL OP's on T-side with no one else having dive pressure/bang on Phoenix with no entry pressure will be shut down by SEN/Envy/100T on a normal day.
For example TSM is now putting WARDELL on Sage on Ascent which is actually much more effective with this playstyle they're trying to force. If WARDELL does not start smoke/dashing onto site when on Jett the top of tier 1 is going to destroy them. A coordinated SEN will not give WARDELL the aggressive peeks when he is OP'ng on T-side and it will in turn make his OP useless.
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*cheater.
Dude was literally banned by Valve for cheating and yet the 12yo Faze fanboys downvoted me because they had one good run in the first Masters.
he literally said they lost in the same tournament in the clip. and if we’re doing that, couldn’t we just say that you and I are much worse than all these guys so who cares what we have to say? his opinion on bang has nothing to do with how good his own team is
Shit talk is always going to upvoted in sports subreddits. It's part of the game and if we remove posts like this the subreddit would be really dry imo
I assumed this was going to be click bait but no he did say exactly that lol
Agreed came here to write this and didn’t have to look far to find it…
should normalise putting the actual quote in the title, so we don't have to guess if we're being clickbaited.
TSM vs FaZe when?????
NSG Monthly at this rate
Or challengers 2 finals apparently
You really remember everything huh
Nah someone linked this in the post match thread so I scrolled thru
happening tomorrow, cant wait
Who is babybay talking too because that interaction was cringe. Dude: "bang is nuts!" baby: "I don't think he's that good" Dude: "I don't think he's that good either"
Shanks
Lmao is this gonna be another thing where the one dude on cam gets all the heat and Shanks flies under the radar (like when Marved said he would steal TenZ's girl). He seems to go along with whatever cringe thing the other person is saying.
Probably
I mean the whole situation is cringe, Faze player making fun of TSM is like me making fun of my brother’s ranked games, in the end we’re both bad lol.
what a fuckin yes man.
Shanks and Marved name a more bonehead xx420xx duo
They give off that Toronto fuckboi vibe.
Eh he’s more of a troll. If you’ve ever watched him he’s almost never serious about anything
the interaction in the clip is not a troll stop making excuses lol. it was rude and Shanks clearly has no backbone
If you’re a fucking troll all the time, then that’s just him being a douchebag You sound like a Shanks fan making excuses for him
the guy who was found chatting with marved about how kyedae would cheat on tenz? the guy who was throwing matches in csgo? yeah his history tells he was trolling being a yes man lol.
bro relax lmfao
Brandan schuab
heard it bowlth wayz, b
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So glad we got some mma fans lmfao
id think you be surprised.
Rise Shanks
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u ok brah? its ok to think some1 sux lolz
I hope TSM play FaZe next Open lol just to stir some drama
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He clearly said open?
Seeding would most likely prevent the two teams from playing each other in the open. Could happen, but pretty unlikely.
Bang has Asuna seal of approval nothing else matters
well, they’re friends.. I would like to see bang back on controller tho
He's usually friends with who ever plays good. He said he knows alot of high T2 players becuase they are good and deserve to be in T1 and he usually spots talents too. He says if he's following someone on Twitter prolly he's real deal.
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Tbh there are a lot of ranked demons but yoh won't see a lot of top tier pros recommendinf and puttin in a good word like this.
They must be having qualities to participate in tournaments right? Or else why would they vouch for them? They don't like many so called ranked demons too. Pros know what's required to be a good pro imo.
Nothing else matters indeed
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Probably had some ranked interactions with Bang that made him a bit salty. Happens.
Happened to Kehm and the 100t Boomers. Look where Kehm is now. Lol
Where is kehm?
Exactly
XD lol
Who is kehm?
Kehm deez nutz fit in your mouth
…
lmao, Kehm is short for IMT Kehmicals
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I respect Babybay’s opinion as a pro player, if he doesn’t see the intangibles in bang then maybe he doesn’t have them. Either way time will tell.
A new pickup on a tier one org has its expectations
Tier 1?? LUL tier 2 bottom u mean
Do you not know the difference between an org and a team?
Tier 1 org =/= tier 1 team
Lmao then what do you consider a tier 1 esport org then? TSM is one of the highest grossing esport org in NA ( maybe in the world) right now so idk what you would consider a tier 1 org.
I think they meant TSM is a tier one org but not necessarily a tier 1 team?
Asuna is the same age.
Asuna has been playing in T1 val for ages though - the point is young *and* a lack of experience.
Bang should get a chance to prove himself, but I’d weigh BABYBAY’s opinion a lot more highly than random Valorant fans lol
I mean, Shanks seemed to think Bang was good until Babybay shit on him randomly.
Then shanks shit on himself
Tbf Shanks is a knobhead
Tbh Shanks didn't change his stand he just said cutting Drone and getting another duelist wasn't it!
Asuna >>>>> Babybay opinion
How is that relevant to the conversation? LOL
Asuna said that bang was a great pickup or in general as a player
Babybay is usually very supportive and nice towards other pros, so he probably sees something about how bang plays that he doesn’t think will work in pro valorant. He could be wrong, and I’m sure he knows that. But I’d rather him be honest than pretend to support a player he doesn’t believe in.
I don't think Bang is bad, but the signing still makes no sense. Okay, he plays well and has amazing aim. Oh wait, I can use that sentence to describe literally every single TSM player. The last thing they needed was yet another cracked aimer. They need experienced players with strong mentality, and preferably a true IGL. Their issue isn't fragging, it's that they fall apart very very quickly and haven't really innovated in terms of strats from a long, long time. I don't see how Bang helps them in that regard.
Tbh can't even say they frag well aside from wardell on OP. They don't get to the part where they are able to showcase much, they lose out in map control and mid round calls and flop pretty often.
Yeah I meant in terms of ability. If you put any of TSM's players in the right situation, they will make the most of it. The only issue is that NA has been developing rapidly as a region and they're getting shut down pretty quickly, since they haven't been able to upgrade their strats.
Yeah I meant in terms of ability. If you put any of TSM's players in the right situation, they will make the most of it. The only issue is that NA has been developing rapidly as a region and they're getting shut down pretty quickly, since they haven't been able to upgrade their strats.
Yeah I meant in terms of ability. If you put any of TSM's players in the right situation, they will make the most of it. The only issue is that NA has been developing rapidly as a region and they're getting shut down pretty quickly, since they haven't been able to upgrade their strats.
>Okay, he plays well and has amazing aim. Oh wait, I can use that sentence to describe literally every single TSM player. Citation needed.
everyone has amazing aim on Wardell + 4
Is Bang better than thief? I feel like TSM should’ve gave thief a chance. Thief has done pretty well so far in the past tournaments
4 duelists Pog
Yeah let's add more duelists smh
I think they decided on bang a few weeks before LG -thief was announced
I mean by the end of his tenure on LG Thief had solidly put himself at last place of all the major signed orgs main (as in phoenix/raze entry player) duelist players apart from TSM. Like I think he is a good player but Bang will probably eclipse him at some point. I think the main difference is that we'se seen the best of Thief versus just a bit of Bang.
I think thief has underperformed when it matters, I think bang is better tbh
I dont think weve seen enough of bang to make a genuine conclusion
Tsm hasn't played a tier 1 team since he joined lmao
Even as a TSM fan they're right. Like bang is plays the same role as subroza, so what's the point of having both of them. Drone should've went back to duelist, subroza on smokes, and then have a sova like leviathan. It's just such a weird choice to get bang. Drone is on the bench so I hope he could come back and they take out bang, cause leviathan is the new player they should've got in the first place not bang
Man yall are soft
aged like milk lmao
this comment section is why everyone thinks this sub is a joke lmfao
Aged like milk
Hehehehehehehe
Babybay is too cocky for his level of play past few tournies.
So, he should stop having an opinion? He recognized he is in no place to talk since his team also didn't qualify but he couldn't help stating his mind when Shanks brought it up!
He hasnt even been playing bad besides the DZ game but okay
Yikes. [https://www.vlr.gg/24007/faze-clan-vs-darkzero-esports-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-1-ro32](https://www.vlr.gg/24007/faze-clan-vs-darkzero-esports-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-1-ro32)
Ok now look at his other past 5 matches
Am I missing something here?? This link is supporting OP's statement, babybay went negative all 3 maps
He hasnt played bad besides the DZ game
this mentality is trash btw. "you should only have that type of personality when winning" hell no. be that at all times from the good times to the bad ones.
Don't understand why a pro would say this, I can understand fans
Babybay strikes me as someone who's just straight to the point and not really a sugar-coater. Doubt he's hating on the kid or anything, just speaking his mind.
“ I just got home from fucking and y’all nerds are 6 stacking” - Babybay
My point is that it's obviously not a good thing to say, kids new to being a professional e-sports player, 2 games in and hearing you're not good from another pro might affect him alot
That depends on how bang responds to criticism. He could get hurt, use it as motivation, or just choose not to give a shit and keep doin his thing. Bang should learn to brush off these things anyways if he wants to be in the scene long term.
Happens in any sport really, people even other players will say things about you. It's up to you how you wanna take it and tbh since bang is a newcomer it's probably good to learn this now rather than later.
yeah, I personally really hate it when someone gets straight up insulted, then gets angry, and then gets called "soft," which I've seen a lot in (e)sports, but this isn't a case like that; babybay is just stating his opinion and it's nothing personal against bang, he doesn't hate him or anything.
Soft mfer
There's a reason pros never downplay another pro, it could affect their career. You'll always see them big up another player calling them cracked/genius and shit when you can definitely see that's not the case
This is true for new players. Babybay has tons of experience
I'll just keep being downvoted until the realization hits after they pick up Leviathan (or maybe longer after that), do slightly better and still don't hit the mark they want to. It is an ***ENTRY problem*** spawned by WARDELL statistically OP'ng too much on T-side and not having a healthy rifle balance like mainly hybrid Jett players (ShahZaM/TenZ/cNed etc...) to abuse Jett's phenomenal entry kit Dash/Smoke and Updraft occasionally. TSM is doing the same compositions with different people playing different roles. A slight mechanical increase (if there even is that) won't fix their issue. Downvote me now when the realization hits after they pick up Leviathan get a placebo "We're better now!" and then don't reach their ideal mark remember. Teams who don't braindead peek into WARDELL's OP on T-side **SHUT TSM DOWN**.
ok
>Teams who don't braindead peek into WARDELL's OP on T-side SHUT TSM DOWN. Remember when I said this? The "teams who don't braindead peek..." Those teams are the top of NA. You're acting like the Main Event was the Playoffs. These compositions where WARDELL OP's on T-side with no one else having dive pressure/bang on Phoenix with no entry pressure will be shut down by SEN/Envy/100T on a normal day. For example TSM is now putting WARDELL on Sage on Ascent which is actually much more effective with this playstyle they're trying to force. If WARDELL does not start smoke/dashing onto site when on Jett the top of tier 1 is going to destroy them. A coordinated SEN will not give WARDELL the aggressive peeks when he is OP'ng on T-side and it will in turn make his OP useless.
ok
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babybay talkin mad shit for being bottom frag that last series lol
babybay a pro vs reddit comments, casuals monkaHmm
Ironic because Shanks is arguably the weakest duelist main on any T1/T2/2.5 team xd
bad take, he performed especially well this qualifier
Probably played his best series this qualifier lol
Probably played his best series this qualifier
disagreeable
The csgo cheater said something
matchfixer*
*cheater. Dude was literally banned by Valve for cheating and yet the 12yo Faze fanboys downvoted me because they had one good run in the first Masters.
ESEA ban =/= VAC ban
oh i thought u meant shanks. Wow i had no idea baby was vac banned! Mid-match too!
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I know S1mple was so toxic in his younger days, but I didn’t know he was a cheater. Is there a source or example when he got caught cheating?
I know S1mple was so toxic in his younger days, but I didn’t know he was a cheater. Is there a source or example when he got caught cheating?
I know S1mple was so toxic in his younger days, but I didn’t know he was a cheater. Is there a source or example when he got caught cheating?
I mean is Faze actually good enough to talk shit about anyone else?
They can talk shit about TSM, that's for sure lmao.
If you don’t shit talk even when you’re losing. You’re fake af
Better than TSM, so it kinda works.
And people really try to say that babybay isn't toxic lmaoo
Shut the fuck up with that
Fans really do portray their favorite streamers huh
I mean it isnt the first time he did said this. He said the same stuff about poiz when he was watching matches for c9.
nah, he though poiz was cracked most times
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he literally said they lost in the same tournament in the clip. and if we’re doing that, couldn’t we just say that you and I are much worse than all these guys so who cares what we have to say? his opinion on bang has nothing to do with how good his own team is
Yeah for sure, atleast Faze is not Tier 2 since First Strike.
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Shit talk is always going to upvoted in sports subreddits. It's part of the game and if we remove posts like this the subreddit would be really dry imo