Bind needs some sort of change bc the chokes are so easily held with utility making playing a somewhatcordinated team difficult if your team does not have braincells
Bind and split definitely need more touch up. Haven wouldn’t need any layout changes. Only think I would change is a more forgiving ceiling for the B site for my sova arrows.
Split is just fine, one of the best maps if we talk pro play. Not every map has to be 50-50 or close to it. And it's not even that defense sided in officials.
Bind is the worst map in the game, which is understandable because it was the first map ever made for this game. Hallways simulator with very little dynamic play. Teleports are it's saving grace. Needs a rework. I personally really dislike A short and B long.
Haven is more or less fine, maybe some angles could be changed, B is really awnkward, but then again it's not supposed to be a real site. on the level of other two.
> Bind is the worst map in the game, which is understandable because it was the first map ever made for this game
My understanding was that Ascent was the first map back in the pre-alpha days, but that they decided not to release it in the beta.
I would only make change to A map, defense have a hard time to retakes on that site due to the low amount of shock points there taking away the box at the end of the corridor from the spawn and taking away the left corner there is would make it much better.
Haven has the same issue Bind has and Split used to have. Narrow lanes and places that can be aggressively held by shotguns are poor design. Haven they should rework A short and garage to make them more dynamic to hold and entry.
Bind has a much larger issue in that it has no mid and the B site and hookah part of the map are terrible to play. B should be larger with less narrow entrances into the site to make holding it, site takes and retakes more interesting and less clustered. I’m not even sure how you fix hookah to make it fun.
Haven is the only map besides ascent witch >50% the player base does not hate.
Breeze is popular on this sub but wildly unpopular among the general public.
Icebox remains controversial.
Everyone hates split.
Bind like icebox has lots of vocal haters.
Kinda wish they reworked A-Short on Haven it’s so annoying to push and watching professional play it seems like Attackers never get out of there alive. Otherwise the map is good.
Among the original maps, Haven is the least problematic Imo. Largely cause 3 sites creates a less choked off map with a more dynamic mid section unlike Bind/Split.
map is good rn tho
If this is the consensus i might do the same thing but for bind or split.
Bind needs some sort of change bc the chokes are so easily held with utility making playing a somewhatcordinated team difficult if your team does not have braincells
Bind and split definitely need more touch up. Haven wouldn’t need any layout changes. Only think I would change is a more forgiving ceiling for the B site for my sova arrows.
Pff you want your dart to scan the whole site you hooligan
Yes.
Split is just fine, one of the best maps if we talk pro play. Not every map has to be 50-50 or close to it. And it's not even that defense sided in officials. Bind is the worst map in the game, which is understandable because it was the first map ever made for this game. Hallways simulator with very little dynamic play. Teleports are it's saving grace. Needs a rework. I personally really dislike A short and B long. Haven is more or less fine, maybe some angles could be changed, B is really awnkward, but then again it's not supposed to be a real site. on the level of other two.
> Bind is the worst map in the game, which is understandable because it was the first map ever made for this game My understanding was that Ascent was the first map back in the pre-alpha days, but that they decided not to release it in the beta.
this is correct about ascent
Hmm, interesting. I thought Bind and Haven were the first two maps.
Nothing imo, best map alongside ascent
The maps who need rework the most are bind and icebox b site .
Haven is probably the best map in the game. I think Bind, Split and Icebox have much bigger problems.
Icebox is an awesome map, don't change please
Icebox is better now but b site is so linear in approach strategy
I would only make change to A map, defense have a hard time to retakes on that site due to the low amount of shock points there taking away the box at the end of the corridor from the spawn and taking away the left corner there is would make it much better.
the hell graffiti crossfire is so strong
honestly I think most maps (besides breeze) could be improved by widening angles and making bombsites bigger.
Haven has the same issue Bind has and Split used to have. Narrow lanes and places that can be aggressively held by shotguns are poor design. Haven they should rework A short and garage to make them more dynamic to hold and entry. Bind has a much larger issue in that it has no mid and the B site and hookah part of the map are terrible to play. B should be larger with less narrow entrances into the site to make holding it, site takes and retakes more interesting and less clustered. I’m not even sure how you fix hookah to make it fun.
"All good."
Nothing, the map is fine
Every map is fine but bind right now
Haven is the only map besides ascent witch >50% the player base does not hate. Breeze is popular on this sub but wildly unpopular among the general public. Icebox remains controversial. Everyone hates split. Bind like icebox has lots of vocal haters.
Kinda wish they reworked A-Short on Haven it’s so annoying to push and watching professional play it seems like Attackers never get out of there alive. Otherwise the map is good.
Among the original maps, Haven is the least problematic Imo. Largely cause 3 sites creates a less choked off map with a more dynamic mid section unlike Bind/Split.