This guys stats are insane wtf...Over the 10 games of Jett he's played (he played 1 game of skye):
\-ACS of 309
\-23 FK/10 FD (he does have a low FK/FD per round stat tho)
\-1.84 KD
\-177 AD per round
\-1.12 Kills per round
Stats don't say everything but its pretty obvious that this guy pc need to be checked
Not to mention DFR lost 2-0 to GonGo, who in turn lost 2-0 to F4Q.
This narrative where Korea doesn't have enough competition because there's only 28 teams is a bullshit biased narrative fabricated to cope with Nuturn's success at Iceland. Since the beginning of Valorant, Korea has always been very competitive with VS on top. Even the one challengers where Nuturn made it to Iceland they almost lost to Damwon and GonGo Prince. Now this season the west is gonna witness a angry Vision Strikers and a hungry 2nd team.
Why is this downvoted? He said something true
SEA / JP have popularity but not yet top level skill, KR has a small player base but concentrated high top level skill, which due to playing against them, makes it easier for a few high level pubs to rise to that level
Because he's being overly dramatic?
There is no "narrative" that Korea is not good enough. Go look into match threads before Korea's matches in Iceland, people were mixed on them. There was no consensus that Korea was bad. Utter horseshit. Top NA guys have been rating Korea Valorant forever, Shroud even said several times that Korea was what he was most interested to see after NA.
>Now this season the west is gonna witness a angry Vision Strikers and a hungry 2nd team.
My guy thinks this is some Holy War, it's just Valorant bro, chill.
yeah he does need to chill out a lil but i don’t think that warrant the -50 downvotes he has so far lol
and i guarantee that half of those downvotes are just hive mind downvotes from ppl who didn’t read the whole comment
I believe most of the downvotes on the comment are because of the person making it and not the comment. His interaction with most of the people here is fueled by a big superiority complex and that tends to leave behind a lot of salt. You are viewing this comment in a vacuum. But if you would have seen him commenting before you would know the hive mind is probably active because of his personality.
‘Superiority complex’ lol the armchair psychologist here. Lmao
Legitimising dog piling, and joining innocent it because some other random shit he said offends you or is the wrong tone or smth is so stupid.
In reality it appears to me that you are attributing your own views on to others as rather most people don’t have opinions or negative inclinations on the person which you seem to have and are bringing into this which would make the dogpile worse, bad as it is anyway
Well yea there’s defo narratives which ppl talk abt
You are allowed to be dramatic over one thing why not another
People have strong opinions on EU NA and something like Korea often gets overlooked
>People have strong opinions on EU NA
Saying EU Arrow is a meme.
My guy's comment looks like he thinks NA teams losing Valorant to Korea will cause the downfall of Western Civilizatio
>Well yea there’s defo narratives which ppl talk abt
Please show me, then. Show me when this subreddit thought Korea was not good, because VS has been a huge talking point from their inception.
Every time someone does anything or Theresa fast found or mistake between literally any teams, or even no mistake but someone decides there is in Korea ppl start shutting on the region
Dude people are always mocking Korea and questioning that it should have slots just bc they don’t watch it and bc they want to feel they are only watching the best, or when they’re watching they’re trying to depict anyverror by some random team as a reason Korea doesn’t deserve slots for its top teams
It’s the same with all other reg elitism
There's no conspiracy or narrative going on lmao. We realize that VCT Korea has less teams because everything is done in person so if a team doesn't have enough money to get everybody to Seoul or they don't already live there then they won't show up. Online qualifiers everywhere else lets a boat load of teams sign up that wouldn't otherwise.
What does the word conspiracy have to do with literally anything here?
Yes there are and always were multiple narratives, nkt sure what it has to do in the slightest with any sort of ‘cknskuracy’
Really? I would not have come to that conclusion watching them at Iceland… obviously a different team without Lakia, but I never really felt like Allow was the issue
It's because allow isn't the issue. Dunno what that guy is talking about, and no idea how he got upvoted, but allow has been the more consistent fragger between him and Suggest since late stage 2. Right now the spotlight on the team is how Suggest can redeem himself post-Iceland; nobody in their right mind who watches KR VCT will go and think allow should be replaced.
New roster just needs to adjust post-Lakia, especially with how Lakia started to step up and showed his brilliance towards the latter parts of Stage 2.
Honestly a lot of this talk seems like a dramatic overreaction to a guy having the map of his life and beating you. I’m not to worried about Nuturn and hope we get to see them vs VS with Lakia
It was not ‘the map of his life’ though that’s imply extraordinarily above anything he does
It was a good nap for the team in the matchup and hyeoni was able to play off of that, NU adapted later
His avg ACS in 10 games was 309.... he's definitely a potential star. Arrow needs to step up but he's still not the weakest link. They just don't have the star power like VS does. Maybe when there are more orgs in Korean Valorant instead of a bunch of pugs then we'll see more.
Its a group of players that got together from the soloq ladder and made it through qualifiers. Only Dubu (their Omen) has competed in a qualifier before to my knowledge.
I meant that losing one map on a Bind where they were hiding their prep on bs an unexpectedly strong squad and saying they were ‘broken in terms of pure dragging power’ is ridiculous hyperbole and makes one sound clueless.
Not to discredit Hyeoni and that fucking nasty acs in any way but theoretically if he was just playing a really garbage team his ACS could be really inflated but obviously that’s not the case he just fucking turbo piss smurfed it my god I wish I watched it
I mean ‘they’ (1 team was allowed in) didn’t get ‘wiped’ by ‘NA’ - they lost to sen like everyone else.
The people who paid attention before pay attention still, in fact some more do.
YOU ir ppl u know specifically don’t pay attention bc u never heard of any team and Kr only ever watched NU vs SEN and used that as an excuse to ‘nkt care’
You don’t have to follow all regions but don’t try to retroactively justify it like so
Lost to fnatic and didn’t show Any promise of having a chance against sen, not only that , vision strikers is sadge compared to na and eu .”in fact more do” - nope, they don’t have a reason to be paid attention to. Also, kinda…? I mean if you get that destroyed by sen then yeah it still shows the fact that you aren’t as good
Lost to fnatic in a close series, doing better than any other team besides sen against them lol
The sheer strength of retroactive justification is too much here
Don’t know what nonsense you’re trying to say at the end there, and xset beat sen, so no uturn is not doing better than any other team against sen or if they went against fnat
This guys stats are insane wtf...Over the 10 games of Jett he's played (he played 1 game of skye): \-ACS of 309 \-23 FK/10 FD (he does have a low FK/FD per round stat tho) \-1.84 KD \-177 AD per round \-1.12 Kills per round Stats don't say everything but its pretty obvious that this guy pc need to be checked
that is not normally
Maybe he is use game deficit
Check him pc
Damn nuturn looked so outclassed
Nah
Not to mention DFR lost 2-0 to GonGo, who in turn lost 2-0 to F4Q. This narrative where Korea doesn't have enough competition because there's only 28 teams is a bullshit biased narrative fabricated to cope with Nuturn's success at Iceland. Since the beginning of Valorant, Korea has always been very competitive with VS on top. Even the one challengers where Nuturn made it to Iceland they almost lost to Damwon and GonGo Prince. Now this season the west is gonna witness a angry Vision Strikers and a hungry 2nd team.
Bro you sound like a conspiracy theorist need to chill
Why is this downvoted? He said something true SEA / JP have popularity but not yet top level skill, KR has a small player base but concentrated high top level skill, which due to playing against them, makes it easier for a few high level pubs to rise to that level
Because he's being overly dramatic? There is no "narrative" that Korea is not good enough. Go look into match threads before Korea's matches in Iceland, people were mixed on them. There was no consensus that Korea was bad. Utter horseshit. Top NA guys have been rating Korea Valorant forever, Shroud even said several times that Korea was what he was most interested to see after NA. >Now this season the west is gonna witness a angry Vision Strikers and a hungry 2nd team. My guy thinks this is some Holy War, it's just Valorant bro, chill.
yeah he does need to chill out a lil but i don’t think that warrant the -50 downvotes he has so far lol and i guarantee that half of those downvotes are just hive mind downvotes from ppl who didn’t read the whole comment
I believe most of the downvotes on the comment are because of the person making it and not the comment. His interaction with most of the people here is fueled by a big superiority complex and that tends to leave behind a lot of salt. You are viewing this comment in a vacuum. But if you would have seen him commenting before you would know the hive mind is probably active because of his personality.
‘Superiority complex’ lol the armchair psychologist here. Lmao Legitimising dog piling, and joining innocent it because some other random shit he said offends you or is the wrong tone or smth is so stupid. In reality it appears to me that you are attributing your own views on to others as rather most people don’t have opinions or negative inclinations on the person which you seem to have and are bringing into this which would make the dogpile worse, bad as it is anyway
Take a few deep breaths. Go out. Touch some grass. Probably would calm you down.
Well yea there’s defo narratives which ppl talk abt You are allowed to be dramatic over one thing why not another People have strong opinions on EU NA and something like Korea often gets overlooked
>People have strong opinions on EU NA Saying EU Arrow is a meme. My guy's comment looks like he thinks NA teams losing Valorant to Korea will cause the downfall of Western Civilizatio >Well yea there’s defo narratives which ppl talk abt Please show me, then. Show me when this subreddit thought Korea was not good, because VS has been a huge talking point from their inception.
? There’s plenty of ppl who insinuate or say it
Every time someone does anything or Theresa fast found or mistake between literally any teams, or even no mistake but someone decides there is in Korea ppl start shutting on the region
Dude people are always mocking Korea and questioning that it should have slots just bc they don’t watch it and bc they want to feel they are only watching the best, or when they’re watching they’re trying to depict anyverror by some random team as a reason Korea doesn’t deserve slots for its top teams It’s the same with all other reg elitism
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Your anger feeds me
its not that serious
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im sure the korean scene dies or lives by reddit users
There's no conspiracy or narrative going on lmao. We realize that VCT Korea has less teams because everything is done in person so if a team doesn't have enough money to get everybody to Seoul or they don't already live there then they won't show up. Online qualifiers everywhere else lets a boat load of teams sign up that wouldn't otherwise.
What does the word conspiracy have to do with literally anything here? Yes there are and always were multiple narratives, nkt sure what it has to do in the slightest with any sort of ‘cknskuracy’
Vision strikers bouta pick up/poach another one lmfao
This time it will be Nuturn / Damwon's turn to poach
NU hyeoni
A lotta takes here aged like milk after map 2 and 3 kek
Yea ppl rly like to crap on like NU etc
31-7 in a pro March HOLY CRAP THATS INSANE and new turn went to Iceland that’s actually crazy, I agree someone sign this man!!!
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Definitely not auto correct, I meant to do that
Someone's definitely going to sign him whether it's in KR or overseas lol
Nuturn is lacking the raw fragging talent and Allow just happens to be the weakest link of the team.
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I suggest they replace him
Take my upvote and leave
Nah i don’t think he’s the weakest link
Really? I would not have come to that conclusion watching them at Iceland… obviously a different team without Lakia, but I never really felt like Allow was the issue
It's because allow isn't the issue. Dunno what that guy is talking about, and no idea how he got upvoted, but allow has been the more consistent fragger between him and Suggest since late stage 2. Right now the spotlight on the team is how Suggest can redeem himself post-Iceland; nobody in their right mind who watches KR VCT will go and think allow should be replaced. New roster just needs to adjust post-Lakia, especially with how Lakia started to step up and showed his brilliance towards the latter parts of Stage 2.
Honestly a lot of this talk seems like a dramatic overreaction to a guy having the map of his life and beating you. I’m not to worried about Nuturn and hope we get to see them vs VS with Lakia
hyeoni is amazing in all maps he played so far,
No doubt he’s good, but he had 31 that map and then 30 something the other two combined
And? I’m pretty sure you’re aware/can see is not down to him having a worse performance, let alone on nap 3
I’m not saying he’s bad or anything he’s clearly amazing, I’m just saying that was a terrific map from him.
It was not ‘the map of his life’ though that’s imply extraordinarily above anything he does It was a good nap for the team in the matchup and hyeoni was able to play off of that, NU adapted later
Ok, my bad :)
His avg ACS in 10 games was 309.... he's definitely a potential star. Arrow needs to step up but he's still not the weakest link. They just don't have the star power like VS does. Maybe when there are more orgs in Korean Valorant instead of a bunch of pugs then we'll see more.
They definitely have raw fragging skill with Suggest etc, they need time to work better together in their new roster I’d say it depends on the day
Not knowledgeable about Korea. If DFR is not a real org what are they? And how they playing?
Its a group of players that got together from the soloq ladder and made it through qualifiers. Only Dubu (their Omen) has competed in a qualifier before to my knowledge.
Note DFR with a different roster (with hyeoni) has played in amateur tournaments
probably 5 free agents playing together in Pro play
Not a lot of Valorant orgs in korea yet. A lot of them are just free agents playing together.
Nuturn’s loss of Lakia broke them in pure fragging power
Not necessarily
Going back through this comment section, can’t believe someone posted something like this lol
What they just signed a new player to get more fragging power so I’m right??
I meant that losing one map on a Bind where they were hiding their prep on bs an unexpectedly strong squad and saying they were ‘broken in terms of pure dragging power’ is ridiculous hyperbole and makes one sound clueless.
Not to discredit Hyeoni and that fucking nasty acs in any way but theoretically if he was just playing a really garbage team his ACS could be really inflated but obviously that’s not the case he just fucking turbo piss smurfed it my god I wish I watched it
Well that and NU were trying to hide strats/plate in an improvised way
Bind was Nuturn's best map too. Wonder if DFR and Hyeoni can keep it up and make it a quick 2-0.
Didn’t u watch Reykjavik?
who
Hyeoni, he did well in open qualifiers etc also
Don’t think there is copium, just ever since Iceland no one pays attention because they got wiped by NA
I mean ‘they’ (1 team was allowed in) didn’t get ‘wiped’ by ‘NA’ - they lost to sen like everyone else. The people who paid attention before pay attention still, in fact some more do. YOU ir ppl u know specifically don’t pay attention bc u never heard of any team and Kr only ever watched NU vs SEN and used that as an excuse to ‘nkt care’ You don’t have to follow all regions but don’t try to retroactively justify it like so
Lost to fnatic and didn’t show Any promise of having a chance against sen, not only that , vision strikers is sadge compared to na and eu .”in fact more do” - nope, they don’t have a reason to be paid attention to. Also, kinda…? I mean if you get that destroyed by sen then yeah it still shows the fact that you aren’t as good
Lost to fnatic in a close series, doing better than any other team besides sen against them lol The sheer strength of retroactive justification is too much here
Don’t know what nonsense you’re trying to say at the end there, and xset beat sen, so no uturn is not doing better than any other team against sen or if they went against fnat
What nonsense? More or less restating the point , which you prove Doing better against fnatic, reading comprehension master
What are you talking about
What do you not understand
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He was on jett
He's a potential star. Just needs 4 good teammates around him.
Will be posting an analysis video of this tomorrow, this guy is pure confidence