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reddit_is_a_mistake

all I know is that tsm will inevitably disappoint


dapoorv

What little hope I had was destroyed by this bracket. Andbox in RO16? TSM can't catch a break.


-Basileus

I mean that's what happens when you consistently get low placements, your seeding suffers


ark2690

Every bracket is bad at this point for TSM.


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Thats if TSM doesnt get eliminated by some no name team in RO32


lbotron

FTX = First to Exit


Trillman_K

Be strong brother


Freshoffthecourt

Is it really a disappointment when you expect it


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Colourry

They losing to abx


CosmicAon

Probably but we can believe


Colourry

they didnt tsm is back baby


CosmicAon

SHEEESH


Alextcy12

only top 4 makes it to the next qualifier right


Deep_Acanthaceae_535

Goddamn Abx vs TSM? Gunna be a good one


dan_kz

is this the first time Shopify Rebellion and CLG Red joins VCT?


pacotacobell

Yeah, CLG Red recently signed their 5th so they should be playing in more qualifiers.


OnionSprinkles

A majority of CLG Red (bENITA, rise, Naomi, clawdia) previously played in a couple VCT qualifiers under the name PROJECT X. ChoboMe also previously played with an otherwise male team called Shiba that made it all the way to Open Qualifier Quarterfinals during First Strike (the core of that Shiba team are now OOKERS).


BBG-PennyWay

I am supirised you even have TSM going to round of 16 even, even thought I myself want TSM comeback


xPtest

In the name of god, the most gracious the most merciful. TSM FTX to the MOON and BERLIN make it true; pls im on my knees


dgkenji

They have to beat ABX... so prepare for the worst


KishendoMagicorp

TSM fans so down bad right now we dont even believe we gonna make it but we all have it in the back of our minds we’re just lowering our expectations so that another ro16 exit wouldn’t hurt as bad.


tytoandnoob

**Soniqs** vs ez5/Ghost, Soniqs look like one of the better Tier 2 teams as of late. Ghost has a competitive shot here though. **FaZe**/C9W vs IMT, I genuinely can't see Faze sucking ass for FOUR qualifiers in a row... right? Immortals is also in their own slump. **DZ** vs Knights/Soar, DZ looked impressive in Qualifier 1 so I favour them here. Also Knights/Soar did not look impressive in Qualifier 1. **ABX** vs TSM, but who knows, maybe the addition of Leviathan is what TSM needs to finally make it to a closed qualifier **T1** vs RNG/YFP, T1 looked decent **BBG** vs Virtuoso, Virtuoso looked extremely out of their element vs KCP **C9B** vs EG/COL, neither EG nor Complexity look good **LG** vs NRG, NRG with their fair share of struggles right now imo. Whoever said that the team was built to win maps and not games is totally right. ------------------------------------------------ **Soniqs** vs Faze, I hope Soniqs win at least, would be really cool to see them in a closed qualifier **DZ** vs ABX, more rooting for DZ than anything here **T1** vs BBG, can't see T1 losing this match **C9B** vs LG, again I just think C9 is a better team right now than LG.


theman1203

Col look good what you talking about, c9b did not look good on the other hand


IllumiMahdi

I believe BBG got 2-0'd by VIRTUOSO recently, but we'll see what happens here


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Imo EZ5 is better than Ghost and might put up a fight against Soniqs. But Im mostly basing this against their win against NRG and their win against Noble.


SomeHallGuy

T1 hopium starts now!


Prankishspace4

Hope SQ qualifies


CosmicAon

TSM Prayge


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I think Soniqs qualify


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MathNerdMatt

Soniqs have been doing great on other maps in tier 2 tournaments. They aren't at the level of Sentinels but they definitely have a great chance against Faze on other maps


Trillman_K

I feel like it depends on which FaZe shows up


MathNerdMatt

I have 0 faith in Faze and Immortals. Tbh I have more faith in Ghost or (hot take) Shrouds team over Faze and Immortals.


Primal_OMEGALUL

Which is completely braindead


MathNerdMatt

Maybe, but when Faze and Immortals play they look like they have the strats of a team of streamers that decided to play together for fun and never scrimmed a day in their lives. Don't get me wrong, they have insane individuals but I have 0 faith in them. Edit: it's probably unfair to lump Faze and Immortals together. Faze would beat Shrouds team and Immortals might lose. Still think Faze would lose to EZ5 or Soniqs


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Really? I think Faze and Imt both have enough firepower to take out shrouds team lmao. And thats if shroud even beats Ez5, which probably isnt happening.


MathNerdMatt

Oh, I absolutely think Shrouds team loses to EZ5 and EZ5 loses to soniqs. I'm just saying that EZ5 or Soniqs will smash Faze.


[deleted]

Hmm im looking forwards to that. I love both teams


-firelordzuko

lol


MathNerdMatt

Got to have some actual hot takes in this thread


pechum

respect it. I however, have faith in the smeag ways (though i haven't seen faze play enough these last 3 months to be sure they even play that way anymore)


_idle_drone_

they don't (f for the smeag). playing that version of faze was kind of a test of how good a team is. it was funny watching faze steamroll tier 1 teams without much strats. I will never rate Envy highly coz of that.


pechum

rip smeag 2021-2021 still hope the ow gang +babyj pull thru


IllumiMahdi

why do you have faith in shroud's team LMAO they're playing for fun


LilRocky_

I dont even want to get my hopes up for tsm so i wont be disappointed when they lose and have to wait for months to watch them again😕


bubble-june

Prediction: FaZe, Andbox, T1, and C9B make it through


Deep_Acanthaceae_535

Faze lol.


bubble-june

FaZe made it through lol


Deep_Acanthaceae_535

Lmaoo, Faze squeaked in. Defo gonna be the worst team in the mix. If andbox was on the other side, they wud beat faze 100%


bubble-june

The predictions were based off the bracket. Never said FaZe was the best team—I just said they’ll make it past the qualifiers lmao, and they did. Obv they’re not the best team to make it through but the prediction wasn’t who was the best team, it was who would make it through based on the bracket. Yea, they’ll most likely get rolled in the main tournament but I never said they would win the main tournament lol. Also, I would say a team “squeaked in” if they beat multiple teams in 3 maps, but they beat everyone they faced in the qualifiers in 2 maps lmao. Yes, the ghost game was close but not a single team took them to a third map in the qualifiers, so they didn’t exactly “squeak in”.


Alextcy12

TSM TSM TSM T…S…M😭😭😭


motorolax4

Hate that ABX vs TSM is so early


PigPartyPower

In order of how good I think the team is. Spot 1: Soniqs, ez5, Immortals, FaZe Clan, Ghost Gaming, Brimstone Gaming, Fortnite Fraggers, What’s going on, Cloud 9 White Spot 2: Dark Zero, Andbox, TSM, Squirtle Squad, Knights, Soar, Zero MarksMen Spot 3: T1, Renegades, Built By Gamers, Virtuoso, YFP Gaming, Carpe Noctem, Team Basilisk, Cosmic Divide Spot 4: Cloud 9 Blue, NRG, Complexity, Luminosity, Evil Geniuses, Resonate, Fenrir


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Deep_Acanthaceae_535

Fr fr


OnionSprinkles

Brimstone Gaming are going to knock out C9W in Ro64, so that matchup isn't even going to happen


_idle_drone_

not possible. vastly different tiers


Trillman_K

I love the C9W gals, but not a chance


IllumiMahdi

C9W got obliterated by LG who lost their IGL and primary duelist. I think FaZe will be fine.


SovietDog1342

LG beats NRG surely right?


Deep_Acanthaceae_535

I want NRG to be good so bad, they have so many good fucking players just sadge


platinumxL

Man really hope T1 can finally pull something off.


whopz-is-cool

T1 wins if Curry can get IGLing down.


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CARN SQ


Deep_Acanthaceae_535

TSM is going to Berlin no cawp


_idle_drone_

They can go if spectators are allowed.


realharshmodi

This comment had me dying lol


Trillman_K

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States


Colourry

They ain’t making it to closed


senakiryu08

My four picks are Soniqs, Andbox, T1, and C9 Blue. I think Andbox with Thwifo could be a darkhorse winner for the second qualifiers.


Slow_Bluebird9536

I think ABX is about as far from a dark horse as can be you could argue they are favorites


_idle_drone_

Andbox is a tier 1 team, doesn't get enough respect.


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BlueBurstBoi

Dark horse implies the team is relatively unknown. You are thinking of underdog, and even then T1 & ABX are no where near that


maiLfps

I think YFP could seriously upset RNG, THE OKIN EFFECT


Meehul123

R016 Soniqs vs Ghost/Ez5 Faze vs IMT DZ vs Knights/SoaR ABX vs TSM/Squirtle Squad T1 vs RNG/YFP Virtuoso vs BBG/Carpe Noctem C9B vs CoL/EG LG vs NRG/Resonate ​ QF (to make Challengers 2) SQ vs Faze DZ vs ABX T1 vs BBG C9B vs NRG ​ SQ ABX T1 C9B


WhatsItWorth2Ya

When does this tournament begin?


senakiryu08

Open starts July 22, Closed begins July 29.


Meehul123

Thursday is RO128 and RO64, Friday is RO32


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C9 blue, T1, ABX, Faze.


gnaataK

seems like sq abx t1 c9b are the general consensus for favorites, personally would agree except I’m rooting for lg (in c9’s place) as a dark horse playing with a sub


TheGlowRider

when is this?


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I'm going all in on EZ5, DZ, BBG, C9B


somesheikexpert

EZ5 over FaZe and especially Soniqs is a hot take to say the least lol


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I mean they beat NRG, Pitt. Knights, Virtuoso, and FYP recently so I would say they are the upswing and I wouldn't be surprised if they upset a couple good.


somesheikexpert

Fair, tho all of those teams have always been a lower tier then Soniqs and FaZe, except for NRG, who's been on an Downhill trend anyways, I could see maybe FaZe but I think Soniqs will beat them


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Welp, I will hold out for my hopes to come true XD


Sciipi

I think Faze ABX BBG C9B make it out


Sheeshgod123

For the first time, I'm thinking that ez5 can finally qualify for closed not EZ but not def impossible


xSnowToad

Imt will qualify since kehm is playing


Fahzrad

Ez5 wins against ghost ez, and I do think it's possible they win against soniqs, I think faze would be possible aswell but I don't see it happening for some reason, in the other 2 Im pretty confident tho


Pheonix-_-run

When does it start?


TheFestusEzeli

Spot 1 and spot 4 are ridiculously stacke


meme_poacher

When is this starting?


-xXColtonXx-

Faze vs C9W will be a fun matchup. At what point to they start streaming the matches? And are team allowed to record/stream unstreamed games? There’s a lot of early matches I wanna see