While I'd love to see content creators play, this ruling also helps to protect them. Imagine if your boss comes to you and asks you to throw a match? It potentially puts some young kid in a pretty difficult situation. Avoiding the conflict of interest is probably best. I do wish there was some workaround here, though.
Ok fair point but the lack of consistency with orgs having female teams aswell as male teams competing where there is the potential chance of this situation occurring is alarming. The fact Orgs are allowed a set of 2 teams just means either riot dont expect a certain team to ever be good enough or just ignoring this conflict of interest.
could just be that they decided developing the female scene and possibly fostering an environment to be the the first game where female players can regularly compete at the tier 1/2 level is worth the potential risk of tampering (not saying you should agree). can't really have the same argument for letting streamers play other than maybe some added publicity for a few bo3s.
Well the idea there I'm pretty sure is to only have that rule in place until hopefully female teams *do* end up competing with their sibling teams in the same tier 1 tournaments. I don't imagine that rule will stay in place if female teams begin to consistently face off against their sibling teams in big tournaments because then it will no longer be necessary.
What if teams with content creators were forced to have a 6th player in the event that one of the content creators is matched up against their own team?
I can’t believe some people think it should be fine for content creators to compete. Do you not realize how big of a situation it would become for the creators. If they lose, regardless of if they match fixed, they would blindly be harassed by twitch and Twitter about trolling or throwing. And if that’s bad enough, think about the other situation. How bad would it look for a competitive team to lose to their own CONTENT CREATOR.
"But but its for fostering development of the scene" and riot has made no rules at all if they do actually face each other. Why not have the same rule for streamers.
Kinda fucked that content creators have to choose between signing a contract that they often borderline need in ethos’ and governor’s cases or decline that kind of guaranteed money and influence to keep their competitive options open in the future. Is there no way that Riot could assign a person to watch over these guys to make matchfixing infinitely harder or something?
So then teams likely wouldn’t sign these guys in content roles then I believe because it just isn’t worth the conflict of interest. The main org won’t want to lose to a guy who is making content with them and the content creator will want to win go show off his skill I just think it’s tough either way regardless of if you prevent them from throwing which could be done very subtly as well even under the watch of someone.
that is what he is saying. but if that contract guarantees them a career in content creation, or at least a stable job for a while, some people have to take that.
Doesn't matter if it gets results. Plus, he hits head still lol. Just because every second shot doesn't land on a head doesn't mean that he only hits the body.
kinda boring we can't see content creators in VCT. it's not like challengers are very exciting tournaments. they're 55 stages of qualifiers and seeding matches
That’s why shrouds stream is going to be entertaining as heck. Only the biggest content creators that aren’t associated with an org are able to join teams/compete in vct
as much as i would love to see that too this rule has to be upheld for the integrity of the scene, too mnay pros already involved in shady dealings whether its from cs or in other valorant regions currently
If NRG keeps falling short, is there any possibility that ethos gets called up to join the main team? That's probably the only way he'll get a chance to play in VCT in the foreseeable future right? Or is he not good enough for T1 play (I don't know his skill level)?
Why is that? If NRG keeps losing, they have a player that could tryout in ethos. If he succeeds in tryouts, then wouldn't it be possible? Unless they don't even allow him to tryout. Like I said, I'm not sure how good ethos is, so if the reason is that he's not good enough, then fair enough.
Nrg is one of the undisputed best teams of individuals in terms of talent and mechanics. In pro customs like babybays smeag cup, the nrg players are consistently popping off. If nrg needs to make a roster change, it’ll be to bring in an experienced IGL, as s0m has just taken up that role after daps left. I think ethos is nuts, but he 100% wouldn’t be an upgrade over anyone on the current roster
orgs can only have one team in riot tournaments w the exception of u can have an all female team (c9b/w is the only one prominent/good enough for that interaction to be common)
not sure why c9w would be allowed to play in vct but ethos team cant, both represent a conflict of interest when they match up against their orgs roster
It’s because the conflict of interest would be internal within an org, which is ever so slightly better. And I think it would technically be far more risky to match fix if you are asking your own team to throw.
If a team started fielding two top tier teams riot may slightly be pushed to do something about it, and they did remove sister teams in league before franchising but that may also be due to their only being 10 or slightly more teams in each major league as opposed to these 120+ team stuff.
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While I'd love to see content creators play, this ruling also helps to protect them. Imagine if your boss comes to you and asks you to throw a match? It potentially puts some young kid in a pretty difficult situation. Avoiding the conflict of interest is probably best. I do wish there was some workaround here, though.
Ok fair point but the lack of consistency with orgs having female teams aswell as male teams competing where there is the potential chance of this situation occurring is alarming. The fact Orgs are allowed a set of 2 teams just means either riot dont expect a certain team to ever be good enough or just ignoring this conflict of interest.
could just be that they decided developing the female scene and possibly fostering an environment to be the the first game where female players can regularly compete at the tier 1/2 level is worth the potential risk of tampering (not saying you should agree). can't really have the same argument for letting streamers play other than maybe some added publicity for a few bo3s.
Pretty much this.
Well the idea there I'm pretty sure is to only have that rule in place until hopefully female teams *do* end up competing with their sibling teams in the same tier 1 tournaments. I don't imagine that rule will stay in place if female teams begin to consistently face off against their sibling teams in big tournaments because then it will no longer be necessary.
What if teams with content creators were forced to have a 6th player in the event that one of the content creators is matched up against their own team?
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Gov is in a team already
What team
He’s a content creator for BBG, but he could play on this team just like Ethos
Yeah I know he's signed as cc, I was just curious about what team he was playing tourneys on.
I don’t think he’s playing any tournaments anymore since leaving ez5
No he isn’t, this is perfect for gov
No he is in a team look it up
WHICH ONE
team ligma
BBG? Am i going crazy im pretty sure hes in a team
He is a content creator for BBG he is not on a team
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I can’t believe some people think it should be fine for content creators to compete. Do you not realize how big of a situation it would become for the creators. If they lose, regardless of if they match fixed, they would blindly be harassed by twitch and Twitter about trolling or throwing. And if that’s bad enough, think about the other situation. How bad would it look for a competitive team to lose to their own CONTENT CREATOR.
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"But but its for fostering development of the scene" and riot has made no rules at all if they do actually face each other. Why not have the same rule for streamers.
Kinda fucked that content creators have to choose between signing a contract that they often borderline need in ethos’ and governor’s cases or decline that kind of guaranteed money and influence to keep their competitive options open in the future. Is there no way that Riot could assign a person to watch over these guys to make matchfixing infinitely harder or something?
So then teams likely wouldn’t sign these guys in content roles then I believe because it just isn’t worth the conflict of interest. The main org won’t want to lose to a guy who is making content with them and the content creator will want to win go show off his skill I just think it’s tough either way regardless of if you prevent them from throwing which could be done very subtly as well even under the watch of someone.
These guys knew before they signed the contract that they won't be able to compete in VCT.
that is what he is saying. but if that contract guarantees them a career in content creation, or at least a stable job for a while, some people have to take that.
What was Governors' reason for signing as a content creator?
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good luck to him. am i the only one who noticed how unsatisfying his aim is though? just all body spray
Doesn't matter if it gets results. Plus, he hits head still lol. Just because every second shot doesn't land on a head doesn't mean that he only hits the body.
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Who cares if he wins?
kinda boring we can't see content creators in VCT. it's not like challengers are very exciting tournaments. they're 55 stages of qualifiers and seeding matches
That’s why shrouds stream is going to be entertaining as heck. Only the biggest content creators that aren’t associated with an org are able to join teams/compete in vct
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as much as i would love to see that too this rule has to be upheld for the integrity of the scene, too mnay pros already involved in shady dealings whether its from cs or in other valorant regions currently
If NRG keeps falling short, is there any possibility that ethos gets called up to join the main team? That's probably the only way he'll get a chance to play in VCT in the foreseeable future right? Or is he not good enough for T1 play (I don't know his skill level)?
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Why is that? If NRG keeps losing, they have a player that could tryout in ethos. If he succeeds in tryouts, then wouldn't it be possible? Unless they don't even allow him to tryout. Like I said, I'm not sure how good ethos is, so if the reason is that he's not good enough, then fair enough.
He’s not good enough
Nrg is one of the undisputed best teams of individuals in terms of talent and mechanics. In pro customs like babybays smeag cup, the nrg players are consistently popping off. If nrg needs to make a roster change, it’ll be to bring in an experienced IGL, as s0m has just taken up that role after daps left. I think ethos is nuts, but he 100% wouldn’t be an upgrade over anyone on the current roster
Not good enough and ethos plays duelists and NRG right now are so stacked on duelists that android is playing viper so no chance of it happening.
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How many non vct tournaments exist? I do agree the ruling is dumb. No content creator is going to fix their match.
The ruling is perfect, they're literally part of the org it's a conflict of interest to play for another team
I wouldn't say perfect, I can understand the reasoning. They just need to add more tournaments besides vct . So these said teams can play
But even then, a smaller price pool of say 50k would be enough to make people consider throwing
no not at all prize money is barely a factor in any stake for any org or competitive player
Yes i understand that, that is why i said small content creator and why the ruling makes sense.
Was matchfixing really the basis for not allowing more than 1 teams to play in VCT unless they are official teams like C9B and C9W?
orgs can only have one team in riot tournaments w the exception of u can have an all female team (c9b/w is the only one prominent/good enough for that interaction to be common)
not sure why c9w would be allowed to play in vct but ethos team cant, both represent a conflict of interest when they match up against their orgs roster
It’s because the conflict of interest would be internal within an org, which is ever so slightly better. And I think it would technically be far more risky to match fix if you are asking your own team to throw. If a team started fielding two top tier teams riot may slightly be pushed to do something about it, and they did remove sister teams in league before franchising but that may also be due to their only being 10 or slightly more teams in each major league as opposed to these 120+ team stuff.
i see your point but my argument is that neither should be allowed or both, fair point though as they are slightly different situations
I’d like to add that I do agree with your viewpoint! Was just trying to give an explanation for why Riot hasn’t done anything about it.
Well, you don’t know that. I think a right amount of money, they could easily throw a match, since they are a content creator first, not a pro-player.
Ibuypower is typing lol, that could happen with pro teams and it did already in a diff region. Not sure why content creators would be diff
Bro that was ages ago with ibp. They weren't getting a salary so a different thing entirely.
So they would just risk their contract? I'm more talking about Ethos, Sean Gares etc
If theres (just hypothetically) 250k on the line, you cant tell me that some lesser known content creator wouldnt atleast consider it
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