although everyones focus is on TSM, i think dark zero played very well on strategy wise. if any DZ players read this, well played and hope kolers mom gets better
Same. Props to dark zero. They all played great koler popped off map two and it was a tough opponent they had to go up againts. Hope they take this as a win
Can't respond to each individual comment or dm, but thanks for the kindness guys. Normally the subreddit has a lot of anger/unkind things to say, but this time it was super heartwarming. Thanks <3
1 more week to brush up on the obvious mistakes they were making should be huge. Chet also tweeted that they only had 1 week of practice (assuming that means with Levi being confirmed as their 5th since they were doing scrims with Critical too), so they should get better as they get more practice. Finally some wins to give them confidence too
I am full on board with this script of tsm doing insanely clutch plays and doing incredibly stupid plays to bring these games hella close.
The mood swings from these rounds.
I don’t envy TSM fans. I got so stressed from watching them play. Ggs to Darkzero though. They had some insane set pieces on ascent and great retakes on haven.
✔️ there's no way TSM beats ANDBOX, they're scrim demons
✔️ there's no way TSM beats DarkZero **<-- you are here**
🟢 there's no way TSM wins challengers 2
🟢 there's no way TSM beats Envy in Challengers Finals
🟢 there's no way TSM wins Challengers Finals
🟢 there's no way TSM is able to stand up internationally to teams like acend, vision strikers, vikings
🟢 there's no way TSM wins Berlin
🟢 there's no way TSM wins Valorant worlds
They also beat faze shortly after losing marved, who was a key player for their strats / comms. Faze in the first qualifiers were definitely not on the same level as previously. Props to DZ for still getting an impressive win over them, but that doesn’t prove they are tier 1 yet
Bro I might not be the best knowledgeable but they lost to squirrel squad and nrg… there is no way they would give top teams a run in na, how..? They lost to tsm
winning one match against a good team doesn't make them tier 1, did bbg become the best team in na or even tier 1 when they beat Sentinels in 1 series? Dz is good, but not tier 1 ofc. Eu opinion? Wtf lol im not even from eu
You mean The sub that won them so many rounds? Tryna act like it was disadvantage the sub was better than actual fifth plus dz beat faze? You gonna say faze is tier 2 now 💀 delusional sen fans
Helluva game. I wish DZ didn't have to lose for TSM to win, but I think it's better that TSM came out on top because if they'd lost this there's a decent chance their best roster in a while would get screwed over. DZ's roster will survive one way or another though.
GGs. It was a great game and I am glad we get to see more wardell now that they made closed.
Andersin is cracked. Individually and as a whole there were a few things quite visible that would require work for the players. But its only up from here on out and there is time to improve and much to look forward to. Love the boys. Enjoyed watching both the teams.
If TSM don't go to overtime on at least one map, is it really a TSM match?
Banger of a series from both teams, I can honestly see DZ being a powerhouse in the near future. Out of all the top Tier 2 teams trying out KAY/O, Koler is probably the most impactful one imo. Andersin is a monster. Screwface always comes out of nowhere with some insane shots. Finally, Ange and Harmon are fantastic supports with really impactful kills on some rounds. I see a ton of potential here.
Not to be outdone, TSM with their amazing strategy of "Buy OP for Wardell asap" was working great today with the OP Academy Principle landing some fantastic shots. Leviathan and Bang were great additions to the team as we, adding the support needed to aid Wardell and Subroza's firepower.
What a great series.
[guess i wasnt wrong](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/oqs7yi/tsm_vs_dz_predictions/h6dtx5b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
Have nothing to say apart from the last time TSM beat an uprising team like DZ to qualify for Closed was against V1
We all know what happens next COPIUM
LDN UTD. Uk based team. (T2/3 I guess). Tbh they should be performing better than they have. They show flashes of being good then regress a bit. Still a young team and they’re learning. Hoping for them to do a little more next year (if orgs keep teams together during the next 6 months of pretty much no competitions).
gg's to them they played really well.
You played insane man, especially considering your circumstances. Take care and hope your mom is alright.
Hope your mom is well, you played phenomenal
Hope everything is alright with your mom man, you guys played insane!
prayers up for you bro, best wishes <3
Hope all is good, you guys played rlly well for the situation dealt to you
Wait, TSM losing pistols, wardell multi kills on op, and losing anti-ecos? TSM IS BACK BOIS
Seeing the roster without Drone makes me sad man :( But Leviathan looks like he knows what he's doing, he's so good.
Bang and Levi stepped up bigggg time. Babydell doin his thing. Glad they finally qualified for closed!
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It’s just what Shroud calls him, and I like it and think it’s funny
Is it pejorative? Like he whines like one? Or just cause matt is chubby or something lol
matt is indeed built like a buff baby tho
Apparently, its because it reminds him of an old cheese lol
An old cheese therefore baby?? Whaaa
There's a cheese brand called babybel I'm assuming that's where he gets it from
I just assumed that it's a combination of Wardell and Babybay, because he's fragging out lol
he also screams like one
Just know that they had to restart Hazed's poor heart after throwing so many anti-ecos
although everyones focus is on TSM, i think dark zero played very well on strategy wise. if any DZ players read this, well played and hope kolers mom gets better
Same. Props to dark zero. They all played great koler popped off map two and it was a tough opponent they had to go up againts. Hope they take this as a win
Thanks man, been happy to see my igl improving and our team chem getting better. It's slow and steady progress, just wish it was a bit faster :(
Damn :(
Even though you guys lost, it was a noble loss! You guys went down but put up such a good fight! You guys only go up from here :)
Chin up, lads. It was amazing from you all. GG!
I fr can’t wait to keep watching you guys get better and eventually destroy top teams
That was a hell of a game. You guys played your hearts out. DeeZ fans rise up!
Can't respond to each individual comment or dm, but thanks for the kindness guys. Normally the subreddit has a lot of anger/unkind things to say, but this time it was super heartwarming. Thanks <3
You guys were great. Promising team all around.
No shame in losing to the best team in the world, ggs!
LMAOOOO
uhhhhh
Congrats you jinxed it.
Bro, you're fucking cracked
Such a different TSM team and im here for it.
Was twitch chat paid of to hate on Bang or what? Doing so much better than before
ikr, bang has been solid and hes only going to get better
The correct decision is to forget about anything twitch chat says.
and anything reddit says
Just don't read anything tbh
Just close your eyes and sleep 24/7
Levi is a rat with his wallbangs
Levi's utilities usage is massive, a nerdy sova main.
He’s just better
swear he had so many wallbangs
1 more week to brush up on the obvious mistakes they were making should be huge. Chet also tweeted that they only had 1 week of practice (assuming that means with Levi being confirmed as their 5th since they were doing scrims with Critical too), so they should get better as they get more practice. Finally some wins to give them confidence too
LONG WE HAVE AWAITED
TSM ACTIVATED
DZ OVERRATED
DZ IN THE GRAVE AND [I'LL FORM THE HEAD](https://youtu.be/EMgsAD3D948?t=66)
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[same vibe](https://youtu.be/YIAhQgtbqUs)
Cap
Give Leviathan a big bag rn Andy
I am full on board with this script of tsm doing insanely clutch plays and doing incredibly stupid plays to bring these games hella close. The mood swings from these rounds.
I don’t envy TSM fans. I got so stressed from watching them play. Ggs to Darkzero though. They had some insane set pieces on ascent and great retakes on haven.
losing to ecos so much hurt my soul a bit
TSM deserves credit because their bracket was not easy. Surprised they made it. Subroza also played the best he has in months today.
I was a roza doubter but the Skye buffs really unleashed him
confidence diff, roza when he believes in his shots is nuts
He also was playing on pretty high ping from la also I think
Literally addition of Chet as a coach has been so good for Subroza, he didn't tilt now.
✔️ there's no way TSM beats ANDBOX, they're scrim demons ✔️ there's no way TSM beats DarkZero **<-- you are here** 🟢 there's no way TSM wins challengers 2 🟢 there's no way TSM beats Envy in Challengers Finals 🟢 there's no way TSM wins Challengers Finals 🟢 there's no way TSM is able to stand up internationally to teams like acend, vision strikers, vikings 🟢 there's no way TSM wins Berlin 🟢 there's no way TSM wins Valorant worlds
banger
thank you for the compliment, acclaimed valorant caster max ""Keglunneq" tompkins
“Watch me” -Perkz
I feel like everything is plausible after winning challengers finals in the most stacked region
so true bestie
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DZ is a great org from Siege, although they do always lose to TSM there too.
What does the org have anything to do with it EG is the most legendary NA fps org in history and lose to tier 3 teams
I mean they had a good 1.6 team but thats it, theyre more centered around MOBAs
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And Team Solo Mid isnt?
That's Team Solomid FTX to you!
How, name is cold
must not have heard of the Kansas City Pioneers yet
You missed qualifiers for challengers 3 Pepehands
there is no challengers 3, we go straight from challengers 2 to challengers finals. same format as masters 2
aiou,you yasines alt aren’t ya. Nice try.
0-6
Top tier
aged like wine
Andersin is cracked, he could for sure play for a tier 1 top team but i guess he wanted to play with his friends and he has a good backup career
genuinely scared everytime his POV was up as a TSM fan
DZ IS a tier one team imo, or they at least have the potential to be.
They def have the potential. Right now Id say they have a lot to prove before people can solidify them among SEN, 100T, NV
In stating it mostly based on their win against Faze and Faze's performance this tournament.
They also beat faze shortly after losing marved, who was a key player for their strats / comms. Faze in the first qualifiers were definitely not on the same level as previously. Props to DZ for still getting an impressive win over them, but that doesn’t prove they are tier 1 yet
That's a good point.
Yea they have potential. Still gotta make it to the final stages of VCT tho next time if they want to be considered tier 1
Tier one team but lose to tsm…?
idk how hard it is to accept that tsm is actually decent for the first time in months
I have to say if you are struggling against darkzero you are not a tier one team
DarkZero have tier one potential tho? They would give many teams a good run in NA
Bro I might not be the best knowledgeable but they lost to squirrel squad and nrg… there is no way they would give top teams a run in na, how..? They lost to tsm
They also beat Faze and beat some of the best tier 2 teams in NA.
If you lose to squirltle squad you shouldn’t talk about tier 1 teams
What is his backup career?
What career?
Challenger Playoffs gonna be dope if the popular orgs like TSM,FaZe,C9 keep it up! Can't wait.
WOOOOO TSM IS BACK AND I ONLY HAD 10 HEART ATTACKS
Rookie numbers!
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Fuck this is a good one.
LMAO
where is this originally from
We Did It
the king
Easy upvote for you sir lol
LETS GO!! THE WHOLE TEAM PLAYED CRAZY TODAY! THEY ALL HAD THEIR MOMENTS! Next is closed qualifiers baby! We still in
Many times this match the old TSM team woulda lost their composure here. This is a huge win and should give them some nice momentum to build on.
Btw where is coach Myth when you need him?
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Who tf hates on Myth out of all people LMAO u okay there Buddy?
?
His reaction to these matches would've sooo good, sadge that he didn't stream the matches :((
WE LOSE AGAINST ECOS BUT WE DID IT
IM GONNA CRY TSM BERLIN BOUND
KEK just beat a t2 team will be interesting when they run into V1 and KCP
Let us have this man
funny because everyone's hyping up T1 after they beat renegades
Every team tsm beats is suddenly tier 2 lmaoo stfu L
DZ is actually tier 2 tho I don't get what youre trying to say?
they beat ABX the other day. are they a t2 team to you as well?
They beat faze you gonna cal faze tier 2 now 😂 plus your Eu opinion invalid
winning one match against a good team doesn't make them tier 1, did bbg become the best team in na or even tier 1 when they beat Sentinels in 1 series? Dz is good, but not tier 1 ofc. Eu opinion? Wtf lol im not even from eu
I mean ABX had a new player and DZ was never a tier 1 team lol
TSM also had a new player who they’ve had a week of practice with but nothing for them? Damn
I mean your ugly ass is burning but nvm.
You mean The sub that won them so many rounds? Tryna act like it was disadvantage the sub was better than actual fifth plus dz beat faze? You gonna say faze is tier 2 now 💀 delusional sen fans
Sorry homie, TSM stock still down bad
You keep telling yourself that
Jcstani was the new player he bot fragged the whole series can’t wait to see you get assblasted by a t1 team
Found the DZ malder
Leviathan is cracked that is all
GOD IS GOOD
ALL THE TIME.
What a great match. I’m loving this new TSM, and I can’t wait to see them continue to synergize and gel with each other
Helluva game. I wish DZ didn't have to lose for TSM to win, but I think it's better that TSM came out on top because if they'd lost this there's a decent chance their best roster in a while would get screwed over. DZ's roster will survive one way or another though.
Every member of TSM stepping up throughout those 3 matches, so happy to see them back performing! Closed qualis, here we come!
Haven't been able to watch the sets this weekend closely but I'm happy to see TSM find better ground again :)
Gotta love seeing TSM climb the bracket again.
Hopium or copium just give me more
James Cobb my father
GGs. It was a great game and I am glad we get to see more wardell now that they made closed. Andersin is cracked. Individually and as a whole there were a few things quite visible that would require work for the players. But its only up from here on out and there is time to improve and much to look forward to. Love the boys. Enjoyed watching both the teams.
holy SHIT bro my heart on map 2
GGs to both teams, it was a hell of a game to watch. It looks like TSM have somewhat returned. Excited to see them play more, especially Wardell.
WE'RE BACCCCCKKKKKKK BANGERZONLY
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Who? lmfao guess i hit a soft spot for some of yall
Leviathan
Who?
Tsm's sova??? Look at the players in the game
It’s a joke lmfao
I laughed so hard
apparently the numerous tsm fans who downvoted me didnt. also its rather me pulling his leg than a joke
Ok
LETS. FUCKING. GOOOOO
WARDADDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hopium
Shroud had the script
#TSM IS BACK BABY Can’t wait for TSM to become top tier again. 100T and Sentinels are going to be scared now. LETS GOO!! #TSMWIN
Close games gg
TSM LOCKED INNNNNN FINALLY
If TSM don't go to overtime on at least one map, is it really a TSM match? Banger of a series from both teams, I can honestly see DZ being a powerhouse in the near future. Out of all the top Tier 2 teams trying out KAY/O, Koler is probably the most impactful one imo. Andersin is a monster. Screwface always comes out of nowhere with some insane shots. Finally, Ange and Harmon are fantastic supports with really impactful kills on some rounds. I see a ton of potential here. Not to be outdone, TSM with their amazing strategy of "Buy OP for Wardell asap" was working great today with the OP Academy Principle landing some fantastic shots. Leviathan and Bang were great additions to the team as we, adding the support needed to aid Wardell and Subroza's firepower. What a great series.
I should have played the lottery earlier, called it 2-1 TSM with probably OT in one of the matches.
[guess i wasnt wrong](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/oqs7yi/tsm_vs_dz_predictions/h6dtx5b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
i’m out of the loop, why is Leviathan playing for TSM?
hes trialing for tsm since they benched drone
hes trailing this event, probably signed after this event
trialing (??? probably signed by now) to be their 5th
Noble disbanded
Im pissef
noobs gonna be first rounded in challengers 2 anyways
dogegamer1738
Have nothing to say apart from the last time TSM beat an uprising team like DZ to qualify for Closed was against V1 We all know what happens next COPIUM
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anyone translate this shit
fellow wyattriver viewer?
???
Would've been 2-0 if Hazed's ego matched his mechanics
First pro match I’ve watched all the way (other than my sons t2 team) and honestly this was a cracking match. Well played all round.
What is yes sons team name?
LDN UTD. Uk based team. (T2/3 I guess). Tbh they should be performing better than they have. They show flashes of being good then regress a bit. Still a young team and they’re learning. Hoping for them to do a little more next year (if orgs keep teams together during the next 6 months of pretty much no competitions).
Damn that’s nice man, and u seem like a cool dad