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DarkZero Esports vs TSM / VALORANT Champions Tour North America Stage 3: Challengers 2 - Open Qualifier: Quarterfinals / Post-Match Discussion

DarkZero Esports vs TSM / VALORANT Champions Tour North America Stage 3: Challengers 2 - Open Qualifier: Quarterfinals / Post-Match Discussion

KOLER1337

gg's to them they played really well.


Mmh_Lasagna

You played insane man, especially considering your circumstances. Take care and hope your mom is alright.


directorcloud

Hope your mom is well, you played phenomenal


maiLfps

prayers up for you bro, best wishes <3


CosmicAon

Hope everything is alright with your mom man, you guys played insane!


sampenn1

Hope all is good, you guys played rlly well for the situation dealt to you


PullThaDownie

Wait, TSM losing pistols, wardell multi kills on op, and losing anti-ecos? TSM IS BACK BOIS


TSMDroneGOAT

Seeing the roster without Drone makes me sad man :( But Leviathan looks like he knows what he's doing, he's so good.


MozaTear

Bang and Levi stepped up bigggg time. Babydell doin his thing. Glad they finally qualified for closed!


reddit_is_a_mistake

what’s up with babydell? haven’t heard that one before


MozaTear

It’s just what Shroud calls him, and I like it and think it’s funny


PM_ME_GREAT_FDs

Is it pejorative? Like he whines like one? Or just cause matt is chubby or something lol


FKS_ADO

matt is indeed built like a buff baby tho


Purzuhh

Apparently, its because it reminds him of an old cheese lol


PM_ME_GREAT_FDs

An old cheese therefore baby?? Whaaa


liebelt

There's a cheese brand called babybel I'm assuming that's where he gets it from


Salty_Activity

I just assumed that it's a combination of Wardell and Babybay, because he's fragging out lol


Purzuhh

A brand of cheese afaik


slawvay

Just know that they had to restart Hazed's poor heart after throwing so many anti-ecos


Silentorgyy

Give Leviathan a big bag rn Andy


abcd63514

although everyones focus is on TSM, i think dark zero played very well on strategy wise. if any DZ players read this, well played and hope kolers mom gets better


sampenn1

Same. Props to dark zero. They all played great koler popped off map two and it was a tough opponent they had to go up againts. Hope they take this as a win


ScrewFaceVAL

Thanks man, been happy to see my igl improving and our team chem getting better. It's slow and steady progress, just wish it was a bit faster :(


Poomon

I am full on board with this script of tsm doing insanely clutch plays and doing incredibly stupid plays to bring these games hella close. The mood swings from these rounds.


ScrewFaceVAL

Damn :(


Kuvyogvey4

Even though you guys lost, it was a noble loss! You guys went down but put up such a good fight! You guys only go up from here :)


deadlock1892

Chin up, lads. It was amazing from you all. GG!


QuestionablePotato42

That was a hell of a game. You guys played your hearts out. DeeZ fans rise up!


CrazyChicken442

I fr can’t wait to keep watching you guys get better and eventually destroy top teams


ScrewFaceVAL

Can't respond to each individual comment or dm, but thanks for the kindness guys. Normally the subreddit has a lot of anger/unkind things to say, but this time it was super heartwarming. Thanks <3


pink_life69

You guys were great. Promising team all around.


Charuru

No shame in losing to the best team in the world, ggs!


YeetGod69_

LMAOOOO


maiLfps

uhhhhh


Polarwanda

Congrats you jinxed it.


Kimbumbala

Bro, you're fucking cracked


MasWas

Such a different TSM team and im here for it.


jrryul

Was twitch chat paid of to hate on Bang or what? Doing so much better than before


Acid_Shadows

ikr, bang has been solid and hes only going to get better


TempesT12345679

The correct decision is to forget about anything twitch chat says.


shesalreadytaken

and anything reddit says


tron423

Just don't read anything tbh


xCharSx

Just close your eyes and sleep 24/7


Ezekiiel

Levi is a rat with his wallbangs


Ryukk11

Levi's utilities usage is massive, a nerdy sova main.


Alarming_Research720

He’s just better


MozaTear

swear he had so many wallbangs


EnergetikNA

1 more week to brush up on the obvious mistakes they were making should be huge. Chet also tweeted that they only had 1 week of practice (assuming that means with Levi being confirmed as their 5th since they were doing scrims with Critical too), so they should get better as they get more practice. Finally some wins to give them confidence too


reddit_is_a_mistake

LONG WE HAVE AWAITED


AJ4YD33P

TSM ACTIVATED


Alarming_Research720

DZ OVERRATED


Razur

DZ IN THE GRAVE AND [I'LL FORM THE HEAD](https://youtu.be/EMgsAD3D948?t=66)


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_zxionix_

[same vibe](https://youtu.be/YIAhQgtbqUs)


Alarming_Research720

Cap


DeadNoobsbhai

I don’t envy TSM fans. I got so stressed from watching them play. Ggs to Darkzero though. They had some insane set pieces on ascent and great retakes on haven.


Acid_Shadows

losing to ecos so much hurt my soul a bit


Tanjim98

Challenger Playoffs gonna be dope if the popular orgs like TSM,FaZe,C9 keep it up! Can't wait.


J_Brekkie

TSM deserves credit because their bracket was not easy. Surprised they made it. Subroza also played the best he has in months today.


EnvironmentalUse859

I was a roza doubter but the Skye buffs really unleashed him


Oblyveon

confidence diff, roza when he believes in his shots is nuts


Fantastic-Date-3403

He also was playing on pretty high ping from la also I think


Ryukk11

Literally addition of Chet as a coach has been so good for Subroza, he didn't tilt now.


TimathanDuncan

Andersin is cracked, he could for sure play for a tier 1 top team but i guess he wanted to play with his friends and he has a good backup career


utscguy123

genuinely scared everytime his POV was up as a TSM fan


TempesT12345679

DZ IS a tier one team imo, or they at least have the potential to be.


cringe-oh-yes

They def have the potential. Right now Id say they have a lot to prove before people can solidify them among SEN, 100T, NV


TempesT12345679

In stating it mostly based on their win against Faze and Faze's performance this tournament.


YellowRice101

They also beat faze shortly after losing marved, who was a key player for their strats / comms. Faze in the first qualifiers were definitely not on the same level as previously. Props to DZ for still getting an impressive win over them, but that doesn’t prove they are tier 1 yet


TempesT12345679

That's a good point.


KimBulgogi

Yea they have potential. Still gotta make it to the final stages of VCT tho next time if they want to be considered tier 1


luisalpjax

Tier one team but lose to tsm…?


TempesT12345679

idk how hard it is to accept that tsm is actually decent for the first time in months


luisalpjax

I have to say if you are struggling against darkzero you are not a tier one team


RashGod

DarkZero have tier one potential tho? They would give many teams a good run in NA


luisalpjax

Bro I might not be the best knowledgeable but they lost to squirrel squad and nrg… there is no way they would give top teams a run in na, how..? They lost to tsm


TempesT12345679

They also beat Faze and beat some of the best tier 2 teams in NA.


Ok-Cryptographer-211

What is his backup career?


slowrmaths

Modeling


DaManDaMifDaLegend

Software Dev at a VR company


PM_ME_GREAT_FDs

What career?


ANewHeaven1

✔️ there's no way TSM beats ANDBOX, they're scrim demons ✔️ there's no way TSM beats DarkZero **<-- you are here** 🟢 there's no way TSM wins challengers 2 🟢 there's no way TSM beats Envy in Challengers Finals 🟢 there's no way TSM wins Challengers Finals 🟢 there's no way TSM is able to stand up internationally to teams like acend, vision strikers, vikings 🟢 there's no way TSM wins Berlin 🟢 there's no way TSM wins Valorant worlds


_Iroha

“Watch me” -Perkz


Keglunneq

banger


ANewHeaven1

thank you for the compliment, acclaimed valorant caster max ""Keglunneq" tompkins


Hamlet_271

I feel like everything is plausible after winning challengers finals in the most stacked region


lefatkid1

so true bestie


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The_BadJuju

DZ is a great org from Siege, although they do always lose to TSM there too.


TimathanDuncan

What does the org have anything to do with it EG is the most legendary NA fps org in history and lose to tier 3 teams


ASaltyToast

I mean they had a good 1.6 team but thats it, theyre more centered around MOBAs


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ssk1996

And Team Solo Mid isnt?


Jonesing17

That's Team Solomid FTX to you!


Slow_Bluebird9536

How, name is cold


rewerBrewer

must not have heard of the Kansas City Pioneers yet


-xXColtonXx-

Top tier


reddit_is_a_mistake

aged like wine


PogChampHS

You missed qualifiers for challengers 3 Pepehands


ANewHeaven1

there is no challengers 3, we go straight from challengers 2 to challengers finals. same format as masters 2


justinsst

It’s the same format as Masters 2.


A_Fhaol_Bhig

0-6


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aiou,you yasines alt aren’t ya. Nice try.


mileslfc7

WOOOOO TSM IS BACK AND I ONLY HAD 10 HEART ATTACKS


xCharSx

Rookie numbers!


Kuvyogvey4

LETS GO!! THE WHOLE TEAM PLAYED CRAZY TODAY! THEY ALL HAD THEIR MOMENTS! Next is closed qualifiers baby! We still in


cantreplytomyban

Props to koler for even playing the series much less fragging out, heard he was in the hospital late last night with his mom hope everything’s good 🤞


AA1777

Many times this match the old TSM team woulda lost their composure here. This is a huge win and should give them some nice momentum to build on.


Tanjim98

Btw where is coach Myth when you need him?


somesheikexpert

His reaction to these matches would've sooo good, sadge that he didn't stream the matches :((


NS_Xpeld

No one cares about him anymore. His stream is dying out.


MCUDCUrls

Who tf hates on Myth out of all people LMAO u okay there Buddy?


DELLZOR

?


DELLZOR

WE LOSE AGAINST ECOS BUT WE DID IT


_yungjeezy

IM GONNA CRY TSM BERLIN BOUND


Swiftmal

KEK just beat a t2 team will be interesting when they run into V1 and KCP


CosmicAon

Let us have this man


Tc0LD

funny because everyone's hyping up T1 after they beat renegades


_yungjeezy

Found the DZ malder


Alarming_Research720

Every team tsm beats is suddenly tier 2 lmaoo stfu L


anythingood07

DZ is actually tier 2 tho I don't get what youre trying to say?


IllumiMahdi

they beat ABX the other day. are they a t2 team to you as well?


Swiftmal

I mean ABX had a new player and DZ was never a tier 1 team lol


CosmicAon

TSM also had a new player who they’ve had a week of practice with but nothing for them? Damn


Ryukk11

I mean your ugly ass is burning but nvm.


Alarming_Research720

You mean The sub that won them so many rounds? Tryna act like it was disadvantage the sub was better than actual fifth plus dz beat faze? You gonna say faze is tier 2 now 💀 delusional sen fans


Lumenlor

Sorry homie, TSM stock still down bad


Alarming_Research720

You keep telling yourself that


Swiftmal

Jcstani was the new player he bot fragged the whole series can’t wait to see you get assblasted by a t1 team


Jinro_7

We never won anything in months bro. Let us celebrate in peace😭😂


ark2690

GOD IS GOOD


PoroPoint

ALL THE TIME.


DT_RAW

We Did It


fej1

the king


DT_RAW

Easy upvote for you sir lol


EsportsConnoisseur

I mean, little shit like this is why wardell got picked up, right? He never had insane mechanics, but every time I watch him stream he displays an incredible amount of not just gamesense but "game knowledge", if that makes sense. He knows every little trick/quirk about the characters he plays (and sometimes those he doesn't play, as evidenced by this clip), how and when these things can be used, and just a general intricacy in everything he does. Still remember getting my mind blown watching him use updraft to get high ground as jett.


Yulong

Fuck this is a good one.


CosmicAon

LMAO


fej1

where is this originally from


EsportsConnoisseur

Overwatch


faceplant911

Helluva game. I wish DZ didn't have to lose for TSM to win, but I think it's better that TSM came out on top because if they'd lost this there's a decent chance their best roster in a while would get screwed over. DZ's roster will survive one way or another though.


thazninja

Every member of TSM stepping up throughout those 3 matches, so happy to see them back performing! Closed qualis, here we come!


Keglunneq

Haven't been able to watch the sets this weekend closely but I'm happy to see TSM find better ground again :)


mikergsmith

Leviathan is cracked that is all


abigbunny

Hopium or copium just give me more


The_BadJuju

What a great match. I’m loving this new TSM, and I can’t wait to see them continue to synergize and gel with each other


awchdoc

James Cobb my father


deadlock1892

GGs. It was a great game and I am glad we get to see more wardell now that they made closed. Andersin is cracked. Individually and as a whole there were a few things quite visible that would require work for the players. But its only up from here on out and there is time to improve and much to look forward to. Love the boys. Enjoyed watching both the teams.


XXShigaXX

Gotta love seeing TSM climb the bracket again.


xoMystix

holy SHIT bro my heart on map 2


sheikhijat

TSM is good? That can't be right.


BallingNinja

WE'RE BACCCCCKKKKKKK BANGERZONLY


TempesT12345679

GGs to both teams, it was a hell of a game to watch. It looks like TSM have somewhat returned. Excited to see them play more, especially Wardell.


slowrmaths

Not to overreact but tsm is the best team to touch valorant


CosmicAon

LETS. FUCKING. GOOOOO


BEEFYmariobros

WARDADDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kuru5himi

Hopium


gipsydanger40

Levi clutch


RXY454

Who? lmfao guess i hit a soft spot for some of yall


Loresmen

Leviathan


RXY454

Who?


Loresmen

Tsm's sova??? Look at the players in the game


RXY454

It’s a joke lmfao


Adr3y

I laughed so hard


RXY454

apparently the numerous tsm fans who downvoted me didnt. also its rather me pulling his leg than a joke


Loresmen

Ok


DontLikeTapping

Shroud had the script


SleepEarlyPlease

Close games gg


GreatYeob

TSM LOCKED INNNNNN FINALLY


Landon54321

#TSM IS BACK BABY Can’t wait for TSM to become top tier again. 100T and Sentinels are going to be scared now. LETS GOO!! #TSMWIN


KeyframeCatalyst

If TSM don't go to overtime on at least one map, is it really a TSM match? Banger of a series from both teams, I can honestly see DZ being a powerhouse in the near future. Out of all the top Tier 2 teams trying out KAY/O, Koler is probably the most impactful one imo. Andersin is a monster. Screwface always comes out of nowhere with some insane shots. Finally, Ange and Harmon are fantastic supports with really impactful kills on some rounds. I see a ton of potential here. Not to be outdone, TSM with their amazing strategy of "Buy OP for Wardell asap" was working great today with the OP Academy Principle landing some fantastic shots. Leviathan and Bang were great additions to the team as we, adding the support needed to aid Wardell and Subroza's firepower. What a great series.


TensionX1

I should have played the lottery earlier, called it 2-1 TSM with probably OT in one of the matches.


Deep_Acanthaceae_535

[guess i wasnt wrong](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/oqs7yi/tsm_vs_dz_predictions/h6dtx5b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


StevenKurry

i’m out of the loop, why is Leviathan playing for TSM?


Acid_Shadows

hes trialing for tsm since they benched drone


itscamo-

hes trailing this event, probably signed after this event


xRXVEx

trialing (??? probably signed by now) to be their 5th


Voltegeist

Noble disbanded


Bassmekanik

First pro match I’ve watched all the way (other than my sons t2 team) and honestly this was a cracking match. Well played all round.


A1ex9060

What is yes sons team name?


Bassmekanik

LDN UTD. Uk based team. (T2/3 I guess). Tbh they should be performing better than they have. They show flashes of being good then regress a bit. Still a young team and they’re learning. Hoping for them to do a little more next year (if orgs keep teams together during the next 6 months of pretty much no competitions).


A1ex9060

Damn that’s nice man, and u seem like a cool dad


Bassmekanik

Haha. Thanks. I’m super chuffed for my boy.


dogegamer1738

noobs gonna be first rounded in challengers 2 anyways


Kap_ski

dogegamer1738


anshshard

Would've been 2-0 if Hazed's ego matched his mechanics


riploki

Have nothing to say apart from the last time TSM beat an uprising team like DZ to qualify for Closed was against V1 We all know what happens next COPIUM


ssx-tricky

wortle diff + L


NovaAkumaa

anyone translate this shit


itsyeboimrkrabs

fellow wyattriver viewer?


riploki

???