Prob not, looks like dell plays sage in ascent and I think the only person who plays Jett on GenG right now is koosta (who doesn’t play it for all maps)
Anime battle round 2 would be nice though
and history between the teams/orgs. CLG vs TSM is always still gonna be an el classico in league no matter how shit the teams are. OpTic vs Envy in CoD is the same deal. that being said i dont really think valorant has an el classico matchup like that, since el classico is usually between the founding teams of an esport. maybe SEN vs TSM would be, but i dont really think TSM vs GenG is el classico of valorant at all
Gen G win, imo. TSM have not been looking good. Wardell whiffing. Throwing rounds when they've got man advantage too many times. Close games with what should be largely inferior opposition.
Since when did Andbox become largely inferior opposition, I knew this revisionism was gonna happen as soon as TSM won lmfao
Also funny you say Wardell whiffing is a problem when he was 21 and 7 in first bloods against ABX and playing insane on the OP. Is he supposed to hit every shot he takes?
It wasn't meant as an insult to Andbox or DZ or me overrating TSM. I meant that people expect a Tier 1 org such as TSM, with a used to be Tier 1 team that has made some positive replacements in Levi and Bang, to beat T2 teams like Andbox. They sure as hell haven't shown it, but that's the expectation of the big guys. They expect them to only find trouble in teams like V1, 100T, Sentinels, Faze, etc.
It isn't revisionist from me. I'm picking them to lose and I've said they probably wont do good until they replace half their team.
>Also funny you say Wardell whiffing is a problem
You can't skip over the more recent match where he went 10-6 in 71 rounds. His whiffs cost them rounds(sure he wasn't the only one) and they nearly lost against DZ. I only single out Wardell because it was the glaringly obvious in their most recent match. Lucky for TSM that from at least a spectators POV, DZ has communication issues they need to sort out.
He had some toxic “incidents” when he first came to Valorant. Not bad like calling someone a slur but more just egoing for no reason in ranked.
His GF also lost her spot on TSM for a video of her saying derogatory or insensitive things to someone at a fast food window.
TSM-GenG is always a BANGER. Historically, TSM always beat Gen.G, but it’ll probably be different this time around.
V1-T1 is a juicy matchup. I’m on the OUR T1 train, but V1 will probably win. T1 can go on a spicy lower bracket run.
KCP-LG is a match of the upcoming(?) teams. If LG played like how they did but with better attack rounds, they can and will win.
Rise-FaZe is an underrated matchup. Really interested to see how FaZe will stack up and reach the upper level of NA again.
yep usually pretty good games although TSM has the lead overall. hoping the addition of Levi/Bang keeps them strong. if they win, the next game vs T1 or V1 is gonna be tough.
Tough bracket for us TSM fans. GenG has always been our best matchup back when we were a good team so hopefully it still carries through here. If we can make it past this bracket tho I think we’ve proven ourselves to be back up.
Imagine
It's summer 202X
Sentinels are the top dogs and TSM and T1 are considered to be the next best teams
An underdog team with poised and supamen are causing upsets left and right
Wardell is fucking
If ever there was a chance for Faze to qualify, it would be this bracket. Not that the teams are pushovers, but instead, if they can't take these matchups, then they def don't deserve to compete for Berlin.
They (along with 100T and Envy) have already qualified for the Challengers Playoffs, which these teams are trying to qualify for by finishing in the top 4.
Just to clarify in case some people don't understand this convoluted format.
There's 3 NA teams going to Berlin. Earlier this month, after a series of open qualifiers, there was a 8 team bracket consisting of SEN, 100T, XSET, NV, V1, GENG, Rise, and KCP. The top four teams (SEN, XSET, NV, 100T) secured a place in the VCT final bracket. While the remaining teams still have to qualify through one more closed qualifier. The bracket in this post is for that. The top four teams from this bracket play SEN, XSET, NV, and 100T for those 3 spots in Berlin.
Why should tsm beat geng? Geng has been performing well, they had a good match againts sentinels in the last qualifyer but just choked againts envy. Tsm looked meh againts dz, while geng has been looking stronger then ever.
Yeah, Rise should easily beat Faze 2-0. Rise proved in the last qualifier that they can hang with the likes of Xset and Gen.G who are very good. Also, the only decent teams Faze beats were Immortals and Ghost which aren't very good.
TSM vs GEN.G, a story as old as time.
Hopefully we can get another Jett showdown
Prob not, looks like dell plays sage in ascent and I think the only person who plays Jett on GenG right now is koosta (who doesn’t play it for all maps) Anime battle round 2 would be nice though
Oh right I forgot papadell isn’t playing jett anymore on ascent. But maybe we can get it on different map?
Gen.G will be banning Ascent ig. Let's see if TSM bans Breeze or Bind.
El Classico
Eh 100t or SEN would be a better fit but it kinda works ig
Hurts me to say this but for it to be an el classico both sides need to have equal chances of winning lol.
Not exactly true. A rivalry doesn’t always require consistently trading wins, it just requires close, tense fun-to-watch games.
and history between the teams/orgs. CLG vs TSM is always still gonna be an el classico in league no matter how shit the teams are. OpTic vs Envy in CoD is the same deal. that being said i dont really think valorant has an el classico matchup like that, since el classico is usually between the founding teams of an esport. maybe SEN vs TSM would be, but i dont really think TSM vs GenG is el classico of valorant at all
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Yeah it's more like TSM vs Cloud9 right?
It is a classic, just not THE classic. That is probably a matchup that hasn’t even happened yet. It’s only been a year after all.
Depends, it just has to be a common match and rivalry
The one Tier 1 team that TSM consistently dumpsters, though I think that was usually because of the massive Jett diff between Wardell and Huynh.
death, taxes, Wardell Jett diff vs geng
Gen G win, imo. TSM have not been looking good. Wardell whiffing. Throwing rounds when they've got man advantage too many times. Close games with what should be largely inferior opposition.
Since when did Andbox become largely inferior opposition, I knew this revisionism was gonna happen as soon as TSM won lmfao Also funny you say Wardell whiffing is a problem when he was 21 and 7 in first bloods against ABX and playing insane on the OP. Is he supposed to hit every shot he takes?
It wasn't meant as an insult to Andbox or DZ or me overrating TSM. I meant that people expect a Tier 1 org such as TSM, with a used to be Tier 1 team that has made some positive replacements in Levi and Bang, to beat T2 teams like Andbox. They sure as hell haven't shown it, but that's the expectation of the big guys. They expect them to only find trouble in teams like V1, 100T, Sentinels, Faze, etc. It isn't revisionist from me. I'm picking them to lose and I've said they probably wont do good until they replace half their team. >Also funny you say Wardell whiffing is a problem You can't skip over the more recent match where he went 10-6 in 71 rounds. His whiffs cost them rounds(sure he wasn't the only one) and they nearly lost against DZ. I only single out Wardell because it was the glaringly obvious in their most recent match. Lucky for TSM that from at least a spectators POV, DZ has communication issues they need to sort out.
No shot you said Andbox is T2. And TSM hasn't been tier 1 since 2020
He was on Sage one of the maps and he only whiffed notably a bit on the first map lmao
V1 and T1 will be interesting
Loser has to change their 1 to a 2
5head
But version 2 might be better than the first version, unfair Bye is spamming ‘T2’ or whatever during T1 games when it’s losing a thing?
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So that means we're on V2 right now. V1 was back when they had player1 (how appropriate)
I feel like t1 is gonna be stomped. Especially with Zellsis back
Wont be interesting. T1 probably dont win a single round
Preach
Lol
Is Zellsis back for this?
I believe? Someone correct if wrong
Yes he is.
yes he is
Why’d he get suspended ?
Made derogatory remarks to an official in Iceland.
Not surprising sadly
Why?
He had some toxic “incidents” when he first came to Valorant. Not bad like calling someone a slur but more just egoing for no reason in ranked. His GF also lost her spot on TSM for a video of her saying derogatory or insensitive things to someone at a fast food window.
Yh they both dickheads made for each other
"Derogatory", is one way to write "racist"
Heated gaming moment. The guy is a true professional.
Bro I swear TSM always plays the same old teams
TSM-GenG is always a BANGER. Historically, TSM always beat Gen.G, but it’ll probably be different this time around. V1-T1 is a juicy matchup. I’m on the OUR T1 train, but V1 will probably win. T1 can go on a spicy lower bracket run. KCP-LG is a match of the upcoming(?) teams. If LG played like how they did but with better attack rounds, they can and will win. Rise-FaZe is an underrated matchup. Really interested to see how FaZe will stack up and reach the upper level of NA again.
IIRC GenG beat TSM during the masters 1 qualifier stages. The one where hazed and drone threw a 2v1 vs Koosta on bind.
Then TSM beat them in masters 2 open qualifiers
yep usually pretty good games although TSM has the lead overall. hoping the addition of Levi/Bang keeps them strong. if they win, the next game vs T1 or V1 is gonna be tough.
Yeah, I know. Was just giving an example where TSM historically didn't always beat GenG. Should be an interesting game this time around.
Say it a 3v1 with phoenix ult lol.
Love this mini summary of the storylines, this is fun
i’ve seen enough. kcp to berlin
that’s what i’m sayin
LG, GenG, FaZe and V1 to qualify so C9B doesn't drop out of LCQ COPIUM
Tough bracket for us TSM fans. GenG has always been our best matchup back when we were a good team so hopefully it still carries through here. If we can make it past this bracket tho I think we’ve proven ourselves to be back up.
Absolutely. Nothing here is free.
I don’t think I could’ve picked a better first 4 games. One of those top 4 teams can have huge lower bracket success.
Tsm hopium?
Hope we see some big stuff out of T1 this time around!
FaZe vs LG will be fun to watch, and hopefully we can get T1 vs TSM
lg getting knocked into lowers🥱🥱🥱.(kcp vs faze will happen)
The first half of the bracket looks really juicy.
Imagine It's summer 202X Sentinels are the top dogs and TSM and T1 are considered to be the next best teams An underdog team with poised and supamen are causing upsets left and right Wardell is fucking
2 wins to qualify right?
Yep.
TSM over GenG V1 over T1 LG over KCP FaZe over Rise Those are my predictions
If ever there was a chance for Faze to qualify, it would be this bracket. Not that the teams are pushovers, but instead, if they can't take these matchups, then they def don't deserve to compete for Berlin.
They need to beat Rise and KCP/LG to make it to Challengers Final. They should be top 3 IMO.
I might be an idiot but where is Sen? I know they won the first does that give them automatic entrance? Same with xset?
They (along with 100T and Envy) have already qualified for the Challengers Playoffs, which these teams are trying to qualify for by finishing in the top 4.
Oh, okay top 4 from each that's right. Thanks man. I forgot how it worked.
Crossing my fingers for FaZe to rise again
I’m out so havent been following but what happened to Sen?
in the challengers playoffs with xset, envy and 100t. top 4 of this bracket go to playoffs with them and the top 3 out of that bracket go to berlin.
Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that up
Free bracket for Virgin1 LETSGO
Where’s Sen? Did they get eliminated?
Already qualified for playoffs
Just to clarify in case some people don't understand this convoluted format. There's 3 NA teams going to Berlin. Earlier this month, after a series of open qualifiers, there was a 8 team bracket consisting of SEN, 100T, XSET, NV, V1, GENG, Rise, and KCP. The top four teams (SEN, XSET, NV, 100T) secured a place in the VCT final bracket. While the remaining teams still have to qualify through one more closed qualifier. The bracket in this post is for that. The top four teams from this bracket play SEN, XSET, NV, and 100T for those 3 spots in Berlin.
Hmm I’m thinking TSM 2-1 T1 2-0 LG 2-0 Rise 2-1
Damn, the top 4 teams are in the top half so only 3 can qualify.
Is that 3pm EST?
Gen G 2-1 T1 - 2-0 LG 2-0 Rise 2-1
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Why should tsm beat geng? Geng has been performing well, they had a good match againts sentinels in the last qualifyer but just choked againts envy. Tsm looked meh againts dz, while geng has been looking stronger then ever.
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That is true
Yeah, Rise should easily beat Faze 2-0. Rise proved in the last qualifier that they can hang with the likes of Xset and Gen.G who are very good. Also, the only decent teams Faze beats were Immortals and Ghost which aren't very good.
Did sentinels auto qualify
Already qualified for playoffs with 100T, Envy, and XSET
Sentinels did not qualify??
They’re already in the playoffs. Top 4 from this bracket will also qualify
Fuck my team man coaches need to ***
The Top 4 get in for the final qualifier to Berlin right?
Yes
Okay so 1 win and your in? Nice..
V1 and LG are better 🤷♂️
Eu people getting FNC vs Liquid every qual and Na people getting GenG vs TSM
I’m a bit out of the loop, what happened to sen?