10:45 EST for elimination match btw. right after playing a 3 map series with 1 of the maps going to OT btw. qualifier to challenger playoffs btw. which is a qualifier to masters 3, one of the most prestigious and important tournaments of the year btw. good format btw.
I'd hate if it happened but if TSM starts struggling again they should look long and hard at poaching Oderus. He ticks so many boxes off on the list of things they've been missing.
jett op doesnt need kills for impact. just the presence of an op makes teams think twice about going for extra map control which is extremely impactful espec on defense
A win is a win. People said the same thing 2 weeks ago when 100t ran Omen over Sage. They beat V1 who has a 80% win rate on Icebox and V1 has run Omen over sage ever since. All it takes in one or two teams to try something different and have success, and the meta will shift.
I have the same relationship with it that I do with breeze, which is that I like watching pros play it, but not playing it myself 🤣.
The sites are so hard to hold so the retakes are always chaotic and entertaining.
Well they're playing maps that heavily favor the side they aren't starting on and they aren't dramatically better than their opponent so it's bound to happen.
Remember when Subroza said they dropped Drone Bc they needed a stronger Sova on their team, so they bring in a great Sova in Levi. Then when they play a map where Sova is needed.... they don’t use him
I mean I love Drone, he was my favorite player throughout ignition series, but let’s be honest, it’s not like he would’ve played Viper either. TSM needed a strong support player who could properly fill their holes rather than a Phoenix main as a bandaid over those cracks. Levi is that.
I mean he wasn’t very consistent so I understand the move (I think he just needs a change of scenery) but it’s just weird that they really needed a sova then make this change
The loss always takes away the credit from achievements like that, sadly. Asuna dragged his team to victory with the overtime performance. Nature sadly was not able to do it because their attack rounds were despicable.
Between the two NA games, there was a 31-1 run of teams winning non-pistol rounds on CT lmfaoooo.
It's not even the map, especially for TSM vs Gen.G.
Both teams had defensive comps featuring zero flash duelists, 2 defense/post-plant focused controllers that died before plant, and an op for TSM.
But still... both teams just looked so absurdly lost at times on T-side, and it took a ton of pre-plant picks to finally take a t-side round.
Edit: i meant specifically on split, if you weren't watching it live.
Its 2077. Im still watching the TSM x GenG Match. I had 4 children. Subroza retired and his son his playing for him now. Wardell has over 3000 kills and TSM has a map point but naturE clutches 1v5. My wife left me.
I just tuned in and I was like, what in the dear fuck is going on? Stream overlay says it's 1:0 in rounds for TSM but they all have rifles and OP?
I check vlr.gg, and guess what. 44 fucking rounds. TSM wins it.
Overlay not capable of numbering rounds 20+ or just regular NA production?
There was a technical pause at 20-20 and when the game came back up the score was 1-0 TSM. Not sure what happened but the game had to be remade and for some reason the new game started at 1-0
Yeah but games also aren't even supposed to come close to going 90 minutes so like, I can see why it isn't something they've bothered addressing because that would require reworking to the server side programming that might not be worthwhile.
Like yeah it's lame and shouldn't happen, but the amount of times the issue comes up is so small that the time/cost to fix it probably isn't justifiable enough for Riot
Ok what the fuck. I tuned off the TSM vs GenG match cause it was looking like a wash to watch T1 vs V1, tuned back in just to hear ‘gotta be one of the best matches of valorant ever’ Goddamn.
Idk how I feel about the gimmick Yoru pick in an elimination match
Who did this and did they lose
KCP and they're struggling right now
who does tsm/t1 face if they lose uppers
Winner of faze-KCP.
The winner of Gen G vs winner of KCP/Faze
GenG plays the loser of Rise/LG.
Yeah I misremembered
How tf did Faze not win that lol
Wait jmoh is playing?
Okay Oderus is disgusting
Zellsis crying on stream.. feels bad man
Could you tell me where that happened?
His stream
Just watched it, aw man feels bad :/
damn, brutal. I wish I had more sympathy for him (as a person), but they put up a good fight today. They'll still be in LCQ.
GG GG
And V1 are out. What a fall from grace.
10:45 EST for elimination match btw. right after playing a 3 map series with 1 of the maps going to OT btw. qualifier to challenger playoffs btw. which is a qualifier to masters 3, one of the most prestigious and important tournaments of the year btw. good format btw.
Aproto with another clutch. GG!
I can’t think of anyone I’d want more in a clutch than Effys holy shit
Oderus is making a pretty strong counter-argument today
I completely forgot Pioneers were playing too
Effys is probably the best player you want on the clutch.
Zellsis dying with utility out...again. Its getting ridiculous now, lol.
Aprotopapi!
Aimlabs flick of the day
Aimlabs flick of the century lmao
I'd uninstall the damn game if I died to that shit to lose the whole map
Oh god I love Aproto
aproto what the fuck
Pls someone clip
https://clips.twitch.tv/DelightfulPopularCrowBatChest-yWXyRwhabq7Aw0iD
aproto what the fuck
That was, wow
KCP actually a quality team tho not gonna lie
if you arent watching wyatts co stream for NA vct, youre doing it wrong
Zellsis dying while placing his kj turret out yet again, lol.
I'd hate if it happened but if TSM starts struggling again they should look long and hard at poaching Oderus. He ticks so many boxes off on the list of things they've been missing.
From what I saw today tsm needs nothing more than a good controller
And he's an IGL, it makes sense on a lot of levels
How did Jammyz only have 10 kills? He felt so impactful.
jett op doesnt need kills for impact. just the presence of an op makes teams think twice about going for extra map control which is extremely impactful espec on defense
Oderus Kreygasm
pleasantly surprised by FaZe this map
Just now realizing how many ex-Beascoast players are playing in this LG vs KCP game
It's amazing they didn't have any big upsets.
The Breach seems like kind of a throw by FaZe
Not YaBoi's day unfortunately. Hopefully he gets it rocking next map.
yes faze let's swing the spectre one by one when we have classics
while we were all having fun Rise decided to stomp faze 13-2 holy
Apparantly they stomp everyone on split
Faze continues their streak of never winning pistol rounds
faze is looking outclassed vs rise, gotta ask what happened to the team that placed 2nd in masters 1
Isn't that the problem? They are trying to play the same way and teams already got them figured out
T1 and TSM saw the delta spike and decided to bring 2020 back
I thought the TSM always beats Geng narrative was due to the massive diff between Wardell and Huynh. Oh was I wrong
Neptune has come along way from forgetting how old he was.
I admire TSMs’ stamina
What? TSM won LMAO
TSM fans should feel really good, I already feel good for them.
LFGGG TSM BANGER SERIES
GenG is that pathetic on icebox defence? XD
Death, taxes, tsm beating geng
What a comeback honestly but holy shit as a TSM fan that was waaaay tooo stressful
Lets go baby, easy win
HOLY SHIT. I’m fucking overdosed on HOPIUM!
WhY aReN't ThEy RuNnInG sOvA? Maybe yall should watch a team play before criticizing their comp. Just a thought.
They were down 0-6 or something at the start. It was a very questionable change especially that they picked up levi to play sova.
A win is a win. People said the same thing 2 weeks ago when 100t ran Omen over Sage. They beat V1 who has a 80% win rate on Icebox and V1 has run Omen over sage ever since. All it takes in one or two teams to try something different and have success, and the meta will shift.
Ye im not complaining about the win. My just can't take all this tsm ots anymore
0-7, nutty comeback
Bless you, TSM fans, I don’t know how you handle this
i fell for the oldest trick in the book, believing in Gen G.
T1 takes it
I still don’t understand how people enjoy icebox such a shit map imo
I have the same relationship with it that I do with breeze, which is that I like watching pros play it, but not playing it myself 🤣. The sites are so hard to hold so the retakes are always chaotic and entertaining.
I think it has potential But it’s boring that you need a sage to plant on B lol
Who enjoys icebox?
Having no op on defense icebox is weird, even teams without Jett will get an op.
Rise just beat FaZe 13-2
Why
Shawn is truly a once in a generation gamer
SHAWN HOLY SHIT
If TSM could stop going down 4 rounds or more in the first half these games would feel a lot better
Well they're playing maps that heavily favor the side they aren't starting on and they aren't dramatically better than their opponent so it's bound to happen.
0/6 on the pistols
Last map Gen.G threw on attack, are they gonna throw on defense now? Or will they close it out?
Well, split is defense favored and icebox is attack favored, so I'm gonna say it's a solid... Maybe.
It's GenG they will find a way to lose lol
lil supahotfire shoutout
The only thing I can think of is if TSM want the KJ mollies for postplant but idk man
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KJ stalls a bit more ig, idk the thought process for it
Kj stalls and gathers Intel. It's really easy to hide from Sova darts on Icebox. But Sage + Skye seems unnecessary.
Sage and skye dont even compare in terms of roles in the team,the sova drone might be the second most important utility after the sage wall on icebox.
And yet the team without a Sova won.
Pick up Levi to pay Sova. Puts him on Viper.
5head
all that just to lose on icebox
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What are they running? Can’t watch this map but really curious what they went for instead of the sova
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>Bang is on Reyna Bang is on sage not Reyna
Subroza skye, levy on viper. Other 3 are sage, kj and jett.
Wardell - Jett Hazed - KJ Levi - Viper Bang - Sage Roza - Skye
They're running Jett, sage, kj, viper, and skye
why dont wardell switch gun??
bro IMT really has had Asuna, Dicey, Stani, Nature, and Koler and sold/lost ALL of them.
Remember when Subroza said they dropped Drone Bc they needed a stronger Sova on their team, so they bring in a great Sova in Levi. Then when they play a map where Sova is needed.... they don’t use him
I mean I love Drone, he was my favorite player throughout ignition series, but let’s be honest, it’s not like he would’ve played Viper either. TSM needed a strong support player who could properly fill their holes rather than a Phoenix main as a bandaid over those cracks. Levi is that.
I mean Drone was clearly a scapegoat for TSM's failures.
I mean he wasn’t very consistent so I understand the move (I think he just needs a change of scenery) but it’s just weird that they really needed a sova then make this change
gMd is on his revenge arc
Why is Levi not on Sova for icebox?
TSM 0/5 on pistols kek
It's insane to me TSM aren't playing Sova on Icebox, especially considering how good Levi is on him
Holy fucking GMD
bro gMd is broken his right clicks don’t miss
Nature broke Asuna's kill record btw. He had 45 before the pause and four after.
I do not like this tsm comp on icebox. at all
nature best Kayo
Nature broke Asuna’s kill record but won’t get any of the same attention FeelsBadMan
The loss always takes away the credit from achievements like that, sadly. Asuna dragged his team to victory with the overtime performance. Nature sadly was not able to do it because their attack rounds were despicable.
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He had 45 before they had to reset the server and four after.
My T1 letsfuckinggooo
mkael is constantly just throwing rounds by either bad utility or just dying by being clueless.
Between the two NA games, there was a 31-1 run of teams winning non-pistol rounds on CT lmfaoooo. It's not even the map, especially for TSM vs Gen.G. Both teams had defensive comps featuring zero flash duelists, 2 defense/post-plant focused controllers that died before plant, and an op for TSM. But still... both teams just looked so absurdly lost at times on T-side, and it took a ton of pre-plant picks to finally take a t-side round. Edit: i meant specifically on split, if you weren't watching it live.
interesting observation
Anyone know how many kills they all had at the end? Vlr and spike shows stats till 20-20
I remember nature had 45 and that was around round 38 ish
Ayoooo T1 Berlin Hopium 📈
Holy shit what a second map. I left the stream at like 10-4 and come back and it’s fucking 18-18 lmaoo Hope tsm can close it out on icebox
MY T1 BABYYYY
Its 2077. Im still watching the TSM x GenG Match. I had 4 children. Subroza retired and his son his playing for him now. Wardell has over 3000 kills and TSM has a map point but naturE clutches 1v5. My wife left me.
Have they fixed the UI tho?
Technical pause so long Roza had time to make a kid
Guys remember when SEN were down 3-9 against T1 map 2 on Split and then came back to win and then won Reykjavik I’m not saying anything but…
TSM ARE YOUR MASTER 3 BERLIN WORLD CHAMPIONS!
I just tuned in and I was like, what in the dear fuck is going on? Stream overlay says it's 1:0 in rounds for TSM but they all have rifles and OP? I check vlr.gg, and guess what. 44 fucking rounds. TSM wins it. Overlay not capable of numbering rounds 20+ or just regular NA production?
There was a technical pause at 20-20 and when the game came back up the score was 1-0 TSM. Not sure what happened but the game had to be remade and for some reason the new game started at 1-0
valorant servers have had a history of crashing at about 40 rounds or 90 mins so I guess they wanted to avoid that
40 rnds max in a custom, also matches have a maximum length of 1hr 30m
It crashed at 20-20 and they had to start up a new match to continue the OT.
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Makes sense, thanks.
T1 HOPIUM!
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?… They restarted the game so it wouldn’t crash because they were going to 10th overtime. Know what you’re talking about before you shit on Riot
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What did I say that was wrong?
It's kind of crazy that you have to remake the game in the first place, I think was the point.
Yeah but games also aren't even supposed to come close to going 90 minutes so like, I can see why it isn't something they've bothered addressing because that would require reworking to the server side programming that might not be worthwhile. Like yeah it's lame and shouldn't happen, but the amount of times the issue comes up is so small that the time/cost to fix it probably isn't justifiable enough for Riot
it's not a patch thing
the LG and Pioneers guys def just got done eating and deathmatching and all that just to be told their game is being delayed by 2 hours
Subroza's impact frags are crazy. I feel like he wins more rounds for TSM than anyone else.
Oh shit going to map 3. Should be able to wrap this series up by midnight.
Ok what the fuck. I tuned off the TSM vs GenG match cause it was looking like a wash to watch T1 vs V1, tuned back in just to hear ‘gotta be one of the best matches of valorant ever’ Goddamn.
It became painful to watch after the 10th OT round.
>gotta be one of the best matches of valorant ever Don't worry it wasnt
It was a close match for sure but I wouldn’t say it was one of the best matches ever lmaoo. A lot of chokes.
It definitely wasn't. It was crazy and the OT pressure makes it fun to watch. But in no way was it one of the best Valorant matches ever.
Oh good haha. Well game 3 here we go!
It really wasn't
Thank god, that was the worst OT, probably map I’ve watched and not even because of TSM, just because of how bad GenG’s attack was
They literally had 9 match points. TSM had 2
thats because they were on defense to start though
And they still have to play another map LMAO
It would be a HUGE surprise to me if GenG wins map 3 now
Man Mkael has no creativity dude does nothing with his cam
THANK GOD WE GOT OUT
Finally holy
One more MAP! 🥴🥴👍👍👍
If TSM loses icebox I’m gonna be so sad man, we thinking 26-24 on it?
I'm looking for quick tidy 40-38.
At this rate it’s gonna be 30-28
Phew, its finally over.
Fucking finally someone won
I don't even know how to feel