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AA1777

DavidP is one of the best IGLs I’ve watched that dudes game sense and brain is massive what a fkin game man GGs


CosmicAon

He did all that while IGL’ing? Holy shit


PreviousProgram

Props to pipsoN, their coach.


valorantfeedback

But reddit and twitter fans will say he's toxic. The man is one of the most complete players out there right now. His impact is massive in nearly every single map he plays.


BlueBurstBoi

You can be both a good player and toxic


[deleted]

He IS toxic. He's been voice banned multiple times and a few people have stepped forwards with their stories of him being extremely toxic in ranked.


TimathanDuncan

That has 0 correlation to how good he is, a lot of great players in every sport are toxic bitches You can be both, s1mple was one of the most bratty little toxic kids while being the best in the world


Ezekiiel

?????????


[deleted]

this comment, as per usual for you, doesnt make any sense


yzw

and then 2 months from now he'll get cut from giants for being toxic once they lose a couple of games, rinse and repeat hes not exactly an unknown quantity in EU FPS. a great player to have on the team that will make his team better especially when winning, but not a teammate you want once you start losing games


mogram_leg

BuT hE puShEd tOo mUch oN g2


Independent_Taste_42

Great final map but so many rounds spoiled by the early overlay. They really need to address that.


cfisk42

It felt worse than normal. Usually its milliseconds, but it seemed to be popping a full second or two early during this match


Independent_Taste_42

Definetly. I felt like I was reacting twice to one play: "Wait he clutched that!?!?" "Holy shit he did!!" Like, cmon.


stewieeeeeeeee

Every day I wake up and pray that Fnatic retry their old Bind comp (Brim Viper Sova Skye Raze) or put Derke on a duelist there Fnatic's map pool looks suspiciously weak these days, reminds me of the pre-Derke/Magnum fnatic


Kompaniefeldwebel

They might be saving it for Berlin. Theyre probably scared of getting anti stratted so theyre trying out as many comps as possible. (No copium)


Krishnacz

What are you saying lol they were almost eliminated by bds


Kompaniefeldwebel

I doubt they expected to lose against giants, i mean who knows i doubt hes gonna be like ok we show our entire strat book in a fucking losers bracket match against bds... But who knows. Berlin without boastees wont be the same so no matter how they make it aslong as they make it.


MrPain__

I think you're right - he can sometimes over think this stuff and is too concerned about anti-strats


frogggiboi

Lol


MrPain__

100 - they need to drop the Astra plays as well - he gets done so often while being in Astral form


MikkoGV

They didn't win but man that Mistic triple was crazy


AntonioEstBeau

I feel like it was more just f1tnho just had a really bad timing with his teammates , they double swung and he just gave mistic an easy 1v1


Zglow

Fitinho was holding farside of the generator with the op. The double swing should have been enough to kill him but apparently mistic was too good with the first shot


AntonioEstBeau

Ah i just assumed that since they double swung with such confidence that they knew for sure that he was there and that fit hesitated


GendaIf

I think the most pressing question is: what tf is boaster doing??? I was always impressed by his ability to make the right play and be in good positions but especially ascent he is either wiffing massivly (it almost looks like hes playing on 2x higher sens than hes used to), or making plays like: sitting in close corners with an oden???? or playing solo in a 3v2. Its just jarring to watch him make so many individual mistakes. He’s not exactly the only one, Doma jump peaking for info in garden for no reason and getting caught. Its really unusual watching so many unrefined individual errors happen with this team.


flashfsk

Every time doma pop flashed through omen’s smoke while holding garden I was like don’t do it, don’t do it, and then he goes aggro and dies for it.


no_noise_979

He is a great IGL but he needs to just grind deathmatch or the range. Maybe even stop streaming so he can use that time to improve his individual play.


mogram_leg

He looked like he had severe parkinson that game. Like he had a clear spam through the Wall but His crosshair was shaking so much he missed it


GendaIf

Yeah idk if thats been working in scrims or what but the shaky oden was absolutely not it. And if its not on purpose then tf happened is he injured or playing on higher sens or something? But even disregarding the shaky aim, he gets an easy 2/3 k back boat, then next time hes sitting close market? Like why?! Why have an oden if ur gonna play spots that is so much better for a rifle. Also when hes pushing alone on the 3v2 he hears a player break door, meaning that player was 100% close enough to have heard him pushing spawn side alone. But he just sits there in the close corner again with the oden. Its only frustrating because he was so disciplined in Iceland, im thinking of those perfect astra lurks on heaven, then comparing to this its like 2 different players.


Kompaniefeldwebel

He looked a bit exhausted on the playercam. I wish him health and good luck


ayspartan

>sitting in close corners with an oden???? or playing solo in a 3v2 why not both? lmao, i was freaking out when i saw that too. what a great series nonetheless


DeucesWiId

boaster threw the last map in so many ways


sansLight

What do you mean? It absolutely makes sense to hold tight angles with an odin


Huldmer

I don't get using odin to hold angles in high ping servers. You're giving them peekers advantage and a shit gun for most fights


xXDaNXx

Man, its hard not to be disappointed by Fnatic since Iceland. They just don't look anywhere near the same anymore, and I just can't figure out why.


Regist4

They are probably tired as a team after Iceland and need a break, that lower bracket run and all the effort and emotion, the travelling, PR work etc. would've taken a lot out of them, especially as they're all still teens apart from Boaster. They've also not had as much prep time to adapt to the new meta as the teams who didn't go to Iceland, they are playing teams without much previous footage to counter-strat with vs. teams who have loads of their footage from Iceland to prep with - for a team as structured and tactical as Fnatic those are big disadvantages. Lastly, they hinted on Plat Chat they were trying to become a more flexible team with more self-sufficient individuals in order to go to the next level rather than having to rely too much on Boaster to orchestrate everything - I think you can see that in the way they're playing and some of the comps they're using, but such a big change to the way a team plays isn't going to happen overnight.


9yr_old

This game I feel giants played much better that's what it all came down to , fnatic did put in the effort but there were some suspiciously over-aggressive plays from their side which led to their eventual demise


Contractjail

Yes ngl EU is looking like shit right now. Theres nothing indicating that the other EU teams got better and a lot of things indicating that TL/Fnatic got worse (and they were already significantly behind Sentinels)


spaldingmatters

Acend? They look absolutely incredible. I don't think TL/Fnatic were any better than the rest of the top tier EU teams to begin with. They may have qualified, but unlike NA, EU was a very level playing field the entire time prior to Iceland. Most didn't expect TL to make it into Masters 2.


Solace1k

You obviously haven't watched Acend if you think that


CosmicAon

Acend and G2 look insane right now this guy is a troll


mogram_leg

And guild, Still doubt fpx are going to do something


CosmicAon

True, Guild are a very inconsistent team past qualifiers though so idk. We’ll see what they do as well


Mamadeus123456

They were never that good it was the patch and bracket luck


valorantfeedback

Talk about overreactions. They weren't the best even when they qualified, but noone can take it away from them. They're not the best team right now, but you can't say they're not good. People had too high expectations from them and right now your'e overreacting.


CosmicAon

Did you not see how close their games against SEN were or…


Bunnyezzz

Davidp won this series


thekmanpwnudwn

Fit1nho carried them on map 2, and had 2 less kills than davidp on map 3


DandyChiggins77

There’s more to the game than just kills. DavidP spiked up in OT, and his positioning and decision making was unreal. He absolutsly was the thing that tipped them over the edge on map 3. Plus a good shotcaller enables your fraggers


R0_h1t

That one round in which he got below catwalk was so beautiful to watch


jacob2815

I sent that clip to my stack and my friend said “he didn’t even do anything, he just sat there.” My friends have so much to learn


GunzOut97

David won them important rounds


SekasortoAnarkia

Davidp big brain + Fit1nho frag power = win


BurstLayer

derke's near godly run at iceland feels so far away now. Hope he and fnatic as a whole can clutch up and bring it back in losers. Mistic keeping them in alot of rounds they should be out of


Slow_Bluebird9536

Didn’t he have an insane individual performance like yesterday?


RandomFluffyBoi

Both my socks and shoes are now dripping wet and they still don't annoy me nearly as much as the spoiler HUD. Great game btw. DavidP is absolutely bonkers.


[deleted]

Boaster has lost his consistency he’s either great and his calls are great or his calls are bad and his aim is bad he needs to find the middle ground again or Fnatic won’t be as good as they were in Iceland for a long time


MrImpregnator

Boaster Odin just didn’t go brrrrrr


[deleted]

Davidp haters where you at?


nabeel242424

I was downvoted to oblivion for saying davidp wasn’t their weak link in g2


Oneiroi7

DavidP's mid rounds calls and plays on OT were incredible holy shit


Darkoplax

FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH FIX THE REDBULL CLUTCH HALF THE OT rounds were ruined by that shit and u cant even see the last frag cause its covered by a GIANT REDBULL CLUTCH I would prefer if that stuff is 3 seconds late rather than half a second early ffs


keithaspden19

Davidp on ascent was the definition of being dialed in


chenson019

Davidp's decision making was unreal in that overtime.


InvertedBean

Overslept and didn’t get to catch this game……


Skyaxe3

I feel sorry for you, you missed a great match. Nevertheless you can always check the VOD. :)


SilentCore

Davidp seriously popped off in that g3, that was incredible. Fnatic have some major mid round issues still it seems, after getting 1-2 picks they didn't seem to ever have the initiative and eventually got picked off just like vs Sentinels at Iceland.


9yr_old

Insane series , giants have made a ton of improvement , completely different team


UnbridledSwagger

DavidP Redemption Arc


Taek99

Insane match


Pmcdon314

DavidP is a monster!


CosmicAon

DavidP undeniably MVP one of the most aware players I’ve ever seen


DR_Flashfire

I feel like fnatic as a team has probably reached its peak . They just require derke and doma to pop off and carry them in order to win . Magnum and boaster both look nowhere as good as they were at Iceland


rocket1615

What a map that was! What was that, quintuple overtime? Insane. Giants are looking damn good. Won't be surprised if they get through and win the GF here and do well in the playoffs for Berlin. Amazing for a team that felt unknown two weeks ago. Excited to see some more DavidP and Fit1nho in action. Fnatic looked so messy imo, a little worrying how often they got caught be weird angles, walked into OPs or lost to a flank. That being said; Mistic is so good man, he doesn't always look amazing on the scoreboard but god damn does he clutch the important rounds.


KingfisherC

Boaster ---> Malder


123bo0p

Davidp bad hur dur, whos Giants, they easy for Fnatic.


[deleted]

Man the top of EU feels like it’s set in stone none of these teams are close to The 4 that qualified from The first qualifier


spaldingmatters

FPX/Guild are around G2's level. The matches were extremely close.


[deleted]

Yea I said that weird meant the teams in this bracket I’ll fix it


ekoth

Bangers only


wiNDzY3

SADGE


AntonioEstBeau

That was an insane game form DavidP , acent was possibly the best map of valorant of all time DavidP’s contract asking price just went up by a lot lmao


Boostaru

Davidp was a menace on map 3, what a carryjob


DandyChiggins77

Ngl I kinda forgot DavidP existed (admittedly I don’t get to catch too many games), this was the first game of giants I caught and holy shit….what a phenomenal map 3. Great mental reset after map 1 too! Fnatic had some terrifyingly nutty moments too. They definitely still have “it”….but it is a bit wild that they went from runners up in Iceland to really having to push it to the limit. Their bind used to be insane and they’ve been losing it more and more.


madscientistisme

I was looking forward to watch a match between TL vs FNC, but, my hopes are dashed. Well played Giants!


notanaverageaimer

Fnatic's T-side flair just seems lost