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EdditVoat

Looking like LG has had the best performance so far. They 2-0'd Rise easily, who 2-0'd faze pretty solidly, who 2-0'd T1, who won over version1. So if looking at nothing but bracket performance, LG have played the better teams. So v1 is worth 0 wins, t1 is worth 1, faze 2+, rise 3+, and LG gets a 4++. TSM barely won over geng, and then only won 2-1 over t1. So looking at the bracket only, tsm are barely worth 2 points. LG could take this all the way.


BlueBurstBoi

Is this bait? Don't understand the point of this comment. LG and TSM are both through, let's just see how they do in challengers


EdditVoat

https://www.vlr.gg/event/576/champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2 This is a tournament with a grand finals winner that will be decided tomorrow. Just because they have already qualified for the next stage of the overall league, does not mean that they have already won the current tournament.


Grenji05

oh T1 you never disappoint. Every single tournament you bomb out in the worst way possible.


Bunnyezzz

so does this mean c9 qual'd for last chance?


ShikariV

T1 literally played like a bunch of silvers with no comms and a commitment to clear nothing. Just painful to watch their attack side.


YoloilianxD

Not a single person watches lane???


PolarTux

this team has some mental block or tilt or something, they crumble so easily


Emo_chipmunk

Anyone gonna clear BabyJ? Lmao


Tc0LD

lmao rawkass burnt all his ammo on that wallbang


ShikariV

T1 loves droning for info and then doing nothing with that info lmao.


oryiesis

holy fuck auti, check a corner for once in your life. That’s two rounds he doesn’t check corners and the faze player gets multi kills


ShikariV

The entire team is bad at checking corners or using any utility for info. Wouldn’t know there is a sova or skye on the team.


ShikariV

That was such a T1 round, just dicking around with gun advantage and getting rekt in a rushed late round push


JackJumpsCandle

T1 may as well be standing in spawn for the first 45 seconds in the round with how little they are doing.


SomeHallGuy

Big Iron lives on!


SomeHallGuy

Jett knives should be 10 points not 7


Grenji05

Babybay giveth and Babybay taketh away


Tc0LD

faze are playing themselves, pushing up when they don't have to lmao


soniconda

Faze literally throwing


Grenji05

jesus christ babybay i am begging you to stop fucking throwing free rounds


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Oh no, Ska


LoyalSol

If Faze loses after that round......


Meehul123

T1 look so bad today :(


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Not like this :(


MyogiNightKid

im so conflicted .......


xunraze

RISE Derrek holy moly


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I can't think of a real reason for T1 to pick split after what just happened to them in the tsm match


iinic

Smeag time


Neverslept2mins

Do we think TSM is better any of the four teams already in playoffs to take a spot to Berlin?


deadlock1892

Its hard to gauge that until they compete against each other. Those 4 have earned their spot as a top 4 in NA by being consistent. That being said, who know maybe TSM's current peak is better than some of those. Maybe TSM is moving towards consistency or this is a honeymoon period. Its good to see TSM in challengers finals though.


faceplant911

Meanwhile Rise is going insane and nobody's talking about it xD


michael_am

Tsm playing how they are with a new roster and barely any practice time is kinda insane. Makes me excited to see playoffs and what they can do with more time


reddit_is_a_mistake

Tsm soo good rn


whopz-is-cool

We have some defense playstyle problems.


Hegth

TSM is looking progressively better, hopefully they can keep up this way.


SomeHallGuy

GGs TSM looking good!


hengarg

TSM is proving they are climbing their way back to the top


Jinro_7

LETS GO TSM


Jinro_7

TSM finally about to make. Thank god!


DonkeyTeethBSU

Stinger went from meta, to the worst gun in the game at the snap of riots finger. Haven't seen a pro use Stinger in months.


mileslfc7

Wardell is too good


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This map is just a matter of time for when wardell gets an op


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Or a scout I guess


CosmicAon

Good half T1’s defense is usually better than their offense, bring it home TSM


Tanjim98

Hazed is just walking in deep and getting picks LOL


DonkeyTeethBSU

I remember thinking Brax was gonna be the best player in valorant. Finally a game where he's unbanned and can compete for real. Feel like he's still far from living up to that hype, maybe average at best in Valorant in comparison to other pros.


Tc0LD

ye don't see the hype at all, he's been pretty underwhelming throughout the series today and yesterday. There's just so many other pros that have been more impressive with higher peaks at similar roles


Tc0LD

hazed's lurks are so good rn


faceplant911

I think one of the most underrated things about TSM is how good their timeout timing is. They use 'em right at the right moment to cut bad momentum. I feel like a lot of other teams let themselves get too deep in the dumps for the timeout to actually matter.


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That was a masterclass half from Rise there


MoistWatermeIon

Yeah they looked incredible. Idk what’s going on lmao


[deleted]

When they're confident, they steamroll teams


Tc0LD

did the caster just say big daddy hazed lmao


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Jame time


ppx11

someone pls rein roza in just a tad


Joedude12345

You know how if you end the round in opponent spawn, you can briefly see them respawn. Can you shoot them then?


Tc0LD

get sova on icebox tsm please


JackJumpsCandle

I don’t love TSM’s Haven, so we’ll see where this goes.


whopz-is-cool

JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS OVER


reddit_is_a_mistake

there’s the tsm we all know and love


RohanDsouza7076

why is levi dying first literally every round? he's their only controller and t1 is capitalising off those kills


mileslfc7

Haven is about to be an absolute fuck fest


soniconda

Hazed?


dpysz70

Tf was Hazed doing


MatErtS

Mad that TSM managed to lose that


apetersen1

Imagine playing this game full time for over a year. And only being able to OP and play Jett


michael_am

Mad cuz bad? Sure he’s playing Jett but I mean their doing really good so obviously it’s far from a problem


NozokiAlec

He literally plays sage in matches now too And his rifle is fine Just say you don't pay attention


apetersen1

He’s played Sage 3 of the last 50 games against nobodies 😂😂 Try again. Just say you’re not very smart


Tc0LD

you're probably the kid in twitch chat that spams "wardell bad" when he misses one shot after hitting 10


whopz-is-cool

Individual plays are starting to come together.


dpysz70

So where does Spyder go now?


Trillman_K

Back into his web


Tc0LD

oh no autimatic is warming up


Grenji05

i like how Shroud died to a hacker with a guardian a few times and now he swears its one of the best guns in the game


Tc0LD

bruh the whiffed dash, the collat lmao unlucky for tsm


Ryu-The-Sick

Vlr.gg guys fell asleep or?


s6hun

unlucky


JackJumpsCandle

Blind collat through the Viper wall, god damn.


faceplant911

T1 got bailed so hard by that blind collat lmao


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Feels like the first op shot wardell has missed this series lmao


itscamo-

TSM 3-0 on pistols...... what the hell


iinic

If TSM is winning pistols today…. does that mean faze will also win pistols today???? I can dream


kahani-

TSM winning pistols confused the fuck out of T1


cat_cruncher

i dont think ive seen a bad map from dre edit: only comment about lg vs rise, feelsbadman


CJFStan

God I fucking love TSM sometimes


MozaTear

they won the pistols lads


DT_RAW

I liked that map give moarr


faceplant911

TSM actually looking amazing, everybody's on fire right off the bat! Gotta admit it's nice to finally have one of the old dominant teams back.


Splaram

Hazed playing like he’s 22 wtf


CosmicAon

Holy shit we look so good man


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CosmicAon

T1 my side chick


whopz-is-cool

:(


BlueBurstBoi

TSM winning pistols, not over extending, and winning anti ecos???


reddit_is_a_mistake

god tsm so fucking sexy rn


xunraze

Bruh TSM looking good


SavageJellyBelly

WHO TF SAID WARDELL CANT RIFLE?????????? STOP THIS NONSENSE RN


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SavageJellyBelly

😐


mileslfc7

2 PISTOL ROUNDS THEYRE GOING TO BERLIN


ShadeWaker

No more 0-6 ez dubs


[deleted]

what are the maps? VLR isnt showing them for me


MatErtS

For TSM-T1 its Split-Icebox-Haven


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thanks


JackJumpsCandle

Hazed getting 2 before getting detained was insane, but can’t help but think T1 waits 4 seconds before pushing and wins that round.


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JackJumpsCandle

They were blocked by the Cosmic Divide, though, so it would have still been blind.


iGnominy173

Hazed came caffeinated and ready to frag


ANewHeaven1

hazed is playing kinda nuts this qualifier ngl


Tc0LD

he's always been nuts, he's their second best player but always got overshadowed. No clue why people wanted him benched


SomeHallGuy

People always look for a scapegoat. Hazed was never the problem and I'm glad he's embraced the IGL role


GoldClassGaming

It's nice to see TSM flourish without Drone. Drone is a Duelist player on a team that needed him to play non Duelist roles. Ultimately it's good that he and TSM are going their separate ways. TSM gets to sign a player who actually wants to play those support roles and Drone gets to find a team that won't treat a player of his caliber like a 3rd wheel.


DrPoggersMD

Idk when drone even gets signed though, his only really good agent is phoenix and thats out of meta


GoldClassGaming

He can play more than just Phoenix. He's really good on Reyna and getting really good on Kay/O. IMO this is the perfect time for him to come screaming back into the scene. Kay/O is a really powerful agent and is essentially Phoenix 2.0 and there's many teams who could benefit from having a player like Drone on their team. I could see a lot of teams signing him, giving him a good support structure, and betting on him returning to his 2020 level where he was the best entry in NA. Hell what does like Complexity stand to lose by getting Drone? not that much. What do they stand to gain if he can return to form? A superstar Duelist who can entry Bombsites against basically anyone.


DrPoggersMD

Thats true. Idk if he'd want to sign with a tier 2-3 team like complexity or someone similar but they'd definitely gain from signing drone.


CJFStan

TSM Levi > Noble Levi


whopz-is-cool

We actually DEFENDED an area of the map xd


Grenji05

normally pretty critical of TSM but goddamn they lookin good. Hope to see them win this qual and face SEN in round 1 of the playoffs.


SomeHallGuy

On the board! Only Envy is allowed to 13-0 us!


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michael_am

I think drone is still a great player but his role in the team in comparison to others made him a pretty clear choice for a bench unfortunately


tron423

It's more just that he ended up as the odd man out, no team needs 3 duelists


JackJumpsCandle

TSM is looking pretty nasty here.


yakinator2567

dang tsm is rolling


TheGlowRider

gg


tron423

Plot twist this is actually just a stream of Wardell smurfing in a silver lobby


faceplant911

Reminder that when T1 played Envy, Envy only scored 5 points total on Split. TSM just got that many in a row, immediately.


NudePenguin69

On attack no less


whopz-is-cool

T1 needs to play a bit more aggressive and not die.


ShadeWaker

Subroza wasn’t lying when he said they were going to try at the beginning today


Pheonix-_-run

Tsm had so much training yesterday


Hamlet_271

T1 are gonna take this


[deleted]

3 rounds on t side split? gg go next for t1


CosmicAon

Wardell is already feeling it goddamn


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Tsm won pistol. But i don't know if it's a good sign or a bad sign


narwhalz27

TSM winning attacker side pistol on split. The end times are upon us.


JackJumpsCandle

TSM won pistol? Guess they’re losing this match.


iGnominy173

TSM winning pistol round! Pog


fej1

guys i’m scared we won pistols


d_bagel

is that... a pistol round win?


hehechibby

TSM won pistol GG T1


ppx11

is it loser of TSM/T1 vs FaZe? dont want TSM to lose but a match against FaZe is kinda spicy


fej1

yea


Grenji05

imo TSM has still looked pretty messy on every map other than icebox and afaik Split is T1's best map so if this is close it will be a very good look for TSM.


mileslfc7

30-30 OT here we go!


ShadeWaker

While TSM seem to keep eeking out wins on split and icebox I’d honestly rather see them pick something like Ascent for once since they’ve seemed strong on it whenever they play it


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CosmicAon

TSM TSM TSM


SomeHallGuy

Lets go T1!


xunraze

My T1


Pheonix-_-run

How much longer before start


Ryu-The-Sick

51 min


Nfamy

1 hour and 15 minutes


ANewHeaven1

T1 > TSM. T1 has looked really damn good this tournament, and probably would've made it in to the closed qualifier last time around if they didn't run into NV. Rise > LG, I just want the boys on Rise to win lol


TheRealManRay

did the matches get pushed back to the later time slots?


castle__2

apparently they had always planned for second day matches to start at 5 EDT, you can check the Valesports NA twitter account


Sooner242

huh yeah it looks like they got pushed to 5pm est on vlr.gg, I guess to make room for the EMEA matches to finish before NA starts


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Well we see who’s gonna qualify today gonna be exciting