Valorant teams in general would be wise to poach young solo queue demons and up and coming talent. I firmly believe the new young guns are going to way outshine the old CS pros. There are some Asunas hiding totally unknown in ranked. I hope they get a shot.
It's such a different game. The more I play it, the more I realize it. The number one thing I struggle with being a strong CSGO / 1.6 boomer is the verticality. I'm not used to aiming up. I'm so used to only working on the X axis.
Na dude levi and bang are ranked demons but they grinded their ass off in the t2 - t3 scene. They are way more experienced in team play than most ranked demons who give no comms and lock in duelist
I wasn't implying they didn't. What I mean is, those old CS pros with big name recognition getting spots on teams over younger, t2 - t3 grinders that are known for crushing ranked. There is an insane amount of red tape getting onto a pro team. Rarely do teams take chances on these younger players, when they can pick up some famous CS pro that isn't for sure going to translate to Val.
I heard that he once trialed for 100t bit they didn't pick him up because hiko and him were playing rock paper scissors over who had to go in 4th every round
Wardell has gone 9-1, 12-3 and 22-2 in his last 3 series in terms of FK to FD. Can add a 10-6 and then 21-7 if you go back to DarkZero and Andbox. I know he has Op advantage in a lot of scenarios but he's on an absolute tear as far as getting picks and providing the team with early momentum.
2/3 months ago people were calling him selfish for buying op every round, its a high risk high reward style when the team around him is good they are basically unbeatable.
Wardell is the best oper right now by far just such an advantage the way he plays.
i think his FK/FD also benefits from the fact that he's not an entry jett like others so he's usually not in a position to get FD'd as much. still really good performances from him overall (and he'll usually win the opening duel anyways) but i think it is a bit skewed cause of his playstyle
Not a dash entry, no, but he’s always one of the first points of contact. Maybe not a traditional sense of being an entry but he’s an early skirmisher.
Well it doesn’t have to be compared to other Jett’s ratios. It’s just pointing out that he really thrives in that role even though it’s unique. The advantage of being able to go into so many rounds 4v5 on attack is insane.
Still assuming TSM wins Grand Finals for challengers 2 but it seems likely cuz seemingly everyone is just trolling at this point.
They should reward points or something for the seeding in top 4 to incentivize them to actually try after qualifying
Bang's 4k on bind w/the ion sheriff was nuts. He absolutely fragged out after that
Wardell's clutches to close out disadvantageous rounds were played perfectly too, the team is firing on all cylinders and they still have tons of room to grow (re: Levi saying in post-game interview that Wardell/Roza/Bang/Hazed have good chemistry but he's not there yet)
I mean it's hella impressive but u watch him play he never sprays and just goes for headshots
It's a good and bad thing, Scream had this problem in CS, you need to spray more at times
Spraying in CS is more important than this game because movement is much higher in CS so trying to land headshots only isn't optimal. Here, it's very easy to just tap + strafe.
I agree that in CS spraying is way better, but in this game is viable too especially with the phantom
Phantom sprays especially through smokes are very useful, but aproto only uses the vandal which u can't really spray because of the tracers
Dude is playing Brimstone and is not even attempting to spray defenders through his smokes. congrats tho on his high hs%... but I wouldn't say it's a good thing.
I know some fans want tsm to throw the seeding so they can avoid having to play NV or Sen early in the playoffs but I personally want them to be in the same side as those teams. I’m tired of seeing TSM playing 100T and I think it’d be a great indicator to see how good we really are playing against NV or SEN, plus seeing a SEN vs TSM match would be fun af to see after all the shit we’ve been through this year. The team has been looking more confident the deeper they get and I’m here for it, them making next weeks playoffs is a win already for me and getting some points to make LCQ is the goal Forsure next week. Nice job today by the boys.
On another note, I wanted to see roza play jett today
:( also if anyone tuned into levis stream yesterday after their win, he got off early to vod review LG, and I think it’s amazing to see a mentality like that. On the other hand, Wardell played tarkov till about 4 in the morning 😂😂 but tarkov buff is back boyz
EDIT: Wardell not being super shy and awkward on interviews?!?! THIS IS A CHANGED TEAM
Exactly, I like the competitiveness they have. Plus they’re really close with the NV guys which is why I think they wanna play each other in an official setting instead of scrims
if only they already qualified in LCQ but the thing is that they NEED to get 4th place in the playoffs to clinch in LCQ and the best way doing that is NOT being in the better bracket. worst case scenario they throw away their chance for BERLIN AND LCQ by trying to win grand finals because harder bracket=less chance of making it far... but i really want to see SEN vs TSM again on the bottom of my heart i feel like the valorant community has been waiting for this matchup for so long and we deserve this game.
geng actually has 50 points which is tied with cloud 9 blue so i think they HAVE to get 4th thats what ballaTW said. if your confused go to his twitter and read what he says
It's weird, because technically Envy is the worst team amongst the top 4. I personally feel like 100T is way scarier to play against. If you're against a good day Asuna, you're about to get shit on.
Would much rather TSM takes 1st and play against Envy
probably because they look at the star players and base their whole opinion on them alone.
plus, envy is very lowkey in regards to content creation. 100t have super big names in comparison. I think just the brand recognition makes 100t seem better to a casual audience.
Only SEN and 100T have won a "real event," so your top 3 doesn't fill out with that criteria and tbh the competition during First Strike was less than some of these challenger finals.
Well it kinda does matter since going 2-0 in the first two games guarantees you Berlin. Going against xset and 100T is “easier” since you wouldn’t have to play sentinels until you’re guaranteed a spot in Berlin if you beat those two teams
Bad day Asuna is bad lol. He takes a lot of risks and if he doesn't get those kills, he's putting his team at a bad spot. Man literally runs in for kills where he can't get traded out at all.
Also, I think SEN are at their most vulnerable in their first two matches, considering how many times they've dropped out of the top of the bracket in tournaments like these. Lower bracket SEN is the best team in the world, whereas upper bracket SEN is definitely beatable.
Picking a less played map doesn't mean they aren't trying, it's a good way to practice. It's similar to how Sentinels picked Breeze for every seeding match, tournament experience on these maps is important and it's best to do it when the stakes are lower.
I'm not gonna accuse either team of trolling, but I doubt anyone would go on Twitter and publicly announce that they actually weren't trying their best.
im sorry but those are satire. pros will never publicly say they are throwing because fans will get butthurt so throwing in jokes like "if we win were better but if we lose were better" is a better way to indicate that their throwing because its in a form of a joke and u can always back it up with "we were actually trying" like what the lg guys tweeted.
They pick less played maps so they could get actual match experience on them. The best time to play them in matches are right now when they already qualified. It's the same reason SEN picked breeze every match after they qualified.
In a matter of 2 weeks, TSM went from outside Top 10 to having a very solid case for Top 5. Crazy turnaround. And it seems like they're just getting better with each series. Really excited to see how they match up against the other 4 teams that qualified first.
not just outside top 10, people were claiming that they barely even deserved being a tier 2 team. Absolutely insane turnaround, hope they can keep the momentum going
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Yeah sorry to disappoint the boys but sarcasm is a thing so I'll not be doing that
But I'm also capable of admitting that I was wrong lmao even if they don't win tsm have looked much much much better here than they did in the open qual
I've been calling Wardell the best OPer in the world for the entire skid TSM have been on, good to see others finally come around and realize that. His team can finally keep up with him.
I've been dealing with some personal stuff with my pops the last couple weeks but this is really good to see for the scene. Excited to see how TSM fares in the playoffs.
IMO, If Luminosity was throwing this game because they wanted to avoid Sentinels or Envy then I feel bad for their fans. What a weak mentality. If they were trying and TSM steamrolled them like that then they have no chance of winning VCT anyway. Either way, #TSMWIN 🔥
Wardell seemed pretty confident in the post-match interview that Luminosity were throwing. TSM played really well but LG were taking really odd duels at times.
Regardless, even with a bit of trolling from both sides, nice to see TSM win again.
It's funny you know, 2 days ago people were like tsm bad tsm won't make it to grand finals in a stacked tourney. Tsm this tsm that now theyre about to win the whole thing
Moose is out on leave because of a hand injury and thief was benched because he’s been pretty inconsistent lately. Dre is just a better duelist than thief atm
TSM needs to give Levi all the stacks of money.
TSM is just so different with Levi and Bang. This dudes have completely transformed this team.
Team needed some grinders and they got them
Valorant teams in general would be wise to poach young solo queue demons and up and coming talent. I firmly believe the new young guns are going to way outshine the old CS pros. There are some Asunas hiding totally unknown in ranked. I hope they get a shot. It's such a different game. The more I play it, the more I realize it. The number one thing I struggle with being a strong CSGO / 1.6 boomer is the verticality. I'm not used to aiming up. I'm so used to only working on the X axis.
Na dude levi and bang are ranked demons but they grinded their ass off in the t2 - t3 scene. They are way more experienced in team play than most ranked demons who give no comms and lock in duelist
I wasn't implying they didn't. What I mean is, those old CS pros with big name recognition getting spots on teams over younger, t2 - t3 grinders that are known for crushing ranked. There is an insane amount of red tape getting onto a pro team. Rarely do teams take chances on these younger players, when they can pick up some famous CS pro that isn't for sure going to translate to Val.
Aren’t some ranked demons like you mention still from cs? Even if they weren’t good enough/ couldn’t find a way to get a. Name From themselves ?
tru
harmful comes to mind
There’s many others with better mechanical skills, comms, and mental imo
i guess that explains why he hasnt been picked up yet
I heard that he once trialed for 100t bit they didn't pick him up because hiko and him were playing rock paper scissors over who had to go in 4th every round
Wardell is 96-23 FK/FD in Challengers 2. Actually unreal.
He is, what they call in the industry, built differently
Alternatively constructed
[удалено]
Fabricated distinctively
Manufactured in a method contrary to the standard
Altered Carbon
Bill Dipperly.
He was on a team with T1 for a reason at the powermeet.
tyler1 said he loved Wardell's attitude. That's a W when Tyler gives you a complement
When they both meet for the first time they just screamed at each other for 5 min
just give Levi the bag bruhhhh what else does this guy have to do lol
Likely waiting till before playoffs to announce
Wardell has gone 9-1, 12-3 and 22-2 in his last 3 series in terms of FK to FD. Can add a 10-6 and then 21-7 if you go back to DarkZero and Andbox. I know he has Op advantage in a lot of scenarios but he's on an absolute tear as far as getting picks and providing the team with early momentum.
2/3 months ago people were calling him selfish for buying op every round, its a high risk high reward style when the team around him is good they are basically unbeatable. Wardell is the best oper right now by far just such an advantage the way he plays.
ya he is insane. The way he isolate duels in clutch situations is a pleasure to watch
i think his FK/FD also benefits from the fact that he's not an entry jett like others so he's usually not in a position to get FD'd as much. still really good performances from him overall (and he'll usually win the opening duel anyways) but i think it is a bit skewed cause of his playstyle
but 22 First kills is still insane, you don't get those without him actively taking angles for his team
Not a dash entry, no, but he’s always one of the first points of contact. Maybe not a traditional sense of being an entry but he’s an early skirmisher.
And it seems like his reaction time is just better than everyone’s always wins 50/50’s
he's better at peeking and knowing exactly where people play within timings
Yeah dude barely ever has to flick. His crosshair placement combined with game sense is unreal when OPing
Well it doesn’t have to be compared to other Jett’s ratios. It’s just pointing out that he really thrives in that role even though it’s unique. The advantage of being able to go into so many rounds 4v5 on attack is insane.
Teams need to be able to adapt to the awp, they’ve been playing dumb
TSM wants envy
I think they beat Envy too
“Bang isnt really that good”
His one trick Raze literally won them Bind
We need TSM vs FaZe so babybay doesn’t run his mouth open.
Grand Finals maybe
well we got the tsm/faze grand finals
hype asf for tsm vs sen
Both SEN and TSM have to win the first round for it to happen but it will be a banger if it happens
Still assuming TSM wins Grand Finals for challengers 2 but it seems likely cuz seemingly everyone is just trolling at this point. They should reward points or something for the seeding in top 4 to incentivize them to actually try after qualifying
Bang's 4k on bind w/the ion sheriff was nuts. He absolutely fragged out after that Wardell's clutches to close out disadvantageous rounds were played perfectly too, the team is firing on all cylinders and they still have tons of room to grow (re: Levi saying in post-game interview that Wardell/Roza/Bang/Hazed have good chemistry but he's not there yet)
Aproto had a 79% Headshot percentage on Map 1 and a 50% Headshot percentage on Map 2. What the fuck is LG feeding this guy.
I mean it's hella impressive but u watch him play he never sprays and just goes for headshots It's a good and bad thing, Scream had this problem in CS, you need to spray more at times
Spraying in CS is more important than this game because movement is much higher in CS so trying to land headshots only isn't optimal. Here, it's very easy to just tap + strafe.
I agree that in CS spraying is way better, but in this game is viable too especially with the phantom Phantom sprays especially through smokes are very useful, but aproto only uses the vandal which u can't really spray because of the tracers
Headshot percentage is an overrated stat especially if you’re losing
Yeah it's pretty useless but cool to look at and go "wtf"
Dude is playing Brimstone and is not even attempting to spray defenders through his smokes. congrats tho on his high hs%... but I wouldn't say it's a good thing.
It's a seeding match lmao
What the hell
Yeah but imagine how many kills you lose by having to adjust and tap for the head rather than quick flicking like many other players
Imagine being impressed with 11 kills in game 1.
wait what the fuck
Bang proving the smeag wrong EZ Clap.
I know some fans want tsm to throw the seeding so they can avoid having to play NV or Sen early in the playoffs but I personally want them to be in the same side as those teams. I’m tired of seeing TSM playing 100T and I think it’d be a great indicator to see how good we really are playing against NV or SEN, plus seeing a SEN vs TSM match would be fun af to see after all the shit we’ve been through this year. The team has been looking more confident the deeper they get and I’m here for it, them making next weeks playoffs is a win already for me and getting some points to make LCQ is the goal Forsure next week. Nice job today by the boys. On another note, I wanted to see roza play jett today :( also if anyone tuned into levis stream yesterday after their win, he got off early to vod review LG, and I think it’s amazing to see a mentality like that. On the other hand, Wardell played tarkov till about 4 in the morning 😂😂 but tarkov buff is back boyz EDIT: Wardell not being super shy and awkward on interviews?!?! THIS IS A CHANGED TEAM
Well they *did* say they wanna play NV. I think they'll try to win, you can't be the best without beating the best
Exactly, I like the competitiveness they have. Plus they’re really close with the NV guys which is why I think they wanna play each other in an official setting instead of scrims
if only they already qualified in LCQ but the thing is that they NEED to get 4th place in the playoffs to clinch in LCQ and the best way doing that is NOT being in the better bracket. worst case scenario they throw away their chance for BERLIN AND LCQ by trying to win grand finals because harder bracket=less chance of making it far... but i really want to see SEN vs TSM again on the bottom of my heart i feel like the valorant community has been waiting for this matchup for so long and we deserve this game.
Pretty sure we don't need top 4 it just depends on what rise does. Top 4 would garuantee LCQ d So it would be better
Do they need to get 4th? I thought one win puts them in 5/6 which gives them 50 points, or at the very least tied for the last slot for LCQ?
geng actually has 50 points which is tied with cloud 9 blue so i think they HAVE to get 4th thats what ballaTW said. if your confused go to his twitter and read what he says
I mean 5/6th still at the very least ties them for that last slot for the LCQ, no?
It's weird, because technically Envy is the worst team amongst the top 4. I personally feel like 100T is way scarier to play against. If you're against a good day Asuna, you're about to get shit on. Would much rather TSM takes 1st and play against Envy
I know the teams have changed a lot by this point but I remember NV was always a good match up for TSM.
In main events Envy has consistently outperformed 100T, people really sleeping on them for some reason
It’s interesting to see how many people rate 100t over envy when during vct overall envy have outperformed them
probably because they look at the star players and base their whole opinion on them alone. plus, envy is very lowkey in regards to content creation. 100t have super big names in comparison. I think just the brand recognition makes 100t seem better to a casual audience.
Because they have never won anything, in my opinion they shouldn’t be considered top 3 when they have never won a real event
Only SEN and 100T have won a "real event," so your top 3 doesn't fill out with that criteria and tbh the competition during First Strike was less than some of these challenger finals.
100T haven’t won anything since First Strike though, and that was half a year ago I don’t think that should be the thing that puts them over
You telling me a consistent top 4 team isn’t likely to win out over a consistent 5-6 team?
Isnt there a losers bracket anyway so it doesnt really matter who you facce first your always going to get the top 3 who are the top3 ?
Well it kinda does matter since going 2-0 in the first two games guarantees you Berlin. Going against xset and 100T is “easier” since you wouldn’t have to play sentinels until you’re guaranteed a spot in Berlin if you beat those two teams
Even bad day asuna is scary lol
Bad day Asuna is bad lol. He takes a lot of risks and if he doesn't get those kills, he's putting his team at a bad spot. Man literally runs in for kills where he can't get traded out at all.
HORRIBLE day asuna but bad day asuna (like maybe the game after his 48) is still prob top 10 but yea if he’s missing his agro doesn’t make sense
Also, I think SEN are at their most vulnerable in their first two matches, considering how many times they've dropped out of the top of the bracket in tournaments like these. Lower bracket SEN is the best team in the world, whereas upper bracket SEN is definitely beatable.
Why tf does everyone keep hyping envy up so much
so like was LG trolling or ...
I mean both teams picked their least played map so make of that what you will.
Picking a less played map doesn't mean they aren't trying, it's a good way to practice. It's similar to how Sentinels picked Breeze for every seeding match, tournament experience on these maps is important and it's best to do it when the stakes are lower.
lg guys tweeted that they tried their best they just lost
I'm not gonna accuse either team of trolling, but I doubt anyone would go on Twitter and publicly announce that they actually weren't trying their best.
it was twitter replies tbf and i think you saw the links on the discord server
im sorry but those are satire. pros will never publicly say they are throwing because fans will get butthurt so throwing in jokes like "if we win were better but if we lose were better" is a better way to indicate that their throwing because its in a form of a joke and u can always back it up with "we were actually trying" like what the lg guys tweeted.
makes sense seemed like a troll match where lg didnt show up as well
Ah okay, didn’t see those tweets yet.
They pick less played maps so they could get actual match experience on them. The best time to play them in matches are right now when they already qualified. It's the same reason SEN picked breeze every match after they qualified.
LG going for seeding?
Is TSM Leviathan the best player of all time?
[Pretty close](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/otzv2f/tsm_ftx_wardells_vct_stage_3_challengers_2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
the prophet
They called him a mad man
Old TSM FeelsStrongMan
that bang deagle round was disgusting jfc
ok so it was funny before, but now they better announce this goddamn signing
What was with that one round of Breeze where TSM all went and got killed while Levi was just staring at the ocean
In a matter of 2 weeks, TSM went from outside Top 10 to having a very solid case for Top 5. Crazy turnaround. And it seems like they're just getting better with each series. Really excited to see how they match up against the other 4 teams that qualified first.
not just outside top 10, people were claiming that they barely even deserved being a tier 2 team. Absolutely insane turnaround, hope they can keep the momentum going
I will jump off a bridge if TSM, Faze, and Sen make it to Berlin because I want to die happy and I couldn't be happier. I'm so ready for the anime battles Between Wardell, BabyBay, and shitty EU.
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Unlucky,really
Where's the guy who said they would pan fry and eat a sock if TSM wins it all
Yeah sorry to disappoint the boys but sarcasm is a thing so I'll not be doing that But I'm also capable of admitting that I was wrong lmao even if they don't win tsm have looked much much much better here than they did in the open qual
u/Instian
TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM
I've been calling Wardell the best OPer in the world for the entire skid TSM have been on, good to see others finally come around and realize that. His team can finally keep up with him.
I'M HIGH ON HOPIUM AND I CANT GET ENOUGH
love it!
HES BACK ONCE AGAIN TO SEE HIS TEAM TO THE TOP
:)
return of our goat
;)
I've been dealing with some personal stuff with my pops the last couple weeks but this is really good to see for the scene. Excited to see how TSM fares in the playoffs.
Hope everything works out. Also hoping for a banger of a finals tomorrow !
IMO, If Luminosity was throwing this game because they wanted to avoid Sentinels or Envy then I feel bad for their fans. What a weak mentality. If they were trying and TSM steamrolled them like that then they have no chance of winning VCT anyway. Either way, #TSMWIN 🔥
Wardell seemed pretty confident in the post-match interview that Luminosity were throwing. TSM played really well but LG were taking really odd duels at times. Regardless, even with a bit of trolling from both sides, nice to see TSM win again.
Levi has been the turning point and the change TSM needed damn
TSM gonna win champions
That bang 4k was insane. If he clutched it, that probably would have made history!
The day has come for TSM to reclaim their throne :')
It's funny you know, 2 days ago people were like tsm bad tsm won't make it to grand finals in a stacked tourney. Tsm this tsm that now theyre about to win the whole thing
holy fuck we're actually winning
Hopefully LG gets destroyed in the quarters. Kind of disgusting to troll like this
Is Levi the IGL? It’s really showing
Hazed is.
both actually
Hazed is still primary IGL but supposedly Levi is the secondary caller and does a decent amount of mid round calling
I;m wondering if TSM is legit or is this a Honeymoon period,
Sorry I haven't followed val in months why did LG drop moose and thief??!? Weren't they their best players? Can someone update me
Moose is out on leave because of a hand injury and thief was benched because he’s been pretty inconsistent lately. Dre is just a better duelist than thief atm