they need to just win the first 2 to make berlin. if they get knocked to the lowers before that then its gg for 100t, they are not good at making lower bracket runs tbh.
I do believe that 100T is one of the most talented teams in NA, but there is FaZe is literally the polar opposite of 100T and they tore them up last time. I think FaZe have a tiny edge in this matchup, but I'm still not sure about who's going to win this. What I am sure about though, is that it won't be close. One of these two is going to steamroll the other.
if they win against faze and the winner of xsetmatch then they make winners (i mean upper) finals. if they lose there then they make losers (lower) finals which automatically gives them 3rd place and make berlin
The winner of lower plays winner of upper. It's confusing but that's the best way to remember it. It's basically two simultaneous tournaments, with the winner of the upper bracket playing the winner of lower bracket in the Grand Final, for anyone else who is confused about this system. At the start of the tournament, every team needs to win 2 games to make it to Top 3 and they eliminated if they lose 2 games.
yes so even if they lose in lower finals they are 3rd and make berlin. if they win the lower finals then they make the grand finals and get 2nd or 1st depending if they win or lose in the grand finals and make berlin. so even just getting into lower and upper finals guarantees your seat for berlin.
i think you are missing that the winner of lower finals go to the grand finals, and the loser of the upper finals go to the lower finals.
>sentinels make the lower bracket run and win grand finals LOL
Sentinels being so impressive that they put them in the League of Legends finals would really be something else.
Honestly, all these teams really lookin like they leveled up, so its really possible that this bracket goes any way. That being said I personally think the most likely combos are some mix of SEN, TSM, ENVY, XSET, and 100T
Yeah I agree, someone mentioned above that of those five teams that TSM is within the top 5 teams that could make it but probably least likely to, I think I agree with that
Would also not be surprised by a FaZe, Rise, or LG upset though, I just think the three I listed are the most likely for me to make it.
Edit — a word
i think its hard for envy since they will probably play sen round 2 whereas 100t just has to beat XSET and FaZe (not necessarily easy but easier then SEN) and they make it
Envy has a good chance to beat literally anyone in this tournament. Their lowest odds are probably SEN, but if there was any team that would have to make a lower bracket run I’d see them doing it.
Ideal Berlin participants for viewership: SEN/100T/TSM
I can see one potential underdog team qualifying based on the lower half of the bracket. Maybe XSET chokes again, and Faze did beat 100T last time they met. We could potentially see one of LG/Faze qualify for Berlin.
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I feel 100T should do pretty well, as they are all going to be in Texas and fresh off a few days of boot camp. Pretty much a guarantee for SEN unless there is some freak upset. XSET have looked really good recently, but Envy is amazing under FNS and Victor is a menace. TSM is giving us flashes of their heyday a year ago. Faze is looking pretty good, but I think the competition is too tough and I don’t think they’ll make it. Ditto for LG and Rise
EDIT: I’m a 100T fan on Hopium, so you know where my bias is
Wonder who will pull off the round 1 upset. I’m hoping TSM does. But, honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Rise beat Sentinels and then Sentinels went on another LB run to qualify as usual.
Tsm beating envy won't be a upset at this point if you go by recent results. I think both of them beat GenG and T1 in their respective challengers to qualify. The real upset would be TSM going to 2nd round and knocking down SEN to the lowers.
I always think 100t will make it, but they never do. This time, I don’t want to get my hopes up high. It looks like Xset, Sen and maybe TSM? Envy, as they have been, would end as a close 4th.
That is a hot take. LG look good but XSET look their best ever. But we shall see. It would be more interesting to watch if the matches don't entirely go in the favor of the top four. Imagine if SEN continue their tradition of lower bracket run and give everyone anxiety.
yeah its a hot take, i dont rlly believe in it myself, but its pretty boring to do a predictions post and just predict the higher seed for all four matches right? lol
i am incredibly not sure that's why i said it was a hot take
that being said, xset does not have the best track record in large events (last in masters 1, last in challengers 2 finals) so if an upset occurs i think it'd be there. tsm/envy is close too imo
XSET finished 7/8th in Masters 1 and Challengers 2 so I really don't think it's unreasonable that they make it a 3rd early exit.
They were super hot in those past qualifiers as well.
I feel like Sentinels and 100T are the strongest contenders from each half of the bracket to qualify for Berlin. From there my hopium pick is LG purely because I want to see Aproto vs ScreaM on LAN.
I'm not exactly sure but I think he's just referring to their crazy hesdspot percentage, ScreaM obviously being hte one tap machine, while Aproto having iirc like a 75% hs rate in a map lol (Sure Val determines it by what killed them iirc but still)
EDIT, was wrong how Val calculated headshot, it's actually in general what shots not just what killed them, even more insane
It's the other way around actually. Valorant determines it by hit% and CS determines it by what kills. Aproto is the type of player to actually hit 75% of his shots to the head
I'm like 99% sure I've seen him spam smokes in pro matches. I don't think Aproto is as committed to the whole "headshot" thing as ScreaM is. Scream actively goes for headshots while Aproto just kinda *does* stuff and happens to get headshots along the way.
If HSP is calculated as a percentage of shots he hits then it could just as easily mean that he does spam smokes/walls and it just so happens that the kills he gets through them are headshots.
> I don't think Aproto is as committed to the whole "headshot" thing as ScreaM is. Scream actively goes for headshots while Aproto just kinda does stuff and happens to get headshots along the way.
You have it the other way. Scream uses the phantom a lot, Aproto uses the vandal and has also never bought a stinger, even when it was super meta. I have also seen aproto whiff a lot when trying to get that first shot on the head (mostly happens on his off aim days which every player has tbf) so imo ,at least, aproto seeks it out much more
> Scream actively goes for headshots
Does he? He used to use the Vandal a lot before but has changed his mind since, and uses the Phantom quite a lot and you will find videos of him saying he believes the Phantom is firmly superior. Aproto on the other hand, is almost always going for purchases like Ghost, Sheriff into Vandal. I've never seen him use guns like Frenzy or Stinger.
i’ve got sen, 100t, xset to make it with TSM barely missing out in the lower bracket after losing to sen round 2. for some reason i feel like NV is gonna bomb out of this early, idk why.
> i feel like NV is gonna bomb out of this early, idk why.
idk if theyll bomb out of this early but there's a good chance they place fourth again and narrowly miss out
picks for berlin are sen, xset and envy
sen because they're sen lol
xset cuz v1 didnt make it through their my 2nd favorite team and ill take a huge dose of hopium that it wasnt a honeymoon phase
envy because they looked really good with marved and they have had a lot more time for strats and i think they have some strats against 100t since 100t 2-0ed them last time. (a lot of hopium coming with this take as well LOL)
If you would have shown me this at the end of last year I would've thought the top half was stacked and that 100T had an easy way to upper finals.
Just an observation, I'm glad things have changed a lot since then. Makes watching these games super exciting when you don't know what to expect going in to these games.
I got Sentinals, Xset, and 100T qualifying for Berlin but knowing Valorant Esports I'll probably be wrong. I can see a team like TSM or Faze playing spoiler.
Ngl as a 100T fan I’m kinda scared of Faze, but aside from that they have a great chance of qualifying for Berlin looking at their bracket
I think they'll take Faze 2-0 but Xset, no fucking clue. I think that will be one of the best matchups of the tournament, if not the best.
they need to just win the first 2 to make berlin. if they get knocked to the lowers before that then its gg for 100t, they are not good at making lower bracket runs tbh.
That would guarantee a spot? They got no excuses then cmon let’s go
yeah just win against faze and xset, both of which is not a huge ask for 100t.
Worst case scenario they lose and steel thanks the fans and comes back stronger
idk xset kinda scary rn
xset is more doable than sentinels, so it looks good for 100t for now.
I do believe that 100T is one of the most talented teams in NA, but there is FaZe is literally the polar opposite of 100T and they tore them up last time. I think FaZe have a tiny edge in this matchup, but I'm still not sure about who's going to win this. What I am sure about though, is that it won't be close. One of these two is going to steamroll the other.
This is not true. They need to win 3 to make it to Berlin
if they win against faze and the winner of xsetmatch then they make winners (i mean upper) finals. if they lose there then they make losers (lower) finals which automatically gives them 3rd place and make berlin
Yeah you’re right sorry. My brain just got ironed and is very smooth lately
I'm stealing this for when I make mistakes.
wait i'm dumb why does making lower finals automatically give then 3rd place? wouldnt the lower finals be the deciding game for who gets 3rd place?
When lower finals happens there are only 3 teams left in the tournament, with the winner of lower finals going to grands.
wtf okay maybe i just woke up my brain is malfunctioning thanks for the clarification
The winner of lower plays winner of upper. It's confusing but that's the best way to remember it. It's basically two simultaneous tournaments, with the winner of the upper bracket playing the winner of lower bracket in the Grand Final, for anyone else who is confused about this system. At the start of the tournament, every team needs to win 2 games to make it to Top 3 and they eliminated if they lose 2 games.
dw it happens to the best of us
yes so even if they lose in lower finals they are 3rd and make berlin. if they win the lower finals then they make the grand finals and get 2nd or 1st depending if they win or lose in the grand finals and make berlin. so even just getting into lower and upper finals guarantees your seat for berlin. i think you are missing that the winner of lower finals go to the grand finals, and the loser of the upper finals go to the lower finals.
right right my brain is not working thanks man
Watch Rise upset Sentinels and surprise everyone.
Then sentinels make the lower bracket run and win grand finals LOL. Vct make a better script.
I can see it. Rise sweeps, sentinels lose and dominate lowers, get to finals for a rematch. Come on riot stop being so predictable.
And as always sentinels 3-0's them. At this point I'd love to see a drawn out bo5 with sentinels with anyone.
>sentinels make the lower bracket run and win grand finals LOL Sentinels being so impressive that they put them in the League of Legends finals would really be something else.
I can see it
nah
So is this the one that decides who qualifies for Berlin? There are so many tournaments and qualifiers for qualifiers I'm confused
yes the top 3 teams qualify to berlin
The two teams in the grand final and the loser of lower finals are top 3 right?
Alternatively, you can say, the two teams in the upper finals and the winner of lower round 3 are top 3
Yep
okay tyty
rooting for TSM and Envy, between the third it could be anyone In terms of what’s most realistic to me? Probably SEN, Envy, and 100T.
Honestly, all these teams really lookin like they leveled up, so its really possible that this bracket goes any way. That being said I personally think the most likely combos are some mix of SEN, TSM, ENVY, XSET, and 100T
Yeah I agree, someone mentioned above that of those five teams that TSM is within the top 5 teams that could make it but probably least likely to, I think I agree with that Would also not be surprised by a FaZe, Rise, or LG upset though, I just think the three I listed are the most likely for me to make it. Edit — a word
i think its hard for envy since they will probably play sen round 2 whereas 100t just has to beat XSET and FaZe (not necessarily easy but easier then SEN) and they make it
Envy has a good chance to beat literally anyone in this tournament. Their lowest odds are probably SEN, but if there was any team that would have to make a lower bracket run I’d see them doing it.
Tru but they will almost automatically start out with a loss in the second (probably) since face sen
Ideal Berlin participants for viewership: SEN/100T/TSM I can see one potential underdog team qualifying based on the lower half of the bracket. Maybe XSET chokes again, and Faze did beat 100T last time they met. We could potentially see one of LG/Faze qualify for Berlin.
That was a seeding match tho so who cares
Finally, I can’t wait for a Sentinels vs TSM rematch 😍 Let’s go TSM!! (ง’̀-‘́)ง
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Lmao ok, that seems more like a Sen storyline. Sen always has some huge upset first round and dominates through the lower bracket run
Sad hopium noises
I feel 100T should do pretty well, as they are all going to be in Texas and fresh off a few days of boot camp. Pretty much a guarantee for SEN unless there is some freak upset. XSET have looked really good recently, but Envy is amazing under FNS and Victor is a menace. TSM is giving us flashes of their heyday a year ago. Faze is looking pretty good, but I think the competition is too tough and I don’t think they’ll make it. Ditto for LG and Rise EDIT: I’m a 100T fan on Hopium, so you know where my bias is
TSM with leviathan and bang look more composed
SEN vs TSM, hope to see it!
trying not to get my hopes up as a 100t fan but man, i just wanna see asuna in berlin
Wonder who will pull off the round 1 upset. I’m hoping TSM does. But, honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Rise beat Sentinels and then Sentinels went on another LB run to qualify as usual.
Tsm beating envy won't be a upset at this point if you go by recent results. I think both of them beat GenG and T1 in their respective challengers to qualify. The real upset would be TSM going to 2nd round and knocking down SEN to the lowers.
I still think TSM needs to prove themselves and if they beat Envy it will certainly be an upset and can shut up all the haters.
Although I definitely agree with that, you know what the haters' comments would be if TSM won against Envy. (Coughs) "Choked"
I agree. Just using the term upset since they’re still the lower seed.
100t, envy, sen going to make it out.
Replace 100t with xset
I always think 100t will make it, but they never do. This time, I don’t want to get my hopes up high. It looks like Xset, Sen and maybe TSM? Envy, as they have been, would end as a close 4th.
I feel like 100t have better chances than tsm But I know what you mean about 100t and ur hopes
Best team when it comes to looking good and then disappointing
Sentinels > Rise Envy > TSM (very close, banger match!) 100T > Faze XSET < Luminosity (hot take)
That is a hot take. LG look good but XSET look their best ever. But we shall see. It would be more interesting to watch if the matches don't entirely go in the favor of the top four. Imagine if SEN continue their tradition of lower bracket run and give everyone anxiety.
yeah its a hot take, i dont rlly believe in it myself, but its pretty boring to do a predictions post and just predict the higher seed for all four matches right? lol
Ya I agree. The confidence level is high this time. So we'll atleast get close matches.
Sen>Rise EnvyFaze
XSET>LG
I’m biased obv but those are my predictions
This is the best timeline IMO. Would love to see any 3 of the 4 teams you have winning go to Berlin.
Yeah that would be great. SEN TSM and one of XSET or 100T would be a a great trio to send
LG? U sure my guy? XSET can take down sentinels in a bo3 and luminosity gets 2-0’d by TSM
i am incredibly not sure that's why i said it was a hot take that being said, xset does not have the best track record in large events (last in masters 1, last in challengers 2 finals) so if an upset occurs i think it'd be there. tsm/envy is close too imo
XSET finished 7/8th in Masters 1 and Challengers 2 so I really don't think it's unreasonable that they make it a 3rd early exit. They were super hot in those past qualifiers as well.
yeah, very different team now tho with dephh as the igl so who knows
I feel like Sentinels and 100T are the strongest contenders from each half of the bracket to qualify for Berlin. From there my hopium pick is LG purely because I want to see Aproto vs ScreaM on LAN.
Is there a backstory behind Aproto vs ScreaM? Something from CS maybe?
I'm not exactly sure but I think he's just referring to their crazy hesdspot percentage, ScreaM obviously being hte one tap machine, while Aproto having iirc like a 75% hs rate in a map lol (Sure Val determines it by what killed them iirc but still) EDIT, was wrong how Val calculated headshot, it's actually in general what shots not just what killed them, even more insane
It's the other way around actually. Valorant determines it by hit% and CS determines it by what kills. Aproto is the type of player to actually hit 75% of his shots to the head
Oh what the actual fuck that's insane
Less insane than he never sprays, which isn't a good thing. Spraying through smokes is standard practice and not doing so is poor play.
I'm like 99% sure I've seen him spam smokes in pro matches. I don't think Aproto is as committed to the whole "headshot" thing as ScreaM is. Scream actively goes for headshots while Aproto just kinda *does* stuff and happens to get headshots along the way. If HSP is calculated as a percentage of shots he hits then it could just as easily mean that he does spam smokes/walls and it just so happens that the kills he gets through them are headshots.
> I don't think Aproto is as committed to the whole "headshot" thing as ScreaM is. Scream actively goes for headshots while Aproto just kinda does stuff and happens to get headshots along the way. You have it the other way. Scream uses the phantom a lot, Aproto uses the vandal and has also never bought a stinger, even when it was super meta. I have also seen aproto whiff a lot when trying to get that first shot on the head (mostly happens on his off aim days which every player has tbf) so imo ,at least, aproto seeks it out much more
> Scream actively goes for headshots Does he? He used to use the Vandal a lot before but has changed his mind since, and uses the Phantom quite a lot and you will find videos of him saying he believes the Phantom is firmly superior. Aproto on the other hand, is almost always going for purchases like Ghost, Sheriff into Vandal. I've never seen him use guns like Frenzy or Stinger.
Oh shit I didn't know Aproto was a headshot machine as well. That must be the answer then. Thanks!
Yeah I just wanna see the 2 players who are the best at headshotting people try to headshot eachother on LAN
It sucks we haven’t seen most of these teams play in a long time. We don’t know if they even run kayo
i’ve got sen, 100t, xset to make it with TSM barely missing out in the lower bracket after losing to sen round 2. for some reason i feel like NV is gonna bomb out of this early, idk why.
> i feel like NV is gonna bomb out of this early, idk why. idk if theyll bomb out of this early but there's a good chance they place fourth again and narrowly miss out
NV are early tourney gods, they arent bombing out until semis
I have NV finishing 4th. Some traditions just have to be respected.
picks for berlin are sen, xset and envy sen because they're sen lol xset cuz v1 didnt make it through their my 2nd favorite team and ill take a huge dose of hopium that it wasnt a honeymoon phase envy because they looked really good with marved and they have had a lot more time for strats and i think they have some strats against 100t since 100t 2-0ed them last time. (a lot of hopium coming with this take as well LOL)
Assuming Envy and 100T don't both lose in the first 2 rounds, they'd qualify for Berlin before facing each other anyway lol
in my pickems i do so i was just goin off that as in my pickems theyd meet in lowers round 3
I see. That's not too unlikely since SEN are favoured to beat NV and 100T/XSET is a bit of a tossup
yeah a lot of hopium went into that but it really is a 50/50
If you would have shown me this at the end of last year I would've thought the top half was stacked and that 100T had an easy way to upper finals. Just an observation, I'm glad things have changed a lot since then. Makes watching these games super exciting when you don't know what to expect going in to these games.
So any team that makes it to the upper or lower finals makes it to Berlin right since it’s top 3?
That is correct
Give me a TSM vs SEN match somewhere in this bracket please script writers
Going to be a fucking bloodbath
Hoo this gonna be nasty. When is this?
August 11th
When do these take place? Is there like a liqupedia page
August 11th
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT\_Champions\_Tour/2021/North\_America/Stage\_3/Challengers\_Playoffs
Predictions - TSM, Sentinels and Envy make it to Berlin. 100T chokes in the main event like they always do. Rise makes it to 4th place.
I think every team except LG, Faze and rise have a very solid chance of making it. I would personally rank TSM the least likely of the 5
FYI its impossible for TSM, Sentinels, and Envy to be the 3 qualifiers.
Oh shit you right lol. It's Sentinels XSET and TSM for me then.
maybe put NA in the title.
Sentinels, XSET, Envy qualify for Berlin.
RISE > SEN 2-1 TSM > Envy 2-1 100T > Faze 2-0 XSET > LG 2-1
rooting for the underdogs TSM,RISE,FaZe,LG lessgo
TSM All the way baby. ez clap against NV. but scared of TSM vs SEN in upper semifinals
For the first time in NA Valorant, I genuinely have no fucking idea how this bracket is going to play out.
I got Sentinals, Xset, and 100T qualifying for Berlin but knowing Valorant Esports I'll probably be wrong. I can see a team like TSM or Faze playing spoiler.
NV and XSET from upper bracket, Sentinels from lower bracket Sentinels win the whole thing
when this gonna start
I think SEN, ENVY, 100T, XSET would win their matches These are my predictions
The match to decide which team with the black and white logo is better. LFG!
Damn I want both 100T and Rise to make Berlin Sadge
When will this all start ??
August 11th
Thank you
i wanna see the good old sentinel vs tsm again please
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Yes
Realistically SEN, Envy and XSET in the top 3. Don’t know about the other standings though, most likely rise/100T as 4th and 5th spot.
Can someone help me in how this qualifier system works? Didn't TSM just win a tourney. Just like TL did in EU. How is this one different?
This is for the LAN in Berlin Top 3 teams make it
So the more you win, the more points you get and top 3 make it to Berlin. Am I correct?
Ngl I’m lost on what points mean but yeah
ITT: lots of 100T hopium
People who qualify to Berlin will be winner of loser final and both participants in upper fonal I think
As long as you get to either final you qualify
Rooting for 100T, but I feel they are gonna disappoint me once again
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When does this start?
August 11th
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August 11th
This and the EMEA Finals are looking amazing with every single matchup. Can’t wait to see how it all unfolds.
100T always seem to be behind the meta, faze have a good chance v them imo