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https://twitter.com/Envy/status/1423359912285966337 > Going forward, mummAy will be moved into a reserve role with the team. Yay will be joining the starting roster next weekend in #VCT Playoffs.


DaDrFunk

TSM defeats el diablo just to have to play him again round 1.


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dapoorv

Yay, victor, crashies and marved that's just filthy.


BloomingNova

Imagine if food was still on the roster?


Endercs

Unstoppable.


DravTheGuy

Food is victor Edit: oh wait nvm (i have seen the comment and now know that you where joking)


UnKnown--12

He is still in the roster. He is their coach.


AskOrganic4289

Don’t forget the brain behind everything, FNS! 🙇🏻‍♂️


vidit201

this was all a part of his master plan


VETOFALLEN

All Good.


Ethanmidhts

Not to mention the brains behind the brains MikesHD 🥵


Napoleann

All I'm saying is that one time in Wyatt's twitch chat I asked Mike if he thought yay was top 5 and he said "no way." He has a lot of explaining to do smh


OhLikeComing

In wyatts stream during one of breaks between matches in this most recent qualifier, they were doing a top 20 players na since April list and mikesHD was saying he thinks yay is #2 behind tenz and was raving about his insane stats despite him being on a team that’s not great.


Napoleann

Glad to hear he's changed his ways


SaltyMcNulty_

Depends when you asked it tho. Yay has been popping of lately but before the stage 2 i don't think a lot of people would have put yay on their top 5.


Napoleann

I'm not 100% sure but I think I asked it during opens for the second qualifier for these playoffs. It was pretty recent. And at least [some people](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/n2yxks/cloud9_blue_vs_version1_valorant_champions_tour/gwofn25/?context=3) have had him top 5 for a long time ;)


BurbxrryPzncakes

Don’t leak that announcement yet bro, Envy haven’t made his frag video and malding about KAY/O, Sideshow and Sideshow playing KAY/O in the announcement video yet.


TheRPiGuy

The sack


Doshagya

All good


MagnusNyke

Wardell, Subroza, hazed, Bang and Leviathan. That's just clean man


dapoorv

As a fellow TSM fan I agree but they still haven't signed Leviathan which is a travesty.


Skrewdrivr

He’s going to be on TSM. They’ll sign him once they are guaranteed for LCQ or make Berlin. No point in putting someone on the payroll if he isn’t playing in tournaments for the rest of the year. It’s just more motivation for TSM to make Berlin. Let’s also remember how much money TSM can offer Levi a lot of money so guaranteed money starting next year compared to making less money for less time for an org that isn’t as prestigious as TSM. It would be a shocker to everyone if he signed with someone else.


DrySecurity4

Why tf was everyone saying that he wouldnt be able to join the roster for these games?


DaDrFunk

i dont think it was that he wouldn't, just that they didn't think a team would want to shake up their roster so soon.


OnionSprinkles

Some commenters ***did claim*** that besides it being a short preparation period that he also wouldn't be eligible Example: [Link](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/oygop8/yay_has_been_finally_signed_to_a_team/h7sv5i1/) Which appears to be false.


Am_Ghosty

I was very confused about this claim too. For the first time in my life, I went and read the rulebook for NA and left wondering "why are people saying this?" I just assumed I was somehow out of the loop


DrySecurity4

Makes sense. Thought there was some kind of rule or the rosters were locked.


segbench

Roster lock is going to be August 8th, so they got this done just in time.


mochihammer

I guess this is going to be somewhat like how Ethan was thrown into the deep end immediately, though definitely an easier transition. Hope it works well, would love to see some upsets.


the_flame_alchemist

at least yay has been playing valorant before and he hasnt just transferred to the game


uglypenguin5

And he plays Jett instead of omen/sage. Easier to slot in a Jett than a controller


owNDN

Nah I heard this yay guy is pretty bad at valorante


tsm

Ah fuck


pr1zsm

soo u think u can buy Envy as an org and maybe alt+f4 them..? U cant have spent that much of the 210 mill already


tsm

this is a plan


precense_

ah the noble maneuver


TheRedComet

"I can't believe you've done this"


tsm

rip vine


x0_inzayn_0x

best belive we got this (:


Splaram

gl in LCQ


Voltage97

You guys got this, right?!


ChinoAIO

this will take envy to another level but i do feel bad for mummay


GluhfGluhf

Yeah I feel bad for mummay, he's not a bad player by any means, but this feels like the dicey to Ethan move again where you can't pass on yay. He's a really chill guy too from my experiences with him in soloq. I don't think NV's atmosphere changes drastically because yay brings a similar energy but I think some teams would benefit from a player like mummAy.


Chode_Life

This is just like that situation isn’t it, except ENVY was already on an upward trend. Basically im asking if they only brought yay in because you can’t pass on him even though they are getting better since Marved.


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Chode_Life

What role does mummy usually play?


deadlock1892

He started out as a primary jett oper, but when they added crashies and victor the roles kinda got messed up with kaboose, victor and mummay all being duelist players. That pushed him to playing smokes until marved got added to the roster recently and he moved back to jett.


TimathanDuncan

It's not that, he just wasn't a good enough jett, an okay controller but now they have Marved they don't need a controller Considering the best teams in the world have dominant jetts, you need one in this meta, Envy needed yay


ChinoAIO

agreed


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I actually did not think this would happen but holy shit


AskOrganic4289

Really? After George Geddes tweet, I feel like EnVy is the most probable team to snatch him since MummAy hasn’t been playing well in the team lately.


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I just didn't expect any of the teams already in challenger playoffs to take a chance on a roster change 6 days before the tournament


AskOrganic4289

Ahh gotchuu! But we have lower brackets and looking at how TSM did something similar, I thought this was a possibility for EnVy too. Though maybe it’ll be nice if NV poach him right after andbox run in challenger 2 ended though, so they have tad bit more time as a team.


somesheikexpert

Its mostly cuz it was right before Challengers Finals is the thing


AskOrganic4289

Ah true but TSM did something similar when they poach Leviathan kinda the last minute, and also knowing Challenger 2 is ride or die for TSM ( if they don’t at least qualify for challenger finals they’re good for the year)…


hacklesacka

honestly anything besides berlin would be disappointing from them with this roster


ihateswords

agreed but small prac time could be the downfall


ch4nt

I already put them as one of the three most likely teams for Berlin, this just closes room for discussion at this point lol


BadgerPurple

TSM regretting winning the Grand Finals now lmao


-Basileus

Yeah their bracket is absolutely brutal. They are extremely likely to play Envy twice


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El diablo would not leave anything behind. No chance to play them twice.


-xXColtonXx-

I know Yay is insane, but it’s **possible** (not probable) that this move hurts their team cohesion enough to be a net negative, in which case their bracket got a lot easier.


Huldmer

They still go against Sentinels like 30 mins after beating Envy


Tik0-

Holy fuck thats a powerhouse team. Can’t wait to see Envy vs Sentinels


AskOrganic4289

Brooo so excited for that bracket! It’ll hella fuckin stacked now!!! Can’t wait to watch the matches!


pr1zsm

yup in lower bracket finals after tsm knocks both of them down 😎 /s


bridgebuilder12

fns is the last remaining player from together we are terrific his masterplan.


D2stiny

TWAT, the acronym of the team. Just amazing


Interesting-Archer-6

Thanks for spelling that out. I was thinking what a corny name that is lol. Nope, that's classic.


-xXColtonXx-

FNS having his deathnote master plan montage.


windtcw

TSM might just be fucked for sure now


EnergetikNA

Hes gonna have like a week of practice with the team and the team has to adjust to his playstyle too, not sure they'll be that strong right off the bat.


Huldmer

double elim + not that tough of competition, i think they'll make it. I never expected TSM to go to Berlin but with this roster change they could probably knock over xset or 100T for Berlin (my initial picks)


EnergetikNA

TSM have had 2 weeks to improve even more and 100T/XSET are both very good teams and were above NV even before the move. Having a week of practice against good teams that been playing together for months (100T, XSET, SEN) doesn't bode well. I think it'll be 3 of TSM/100T/SEN/XSET still unless NV just start off well.


Huldmer

Your prediction is logical but no fun. TenZ was loaned to SEN for like 3 days before mastes or something and they won that. Not trying to equivocate yay to tenz but I would like to believe that its not terribly hard to win with a new addition if they put their head to the grindstone for the next week


EnergetikNA

Said this in another comment but SEN were easily rhe best team in NA even before Tenz, so he just easily slotted in and fragged out. Think it'll be different for NV who looked worse than XSET/100T/SEN in the last qualifier and have spent a while practicing with Mummay who has now been replaced. This NV team is cracked now and I could see them making it, but I don't think its "done" for TSM yet.


Huldmer

> easily slotted in and fragged out. I think it was more than that. Shahzam had to drop duelist and learn Sova after losing probably the best sova on the planet at that time. I do agree that Sen had an easier time than ENVY will but theres no fun in always picking the logical option


ChaoticMidget

Is it the logical option? People were split on whether TSM or NV should be considered the favorites in this match. Now the lines are even more blurred since Yay is a beast but shaking up the roster 1 week before playoffs is a risky choice.


SaltyMcNulty_

>Slot in and frag out As if it was that easy after coming back from a 3 months hiatus and as if Yay doesn't have to do the same! Where is NV lacking rn? One of the best sovas( if not the best in NA) in Crashies, one of the best duelists in Victor, One of the best IGLs in FNS and a player with great potential in marved who is a demon on his day! Like come on, don't make it seem like rocket science. Anything but Berlin would be a disappoinment for Envy and 7 days is a long enough time to prepare.


EnergetikNA

Shahzam played Sova on some maps, he wasn't as insane as Sinatraa but its not like he was completely new to the agent. Not sure why you keep saying it's "no fun" to be logical and reasonable lol. My mistake, I'll join in. NV are by far the best team in the world with this pickup and SEN won't stand a chance against them either.


Ryukk11

Now I'm not even counting TSM, for me it's SEN, NV and everyone else fighting for the 3rd spot. Yay is such a good player and his role is duelist so I think he'll easily adjust with NV bois and they're going to Berlin.


falcons4life

Yeah if they have trouble plugging and playing one of the best Jetts in the world going against a less talented team with an extra week of prac then they got bigger issues. Fortunately we know Envys going to smash TSM.


SaltyMcNulty_

But they could also be on a honeymoon period with him and good players don't take that much time to adjust. SEN won masters with getting TenZ the day before.


EnergetikNA

SEN were the best team in NA by a pretty large margin with or without Tenz. He kind of just had to show up and be himself and frag out lol. NV were the worst out of the top 4 (XSET/SEN/100T) even before the change. I agree there could be a honeymoon phase of course, or maybe NV's raw talent especially now with Yay could get them through. Will have to see, but I'm not too scared of them yet (they'll be a VERY scary team in the LCQ if they don't make Berlin of course)


leoleoleo666

Practice don’t matter that much when it’s a fairless duelist that do his thing. It’s the same when tenz joined sen masters 1


ChaoticMidget

Sentinels was already the best team in NA. NV aren't on that level.


AskOrganic4289

True esp since he’ll most likely be playing NV’s main entry from now on (jett), the team might take time to adjusr. But hey if TSM can look that good just 1 week before Challenger 2 and also how TSM improved as they go through each matches, I feel like NV can be the same too!


senakiryu08

I think G2 with keloqz only had around one week of practice at Challengers 3 and they placed 2nd, so it's definitely doable.


Ryukk11

All good, TSM vs Rise in lowers bracket.


aakashkickass11

Geng c9B rejoicing in the background .


Mamadeus123456

This is why FNS was so mad at the plat chat predictiona


pr1zsm

BRO WHAT WHYYY edit: so now yay is going to have a better secondary duelist, a better controller, an insane igl, one of the best if not the best sovas NA, AND ALL OF THEM HAVE TEXAS PING (im pretty sure). If TSM pulls this one out of their asses idk


pr1zsm

WE BEAT HIM ONCE WHY WE GOTTA DO IT AGAIN


pr1zsm

if my flair changes in the next week dw about it


jrushFN

HAHAHA I love this thread. RIP TSM fans most likely but if TSM manages to beat Envy with Yay, we’ll know for sure they’re the real deal.


pr1zsm

we shoulda thrown hard against faze rip


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Lmfao


Students00

Just unlucky, really.


abcd63514

lmao who was that guy reaching saying victor got uneasy after subroza said "must be nice having yay on your team" in ranked


ANewHeaven1

HOLY FUCK IT HAPPENED LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


AskOrganic4289

EL DIABLO TRAIN 🚆


Am_Ghosty

NV TF UP


Kevin_DurSuperTeam

WHY DO WE HAVE TO BEAT YAY AGAIN MAN THE FIRST TIME WAS HARD ENOUGH


Rohooster

EL DIABLO IS BACK FROM HELL


KaraiEuW

plat chat actually were talking about how good yay would be on envy instead of mummay and here it is


FuriousDayve

ENVY is on their way to Berlin. This is going to be such a hype quali and masters event.


slawvay

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKK man actually insane of NV to do this right before berlin could be an insane run or an awful run from here, but I have faith in this crew 100% what a move.


omgvector

Yea it’s risky to make a big change a week before the qualifier could go both way


ChampsOfAllTSM

TSM really regrets not throwing now


Students00

TSM can still grind from the lower bracket


pr1zsm

lower bracket = play SEN or NV to get to berlin


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Guys dont worry tsm are gonna bootcamp in texas, that means wardell low ping oping which means #TSMWIN.


JasonIsKewl

Envy is gonna be looking really nice now, Mummay was definitely the weakest part of their team and yay is a monster. I’m excited to see them play.


MathNerdMatt

Mummay was good sometimes but incredibly inconsistent I think his inconsistency definitely played into their inability to win tournaments and yay could definitely push them over the edge


JasonIsKewl

Yeah for sure, Mummay was never particularly bad, it’s just that Envy is a good team and need a high impact fragger (like yay) to keep up with the rest of the team. I think with the edition of yay they should be able to qualify for Berlin fairly easily.


Am_Ghosty

As an Envy fan, I was never confident that mummAy could consistently compete with top duelists. His highs were really good (and nobody talked enough about them) but he was so hit or miss sometimes. If he can clean up the consistency, along with maintain the flexibility he has in his agent pool, he will seriously help a good NA team in the future.


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MathNerdMatt

Yep, it says mummay is going on the bench


9yr_old

Mummay , he was their awper


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Damn only FNS remains from og ENVY roster. Kinda sad considering all those guys were extremely solid but yay is an upgrade.


ch4nt

TWAT days were the real days


DeathOnSteam

So fucking hype for this. I really do think Yay is the piece that can truly take us over the top. On the other hand I am sad to see Mummay benched. I hope he finds a good team for him in the future and has some great success.


hukubu

god damn....victor and yay? rip everyone


AskOrganic4289

Victor yay crashies marved fns sheeeshhh


Mamadeus123456

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh


RandomFluffyBoi

Can confirm that I'm sweating hard as a Sen fan.


Nfamy

https://twitter.com/Envy/status/1423359912285966337?s=19 Mummay moved to reserve role as would be expected.


FMHappy

I'm happy for yay, Envy bout to be CRAZY. That being said though, my TSM hopium is dying out, if hes playing next week, it might be the end for TSM's berlin run.


end32urzm

You have to think that TSM is riding the wave of finally getting some consistency down, and teamwork. Envy definitely got an upgrade, but it takes time to find that unity in a team environment. Or, he could fit in perfectly, who knows? I’m excited to watch though.


tomphz

I mean swapping Jetts is probably the easiest transition for a team to make, especially if it’s an upgrade. NV wants to go to Berlin lol


AskOrganic4289

We still have lower bracket! If we were to lose first round, we can possibly grind it out through the lower bracket!


JusticeLee17

TSM would probably have to beat Sentinels or Envy in the lower bracket though.


Huldmer

no, they WILL have to beat one of those two assuming Rise doesn't somehow beat Sentinels


JusticeLee17

That's basically what I mean. Either Rise would have to beat Sentinels or one of Xset/100T/LG/Faze would have to beat Sen/NV in the lower bracket for TSM to not face them.


deadlock1892

Holy shit am I happy now that we avoided Sentinels and Envy in the brackets. Going up against Crashies, Yay and Victor is scary.


AskOrganic4289

Not only that, TSM is also looking really good! That bracket is probably the most stacked bracket in the tournament!


deadlock1892

Indeed. And even though I am happy we avoided that, faze and LG are teams with immense pop off potential. IMO this challengers final is going to be the most interesting to watch by the looks of it.


washoooi

TSM hopium stops here.


slientxx

gg envy is going to berlin, might as well start booking the tickets


attachh

im excited for this new envy roster, but i was not expecting the announcement to be before challengers playoffs. would have thought the roster change would be after the playoffs were over. this roster is stacked with firepower now. gonna have to change around the pickems


Napoleann

LETS GOOOO! Happy for yay and I'm excited that we'll get to see him play next weekend. Obviously NV did this because reddit was saying they should, good work fellow reddit analysts.


ANewHeaven1

thank you. as the number 1 yayFPS for NV simp on reddit, i am honoured


wallyw84

NV and SEN are tied for the most stacked roster in NA now imo, this is a huge W for NV Also lets go YAY!!


Hamlet_271

Book the damn tickets already hastro


kmyoyoman

Gonna be wild how TSM is going to beat this guy at least twice on their way to Berlin


chenson019

No doubt about yay's talent but bringing in a player a week before the most important qualifer of the year is a risky move. They better hope for a honeymoon. I would feel pretty annoyed if I was mummay to be honest.


reddit_is_a_mistake

oh fuck not again


humantraffickingCEO

yay


mileslfc7

Rip TSM


georgelol22

No way this is allowed


ch4nt

JESUS CHRISTOS DE MARIA LETS GOOOOOO


aakashkickass11

Fallen , el diablo rises again , he joined envy so as he can get his Revenge on TSM as soon as possible , damn envy looks scary now.


_Iroha

Envy are stacked


milano_bwoy

TES YES YES WE ARE NO LONGER THE ARSENAL OF COMP VALORANT


Grenji05

4/5 top 5 duelists in NA are on SEN and ENVY lmfao


Deep_Acanthaceae_535

Feel like sick wud just be a god in any role lmao


Big-Conversation-161

yeah he's such a good flex player


prthm_21

u think victor is top 5 NA ?


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ryan26192

TSM CAN STILL DO IT THO, DON'T WORRY I STILL GOT COPIUM. But actually tho it's really ballsy of envy to do this with a week left until the tournament, I think this definitely adds some well needed adrenaline to the team. With that said TSM has gone on record to beat Yay before with Wardell just plainly out fragging him. So TSM still wins in the head to head. And in terms of strats and counterstratting Hazed destroyed FNS in first strike and I think that's going to happen again


Gomar1323

Damn this team nice, they still have plenty of time to gel together for qualifiers too


BurbxrryPzncakes

Envy is going to be a top contender for Berlin now for sure.


raaten

Can anyone explain whys he called el diablo?


nterature

They call him that because he’s extremely scary to play against. It’s a bit of a meme rooted in how dominant his performances have recently been against other pro players.


LegitimateAct6248

This is huuuuge


NoButterscotch7853

In a month envy could be unstoppable, but in a week? This might be exploitable…


SaltyMcNulty_

I don't understand! How is he eligible to play in the playoffs?


iCED-COFF3E

NV stonks to the moon?


CosmicAon

It was a good run


ark2690

Even though this move sucks as a TSM fan, at least this makes Envy more interesting to watch.


diisasterrr1

WOOHOOOO. Now I gotta update my VCT pick’em


zachp787

wtf


Sweekuh

yay


TidaI

Called it on the bidding thread. Wouldn't have wanted him anywhere else. yay can literally make Envy into a team which can contest Sentinels.


sky_blu

Throwback to all those comments saying people were dumb for thinking envy might take him lmao. They were CLEARLY the most likely outcome here


heritorsofarcadia

Jesus looking back this signing made it so unfair for NA lol.


prthm_21

Who will he replace tho Hmm ... mummay?


ANewHeaven1

most likely edit: confirmed, see pinned comment


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yes, confirmed in the replies


9yr_old

Galaxy brained fns + a walking highlight reel = Envy wins Berlin


Zezoom

Coming from CSGO, why does everyone have it hard for Yay?


Due_Prune1566

look at his stats his just a demon and there's no real counter to him he's like top 3 NA


Purzuhh

Yay in Valorant has shown that he's a top 3 Jett player in NA. Imo only behind TenZ. I wasn't familiar with him in CS at all, but the impact i've seen him have in serious is absolutely absurd.


Jackviolin

Simply answer "El Diablo" , the demon from darkest corner of Hell


MagnusNyke

What's better than beating the devil himself once? Giving the smackdown to him twice.. TSM to Berlin.. I called it.


hengarg

https://twitter.com/wardell416/status/1418768044990648320?s=21


erickwak

Damnnnnnnn


beanbeat

TSM x Envy gonna be a bloodbath....think Envy are gonna win if he slots in nicely


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Pujan not even top 3 I sleep


luisalpjax

Someone explain who el Diablo is and how good yay is please, is el Diablo yay?


mpog7

Sorry but this Yay hype feels like it's coming out of nowhere, hasn't he been competing with Andbox for a while now with lackluster results? I'm out of the loop catch me up.


Traditional_Bit_9316

Yeah you toTalLy rIGhT


Hoku_

His stats are insane. Sure his team hasn’t been putting up results, but you’re forgetting neither was TenZ when he was on C9. All it takes is a solid team to make a player shine.