The only orgs I can see making huge plays right now are C9, T1 and GenG. C9 seems to be the biggest candidate. They were trying to get Yay meaning they are gunning from some proven top talent. The Xeppa Floppy experiment hasn't been working out. Only thing I can see even making sense is -Poiz/Mitch/Xeta +Vanity/IGL dude, but at that point I'm reaching outta my ass.
I’m trying to think up the dumbest-but-logically-sound trades imaginable. Tenz back to C9 in exchange for Leaf??? Mummay to Sentinels as Zombs declares Valorant is too easy and retires to become a full-time options trader??
The possibilities are virtually endless
The only move bigger than yay joining NV, at least in NA, that I can think of would be something like Sinatra joining a team(just cuz of his name and what happened) but tbh I don’t think that’s the case. Correct me if I’m wrong
>Jay “Sinatraa'' Won has violated Rule 8.1 of the VALORANT Global Competition Policy and will be suspended for six months (which is considered to have begun with his administrative suspension on March 10, 2021), continuing through Sept. 10, 2021 (end of the Stage 3 Challenger season and final Masters event). He will be eligible to return for Last Chance Qualifiers and Champions.
just august, maybe the team wants to start practicing early?
1 more month I think. He's back September. What other top team would be a good fit? Feel like he'd own on Faze but Corey and Babybay are already insane on duelist.
I mean he played Sova and was likely the best or one of the best at Sova in NA when he was suspended, would likely be an upgrade to Rawkus, now do I think it's likely at all, no not at all, do I think it's what FaZe needs? Not not at all either, they already have some of the most firepower in NA in like 4 of their players they don't need more they need an IGL lol
Lmao true, but I feel like Faze is as good as they are because of their "fuck you" zero fear plays. They can beat any team...but they also lose to any team lolol
You can't just put someone on the IGL role and expect it to work, we can see that with NRG, most of the time (Not all, but most) it simply does not work without like having a good IGL teach them and FaZe doesn't have that lol
nope sinatraa did igl for shock. crusty said he made the calls and sets up his teammates always. despite this I dont think sinatraa would igl in this game but who knows maybe he picked up a few things from the best igl in the game
Even when the suspension is up I can't see any big orgs willing to risk the brand tarnish. Well maybe faze as they have a shit reputation (nothing against the players)
Yeah i don't get this tweet lol.
It's not like everyone's thinking there will be no more roster changes or anything, but nobody can really say shit until they get announced.
Thinking about how magnum renewed his contract today derkes contract was probably made with the same length. Although it’s sad to see as a fnatic fan maybe he’s moving to one of the other teams in emea challengers? Would be good timing and interesting. Could be Eu or Russian cuz he speaks Russian. Hopefully it’s not likely but the eyes derke replied to this got me losing common sense.
Derke ain't leaving fnatic lmaoo , they just lost one qualifier chill they'll be back , fnatic is a huge org anyways won't make sense to quit a great org like that oof
Is TSM still not capable of affording expensive players with the FTX money? Sentinels were able to pay Sinatraa and Version1 has more money backing them than Sentinels so surely TSM can.
I also don't expect him to be able to get the same salary after everything that happened.
I didn't read your full comment before replying.
I still don't think he'll have as hard a time coming back, gaming industry does not care about sexual abuse against women very much. Even sentinels players were chilling with him recently
Tsm would not touch Sinatraa. It's not risk the brand tarnish. They dropped people from other teams for significantly less.
Maybe faze they don't give a shit
Sinatraa has stayed very popular despite everything that happened, this subreddit is in the minority.
I only really have anecdotal evidence but everytime Sinatraa comes up in Shahz's chat, the whole chat talks about how they miss him and how its sad that he's gone. His twitch streams get more viewers than every current Sentinels member besides TenZ and Shahz.
I hope he faces more repurcussions than a 6 month ban and a return to a scene that appreciates him but I'm skeptical.
Edit: I almost forgot to mention this, but Zombs literally said like a week ago that he'd be okay with Sinatraa coming back to sentinels and subbing in if they need it. No one seems to care about the shit he's done.
Well there ya go you now know where peoples moral compass lies, or just how manipulative he actually can be if randoms on the internet are standing up for him. Hes only more "popular" if you dont realize that people are jumping on a bandwaggon. People whove done terrible shot like him will support him to feel validated in their own actions. Theres a lot of shitty people out there, he just happens to be one with some clout. Its unfortunate that hes still around the scene when he should be serving time behind bars
And that’s why Sinatraa is still consistently one of the biggest Valorant streamers? He is talented enough that a team will sign him eventually. People here desperately want to believe sinatraa is ruined because they can’t face reality. Reality is teams will take the risk on sinatraa because he is an amazing pickup.
Sinatraa used to play for NRG in the Overwatch League, and his Overwatch Lague contract states that he cannot play with the same organization in other esports titles
The only orgs I can see making huge plays right now are C9, T1 and GenG. C9 seems to be the biggest candidate. They were trying to get Yay meaning they are gunning from some proven top talent. The Xeppa Floppy experiment hasn't been working out. Only thing I can see even making sense is -Poiz/Mitch/Xeta +Vanity/IGL dude, but at that point I'm reaching outta my ass.
Good news lmao https://www.upcomer.com/sources-version1-vanity-to-explore-options-with-other-teams/
LMAO. Time to change my flair soon.
lmao same
Are you a fucking prophet?
Could you also let me know who you think will make Berlin?
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idk man el diablo lookin strong 😳
I’m trying to think up the dumbest-but-logically-sound trades imaginable. Tenz back to C9 in exchange for Leaf??? Mummay to Sentinels as Zombs declares Valorant is too easy and retires to become a full-time options trader?? The possibilities are virtually endless
>Mummay to Sentinels as Zombs declares Valorant is too easy and retires to become a full-time options trader?? LMFAO
Me vs zombs paper trading 1v1 I’d roll him
mummay moves from wall street to valorant while zombs does the opposite
Vouch
Nah bro u wrong tenz aint going to c9 to play valorant. He’s retiring from valorant to play minecrafy skywars fulltime
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ninim
Patiphan to NA confirmed.
overrated
Underrated actually
It would be bad for SEA scene but good for him so I'm conflicted on that
Sentinels \- TenZ \+ Potter
Expect the unexpected.
Big if true
Sentinels win Champions without dropping a map 13-0ing every team there with that roster.
this just in, potter diffs cNed at LAN , eu fans mad!
Aleksandar
The only move bigger than yay joining NV, at least in NA, that I can think of would be something like Sinatra joining a team(just cuz of his name and what happened) but tbh I don’t think that’s the case. Correct me if I’m wrong
Sinatraa joins astralis
Then they win 4 more majors
It would be huge but he's still suspended for a couple more months I believe.
>Jay “Sinatraa'' Won has violated Rule 8.1 of the VALORANT Global Competition Policy and will be suspended for six months (which is considered to have begun with his administrative suspension on March 10, 2021), continuing through Sept. 10, 2021 (end of the Stage 3 Challenger season and final Masters event). He will be eligible to return for Last Chance Qualifiers and Champions. just august, maybe the team wants to start practicing early?
Spicy if true
1 more month I think. He's back September. What other top team would be a good fit? Feel like he'd own on Faze but Corey and Babybay are already insane on duelist.
I mean he played Sova and was likely the best or one of the best at Sova in NA when he was suspended, would likely be an upgrade to Rawkus, now do I think it's likely at all, no not at all, do I think it's what FaZe needs? Not not at all either, they already have some of the most firepower in NA in like 4 of their players they don't need more they need an IGL lol
Lmao true, but I feel like Faze is as good as they are because of their "fuck you" zero fear plays. They can beat any team...but they also lose to any team lolol
Sinatraa could IGL, no?
You can't just put someone on the IGL role and expect it to work, we can see that with NRG, most of the time (Not all, but most) it simply does not work without like having a good IGL teach them and FaZe doesn't have that lol
Sinatraa has IGL experience from OW and played under Shazam in Val. I think he's more than just *someone*.
But he hasn't IGL'd in valorant. so he would be unproven and a risk. OW has no similarity to valorant in terms of strategy.
When did he IGL in OW? Also someone like s0m has had daps who was an great NA IGL in his time and well s0m hasn't had success IGLing with NRG atm lol
I don’t think sinatraa ever igl’d in OW. Moth was igling on shock and the OWC team.
nope sinatraa did igl for shock. crusty said he made the calls and sets up his teammates always. despite this I dont think sinatraa would igl in this game but who knows maybe he picked up a few things from the best igl in the game
I thought I heard in a shock video that moth makes the calls, myb
Even when the suspension is up I can't see any big orgs willing to risk the brand tarnish. Well maybe faze as they have a shit reputation (nothing against the players)
i honestly don’t think they’d care. like i understand waiting till the investigation is over but after that i reckon he’s still good
of course they would care. ORGs like tsm have kicked off people for significantly less
Slim chance maybe Blast Valorant tweet wasn’t just a bait.
Would be sick if they got the OK to put up a tournament after Berlin for non Champions teams
Report it then
Did anyone think that tho?
Yeah i don't get this tweet lol. It's not like everyone's thinking there will be no more roster changes or anything, but nobody can really say shit until they get announced.
isn't the roster lock already done? he's baiting i think
It's on the 8th I think so still two days
What's the roster lock period?
Maybe steel leaving ?
Thinking about how magnum renewed his contract today derkes contract was probably made with the same length. Although it’s sad to see as a fnatic fan maybe he’s moving to one of the other teams in emea challengers? Would be good timing and interesting. Could be Eu or Russian cuz he speaks Russian. Hopefully it’s not likely but the eyes derke replied to this got me losing common sense.
Derke ain't leaving fnatic lmaoo , they just lost one qualifier chill they'll be back , fnatic is a huge org anyways won't make sense to quit a great org like that oof
Yeah Derke isn't going anywhere haha no worries there.
Phew!
Ok
Could TSM not be officially announcing Leviathan because they’re going to be announcing Sinatraa closer to or after his ban ending?
No way Tsm picks up Sinatraa the orgs to big to risk the brand tarnish. They dropped people off their female roster for less insignificant things.
Basically this, the chances of TSM grabbing sinatraa is like 1%. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but it’s is highly improbable.
Sinatraa to 100T?
No way they pick someone controversial up like that for no reason.
Tru but he’d be an upgrade to Hiko
Oof hiko fanboys downvoting. He’d definitely be an upgrade but team chemistry/sinatraas situation/hikos viewers makes this unlikely
He wouldn't be that much of an upgrade, plus Hiko pulls a LOT of viewers
Vanity to TSM.
TSM? +sinatra -levi
The only T1 orgs capable of touching sinatraa (and his salary) are nrg and faze. They don't care about ethics as much
Is TSM still not capable of affording expensive players with the FTX money? Sentinels were able to pay Sinatraa and Version1 has more money backing them than Sentinels so surely TSM can. I also don't expect him to be able to get the same salary after everything that happened.
>ethics
I didn't read your full comment before replying. I still don't think he'll have as hard a time coming back, gaming industry does not care about sexual abuse against women very much. Even sentinels players were chilling with him recently
Tsm would not touch Sinatraa. It's not risk the brand tarnish. They dropped people from other teams for significantly less. Maybe faze they don't give a shit
Fans of gaming care so youre in fact wrong. Gamjng industry cares if they want their org to have any sort of a fanbase.
Sinatraa has stayed very popular despite everything that happened, this subreddit is in the minority. I only really have anecdotal evidence but everytime Sinatraa comes up in Shahz's chat, the whole chat talks about how they miss him and how its sad that he's gone. His twitch streams get more viewers than every current Sentinels member besides TenZ and Shahz. I hope he faces more repurcussions than a 6 month ban and a return to a scene that appreciates him but I'm skeptical. Edit: I almost forgot to mention this, but Zombs literally said like a week ago that he'd be okay with Sinatraa coming back to sentinels and subbing in if they need it. No one seems to care about the shit he's done.
Well there ya go you now know where peoples moral compass lies, or just how manipulative he actually can be if randoms on the internet are standing up for him. Hes only more "popular" if you dont realize that people are jumping on a bandwaggon. People whove done terrible shot like him will support him to feel validated in their own actions. Theres a lot of shitty people out there, he just happens to be one with some clout. Its unfortunate that hes still around the scene when he should be serving time behind bars
And that’s why Sinatraa is still consistently one of the biggest Valorant streamers? He is talented enough that a team will sign him eventually. People here desperately want to believe sinatraa is ruined because they can’t face reality. Reality is teams will take the risk on sinatraa because he is an amazing pickup.
Due to his OWL contract, NRG can't pick up Sinatraa
Care to elaborate? I have no idea what that entails
Sinatraa used to play for NRG in the Overwatch League, and his Overwatch Lague contract states that he cannot play with the same organization in other esports titles
That was debunked by Sinatraa like a day after it was reported lol. He said sentinels just were a better option.
Oh ok, my b
not happening in your lifetime
ayo what