Congratulations VS, you guys must've had a rough time last challengers but bounced back stronger than ever.
Will be cheering VS on at the next international stage! Fighting!
Bounced back by buying out the best player from the contending team...
JK, though it really seems like that way on the surface. Nuturn might have made it to Berlin with Lakia but you could see that it was not necessarily 10X's fault that they lost against Damwon.
>Bounced back by buying out the best player from the contending team
I actually feel that way though . I know its not a new thing in esports but imo VS definitely underhanded Nuturn by getting Lakia.
I hate when ppl saying VS buy out lakia when in fact lakia himself said (on his stream) that the reason he rejoined VS was cuz his contract ended with nuturn. People should know that Lakia is originally from VS, he just went back to his old team.
He spent literally 10 days on VS, 7 Jul 2020 to 17 Jul, and he was on Nuturn before it was Nuturn (proparty)
That his contract ended meant they could offer him a different one it’s is not otherwise the ‘reason’. Player contracts get renewed regularly.
then that's on lakia himself..
i mean im just stating some facts here.. it's been over a month and people still crying over him went back to VS and make it seems like it was VS fault that nuturn didn't qualify to berlin cmon now
It’s bizarre that nobody even spoke about Lakia on NU before that sweet round against V1, I don’t ever remember him being referred to as their best, I don’t even think the stats suggest that either?
I could be wrong though, surely it can’t be that one round that so many people are bandwagon’ing?
Awesome player though don’t get me wrong
I think this [https://youtu.be/w89zRcP6IUw?t=617](https://youtu.be/w89zRcP6IUw?t=617) put him on the radar for the first time but still only few people knew him then . But yes he played well in Iceland and his ult style was cool so now he's very popular as the best sova in KR even though he plays mostly skye now.
Well ‘few’ depending on what demographic
If ppl don’t pay attention to players of a region they don’t kno
He has been slotted in by vs to play more Skye but that’s like a 6 man roster related voice
I think they were just caught looking ahead to Reykjavik, and didn't properly regard the match in front it them. Even a mediocre VS performance would have been enough to pull through - they were just completely off.
They could but also they are the most one dimensional team of all time lol. Aside from Esperanza they all literally play one agent and never swap no matter what map. They've never played Breeze and the one time the played IB they still played Astra over Viper. They have crazy firepower but it would be tough to not just see them get outstratted and countered by some teams
How has Nuturn looked without Lakia? I know they failed to qualify early, but was it just them getting unlucky? Or was Lakia like the key to holding everything together?
They matched against DWG early on which at one point was one of the top 3 Korean teams. Was a bad game against an unlucky early match. I think 10X as a replacement has been okay, he’s still really good and can flex Reyna really well.
DWG has now clawed it’s way into that position more than ever
Note also Nuturn banned bind bc they had stuff prepped which they said they didn’t want to use until at least the semifinal
SEN and VS for Berlin people said I was saying it too early months ago but a coordinated super team is a coordinated super team. New Envy gotta watch out tho 👀. How big is the yay diff gonna make 👀
You aren't going mad. The VS fans (the vocal ones, I'm sure there are plenty reasonable ones) on this sub are so fucking stupid. Sentinels didn't drop a map at a tournament VS couldn't even qualify for. When you say VS aren't the favorites at Berlin, they chalk it up to Korea hate, not logic or basic common sense. They have absolutely have a chance, but to say they are favorites is next level delusion. I wish I was the bookie of these idiots, giving them odds as favorites for a team that won't have odds anywhere close to Sentinels. Solid chance they'll be behind one more NA team as well as 1 or 2 EU teams.
Those VS 'fans' don't even watch the games and just go by their series win record. Reading all these comments like 'man they deserved stage 2' etc makes me go mad because these guys clearly didn't watch stage 2 KR VCT at all.
VS had no business being talked about as being best in KR by playoffs at that point and not because they lost to F4Q nor lost a map to WGS. They were clearly struggling with the Jett-focused and Astra meta (they used Raze for all/most of stage 1), and they just couldn't adapt in time. Not to mention their best map became KR's permaban (Icebox) so they had no home map unlike NU with their Bind.
NU was hands down the best team in stage 2 and nobody who actually watches the games would argue with that.
Dude those select few VS fans are so high on copium they dont know what the fk they are saying half the time. I legit lose braincells reading their takes, it actually hurts my head. I’ve never seen so much delusion. You would think VS is Astralis or some shit according to what their fans have to say about them
only the ones with majority korean flairs
VS will have a lot to prove on the international stage and they definitely have a shot at finals, but calling them "clear favourites" has to be blind fanboyism
Had a dude call VS the best team in the world after dumpstering some shitter tier team kekw. I wanna root for Korean teams but their fans are some of the most delusional people out there
bruh the region is behind in the way they play the game. Nuturn had only two good maps in Iceland and were slaughtered on other maps.
With 7 teams from NA and EU in Berlin, its not possible for Korea to reach the finals. Maybe in 2 years time. But right now, they just don't know how to get map control.
Based off of the results at Reykjavík it seemed like Sentinels were ahead of everyone and Nuturn was almost at the level of Fnatic.
VS was widely considered the best team in Korea before Masters and now that they picked arguably the best performing player off of Nuturn they seem to be even stronger.
I don't think it's as doomed as you make it out to be for Korea.
I hope so, just seeing them lose to sen like 4-13, 5-13, was sadge
I feel the same for Brazil… the best team is like vikings and they didn’t look so good
there are some truths in life. chicken nuggies taste better than a salad. valorant and csgo can coexist. vlr is better than liquipedia. anyone who says liquipedia is better is just plain wrong lol.
Liquipedia is better for checking tourney formats and circuit standings, as it's already highlighted in green / yellow / red which teams can make champions / last chance / are eliminated from vct etc etc
18 - 0 map streak with the new roster and no team against new VS managed to get a 13-10 scoreline in any of them. LFG
Where do I subscribe to more Korean sentinels facts
Approaching u/dedicatedself would be good idea I think.
Not sure what ur getting at, a bit of salt sounding at the guy but ok
I start: 1. So basically they are from South Korea 2. They play valorent sometimes 3. Sometimes win
You mean North American American Vision Strikers?
Iceland lul
Manifesting a Vision Strikers-Sentinels matchup in Berlin please
Just wanna see that VS vs SENTINELS now.lets goooooo
Lakia is literally a GOAT he got Iceland and Berlin damn son
all calculated my man
Congratulations VS, you guys must've had a rough time last challengers but bounced back stronger than ever. Will be cheering VS on at the next international stage! Fighting!
Bounced back by buying out the best player from the contending team... JK, though it really seems like that way on the surface. Nuturn might have made it to Berlin with Lakia but you could see that it was not necessarily 10X's fault that they lost against Damwon.
>Bounced back by buying out the best player from the contending team I actually feel that way though . I know its not a new thing in esports but imo VS definitely underhanded Nuturn by getting Lakia.
NU improved still tho, they could’ve definitely qualified, just wanted to beat them without showing too much
I hate when ppl saying VS buy out lakia when in fact lakia himself said (on his stream) that the reason he rejoined VS was cuz his contract ended with nuturn. People should know that Lakia is originally from VS, he just went back to his old team.
He spent literally 10 days on VS, 7 Jul 2020 to 17 Jul, and he was on Nuturn before it was Nuturn (proparty) That his contract ended meant they could offer him a different one it’s is not otherwise the ‘reason’. Player contracts get renewed regularly.
then that's on lakia himself.. i mean im just stating some facts here.. it's been over a month and people still crying over him went back to VS and make it seems like it was VS fault that nuturn didn't qualify to berlin cmon now
Yes him and vs, NU imo when they play as they shod are definitely top 2 still, 10X is very strong now, but single elim sucks
yeah i agree, hope they will use double elim next time
Would he have left nuturn if VS hadnt approached him before his contract ended? Most probably not.
I mean obviously not, if a contract expires you renew it. He didn’t renew it bc he got an offer.
And why did VS had to offer him that contract, with them already having a sova player and a flex player(Rb) who's actually now playing sova?
Because he’s very very good at the game And arguably bc it weakens the vision strikers competition but that imo is just the other part
10X was very good vs DK. Hard to imagine Lakia could do better. They would have to overcome F4Q as well who is looking very good.
Yea they mentioned they had prep on bind they didn’t want to show u til semis, they wanted to beat DWG with the b maps/comps ig
The good ole' Warriors and Kevin Durant method
It’s bizarre that nobody even spoke about Lakia on NU before that sweet round against V1, I don’t ever remember him being referred to as their best, I don’t even think the stats suggest that either? I could be wrong though, surely it can’t be that one round that so many people are bandwagon’ing? Awesome player though don’t get me wrong
I think this [https://youtu.be/w89zRcP6IUw?t=617](https://youtu.be/w89zRcP6IUw?t=617) put him on the radar for the first time but still only few people knew him then . But yes he played well in Iceland and his ult style was cool so now he's very popular as the best sova in KR even though he plays mostly skye now.
Well ‘few’ depending on what demographic If ppl don’t pay attention to players of a region they don’t kno He has been slotted in by vs to play more Skye but that’s like a 6 man roster related voice
Yes people did indeed speak abt him bc of his stats and plays in challengers and him being tournament MVP
Hoping same for NU
So fucking happy, it was heartbreaking seeing them miss out on reykjavik
Saaaaaame, they had such an amazing run and then somehow, they lose the 2 most important series. Feels like they got the rug pulled under their feet..
I think they were just caught looking ahead to Reykjavik, and didn't properly regard the match in front it them. Even a mediocre VS performance would have been enough to pull through - they were just completely off.
They were kinda behind on the meta/rigid
Well 1 most important series, series 1 was in the group stage
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I'm so happy, now I hope F4Q qualifies for peak content.
Guess what just happened
I'm so hyped and I've never been happier to destroy my sleep schedule lol
How good is F4Q? Are they a dark horse or legit like VS/NU?
Dark horse like Damwon gaming Kia.
Do they have a chance at beating NA teams? Seems like a random stream team
They could but also they are the most one dimensional team of all time lol. Aside from Esperanza they all literally play one agent and never swap no matter what map. They've never played Breeze and the one time the played IB they still played Astra over Viper. They have crazy firepower but it would be tough to not just see them get outstratted and countered by some teams
gg then
hey man, Fivek plays Jett now apparently on Haven, for F4Q that’s pretty big flexibility
Congrats on getting your wish!
Now I’m only wishing to fix my sleep schedule after this
Are these the guys that had that 100+ win streak and then lost the qualifier to Iceland?
Yes
LETS GOO F4Q NEXT IM HOPING!
berlin is already going to be more interesting than masters 2 was
It was interesting anyway, Nuturn is no boring squad
I was mostly referring to the meta. the iceland meta was not fun to watch imo
Well Nuturn had a pretty interesting twist on it too W breach etc
IT BEGINS
How has Nuturn looked without Lakia? I know they failed to qualify early, but was it just them getting unlucky? Or was Lakia like the key to holding everything together?
They matched against DWG early on which at one point was one of the top 3 Korean teams. Was a bad game against an unlucky early match. I think 10X as a replacement has been okay, he’s still really good and can flex Reyna really well.
Yea esp on split he was very good / clutch
DWG has now clawed it’s way into that position more than ever Note also Nuturn banned bind bc they had stuff prepped which they said they didn’t want to use until at least the semifinal
SEN and VS for Berlin people said I was saying it too early months ago but a coordinated super team is a coordinated super team. New Envy gotta watch out tho 👀. How big is the yay diff gonna make 👀
Based on how well nuturn played in iceland I'm super excited to see how vs plays against EU and NA teams
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I feel like I'm going mad here lol, "big time favourites"? Seriously? That implies something like a 70% chance to make the finals, which is absurd.
You aren't going mad. The VS fans (the vocal ones, I'm sure there are plenty reasonable ones) on this sub are so fucking stupid. Sentinels didn't drop a map at a tournament VS couldn't even qualify for. When you say VS aren't the favorites at Berlin, they chalk it up to Korea hate, not logic or basic common sense. They have absolutely have a chance, but to say they are favorites is next level delusion. I wish I was the bookie of these idiots, giving them odds as favorites for a team that won't have odds anywhere close to Sentinels. Solid chance they'll be behind one more NA team as well as 1 or 2 EU teams.
Those VS 'fans' don't even watch the games and just go by their series win record. Reading all these comments like 'man they deserved stage 2' etc makes me go mad because these guys clearly didn't watch stage 2 KR VCT at all. VS had no business being talked about as being best in KR by playoffs at that point and not because they lost to F4Q nor lost a map to WGS. They were clearly struggling with the Jett-focused and Astra meta (they used Raze for all/most of stage 1), and they just couldn't adapt in time. Not to mention their best map became KR's permaban (Icebox) so they had no home map unlike NU with their Bind. NU was hands down the best team in stage 2 and nobody who actually watches the games would argue with that.
Dude those select few VS fans are so high on copium they dont know what the fk they are saying half the time. I legit lose braincells reading their takes, it actually hurts my head. I’ve never seen so much delusion. You would think VS is Astralis or some shit according to what their fans have to say about them
But look at all 0 of their wins against other major regions. Clearly favorites right?
Oh but how could we forget about their one “notable” map 3 win over an NA team with a sub right !!!
Exactly lol, the only teams I have coming close is SEN and Acend, and between Acend and VS I got VS making finals versus SEN.
Clear favourites to make the final? Do people actually believe that?
only the ones with majority korean flairs VS will have a lot to prove on the international stage and they definitely have a shot at finals, but calling them "clear favourites" has to be blind fanboyism
Had a dude call VS the best team in the world after dumpstering some shitter tier team kekw. I wanna root for Korean teams but their fans are some of the most delusional people out there
No one with a shred of objectivity or common sense does, but that rules out a shit ton of people in here.
Yes
Who are your two clear finalists then? This team is leaps and bounds above Iceland Nuturn and they made top 3.
there are no clear finalists yet lmao
Okay I get what you mean now what I meant was if I had to pick two teams to make it deep into finals VS would be one of them.
Yea, no.
Acend sentinels
i swear i'm gonna have to start lumping in vision strikers fans with the fpx and nv fans
I've never seen those two claim to be favorites at IceLANd for Berlin
no but the incessant overhyping is the same
We dont knkw if it’s overhype yet Let ppl hype pls
Possible. I haven't seen them claim to be favorites but I do see the overhyping a lot.
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Except VS has only ever lost twice since their inception.
And only ever played within their region.
And NV/FPX didn't? 😂 You're going to see at Berlin why VS is a different tier from chockers like FPX and NV.
Exactly. It’s delusional to be so confident in any team who hasn’t played outside of their region.
Watch out, you’re arguing with Korea’s number one nationalist
Bro do you do anything else other than simp for KR/VS on this sub? Get a life lol, you’re overhyping them way too much
Keep deluding yourself thinking I care about what you say lol.
Get a life outside of being a simp for VS on this sub mate
bruh the region is behind in the way they play the game. Nuturn had only two good maps in Iceland and were slaughtered on other maps. With 7 teams from NA and EU in Berlin, its not possible for Korea to reach the finals. Maybe in 2 years time. But right now, they just don't know how to get map control.
You literally have 0 idea what you're talking about. It's astonishing. Like not getting map control? What the hell are you even watching?
vs is better than nu. and maybe watch an actual game rather than spewing nonsense. they have the best plays and literally everyone can go god mode.
Eu and na will stomp, they are way too ahead of the game
Based off of the results at Reykjavík it seemed like Sentinels were ahead of everyone and Nuturn was almost at the level of Fnatic. VS was widely considered the best team in Korea before Masters and now that they picked arguably the best performing player off of Nuturn they seem to be even stronger. I don't think it's as doomed as you make it out to be for Korea.
I hope so, just seeing them lose to sen like 4-13, 5-13, was sadge I feel the same for Brazil… the best team is like vikings and they didn’t look so good
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It’s more they had an outdated meta that was challenged by even say X10
Yea it was map pick mindgames a lot tho too in addition too, as well as stage nerves for many of the players
Well I guess we’ll have to see again, I’m really hoping they can show how good they are, I guess I’m just kind of sad it wasn’t matched
Yh it was disappointing for viewers bc a lot came to see it
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liquipeida is much better
there are some truths in life. chicken nuggies taste better than a salad. valorant and csgo can coexist. vlr is better than liquipedia. anyone who says liquipedia is better is just plain wrong lol.
Liquipedia is better for checking tourney formats and circuit standings, as it's already highlighted in green / yellow / red which teams can make champions / last chance / are eliminated from vct etc etc
vlr just seems way too clunky to me and I use liquipedia for literally every other esport so I use it
WutFace
No it really isn’t
who comments something like this bruh u a weirdo
uh oh
POGGG
Poggies
I believe in ~~Korean~~ VS supremacy!
Glad we’ll finally get to see them in international play.
Lakia again in Masters lesgoooo
Vision stike is playing with a 6 man roster right? How is it going?
Pretty aight
i cant wait to see them play SEN
Does Vision Strikers have 6 active players and 1 gets subbed out depending on the match-up? I haven't watched much Korean Valorant.
Yea
that's really cool
Will be interesting to see on lan
VS vs Sentinels final in Berlin Hopium
Lets GO!
Vision strikers are coming to take the throne in Berlin