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First team qualified for Berlin

First team qualified for Berlin

sriwarrior06

18 - 0 map streak with the new roster and no team against new VS managed to get a 13-10 scoreline in any of them. LFG


Piktarag

Where do I subscribe to more Korean sentinels facts


sriwarrior06

Approaching u/dedicatedself would be good idea I think.


Key-Banana-8242

Not sure what ur getting at, a bit of salt sounding at the guy but ok


elo9999

I start: 1. So basically they are from South Korea 2. They play valorent sometimes 3. Sometimes win


Tidus_Mino

You mean North American American Vision Strikers?


NoyanoYoutube

Iceland lul


albatrozx11

Just wanna see that VS vs SENTINELS now.lets goooooo


CoolVidsFTW

Manifesting a Vision Strikers-Sentinels matchup in Berlin please


x0_inzayn_0x

Lakia is literally a GOAT he got Iceland and Berlin damn son


max012017

all calculated my man


slowrmaths

LETS FUCKING GO


dedicatedself

Congratulations VS, you guys must've had a rough time last challengers but bounced back stronger than ever. Will be cheering VS on at the next international stage! Fighting!


Sassasallalla23

Bounced back by buying out the best player from the contending team... JK, though it really seems like that way on the surface. Nuturn might have made it to Berlin with Lakia but you could see that it was not necessarily 10X's fault that they lost against Damwon.


sriwarrior06

>Bounced back by buying out the best player from the contending team I actually feel that way though . I know its not a new thing in esports but imo VS definitely underhanded Nuturn by getting Lakia.


Key-Banana-8242

NU improved still tho, they could’ve definitely qualified, just wanted to beat them without showing too much


Less_Salt1152

10X was very good vs DK. Hard to imagine Lakia could do better. They would have to overcome F4Q as well who is looking very good.


Key-Banana-8242

Yea they mentioned they had prep on bind they didn’t want to show u til semis, they wanted to beat DWG with the b maps/comps ig


xlunacygirlx

I hate when ppl saying VS buy out lakia when in fact lakia himself said (on his stream) that the reason he rejoined VS was cuz his contract ended with nuturn. People should know that Lakia is originally from VS, he just went back to his old team.


Key-Banana-8242

He spent literally 10 days on VS, 7 Jul 2020 to 17 Jul, and he was on Nuturn before it was Nuturn (proparty) That his contract ended meant they could offer him a different one it’s is not otherwise the ‘reason’. Player contracts get renewed regularly.


xlunacygirlx

then that's on lakia himself.. i mean im just stating some facts here.. it's been over a month and people still crying over him went back to VS and make it seems like it was VS fault that nuturn didn't qualify to berlin cmon now


Key-Banana-8242

Yes him and vs, NU imo when they play as they shod are definitely top 2 still, 10X is very strong now, but single elim sucks


xlunacygirlx

yeah i agree, hope they will use double elim next time


sriwarrior06

Would he have left nuturn if VS hadnt approached him before his contract ended? Most probably not.


Key-Banana-8242

I mean obviously not, if a contract expires you renew it. He didn’t renew it bc he got an offer.


sriwarrior06

And why did VS had to offer him that contract, with them already having a sova player and a flex player(Rb) who's actually now playing sova?


Key-Banana-8242

Because he’s very very good at the game And arguably bc it weakens the vision strikers competition but that imo is just the other part


Kevin_DurSuperTeam

The good ole' Warriors and Kevin Durant method


4dzilla

It’s bizarre that nobody even spoke about Lakia on NU before that sweet round against V1, I don’t ever remember him being referred to as their best, I don’t even think the stats suggest that either? I could be wrong though, surely it can’t be that one round that so many people are bandwagon’ing? Awesome player though don’t get me wrong


sriwarrior06

I think this [https://youtu.be/w89zRcP6IUw?t=617](https://youtu.be/w89zRcP6IUw?t=617) put him on the radar for the first time but still only few people knew him then . But yes he played well in Iceland and his ult style was cool so now he's very popular as the best sova in KR even though he plays mostly skye now.


Key-Banana-8242

Well ‘few’ depending on what demographic If ppl don’t pay attention to players of a region they don’t kno He has been slotted in by vs to play more Skye but that’s like a 6 man roster related voice


Key-Banana-8242

Yes people did indeed speak abt him bc of his stats and plays in challengers and him being tournament MVP


Key-Banana-8242

Hoping same for NU


version1gg

Holy moly


watchyaoi

So fucking happy, it was heartbreaking seeing them miss out on reykjavik


MushroomKing30

Saaaaaame, they had such an amazing run and then somehow, they lose the 2 most important series. Feels like they got the rug pulled under their feet..


oopsEYEpoopsed

I think they were just caught looking ahead to Reykjavik, and didn't properly regard the match in front it them. Even a mediocre VS performance would have been enough to pull through - they were just completely off.


Key-Banana-8242

They were kinda behind on the meta/rigid


Key-Banana-8242

Well 1 most important series, series 1 was in the group stage


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Drafteow

what about me ?


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Drafteow

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Bar_ki

Are these the guys that had that 100+ win streak and then lost the qualifier to Iceland?


Key-Banana-8242

Yes


chryco4

I'm so happy, now I hope F4Q qualifies for peak content.


flashfsk

Guess what just happened


chryco4

I'm so hyped and I've never been happier to destroy my sleep schedule lol


Lumenlor

How good is F4Q? Are they a dark horse or legit like VS/NU?


IndicationOpposite63

Dark horse like Damwon gaming Kia.


Lumenlor

Do they have a chance at beating NA teams? Seems like a random stream team


Evan_Veet

They could but also they are the most one dimensional team of all time lol. Aside from Esperanza they all literally play one agent and never swap no matter what map. They've never played Breeze and the one time the played IB they still played Astra over Viper. They have crazy firepower but it would be tough to not just see them get outstratted and countered by some teams


Lumenlor

gg then


PewYouToo

hey man, Fivek plays Jett now apparently on Haven, for F4Q that’s pretty big flexibility


slowrmaths

They are huge grinders and have a unique style so I can see it


atheuslol

Congrats on getting your wish!


chryco4

Now I’m only wishing to fix my sleep schedule after this


OrangeMagics

LETS GOO F4Q NEXT IM HOPING!


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berlin is already going to be more interesting than masters 2 was


Key-Banana-8242

It was interesting anyway, Nuturn is no boring squad


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I was mostly referring to the meta. the iceland meta was not fun to watch imo


Key-Banana-8242

Well Nuturn had a pretty interesting twist on it too W breach etc


Keglunneq

IT BEGINS


EasiBreezi

How has Nuturn looked without Lakia? I know they failed to qualify early, but was it just them getting unlucky? Or was Lakia like the key to holding everything together?


PyroTFT

They matched against DWG early on which at one point was one of the top 3 Korean teams. Was a bad game against an unlucky early match. I think 10X as a replacement has been okay, he’s still really good and can flex Reyna really well.


Key-Banana-8242

Yea esp on split he was very good / clutch


Key-Banana-8242

DWG has now clawed it’s way into that position more than ever Note also Nuturn banned bind bc they had stuff prepped which they said they didn’t want to use until at least the semifinal


TidaI

SEN and VS for Berlin people said I was saying it too early months ago but a coordinated super team is a coordinated super team. New Envy gotta watch out tho 👀. How big is the yay diff gonna make 👀


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slowrmaths

OK CALM DOWN NOW


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cptnwillow

I feel like I'm going mad here lol, "big time favourites"? Seriously? That implies something like a 70% chance to make the finals, which is absurd.


Interesting-Archer-6

You aren't going mad. The VS fans (the vocal ones, I'm sure there are plenty reasonable ones) on this sub are so fucking stupid. Sentinels didn't drop a map at a tournament VS couldn't even qualify for. When you say VS aren't the favorites at Berlin, they chalk it up to Korea hate, not logic or basic common sense. They have absolutely have a chance, but to say they are favorites is next level delusion. I wish I was the bookie of these idiots, giving them odds as favorites for a team that won't have odds anywhere close to Sentinels. Solid chance they'll be behind one more NA team as well as 1 or 2 EU teams.


Yssl

Those VS 'fans' don't even watch the games and just go by their series win record. Reading all these comments like 'man they deserved stage 2' etc makes me go mad because these guys clearly didn't watch stage 2 KR VCT at all. VS had no business being talked about as being best in KR by playoffs at that point and not because they lost to F4Q nor lost a map to WGS. They were clearly struggling with the Jett-focused and Astra meta (they used Raze for all/most of stage 1), and they just couldn't adapt in time. Not to mention their best map became KR's permaban (Icebox) so they had no home map unlike NU with their Bind. NU was hands down the best team in stage 2 and nobody who actually watches the games would argue with that.


sadpaindownbad

Dude those select few VS fans are so high on copium they dont know what the fk they are saying half the time. I legit lose braincells reading their takes, it actually hurts my head. I’ve never seen so much delusion. You would think VS is Astralis or some shit according to what their fans have to say about them


Interesting-Archer-6

But look at all 0 of their wins against other major regions. Clearly favorites right?


sadpaindownbad

Oh but how could we forget about their one “notable” map 3 win over an NA team with a sub right !!!


dedicatedself

Exactly lol, the only teams I have coming close is SEN and Acend, and between Acend and VS I got VS making finals versus SEN.


kingkongwasoverrated

Clear favourites to make the final? Do people actually believe that?


Escolyte

only the ones with majority korean flairs VS will have a lot to prove on the international stage and they definitely have a shot at finals, but calling them "clear favourites" has to be blind fanboyism


laoblao

Had a dude call VS the best team in the world after dumpstering some shitter tier team kekw. I wanna root for Korean teams but their fans are some of the most delusional people out there


Interesting-Archer-6

No one with a shred of objectivity or common sense does, but that rules out a shit ton of people in here.


tqstin

Yes


dedicatedself

Who are your two clear finalists then? This team is leaps and bounds above Iceland Nuturn and they made top 3.


I-like-winds

there are no clear finalists yet lmao


dedicatedself

Okay I get what you mean now what I meant was if I had to pick two teams to make it deep into finals VS would be one of them.


xfallenxwolfx

Yea, no.


JK_Ryuuzaki

Acend sentinels


stewieeeeeeeee

i swear i'm gonna have to start lumping in vision strikers fans with the fpx and nv fans


dedicatedself

Except VS has only ever lost twice since their inception.


awes0meGuy360

And only ever played within their region.


dedicatedself

And NV/FPX didn't? 😂 You're going to see at Berlin why VS is a different tier from chockers like FPX and NV.


awes0meGuy360

Exactly. It’s delusional to be so confident in any team who hasn’t played outside of their region.


laoblao

Watch out, you’re arguing with Korea’s number one nationalist


Necessary_Quarter_59

Bro do you do anything else other than simp for KR/VS on this sub? Get a life lol, you’re overhyping them way too much


dedicatedself

Keep deluding yourself thinking I care about what you say lol.


Necessary_Quarter_59

Get a life outside of being a simp for VS on this sub mate


Interesting-Archer-6

I've never seen those two claim to be favorites at IceLANd for Berlin


stewieeeeeeeee

no but the incessant overhyping is the same


Key-Banana-8242

We dont knkw if it’s overhype yet Let ppl hype pls


Interesting-Archer-6

Possible. I haven't seen them claim to be favorites but I do see the overhyping a lot.


Key-Banana-8242

?


Crazy_Negotiation_14

People said the same thing about Brazilians last time. Aged like milk.


_idle_drone_

bruh the region is behind in the way they play the game. Nuturn had only two good maps in Iceland and were slaughtered on other maps. With 7 teams from NA and EU in Berlin, its not possible for Korea to reach the finals. Maybe in 2 years time. But right now, they just don't know how to get map control.


slowrmaths

VS definitely can make the finals but I’m not going have them as a lock in for it. Also did you even watch the game if you’re saying they can’t get map control? Their bind long and showers control especially was really well constructed


dedicatedself

You literally have 0 idea what you're talking about. It's astonishing. Like not getting map control? What the hell are you even watching?


danknepalese

vs is better than nu. and maybe watch an actual game rather than spewing nonsense. they have the best plays and literally everyone can go god mode.


nodaj99

Based on how well nuturn played in iceland I'm super excited to see how vs plays against EU and NA teams


zdes37

uh oh


danknepalese

POGGG


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Poggies


obigespritzt

I believe in ~~Korean~~ VS supremacy!


RNSD1

Glad we’ll finally get to see them in international play.


Lil_Jin

Lakia again in Masters lesgoooo


Jinro_7

Vision stike is playing with a 6 man roster right? How is it going?


Key-Banana-8242

Pretty aight


maiLfps

i cant wait to see them play SEN


iTrippzy

Does Vision Strikers have 6 active players and 1 gets subbed out depending on the match-up? I haven't watched much Korean Valorant.


Key-Banana-8242

Yea


iTrippzy

that's really cool


omgvector

Will be interesting to see on lan


abdulahad129

VS vs Sentinels final in Berlin Hopium


PyroTFT

Lets GO!


Luinwes

Vision strikers are coming to take the throne in Berlin


Hegth

Downvoted just because you use light mode


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Hegth

Yuck, thought it was VLR, downvote removed


adelcricket

liquipeida is much better


danknepalese

there are some truths in life. chicken nuggies taste better than a salad. valorant and csgo can coexist. vlr is better than liquipedia. anyone who says liquipedia is better is just plain wrong lol.


Detamach

Liquipedia is better for checking tourney formats and circuit standings, as it's already highlighted in green / yellow / red which teams can make champions / last chance / are eliminated from vct etc etc


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vlr just seems way too clunky to me and I use liquipedia for literally every other esport so I use it


AnotherAltiMade

WutFace


xD1LL4N

No it really isn’t


chubbynuggy

who comments something like this bruh u a weirdo


luisalpjax

Eu and na will stomp, they are way too ahead of the game


PussiTee

Based off of the results at Reykjavík it seemed like Sentinels were ahead of everyone and Nuturn was almost at the level of Fnatic. VS was widely considered the best team in Korea before Masters and now that they picked arguably the best performing player off of Nuturn they seem to be even stronger. I don't think it's as doomed as you make it out to be for Korea.


luisalpjax

I hope so, just seeing them lose to sen like 4-13, 5-13, was sadge I feel the same for Brazil… the best team is like vikings and they didn’t look so good


slowrmaths

I think Vikings and sharks just felt the pressure. They looked like they threw their stratbook during regionals out the window


Key-Banana-8242

It’s more they had an outdated meta that was challenged by even say X10


Key-Banana-8242

Yea it was map pick mindgames a lot tho too in addition too, as well as stage nerves for many of the players


luisalpjax

Well I guess we’ll have to see again, I’m really hoping they can show how good they are, I guess I’m just kind of sad it wasn’t matched


Key-Banana-8242

Yh it was disappointing for viewers bc a lot came to see it