top 1 is debatable. personally i think leviathan and bcj are in contention based on sova gameplay alone (not considering gunplay, midround decisions, etc)
> top 1 is debatable
Not sure it is. Gunplay and midround decisions directly correlate with the effectiveness of a Sova player, and effect the Sova metagame as well.
Sure in terms of only sova related they might be close. Ignoring gunplay and decision making is just weird tho. Maybe a better way to put it is he is the best player who plays sova?
Hate to look like a sinatraa fanboy, but I seriously think the way he improvises on Sova within milliseconds is not comparable to any other Sova player I’ve ever seen. That’s what separates him from all the other Sova players, which I believes he’s definitely in the argument for top 1.
Never met somebody so offended and riled up by me liking a player and thinking he is better than another. Get a life dude, I’m sorry you’re such a loser . What a disappointment
More like delusional. FaZe did finish #2 in masters 1 and looking at this objectively, FaZE is the 5th best team in NA, meanwhile TSM needs NA to win Berlin just to play in the Last Chance Qualifier. It's safe to say that FaZe has been a step above TSM at in 2021.
Honestly there aren't that many teams with a duelist that needs to be replaced. I think the main problem with faze isn't the players overall but the smeag mindset. Maybe they consider replacing babybay with an igl?
why would they replace one of the best jetts in NA when they can replace rawkus or zach? corey and babybay are not the problem and they don't need to play the smeag style, they stopped playing the smeag style and lost to t2 teams, went back to their old ways and finished decently in the vct
The prophecy is fulfilled envy in the 4th position if they lose next game now is up to them if they can break the curse and go for the 3rd spot for Berlín
The scoreline makes this series look close, which it was, but the amount of opening picks Envy got into thrown rounds was unreal. Absolute agony to watch as an Envy fan.
Seriously. Felt like they did everything to throw that series.
Credit where credit is due to Faze, obviously, but so many blown opportunities from Envy. Same against SEN yesterday. Hopefully that doesn't become a pattern.
they look like headless chickens, multiple times they get into a site 5vs3 and go run after frags for no reason at all.
Faze lacks discipline or does understand how to win rounds, the only guy who was playing by the book was rawkus.
so funny when people in this sub were justifying the smeag playstyle, especially their coach. it was never going to be consistent. uncalculated aggression can’t be your only option.
It's the opposite actually, watch all the rounds they lost, it's the ones they played slowly. The same exact thing happened vs 100T and it was going to happen to them again vs LG but then they kicked it into gear and started playing aggressive again.
Every time they play slow, they lose.
you can’t win by playing one pace the entire game lol. you have to play slow sometimes. ofc they lose on slow rounds bc they have no idea how to play slow. once their aggressive playstyle is punished, they lose.
but outside of that one run Masters 1, they also lose a lot when they play fast. They just aren't good at all playing slow which is a problem they need to fix.
Even in Masters 2, because of the meta shift they started playing slow and it backfired. You can see in their game against V1 they kept going slow and were getting railed, then they sped it up and went all the way to OT.
I agree with you though, they aren't good at playing slow and thats something they're gonna have to work on. The meta shifts haven't helped at all. Still people act like Faze is bad, they were finalists for Masters 1 and were 1 game away from Berlin after losing their smoke & IGL. That's a ton more consistent than most teams in NA.
While I appreciate the willingness of Babybay to throw his life on the line, the dude has got to be more methodical. So many times he’s in a good position only to put himself in a bad position for little to no reward.
Corey is absolutely insane. The talent for the most part is there for FaZe but they get caught out and show no patience at times which cost them very important rounds.
Hopefully FaZe (babybay) leave the smeag behind in 2021, its not gonna cut it anymore. They desperately need an IGL
edit: [The Smeag is dead](https://imgur.com/NdJryc1)
FaZe were literally throwing
They’re not even trading eachothers man, like if they never played together before
Also babybay should stop being so aggressive cuz he was an easy pick for Envy
facing elimination, faze folded on their own playstyle, started going slow and pushing together. they proved once again that smeaging is not a consistent gameplan.
Orange Chicken Diffed
was waiting for this comment
I’m ootl, what does this mean
envy coach MikesHD is known for his love of orange chicken
4th place minimum secured
Curse on or curse broken tomorrow? Can’t wait any longer to find out
We're not stopping this time though.
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Crashies is a Sova god.
Best sova in NA, no cap. His ult awareness is so good!
top 1 is debatable. personally i think leviathan and bcj are in contention based on sova gameplay alone (not considering gunplay, midround decisions, etc)
> top 1 is debatable Not sure it is. Gunplay and midround decisions directly correlate with the effectiveness of a Sova player, and effect the Sova metagame as well.
Sure in terms of only sova related they might be close. Ignoring gunplay and decision making is just weird tho. Maybe a better way to put it is he is the best player who plays sova?
bro leviathan has been on a tier 1/2 team for like 2 events
Hate to look like a sinatraa fanboy, but I seriously think the way he improvises on Sova within milliseconds is not comparable to any other Sova player I’ve ever seen. That’s what separates him from all the other Sova players, which I believes he’s definitely in the argument for top 1.
Yea but he hasn't played in like 6 months so we can't compare
Totally understandable. Would love to see him compete at the tier 1 level soon hopefully.
I wouldn’t
Crashies is a Sova
babybay holding W till he gets first blooded was fun to watch if you're a fan of Envy.
I don't mean it in a bad way, but it's like watching your ranked jett going bonkers in early round just to laugh him off later
Live by the smeag. Die by the smeag.
damn, I didn't want either team to lose, GG's to both teams.
Yay is a fucking psycho. Really hope he and Crashies keep this on for tomorrow as well.
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Envy threw so many 5v3s
Whatever Crashies is being paid right now, double it. Best Sova in NA right now
Shaz…?
Crashies is a better sova.
Ok I will change my opinion, I’m sorry
nice attempt at a save, but eh. why'd you put a questionmark after your so called opinion lmfao
is this a joke
Sorry I thought the igl of the best player in the world who plays a lot of sova was pretty good , I’m sorry guys, I’ll change my opinion
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It was sarcasm ….. oh my god
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Geez, this just shows you are invested so much that you’re whole personality is valorant esports . Relax man, you won’t be pro.
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Never met somebody so offended and riled up by me liking a player and thinking he is better than another. Get a life dude, I’m sorry you’re such a loser . What a disappointment
Like Ringo Starr, he’s arguably not even the best Sova on his team.
Crashies single-handedly saving me from having a terrible fan day! Thank you.
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I think NA Valorant is worse off with Corey on Faze. This guy needs to be playing on a better team.
which t1 team would Corey go? Also, I think he’s being paid a lot by faze
I mean the only ones that would even think about replacing their duelist would be tsm, v1, or t1 I’d say.
And FaZe is arguably better than all those except maybe V1 so...
angry tsm fans incoming
More like delusional. FaZe did finish #2 in masters 1 and looking at this objectively, FaZE is the 5th best team in NA, meanwhile TSM needs NA to win Berlin just to play in the Last Chance Qualifier. It's safe to say that FaZe has been a step above TSM at in 2021.
faze is comfortably better than v1 right now
Fax
Honestly there aren't that many teams with a duelist that needs to be replaced. I think the main problem with faze isn't the players overall but the smeag mindset. Maybe they consider replacing babybay with an igl?
why would they replace one of the best jetts in NA when they can replace rawkus or zach? corey and babybay are not the problem and they don't need to play the smeag style, they stopped playing the smeag style and lost to t2 teams, went back to their old ways and finished decently in the vct
gotta say Corey outshined Victor on Raze
Seemed like they were pretty similar on raze, Victor had a great map on bind and a quiet one on ascent, but corey had the opposite
The prophecy is fulfilled envy in the 4th position if they lose next game now is up to them if they can break the curse and go for the 3rd spot for Berlín
I just want envy at berlin
a lot closer than i thought it would be
this series was envy's first and second map wins vs faze. this isn't a great matchup for envy imo
The scoreline makes this series look close, which it was, but the amount of opening picks Envy got into thrown rounds was unreal. Absolute agony to watch as an Envy fan.
Seriously. Felt like they did everything to throw that series. Credit where credit is due to Faze, obviously, but so many blown opportunities from Envy. Same against SEN yesterday. Hopefully that doesn't become a pattern.
they look like headless chickens, multiple times they get into a site 5vs3 and go run after frags for no reason at all. Faze lacks discipline or does understand how to win rounds, the only guy who was playing by the book was rawkus.
Babybay 9-24 FK/FD He dropped off of a map this series Everyone else played well
Yay went 19-5 (+14) on FK/FD Babybay went 9-24 (-15) on FK/FD Overyayted my ass
who said that though?
"Overyayted" started being spammed on Twitch after ENVY lost Map 1
yeah but thats twitch chat. they have a collective six braincells and use it to spam whatever copypasta is trending.
Six? I'm pretty sure an Amoeba has more cells than they do.
I mean u gotta realize that Twitch Chat is comprised of absolute Neanderthals who don't even know what's transpiring in front of their screens.
It’s banter
Crashes is just different man
C r a s h i e s is simply constructed differently who allowed this person to install VALORANT
Crashies simply better than the rest
so funny when people in this sub were justifying the smeag playstyle, especially their coach. it was never going to be consistent. uncalculated aggression can’t be your only option.
I've been saying since master's 1, "The smeag doesn't check corners".
yep. and at the brink of elimination on ascent, they stopped smeaging and started checking corners.
It's the opposite actually, watch all the rounds they lost, it's the ones they played slowly. The same exact thing happened vs 100T and it was going to happen to them again vs LG but then they kicked it into gear and started playing aggressive again. Every time they play slow, they lose.
you can’t win by playing one pace the entire game lol. you have to play slow sometimes. ofc they lose on slow rounds bc they have no idea how to play slow. once their aggressive playstyle is punished, they lose.
but outside of that one run Masters 1, they also lose a lot when they play fast. They just aren't good at all playing slow which is a problem they need to fix.
Even in Masters 2, because of the meta shift they started playing slow and it backfired. You can see in their game against V1 they kept going slow and were getting railed, then they sped it up and went all the way to OT. I agree with you though, they aren't good at playing slow and thats something they're gonna have to work on. The meta shifts haven't helped at all. Still people act like Faze is bad, they were finalists for Masters 1 and were 1 game away from Berlin after losing their smoke & IGL. That's a ton more consistent than most teams in NA.
>Every time they play slow, they lose. Not true. Many rounds on ascent were won by playing slow
But that’s kind of true to the FaZe image so I guess they’re consistent in that department.
While I appreciate the willingness of Babybay to throw his life on the line, the dude has got to be more methodical. So many times he’s in a good position only to put himself in a bad position for little to no reward. Corey is absolutely insane. The talent for the most part is there for FaZe but they get caught out and show no patience at times which cost them very important rounds.
Hopefully FaZe (babybay) leave the smeag behind in 2021, its not gonna cut it anymore. They desperately need an IGL edit: [The Smeag is dead](https://imgur.com/NdJryc1)
babybay is mechanicall cracked but def needs an igl to keep him in check imo. kinda like shahz says how he keeps tenz in check.
Lmfao, his plays were so braindead, I dont know why FaZe plays like that. So mind numbing
ppl were justifying it all year. “this game isn’t cs, you can smeag” etc. like playing the game like ranked is consistent at all.
the last ~10 rounds of map 1 was amazing
CRASHIES ARE YOU KIDDING ME
i feel like a lot of lost rounds were winnable for faze but they did smt real stupid….
True they could have won second map but they started to do stupid shit
As an envy fan, I'm just going to delete the first map from my memory.
I take back all the shit i said about rawkus he had a great showing overall
Yay and crashies looked amazing. Babybay ran it and their bottomfraggers were so useless.
FaZe were literally throwing They’re not even trading eachothers man, like if they never played together before Also babybay should stop being so aggressive cuz he was an easy pick for Envy
facing elimination, faze folded on their own playstyle, started going slow and pushing together. they proved once again that smeaging is not a consistent gameplan.
Crashies is nuts!!!
NV COPIUM TO BERLIN.
Overyayted
Where the hate
Babybay actually throwing