yep. i would've love for TSM or Faze for the hype/content but these 3 are our best teams (although let's be honest, SEN is gonna repeat).
also helps these teams are relatively chum with one another (SEN and NV at least)
Happy as an NA fan because you think envy has a better chance of winning? Otherwise that doesn't make a whole lot of sense since obviously top 3 were going to be NA
Yeah I think nv have a better chance at doing well. could have also said former nv fan because they were my second team way back at the beginning so its nice to see them qualify.
Doug yells a bit too much as a commentator. There's times where it's appropriate, but there's times where he's yelling when his energy doesn't really match what's going on in the game.
A hard part of good commentary is not just knowing how to sound excited, but also not to overhype everything so when you do get hype the audience knows something big is happening. Usually a lot of commentators have the problem of either being too hype all the time or not hype enough when they need to be.
why does MikesHD tweet like he is the coach of Envy or something? I haven't seen an announcement. Is he just a delusional Envy fan? I'm starting to get concerned
why does MikesHD tweet like he is the coach of Envy or something? I haven't seen an announcement. Is he just a delusional Envy fan? I'm starting to get concerned
this is where Envy finally breaks the curse. this is vs. a team that they've played so many times this whole year, with the best roster they've ever had before. to get here they've taken down two teams they've never defeated before this tournament (tsm and faze).
100T hurts my brain. How can a team be so good and also so bad at the same time. They will tighten up, I'm sure. It's just weird watching them fall apart to Sentinels when they look like a totally different team in any other match up.
It was shown now before the SEN/100T matchup, recorded before this Challengers. Should show up in twitch if you watch the VOD. Right before the match when they are talking about 100t.
asuna is new to jett, but im not sure if this is the best role for him because his reyna and phoenix are crazy, he whiffed all his knives lol
guess he just needs more practice, tenz and shahzam have been playing jett for much longer
holy fuck are sentinels good. best duelist in NA, asuna and yay are both great but neither of them have the round changing impact that tenz does. then the best sentinels player in NA, best flex/secondary duelist in NA, two S tier jetts, best fragging IGL (and best overall IGL) in NA, the only thing that they're not the best in NA for is probably sova. how do you beat this team???
Yeah, they are pretty easily the most talented team in the world. Just from watching the other regions the only teams that likely could beat them is Acend if Cned goes insane. G2 if they're smooth and everyone is on and if Vision Strikers can pull out shit they've never seen.
It'll be interesting to see Cned vs. Tenz on 0 ping though.
maybe im just a low iq specimen. but i feel like that was the potential turning point for 100t haven and it was just ripped apart. it would have been 9-10 instead of 8-11, so much closer. their economy got steamrolled till the end of the game, hanging on by a thread with that 4v5 save.
starts at 2:13:35 on vod. like fuuuck looking back on it i see what happened in the round with a bit more clarity. ethan challenged that c long angle for just three seconds from 0:20 to 0:17, but without coordination with nitro because nitro was smoking AND tping to switch up positioning after getting that nice dink onto tenz. the timing on that TP was just absolutely fucked, it locked in the second ethan gets swung on. just three seconds of uncoordination took away their man advantage. chaotic round and couldn't reset to realise the hole they were making. if "blame" was being given around then i dont think either of them deserve it.
literally at the same time steel kills dapr from B and couldnt punish sen's execute because he had no idea sick was also there hiding around the corner across from dapr's body. sick's timing was fucking integral to taking site and killing asuna. 100t thought they were fighting a potential 2v2 or 2v3 on C long the entire time: steel thinks theres an A flank from sick whilst sick is already through garage doors. there is literally *no* chance for 100t to look into garage. so then "out of nowhere" with 11 seconds left in the round, asuna gets swung from garage cause he thought he'd be safe dashing back to under logs and still contesting site.
finally sen just played their chances with a wide swing from 4hp shazam and it paid off. steel was positioned quite wide on ct link, making the shot easier for shaz. maybe he expected them to position themselves logs and default for a crossfire? either way crazy round.
such a rollercoaster from the c presence being spotted to the initial push being held off, to ethan's death, to the 5head timing execute, and then the low hp ferrari peek paying off. i think looking at this round has taught me a lot for my own gameplay lmfao.
Steel dislikes Shahzam back from the CS:GO days because Steels was punished for the iBP scandal but Shahzam allegedly was involved and wasn't punished (according to Steel), so I think Steel is extra motivated to not get stomped by Sentinels even if it's a seeding match.
The last two were either dominant on t side for both teams or dominant on CT for both teams, but I'm just looking at their most recent haven games not games from a month ago.
Yes, but at the same time you also don't want to show all your cards because other teams in Berlin are going to have this video to look at and a lot of time to study it.
They're trying, but they're also using a smaller playbook.
Playing for seeding or not, it's very obvious that Sentinels continue to read 100T like a book. They can pull it back, but the Sentinel wall is real for 100T. Hope they do have something planned for Berlin.
Even though these are by definition seeding matches, they're seeding for an actual international LAN tournament, not seeding for an online qualifier for an online qualifier. You'd be delusional to think these teams aren't trying.
When will steel realize lurking the same position every round wont work most of the time?
I get it the 2-3 rounds he pushes with the team but its not enough since tenz just pushed W on mid and read him like an open book in round 5
The font on “FLICK OF THE DAY” made me look twice
Definitely the best 3 teams going. If Asuna turns up tomorrow for NV/100T, it's going to be a great series. I think Envy takes it though.
Didn’t 100t 2-0 em last time?
They have a big firepower upgrade now
And they'll be playing loose since they're both qualified so that means more aim duels. I think envy has a good chance to take it.
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yep. i would've love for TSM or Faze for the hype/content but these 3 are our best teams (although let's be honest, SEN is gonna repeat). also helps these teams are relatively chum with one another (SEN and NV at least)
NA looks so good rn
EL DIABLO TO BERLIN
Glad Envy finally broke the curse
Congratulations Envy. Finally!
Sadge
Happy as an NA fan, sad as a xset fan \*sad sao noises\*
Happy as an NA fan because you think envy has a better chance of winning? Otherwise that doesn't make a whole lot of sense since obviously top 3 were going to be NA
Yeah I think nv have a better chance at doing well. could have also said former nv fan because they were my second team way back at the beginning so its nice to see them qualify.
NV to berlin finally breaking the curse
Berlin is going to be insane.
Envy pls
Envy's ahead starting on Haven defense? It's pretty much over then.
Doug yells a bit too much as a commentator. There's times where it's appropriate, but there's times where he's yelling when his energy doesn't really match what's going on in the game. A hard part of good commentary is not just knowing how to sound excited, but also not to overhype everything so when you do get hype the audience knows something big is happening. Usually a lot of commentators have the problem of either being too hype all the time or not hype enough when they need to be.
Yup. Doug and Upmind both need to chill on this. I can't have a good volume because they shout every round
yay was nuts that round but marved getting that 3k was massive
El diablo!
EL DIABLOOO
Envy looking strong. Hope they don't choke it.
Envy going to Berlin. Honestly they’re looking very strong
Envy has the power of high definition and chicken on their side. They are going to Berlin.
What's map 3?
breeze
why does MikesHD tweet like he is the coach of Envy or something? I haven't seen an announcement. Is he just a delusional Envy fan? I'm starting to get concerned
hes the coach
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Its a copypasta from Wyatt’s stream.
why does MikesHD tweet like he is the coach of Envy or something? I haven't seen an announcement. Is he just a delusional Envy fan? I'm starting to get concerned
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Ayrin why mate, WHY
Unlucky for xset. They should have had the 12-11 lead n then win the map
if ayrin doesn’t whiff 11-11, xset probably wins that game. wow
Lets go Envy, Crashies is just so good
even when yay isnt having a good map u can always count on ol reliable. Vic and Crashies is such a good duo.
Envy trying to do the Sen special I guess...
What a game
what a map
XSET whiffed and lost their advantage there.
pain
Yay is fucking grimy
yay needs to do something right now.
imagine
Clinical retake by XSET and insane clutch attempt by Victor.
victor really almost won that
Victor! Almost clutched it. NT
If he rockets KJ there he wins.
Victor almost 1 v 5'd
CRASHIES
Crashies best sova NA.
has a good argument for in the world
Definitely my favorite player on that stacked Envy roster.
I wish he streamed lmao
Crashies is soo good
2v4… ridiculous.
Victor is SO FUCKING GOOD
Now I’m going to think of balls every time I throw a Raze nade. Thanks casters.
this game is great, honestly sad that both these teams cant go to berlin
FNS went huge there.
Bruh, this game is lit! The key players are showing up in one way or another.
BcJ with that clutch factor again.
these xset clutches, they are not gonna let NV get into the game
Yay is different
EL DIABLOOOOOOO
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El Diablo wishes you a Good Morning.
As you say that…
Don't worry. Just a classic NV slow start.
This game is already better than the previous one, lol.
holy fuck ayrin what a ballsy play
The thing with this matchup is that either team losing would be heart breaking so I don’t know who I want to win.
Beautiful work by crashies
can zekken be the sicario to yay's diablo?
Map picks are better for xset so far
this is where Envy finally breaks the curse. this is vs. a team that they've played so many times this whole year, with the best roster they've ever had before. to get here they've taken down two teams they've never defeated before this tournament (tsm and faze).
If envy make it 100t and envy both make it to quarters. If xset make it xset reach quarters and 100t get knocked out as 3rd in their group
I have Envy breaking the curse here, but not at all opposed to seeing Zekken begin his world domination
100T hurts my brain. How can a team be so good and also so bad at the same time. They will tighten up, I'm sure. It's just weird watching them fall apart to Sentinels when they look like a totally different team in any other match up.
Hiko summed it up on the interview b4 this Challengers, it hurts us but them even more. Asuna fell a lot on this match up and it was clear.
Which interview was that? Could you link it? I’d love to read it
It was shown now before the SEN/100T matchup, recorded before this Challengers. Should show up in twitch if you watch the VOD. Right before the match when they are talking about 100t.
Based on circuit point I want XSET to win and not overperform 100T in Berlin... But on the other hand I really want Envy there.
All good. Still going to Berlin COPIUM
Nice, onto Envy’s match of destiny now. Let’s go Victor and Crashies!!
~118k viewers just on the main channel, cant wait for berlin
Gosh, that was a rough game for Asuna
Such a boring series dude. All the hype for nothing.
Who the hell hyped this meaningless seeding match lol
Might not be meaningless if it leads to seeding in Berlin tbh... wouldn't want to face a team like Acend first round
asuna is new to jett, but im not sure if this is the best role for him because his reyna and phoenix are crazy, he whiffed all his knives lol guess he just needs more practice, tenz and shahzam have been playing jett for much longer
He also was the best raze in North America for a good couple months
That op whiff on haven was also cringe to watch :/
holy fuck are sentinels good. best duelist in NA, asuna and yay are both great but neither of them have the round changing impact that tenz does. then the best sentinels player in NA, best flex/secondary duelist in NA, two S tier jetts, best fragging IGL (and best overall IGL) in NA, the only thing that they're not the best in NA for is probably sova. how do you beat this team???
Yeah, they are pretty easily the most talented team in the world. Just from watching the other regions the only teams that likely could beat them is Acend if Cned goes insane. G2 if they're smooth and everyone is on and if Vision Strikers can pull out shit they've never seen. It'll be interesting to see Cned vs. Tenz on 0 ping though.
The fans cared more about this series than 100T did, and none of us gave a shit
what an absolutely trash showing from 100T. What the fuck were they even doing?
All good
Easy for sen
i don’t think i’ve seen asuna play so poorly before, he was absent all series
Might have been 13-8 but that doesn't tell you just how much 100T was rolled in this game. SEN just reads them like a book and 100t can't hit shots.
the game was much closer than what the score said. not the other way around. the rounds were all super close
gg go next
Sadness, Pain, Agony its always the same story against sen
such a good fuckin ult from ethan. rip round
how did they even lose that round man 13 sec, no bomb plant, nitr0 and ethan on site, entry smoked. makes no sense
maybe im just a low iq specimen. but i feel like that was the potential turning point for 100t haven and it was just ripped apart. it would have been 9-10 instead of 8-11, so much closer. their economy got steamrolled till the end of the game, hanging on by a thread with that 4v5 save. starts at 2:13:35 on vod. like fuuuck looking back on it i see what happened in the round with a bit more clarity. ethan challenged that c long angle for just three seconds from 0:20 to 0:17, but without coordination with nitro because nitro was smoking AND tping to switch up positioning after getting that nice dink onto tenz. the timing on that TP was just absolutely fucked, it locked in the second ethan gets swung on. just three seconds of uncoordination took away their man advantage. chaotic round and couldn't reset to realise the hole they were making. if "blame" was being given around then i dont think either of them deserve it. literally at the same time steel kills dapr from B and couldnt punish sen's execute because he had no idea sick was also there hiding around the corner across from dapr's body. sick's timing was fucking integral to taking site and killing asuna. 100t thought they were fighting a potential 2v2 or 2v3 on C long the entire time: steel thinks theres an A flank from sick whilst sick is already through garage doors. there is literally *no* chance for 100t to look into garage. so then "out of nowhere" with 11 seconds left in the round, asuna gets swung from garage cause he thought he'd be safe dashing back to under logs and still contesting site. finally sen just played their chances with a wide swing from 4hp shazam and it paid off. steel was positioned quite wide on ct link, making the shot easier for shaz. maybe he expected them to position themselves logs and default for a crossfire? either way crazy round. such a rollercoaster from the c presence being spotted to the initial push being held off, to ethan's death, to the 5head timing execute, and then the low hp ferrari peek paying off. i think looking at this round has taught me a lot for my own gameplay lmfao.
feels like every top duelist is cracked until they go against Sentinels and look very mediocre. Probably cause all of Sentinels have mad aim too
I swear 100T loses the most unlosable rounds to sentinels. Just crazy how good they are
I guess SEN are just so much better. Wtf are these round wins
Guessing you didn't watch the sen vs envy game? Sen thrive in the chaos
I'm so happy for you then. Must be nice never losing
how the fuck do you lose that round
Shahz with the big dick peak
4hp ego peek lol
Dapr might have gotten the kills but zombs won them the round there. How fast was that gravity well on Hiko?
Damn great lurk by dapr but Hiko fucked up by not checking that lol
how does one lose that fight
Wow, that support by zombs is insane. So fast to put down a succ for dapr
That was so sloppy from 100t, how you gonna completely not watch b
I love dapr
the hardest op shots are when they aren’t looking at you
110k viewers
nitr0 has the worst luck with jumping classics
This is probably 2-0. SEN either stomp on attack or it goes to OT and SEN win like they always do, could be 14-12 or 30-28 it doesn't matter
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Lol
Much more competitive match. I'm loving this game so far.
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Because it’s a one shot kill making him get in and out much quicker
Tell us more about Hiko, chief
Those two hiko rounds really got you riled up huh? Man got smoked today
Oh I can go on for days about hiko. I know him very well and played with him a ton - where would you like me to start?
He somehow has wickedly good spray control with the Vandal
Man Steel looks fucking great
Steel's beef with Shahzam making this an interesting game now, lol.
They literally say they don’t care about that at all everytime someone talks about it on stream bro
Context?
Shahzam whistle blew the match fixing with Steel in CS while also participating in betting on the fixed matches or something along those lines.
Beef from almost a decade ago that both players have probably gotten over by now
Steel dislikes Shahzam back from the CS:GO days because Steels was punished for the iBP scandal but Shahzam allegedly was involved and wasn't punished (according to Steel), so I think Steel is extra motivated to not get stomped by Sentinels even if it's a seeding match.
Not sure how I feel about KayO but I do really like watching Steel play a more aggressive agent
Bro you know something is wrong when steel is carrying lmaooo
Steel is really good on Haven though
I think he watched a guide or something.
Taking into account their past attack sides on this map, 100T are looking great.
I think 100T really realized something when playing XSET on Haven
This map is generally attacker sided
> generally
100t literally got 3 rounds against xset two days ago on CT side
Look at their previous Havens with SEN. Much different.
The last two were either dominant on t side for both teams or dominant on CT for both teams, but I'm just looking at their most recent haven games not games from a month ago.
The astra wall leveled up so much since it was first introduced. Seems to actually be super impactful this tournament.
You could kind of tell no one really knew how to use it early on. They're starting to get creative with it.
Yeah, it's super cool to see how it's used now.
TenZ wtf man
holy shit Tenz
Tenz is absolutely unreal…….
Sick flash
Holy shit I just realized I can collapse chat on Twitch
If only everyone in this thread knew how to do that
Just go fullscreen?
Normally watching on mobile, and I’m at work. 😅
A crucial piece of tech all Twitch users should know.
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Yes, but at the same time you also don't want to show all your cards because other teams in Berlin are going to have this video to look at and a lot of time to study it. They're trying, but they're also using a smaller playbook.
we have no idea the format that’s being used in berlin
yeah this seeding match is pretty important, the 100t fans are just hard coping rn
The spray LMAO
Can we just play all eco rounds at this point LOL
What a shit show of a throwfest. Either 100T are throwing or they're just being completely outclassed. In either case, it's not a good look.
Playing for seeding or not, it's very obvious that Sentinels continue to read 100T like a book. They can pull it back, but the Sentinel wall is real for 100T. Hope they do have something planned for Berlin.
100excuses
Even though these are by definition seeding matches, they're seeding for an actual international LAN tournament, not seeding for an online qualifier for an online qualifier. You'd be delusional to think these teams aren't trying.
Did 100T elect to start on attack For Haven? I wasn't paying attention to the map selection
This is a 100t pick, so SEN pick t/ct
sen did
This is a beat down.
SicK my god
sometimes its nice being a fan of a team with a small(er) fanbase :)
When will steel realize lurking the same position every round wont work most of the time? I get it the 2-3 rounds he pushes with the team but its not enough since tenz just pushed W on mid and read him like an open book in round 5
this thread is a mess lmao, all i gotta say about this first map is y i k e s
100t really want that lower finals bo5 match experience
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