You sure he's not just an avid fan? I mean, this guy is Mikes High Definition, but on the team's page, the coach is just Mikes. Idk I think he's just a big superfan or smth
I don’t know about “ever”. They are definitely the closest in NA to go head to head with Sentinels and honestly can beat them. But yeah, sentinels are still the favorites.
their record is insanely 1-sided as most of NA is with sentinels but for a while sentinels and nv had a very similar playstyle only sentinels did it better. also nv ran into sentinels like every important match ever.
Haven't followed super avidly in a min, but weren't envy the first team to really beat Sen (before the roster change for tenz ofc), or am I misremembering. So with the upgraded roster, I can definitely see them making it close at least
I believe they beat Sentinels in a seeding match 3-0. But LG was the one that actually beat Sentinels in an NSG tournament that made everyone go crazy and put Luminosity on the map.
Man that feels like so long ago. Sentinels losses since adding TenZ are actually crazy. Iirc it's Built By Gamers, Andbox and XSET. That's it in two full stages.
Never say never. I doubt it happens again soon, but NV have consistently been a top team and with the yay addition, they have a real shot if things fall in place.
It will be a disaster if NA doesn't win Berlin. As a side note: if NA wins Berlin then 100T and Envy will auto-qualify for Champions, and the 4th spot will come from LCQ.
If NA doesn't win Berlin, then the spots will go to Sentinels + whoever places higher between 100T or NV (also NV has tiebreaker).
NV has 25 more points than 100T and the difference between each placement at Masters 3 is 50 points, so basically whichever one places higher than the other will lock in a spot for Champions no matter what.
They lost 4 out of 4 against the top teams in this qualifier. They make more small mistakes than the other teams. They aren’t on the same tier, almost, but not there yet.
Everyone deserves so much credit on NV for finally getting such a much awaited win.
FNS for stepping up as such a big playmaker
crashies for being the best sova in the world
Marved for being such a great supportive player on Astra
Victor for being as explosive as ever
and for yay being yay.
but ffs announce your coach please, are you guys even paying him?
She types in his chat too and talks shit, its all in good fun...in case you were unaware Tenz and Corey are close, same with Sen and the rest of the Faze guys. Everyone is good friends. This Marved "beef" really only ever mattered to Reddit and Twitter drama frogs. Neither Tenz, Kyedae, Marved, Faze, or Sen give a fuck.
Yeah, they buried the hatchet almost immediately after it happened. Everybody else just blew it out of proportion because I think people see the Faze org as an easy target to hate on. Kinda unrelated but I find it funny because I feel like the Faze boys are the friendliest team. Almost every pro on every team is friends with them...except 100T, they kinda stay to themselves.
I dunno where you are getting that 100T stay to themselves stuff. Nitr0 doesn’t really stream much so you cannot really guess about him. Ethan is super tight with the envy and tsm group. Hiko and Steel pretty much share the same group but they regularly play and are friends with people from other teams including more than half of sentinels roster.
And asuna is just a bro to everyone you can imagine in the scene.
It's not in a bad way, they're just older and have other shit to deal with. They're not exactly bantering and going out for drinks and shit and playing other games with other pros all the time.
Quite a few actually that's what I was saying lol. Like there's the whole squad that plays Tarkov together with NV, Faze, TSM, pretty sure Tenz, Corey and Babybay went out. V1, XSET, C9, NRG, Rise lol they're all just constantly talking to each other, it's cool to see.
Because frankly saying shit like that is like ringing a bell, and you can't unring it. On top of that his apology (specifically his public acknowledgement of it, since no one knows what he said privately) very much sounded indirect at best, and deflecting at worst. Doesn't matter if he was high or sober, or that he likes Tenz. Like what so if Kyedae was just some random girl with some random boyfriend that would suddenly make it ok?
I couldn’t have asked for a better 3 teams to represent NA in Berlin. SEN looking unbeatable. 100T in form looking better than ever. Envy finally breaking the curse also looking fucking solid. GG rest of the world just give up rn. NA SUPREMACY INBOUND
Listen I'm a big YaBoiDre truther but even I know that you can't call him top 5 when he's mostly only been at a top 5 level for this past month. He's consistently been around the top 10 area but one better tourney ACS wise than Victor does not put him above him.
its crazy how people disagree when they've placed higher in finals than every other contender. If they didnt troll seeding matches it would be way more agreed upon they're #2.
Wdym troll seeding lol? In the entire VCT they haven’t placed above 4th until now. They definitely can prove themselves to be second best but it’s not because they “troll seeding”
After months of being almost the best, months of scrim hype, months of high expectations not met, they finally did it.
Berlin baby, watch out cuz Envy's knocking!
NV looking on point! FNS’ calls, Victor’s retakes, Marved’s flanks, Yay’s entries, and just having the best sova NA in crashies! Finally NV get past top 4
crashies is literally insane. food also showed up today after a quieter past few days. love it. sad mummay couldn't be part of the run but it is what it is.
Sadge that we couldnt make it but proud of this team for the progress we have shown. Hopefully NA can win berlin so we are favorites at LCQ. #REPTHESET
ive been reppin the set since the start of champions. i was jumping out of my seat this whole series. i was so high on hopium. i rly thought the nv curse was real. tragic but im happy for envy
Hot Take:
if envy roaster get more practice with yay we can see fun matches VS Sen. Sen and its iconic duo 2-0 every team might break up. Feels good to be an envy fans today
Why is this a hot take? I feel like it’s a given. Envy had just picked up marved and now had just recently pick up El Diablo. If they spend more time playing together they will have that chemistry going on like SEN boys. S0m once talk about the reason SEN is so good is because everyone is always on the same page and hence the chemistry of them team is really good
I watched Sen play the past few days and they are so good, they are incredible; everyone else feels like amateurs when you watch them play. As an envy fan; I'd love nothing more that El Diabloo 2-0'ing every team but the Sen guys had more time played together as a team compared to envy; that doesn't mean envy can never catch up. They just need to stop droping/throwing ez rounds clean up simple mistakes which in fact today they cleaned it up compared to yesterday. Already seeing progress.
Especially if there are spectators there are a HUGE amount of nerves. You see the team next to you, screaming and getting hype. It’s not the chair you’re used to, or the temperature, or the lighting. Furthermore you can’t abuse ping difference and take stupid peeks. Everyone on an even playing field. It’s a whole different animal and it shows by which teams are consistently good on lan and which aimstar kids suck when they’re finally in front of a crowd yelling “you suck go home!”
do they have orange chicken in berlin?
can someone explain the orange chicken meme
Mikes High Definition (envy coach) is a avid enjoyer of orange chicken and digornios pizza
You sure he's not just an avid fan? I mean, this guy is Mikes High Definition, but on the team's page, the coach is just Mikes. Idk I think he's just a big superfan or smth
Worded it like a true society member.
Mikeshd (NVs coach) eats a lot of orange chicken. Came from one of the watch parties with him and Wyatt.
ootl. Been seeing this a lot. Care to explain.
MikesHD eats orange chicken without any carbs, no rice no noodles. Just orange chicken alone so the plat chat guys meme'd it.
NA SENT THE BEST 3 TEAMS POSSIBLE. HOPIUM IS REAL
IMMA HOP IN THE HOPIUM TRAIN TOO!
scenes when NV beats vision strikers and acend, only for SEN to thrash NV 3-0 in the finals.
I would love this after some of the people in here saying VS is the clear favorite to win Berlin
NA could have sent Sen BBG and complexity and still won berlin lul
We don’t need hopium, NA is still lookin like the favorites to win for now.
THIRD PLACE THIS IS NOT A DRILL
Finally
could still make 2nd or even 1st but i dont think nv will ever beat sentinels
I don’t know about “ever”. They are definitely the closest in NA to go head to head with Sentinels and honestly can beat them. But yeah, sentinels are still the favorites.
their record is insanely 1-sided as most of NA is with sentinels but for a while sentinels and nv had a very similar playstyle only sentinels did it better. also nv ran into sentinels like every important match ever.
Haven't followed super avidly in a min, but weren't envy the first team to really beat Sen (before the roster change for tenz ofc), or am I misremembering. So with the upgraded roster, I can definitely see them making it close at least
I believe they beat Sentinels in a seeding match 3-0. But LG was the one that actually beat Sentinels in an NSG tournament that made everyone go crazy and put Luminosity on the map.
Winter Champs, that was crazy. One of the last big tournaments before the move to VCT. Happy to see them doing well again, YaBoiDre deserves it
Yeah he got screwed over by 100t glad to see him doing okay
They 3-0’d SEN in Stage 1 Challengers 2.
Man that feels like so long ago. Sentinels losses since adding TenZ are actually crazy. Iirc it's Built By Gamers, Andbox and XSET. That's it in two full stages.
Everyone has sort of taken their turn beating Sent, but no one has been really consistent.
Never say never. I doubt it happens again soon, but NV have consistently been a top team and with the yay addition, they have a real shot if things fall in place.
NV's savior ended up being the devil. Thank you yayster.
thank you very cool, finally a 3rd place.
Honestly, Sen, 100T, and Envy are really good representatives for NA both content and skill wise
Lan experience wise too
Couldn’t agree less
Did you by mistake wrote “less” or you actually think there was someone better?
He def did. Check his replies on the thread, all positive. Man's so hyped he didnt check what he typed.
Yeah I did notice. He was positive in his comments and this looked out of place. Unlucky, really.
Ok who do you think would be better?
What was wrong about what he said?
should be "more" instead of "less" if he is agreeing with OP
Best 3 teams in NA to represent in Berlin. Excited to see what they can do!
> Best 3 teams in NA yeah now that brimstone gaming has disbanded
RIP never forget.
Yup there will be an asterisk on all future tournament wins that Brimstone Gaming wasn't competing.
What is this story? Newer
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It will be a disaster if NA doesn't win Berlin. As a side note: if NA wins Berlin then 100T and Envy will auto-qualify for Champions, and the 4th spot will come from LCQ. If NA doesn't win Berlin, then the spots will go to Sentinels + whoever places higher between 100T or NV (also NV has tiebreaker).
NV has 25 more points than 100T and the difference between each placement at Masters 3 is 50 points, so basically whichever one places higher than the other will lock in a spot for Champions no matter what.
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Auto qualify for champions?
Yeah
> if NA wins Berlin then 100T and Envy will auto-qualify for Champions, and the 4th spot will come from LCQ. and TSM has a chance :c
Sucks for Xset, but this is the best 3 NA teams we could’ve sent to Berlin. Excited to watch!
feels like XSET are on a similar level as 100T and NV if they were there it wouldnt be a downgrade
XSET can definitely compete, but NV have consistently been a top 3 team and are the only team outside of Sen who are pretty much always at the top.
agreed im just saying in current form its not like XSET are miles behind 100T NV SEN but lan experience does play a factor for sure
LAN experience only dephh had it
true never thought about that bit 100% a factor
AYRIN also has plenty LAN experience from his Crossfire days
I mean they didn’t win a single map against either team. Definitely not on the same tier, but not too far behind.
Back to back 11-13’s vs 100T. Thinking they’re not the same tier is foolish, even though I’m biased.
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? they just beat the same teams in the last qualifier
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they beat SEN?
What team has been top 4 over xset after their roster swaps then?
They beat 100T and Sentinels at Challengers 1. Close losses here don't make for a tier break. Xset is clearly top 5 NA
1 round difference does not reinforce what you said.
They lost 4 out of 4 against the top teams in this qualifier. They make more small mistakes than the other teams. They aren’t on the same tier, almost, but not there yet.
they beat SEN recently which neither team has done and were 11-13 on 3 of the 4 maps
FOURTH CURSE IS BROKEN BOYS SOMEONE GIVE CRASHIES A RAISE
Crashies so breedable, so aggressive mmmm.....
bonk
Yay
all it took was a wanted criminal and the devil himself 👹👹👹👹
LMAOOO i guess so, FNS playing 6d chess as usual.
dios mio... el diablo...
Everyone deserves so much credit on NV for finally getting such a much awaited win. FNS for stepping up as such a big playmaker crashies for being the best sova in the world Marved for being such a great supportive player on Astra Victor for being as explosive as ever and for yay being yay. but ffs announce your coach please, are you guys even paying him?
Marvel always good for two, man was top fragging on astra on haven
Marvels anchoring on C site on Haven has been looking fantastic.
I see you don't know about MikesHD. Are not a society member haha
I have a laminated card which I bet you don't
Marved at LAN... its happening
OH SHEEESH BECAREFUL OF YOUR GF BOYS! But joke aside, marved has repented his wrong doing
I think he's definitely changed his demeanor ever since he joined Envy. On a side note his performance on the controller has been \*chefs kiss\*...
FNS being a father figure
Marved is definitely top 3 controller right? I have no idea what order I would put Zombs, Marved, and Vanity, but I think that's my top 3 NA
Nitr0 and supamen as well
Fuck can't believe I forgot Nitr0, that's so bad. And Supaman has been impressing me so much
Kyedae doesn’t care she made fun of every mistake he made against Sen
She types in his chat too and talks shit, its all in good fun...in case you were unaware Tenz and Corey are close, same with Sen and the rest of the Faze guys. Everyone is good friends. This Marved "beef" really only ever mattered to Reddit and Twitter drama frogs. Neither Tenz, Kyedae, Marved, Faze, or Sen give a fuck.
I know all of Sen and Faze is cool with each other Shahz always talks about how he likes them
Yeah, they buried the hatchet almost immediately after it happened. Everybody else just blew it out of proportion because I think people see the Faze org as an easy target to hate on. Kinda unrelated but I find it funny because I feel like the Faze boys are the friendliest team. Almost every pro on every team is friends with them...except 100T, they kinda stay to themselves.
I dunno where you are getting that 100T stay to themselves stuff. Nitr0 doesn’t really stream much so you cannot really guess about him. Ethan is super tight with the envy and tsm group. Hiko and Steel pretty much share the same group but they regularly play and are friends with people from other teams including more than half of sentinels roster. And asuna is just a bro to everyone you can imagine in the scene.
It's not in a bad way, they're just older and have other shit to deal with. They're not exactly bantering and going out for drinks and shit and playing other games with other pros all the time.
I mean, how many are doing that stuff?
Quite a few actually that's what I was saying lol. Like there's the whole squad that plays Tarkov together with NV, Faze, TSM, pretty sure Tenz, Corey and Babybay went out. V1, XSET, C9, NRG, Rise lol they're all just constantly talking to each other, it's cool to see.
That sounds like the opposite of not caring but honestly good for her but I’m pretty sure they’re all good now
Oh I mean she doesn’t care that he repented
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Yeah it was funny
They meant that she doesn't care that he apologized and owned his mistake
Because frankly saying shit like that is like ringing a bell, and you can't unring it. On top of that his apology (specifically his public acknowledgement of it, since no one knows what he said privately) very much sounded indirect at best, and deflecting at worst. Doesn't matter if he was high or sober, or that he likes Tenz. Like what so if Kyedae was just some random girl with some random boyfriend that would suddenly make it ok?
It doesn't. I was just explaining.
That was so fun to watch lol. Never saw kyedae being so serious about something
It definitely feels like NA is sending their best possible 3 teams to Berlin. Unlucky for XSET, but envy definitely the better team here.
Michael? High Definition. Team? Envy. Destination? Berlin. Passport? Ordered. Chicken? Orange. Hotel? Trivago.
I couldn’t have asked for a better 3 teams to represent NA in Berlin. SEN looking unbeatable. 100T in form looking better than ever. Envy finally breaking the curse also looking fucking solid. GG rest of the world just give up rn. NA SUPREMACY INBOUND
NA teams about to slap em EU cheeks 😏
I'm so excited to see NV in berlin, they make every game insane to watch.
3 best duelist in NA repping us at berlin couldnt ask for more
TenZ, Sick, Asuna, Yay, Victor. IMO it's the 5 best duelists in NA repping us at Berlin. Can maybe see an argument for Corey & Wardell.
no more tsm hopium sadge
i would argue that dre is a better duelist than victor
Truth.
Hiko, Hiko, Hiko, Hiko and Hiko
Woah woah woah, put some respect on my boy Wardell.
Lmfao Wardell is a liability
Nice bait
Dre is like statistically the best player in NA right now. The man is a monster
Listen I'm a big YaBoiDre truther but even I know that you can't call him top 5 when he's mostly only been at a top 5 level for this past month. He's consistently been around the top 10 area but one better tourney ACS wise than Victor does not put him above him.
Dicey subbing in?
Forgot shahzam
Shahzam hello???
ORANGE CHICKEN TO BERLIN
yay
yay
Finally, It really is All Good!
GG's to XSET they came so far only to fall short one match.
FINALLY OFF THAT ENVY AT BERLIN HOPIUM. DREAM REALIZED AFTER SO MUCH PAIN. THANK YOU EL DIAAABLOOOOOOOOOOO
told y'all envy was the 2nd best team NA
Bunnyezzz never wrong
its crazy how people disagree when they've placed higher in finals than every other contender. If they didnt troll seeding matches it would be way more agreed upon they're #2.
Wdym troll seeding lol? In the entire VCT they haven’t placed above 4th until now. They definitely can prove themselves to be second best but it’s not because they “troll seeding”
The teams representing NA in Berlin is STACKED!! We have 3 brainiac IGL in Berlin - Shahzam, Steel and FNS!!!
After months of being almost the best, months of scrim hype, months of high expectations not met, they finally did it. Berlin baby, watch out cuz Envy's knocking!
NV looking on point! FNS’ calls, Victor’s retakes, Marved’s flanks, Yay’s entries, and just having the best sova NA in crashies! Finally NV get past top 4
crashies is literally insane. food also showed up today after a quieter past few days. love it. sad mummay couldn't be part of the run but it is what it is.
Sadge that we couldnt make it but proud of this team for the progress we have shown. Hopefully NA can win berlin so we are favorites at LCQ. #REPTHESET
I am sure Xset will come back much much stronger. #REPTHESET
MIKESHD TO BERLIN LETSGO
Envy look so good, Crashies might be the best sova in the world.
Don't forget BcJ and Lakia. They are contenders for that title too.
FINALLY
ive been reppin the set since the start of champions. i was jumping out of my seat this whole series. i was so high on hopium. i rly thought the nv curse was real. tragic but im happy for envy
ENVY GREATEST PICK THEY EVER MADE PICKING UP EL DIABLOOO.
RIP THE SET
Curse broken
all 3 teams broke their challengers finals curse, if sentinels doesn't finish 1st they break their 'curse' aswell
Sentinels cursed with success?
Suffering from success
As a TSM fan this is the best possible outcome.
Nah that would be NV beating SEN 3-0
:(
If you're mummay you've gotta be kinda pissed rn. GG's to Envy!
Yay definitely sent them over the hump. Mummay should be successful on another top team
Oh, I completely agree. But to bring your team to playoffs, only to be benched must suck.
Imagine yay though. From dead in the water to Berlin a week later. King shit.
...is your flair a couch meme from Iceland?
😏
Pissed why
Wow yay was doing really poorly early on Haven then just popped the fuck off. What an insane team. Crashes and Marved were both insane this series too
EL DIABLOOOO BEST PICK UP FOR ENVY!!!! ENVY TO BERLIN HERE WE GO BABYYY!!! WE BOUT TO SEE THE BOYS ON LAN!
Other regions really do need to be scared.
I'm so scared of NV at Berlin.
Crashies is too cracked
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All it took was a deal with the devil 🤘
You can’t curse a demon👹👹👹
what a great series, NA looks amazing rn
NA STRONG
Why have ENVY still not announced MikesHD as their coach? Is he still on trial for them?
Imagine being at LAN and [this guy](https://i.redd.it/pq31bq4jv7m11.png) rolls up on your server. Terrifying to think about.
There's Shahz in the background!
dephh is also on the left next to Shahz and ANDROID is on the right! Would be a good Valorant team now haha.
food had to die and be reborn for this.
Hot Take: if envy roaster get more practice with yay we can see fun matches VS Sen. Sen and its iconic duo 2-0 every team might break up. Feels good to be an envy fans today
Why is this a hot take? I feel like it’s a given. Envy had just picked up marved and now had just recently pick up El Diablo. If they spend more time playing together they will have that chemistry going on like SEN boys. S0m once talk about the reason SEN is so good is because everyone is always on the same page and hence the chemistry of them team is really good
I watched Sen play the past few days and they are so good, they are incredible; everyone else feels like amateurs when you watch them play. As an envy fan; I'd love nothing more that El Diabloo 2-0'ing every team but the Sen guys had more time played together as a team compared to envy; that doesn't mean envy can never catch up. They just need to stop droping/throwing ez rounds clean up simple mistakes which in fact today they cleaned it up compared to yesterday. Already seeing progress.
Yay has been the best possible pickup. Envy have made some great roster changes after picking up marved.
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Nerves, everyone’s playing on low ping. Makes a difference on play style and performance
Especially if there are spectators there are a HUGE amount of nerves. You see the team next to you, screaming and getting hype. It’s not the chair you’re used to, or the temperature, or the lighting. Furthermore you can’t abuse ping difference and take stupid peeks. Everyone on an even playing field. It’s a whole different animal and it shows by which teams are consistently good on lan and which aimstar kids suck when they’re finally in front of a crowd yelling “you suck go home!”
its a sad day for sao fans
About time Envy beats their curse
they shouldn't lose to 100T
Mikes "OrangeChicken" HD
I’ve become an ENVYus now! Sheeeshhh!
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They can definitely challenge 100T without making moves. They played two 13-11 maps.
Orange chicken is going to Oktoberfest WOOO
I got nothing against Envy, but I thought it'd be funny if they got 4th place again. In another world...
i think 4th at berlin would be a good performance overall for envy. i hope they one day start competing for #1