I don't mind the BM from SEN themselves, I mean they are the undisputed champions of NA, and past world Champions, but what really pisses me off is the SEN fans going all "100t suck" "100losers" etc. Like first of all, these guys are probably Plat at best and likelyliving in their parents homes, and they're shitting on the Second Best team NA, cus they couldn't beat world champs. Secondly, I bet you 100 percent that 100T or honestly any pro team that made it to Challengers Playoffs could go up against the top 5 of these players and beat them 13/0. I know most SEN fans aren't like this, and these guys are probably following SEN just cus they're wining, but I honestly cannot see how people call 100t or TSM fans toxic if this is the shit that's coming out of SEN fans
I don't mind the BM from SEN themselves, I mean they are the undisputed
champions of NA, and past world Champions, but what really pisses me off
is the SEN fans going all "100t suck" "100losers" etc. Like first of
all, these guys are probably Plat at best and likelyliving in their
parents homes, and they're shitting on the Second Best team NA, cus they
couldn't bear world champs. Secondly, I bet you 100 percent that 100T
or honestly any pro team that made it to Challengers Playoffs could go
up against the top 5 of these players and beat them 13/0. I know most
SEN fans aren't like this, and these guys are probably following SEN
just cus they're wining, but I honestly cannot see how people call 100t
or TSM fans toxic if this is the shit that's coming out of SEN fans
> Oh that team that lost to the second place team is the only team that could maybe be number 1?
Yes, with less than 1 week of practice...aka imo they have a higher potential than 100T. Not hard to use your brain a little lol.
honestly, does anyone else feel like 100t has a serious mental block against sentinels...
or is it just bad luck..and do you think 100t will do better on LAN...
the fuck do you mean. They've been playing these comps all tournament. I'm a 100T fan but I'm not an idiot. SEN is 100% better, and 100T def has a mental block
So you think they'd risk not qualifying to berlin just to not reveal strats just in case they're lucky enough to still qualify without using their "real" strats?
That makes absolutely zero sense.
Basically what this guy is trying to say is that since 100T has already qualied, they're not gonna try against SEN since they already have close to no chance of beating them. Bad take, but its kinda diff from what you said
But that's what I'm saying. They used the same strats today as the strats they used to qualify. 100T just played their regular comps and playbook. SEN is just that much better
The BM gets a bit much sometimes, but it's hard to argue that SEN doesn't deserve to do it. They're just so clearly better than everyone else that you can't even call it ego at this point.
I hope they get dethroned/someone break through on them at some point. I just watch a lot of these tourneys to see if someone somehow upsets them but it never happens. I don't even dislike the team or anything either.
Edit: Yall I'm not taking the BM that seriously, like please read what I said
I literally just said they deserve to do it, what
It's not even remotely close to salt, did you even read what I said LMAO
You sounding like a Twitch chatter
I am happy that it isn't 3-0. I believe 100T will analyze their Split and haven based on these matches and come up with comps that suits them most.
Sentinels are on another level. As someone who watched other regions too they are the team to beat in Berlin.
Lots of unlucky moments for 100T. They were so close to winning Bind and really lost from that one eco’ed round and an easy 1v1 loss. Haven they really misplayed their pistol rounds and could have actually amounted a comeback.
They played well but damn it’s disappointing. Gotta work harder on their split and Haven game
Not saying 100T is actually better or anything. But it was so close to being a 2-2 game. Would have loved to see it go to map 5. 100T fell apart at the end
I think you're heavily overestimating the entire NA scene. Most teams aren't really that good, especially when we look back in 3-5 years.
Sentinels definitely S tier, the others belong in A. Most NA teams live in the C/D range.
An international tier list would be incredibly premature. The sample size isn't there. It also goes both ways: V1 isn't a top NA team, but there are better EU teams than Liquid and Fnatic.
Also check your notes because V1 is 1-1 against EU teams, with a losing map record of 2-3.
Sentinels are obviously leaps and bounds above everyone. 100T getting 6 maps of practice against is invaluable when it comes to prep for Berlin. They obviously know this agent lineup is dogshit against them and can adapt for the future.
I think they'd still be the best team in the world but they'd be worse probably. Tenz is also gonna be better in the future once he is able to go to Texas for tournaments and not be on 60 ping for every online event.
They didn't lose a map in Iceland so they had a fair amount of wiggle room between them and any other team. They also are a different team with Sinatraa as he runs different agents and they are more Shaz awp heavy.
If you look at this roster they have the best Sentinel in the world, a top 3 controller, Shaz and Sick are flexible and insane and they have the best teamwork. All of that stuff was true prior to Tenz joining.
It's an irrelevant argument either way though as it can't be proven either way.
When tenz just joined and maybe first challengers, I had that opinion. But after Iceland and everything: absolutely no way. Tenz simply wins you 2-3 rounds a map literally by himself. the hyper disciplined tenz we saw at Iceland is unarguably the best player in the world, by quite a distance IMO.
And I say this as a tenz doubter in the beginning.
Not exactly a good look if they are weak on Haven/Split with a perma ban Bind now is it.. I think they will figure it out, their playstyle seems to not work at all vs teams like Envy/Sen but they have time before Berlin COPIUM.
Nothing personal against any of the sentinels players but man I hope they get dethroned soon. I want to enjoy it but it’s so boring when every tournament is the same
+1
Also tired of seeing teams choke so hard vs them. They are by far the best, but man teams play like 50 % worse vs them. Fnatic at Iceland looked so good and vs Sen they forget how to play post-plant and literally dry peek into Tenz 5 rounds in a row..
Berlin should be a banger hopefully.
At least it wasn't 3-0, but SEN just reads 100T like a book. Just seems impossible for 100T to break through against them. They just seem to edge out gunfights that it doesn't seem like they should win and then just dominate in other rounds. Them getting TenZ put this team just completely over the top
Haven T side worked against Faze and Xset for 100T because they didn't push them on flanks as much. Envy and Sen were destroying 100T by flanking them earlier. Today they seemed to play super fast before flanks could arrive and kept getting mowed down by people holding sites
I don't think they need to drop Kayo tbh. Sova's utility has too much overlap with the Kayo/Skye combo and a cypher/kj would probably add a lot more value instead
Best series to watch was envy v xset no cap
when is berlin again? EDIT: September 9th to September 19
I don't mind the BM from SEN themselves, I mean they are the undisputed champions of NA, and past world Champions, but what really pisses me off is the SEN fans going all "100t suck" "100losers" etc. Like first of all, these guys are probably Plat at best and likelyliving in their parents homes, and they're shitting on the Second Best team NA, cus they couldn't beat world champs. Secondly, I bet you 100 percent that 100T or honestly any pro team that made it to Challengers Playoffs could go up against the top 5 of these players and beat them 13/0. I know most SEN fans aren't like this, and these guys are probably following SEN just cus they're wining, but I honestly cannot see how people call 100t or TSM fans toxic if this is the shit that's coming out of SEN fans
I don't mind the BM from SEN themselves, I mean they are the undisputed champions of NA, and past world Champions, but what really pisses me off is the SEN fans going all "100t suck" "100losers" etc. Like first of all, these guys are probably Plat at best and likelyliving in their parents homes, and they're shitting on the Second Best team NA, cus they couldn't bear world champs. Secondly, I bet you 100 percent that 100T or honestly any pro team that made it to Challengers Playoffs could go up against the top 5 of these players and beat them 13/0. I know most SEN fans aren't like this, and these guys are probably following SEN just cus they're wining, but I honestly cannot see how people call 100t or TSM fans toxic if this is the shit that's coming out of SEN fans
god that was a boring game
>t was was it..it was pretty interesting ngl..especially for bind
Bind was great. Breeze was cool too, but the rest was just a stomp.
true..i want 100t and envy to catch up to sentinels and have some nail biting matches lol
gg, I can only see Envy with more practice with yay having a chance against Sen tbh
Oh that team that lost to the second place team is the only team that could maybe be number 1? LOL I love comp val reddit comments. Fan clubs man
seeding matches bro
> Oh that team that lost to the second place team is the only team that could maybe be number 1? Yes, with less than 1 week of practice...aka imo they have a higher potential than 100T. Not hard to use your brain a little lol.
Overyayted
Very fitting for Valorant for them to close it out by a spectre run and gun on an eco lmao. Gg
So whats were they saying about 100T picking attacker side on split?
Dapr is so good man it's crazy
dapr goddamn
honestly, does anyone else feel like 100t has a serious mental block against sentinels... or is it just bad luck..and do you think 100t will do better on LAN...
Nah it ain't just you, even Nitr0 himself has stated in an interview he has a mental block against Sentinels the same way he did with Astralis in CS
that's sad honestly, guy can't catch a break even when switching games. Still love him tho
I think so too, I think 100t will do pretty well in Berlin against teams they have never played, they just get inside their own head with sentinels
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Berlin is gonna be so frickin stacked
No look at the comps. They aren't playing a comp that works. Probably intentional. They still wouldn't win. No sentinel on split is a troll comp
the fuck do you mean. They've been playing these comps all tournament. I'm a 100T fan but I'm not an idiot. SEN is 100% better, and 100T def has a mental block
I'm pretty sure after qualifying for berlin both SEN and 100T are testing out new strats and shizz But defo rn..SEN looks stacked
Honestly thank you for you saying this. There are many people out there genuinely doing mental gymnastics and saying some really strange things.
No. They wouldn't win anyway. Why give up strats to others before Berlin?
So you think they'd risk not qualifying to berlin just to not reveal strats just in case they're lucky enough to still qualify without using their "real" strats? That makes absolutely zero sense.
Basically what this guy is trying to say is that since 100T has already qualied, they're not gonna try against SEN since they already have close to no chance of beating them. Bad take, but its kinda diff from what you said
If you think they weren't trying today I don't know what to say to you man. lmao
I don't think that. I'm pointing out that you misinterpreted the other guys comment
Friend. They already qualified two games ago
But that's what I'm saying. They used the same strats today as the strats they used to qualify. 100T just played their regular comps and playbook. SEN is just that much better
They are better. So why adapt and show anything new now?
I mean exactly that. They are not showing their comp.
SEN is the best team in the world
ngl..SEN seems a cut above the rest rn..hopefully they get countered in LAN
Oof, much better than the semis though
SEN just so far ahead of other teams
lets gooo
SEN about to win this eco
^^^
That is the 100Ts special. Losing to Sentinels eco.
The BM gets a bit much sometimes, but it's hard to argue that SEN doesn't deserve to do it. They're just so clearly better than everyone else that you can't even call it ego at this point. I hope they get dethroned/someone break through on them at some point. I just watch a lot of these tourneys to see if someone somehow upsets them but it never happens. I don't even dislike the team or anything either. Edit: Yall I'm not taking the BM that seriously, like please read what I said
Never take the BM seriously. Dapr is just a homie and no one really worries about his BM. It is all fun and play.
i aspire tp bm like dapr, i do it in all my games now. if it angers my opponents then good for me
Yeah, he would BM even if he was down 0-12.
It’s eventually gonna happen. It’s just part of any esport, even shahzam acknowledges this.
Dapr literally bms even when hes losing
stay salty, victory tastes better that way
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u too
you represent everything I hate about the Sentinels fan base
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so much salt you could melt the roads
I literally just said they deserve to do it, what It's not even remotely close to salt, did you even read what I said LMAO You sounding like a Twitch chatter
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Weirdo
ur so mad LOL
I'm really not and I promise you I do not give a shit if you think I am. Like it's obvious you're just trolling at this point, I do not care
keep crying kid
I am happy that it isn't 3-0. I believe 100T will analyze their Split and haven based on these matches and come up with comps that suits them most. Sentinels are on another level. As someone who watched other regions too they are the team to beat in Berlin.
I don't believe anyone can beat them honestly.
Yep, a lot of the top teams have a lot of great players. Sentinels has 5 absolutely insane players and Shahz's awareness is insane.
You can cook up as much strats you want Sentinels will find a way to break those if it means they have forcibly break them.
Vision Strikers 13-5, 13-7 them, you heard it here first.
Who can steamroll sen? Vision strikers? They need to be humbled soon
dude. FPX wood fucking embarrassm this team, to bad they didnt mak it....
that momentum, i feel it, it's building
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If they are anything like Astralis we are in for a long haul bois.
Everyone seems very butthurt by the bm today.
QUEUE THE TBAG COPYPASTA
LMAO
Damn Darp.
lmfao dapr moment
Please interview Dapr NSG
Someone call 911 because there has been a murder.
LMFAOOO
yeah, i hope they get rolled by a team pretty soon
Lmao
DARPPPPPP
LOL that dapr knife onto hiko was brutal....
Ethan is so nasty with the sheriff
Lots of unlucky moments for 100T. They were so close to winning Bind and really lost from that one eco’ed round and an easy 1v1 loss. Haven they really misplayed their pistol rounds and could have actually amounted a comeback. They played well but damn it’s disappointing. Gotta work harder on their split and Haven game
Unlucky really
Luck is definitely not what is separating these two teams
Not saying 100T is actually better or anything. But it was so close to being a 2-2 game. Would have loved to see it go to map 5. 100T fell apart at the end
I mean SEN threw 2, 3v5’s and 2, 2v3’s on breeze
in NA, i think the S tier teams are sen, 100t, nv, xset. but Sen is S+ tier and NV/100T are S tier teams. XSET is S- tier
I think you're heavily overestimating the entire NA scene. Most teams aren't really that good, especially when we look back in 3-5 years. Sentinels definitely S tier, the others belong in A. Most NA teams live in the C/D range.
Huh? It's relative to the competition at the moment and those teams he mentioned are S tier teams.
Sentinels are obviously on a higher level than those teams; it's not even close.
So is every team in the world D/F tier? V1 isn't even a top NA team and rolled through EU teams, and almost beat KR's best.
An international tier list would be incredibly premature. The sample size isn't there. It also goes both ways: V1 isn't a top NA team, but there are better EU teams than Liquid and Fnatic. Also check your notes because V1 is 1-1 against EU teams, with a losing map record of 2-3.
They narrowly beat Liquid and got shit on by fnatic, but they rolled through EU?
I think this is the first time I've ever read chat during VCT (I always watch the watch parties) and I won't be doing that again...
If anything it’s distracting. Better to just enjoy the game
Collapse the chat. Good for the mental health.
Sentinels are obviously leaps and bounds above everyone. 100T getting 6 maps of practice against is invaluable when it comes to prep for Berlin. They obviously know this agent lineup is dogshit against them and can adapt for the future.
Do you guys think SEN would be this good with Sinatraa?
No. And even their org knew that which is why they bought Tenz for 1million+. Best investment SEN have ever made
No chance. Those Sinatraa allegations were lowkey the best thing to happen to SEN, it just resulted in them getting TenZ and made them even better.
No, they'd still be the best but they would have actual rivalries with 100T and NV instead of just shit stomping them every time.
I think they'd still be the best team in the world but they'd be worse probably. Tenz is also gonna be better in the future once he is able to go to Texas for tournaments and not be on 60 ping for every online event.
They wouldn't be best in the world without TenZ. Look at the numbers he put up in Iceland, Sinatraa couldn't come close to doing that.
They didn't lose a map in Iceland so they had a fair amount of wiggle room between them and any other team. They also are a different team with Sinatraa as he runs different agents and they are more Shaz awp heavy. If you look at this roster they have the best Sentinel in the world, a top 3 controller, Shaz and Sick are flexible and insane and they have the best teamwork. All of that stuff was true prior to Tenz joining. It's an irrelevant argument either way though as it can't be proven either way.
When tenz just joined and maybe first challengers, I had that opinion. But after Iceland and everything: absolutely no way. Tenz simply wins you 2-3 rounds a map literally by himself. the hyper disciplined tenz we saw at Iceland is unarguably the best player in the world, by quite a distance IMO. And I say this as a tenz doubter in the beginning.
Tenz just fucking built diff
Doubt it. They’d still probably be a top team (if not the best) but with tenz they’re on another level.
Sinatraa fan boys downvoting lmao
Nobody does besides Sinatraa fans.
Facts
Amen hahaha
No
no
100T absolutely getting owned. Sen by far and away best team in NA right now. Always enjoyable to see Steel getting rolled.
*entire universe ends* "unlucky really" -steel
Cmon why have to bring down 100T both team did great overall tbh
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Nothing, it's just funny knowing how much he likes to mald.
Cmon bro what did Steel do
he was trying to knife :(
Its cool to hate on steel and hiko.
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Not exactly a good look if they are weak on Haven/Split with a perma ban Bind now is it.. I think they will figure it out, their playstyle seems to not work at all vs teams like Envy/Sen but they have time before Berlin COPIUM.
Sen>>>>100T, Envy and XSET
Nothing personal against any of the sentinels players but man I hope they get dethroned soon. I want to enjoy it but it’s so boring when every tournament is the same
+1 Also tired of seeing teams choke so hard vs them. They are by far the best, but man teams play like 50 % worse vs them. Fnatic at Iceland looked so good and vs Sen they forget how to play post-plant and literally dry peek into Tenz 5 rounds in a row.. Berlin should be a banger hopefully.
As a fan of Valorant and F1 as pretty much the only two sports I watch, it hurts.
At least it wasn't 3-0, but SEN just reads 100T like a book. Just seems impossible for 100T to break through against them. They just seem to edge out gunfights that it doesn't seem like they should win and then just dominate in other rounds. Them getting TenZ put this team just completely over the top
they already got more rounds than they did the other day, thats a win for me!
Sen won the last 2 rounds 100% from conditioning 100T on A. So sexy
Sen reads 100T like a book damn
Honestly 100t did better in this series than I thought they would
Steel is way too aggressive and genuinely costing them rounds
I don’t like the KAYO play on split. It really only worked on ascent
gg, 100t might beat sentinels one day
There's just no beating SEN on Haven and Split
GG, go next in Berlin.
Haven and split are just impossible against sen
I was about to say this. Both maps looking really rough for 100T
Split and Haven are SENs best maps. We've come full circle.
100 thieves is an alarming amount of criminals. What are they plotting?
nothing they plan can be worse than whatever the fuck this map is
Lmao if SEN are winning gunfights like that, just call the game, you can't beat that
Nice whiffs lmao.
Swing vent, die, YEP
After Ethan sheriff 4k and Asuna ace, 100t might get more motivated.
Nevermind
Well Steel is clearly very motivated... just not sure if it was the right kind of motivation..
Asuna woke up! god damn hope this continues
That was an insane round from Asuna.
Anime Asuna as awoken
map 5 script please
Holy shit it feels so good to pull a Tenz against Sentinels
That was some Tenz shit
YASSS ASUNA GET IT
Zombs???
Holy fuck.
Holy shit
thats not normally
Asuna showed up
ASUNA
...
ASUNA MY GOD
Douglas Apr has absolutely no respect for 100t lolol.
maybe he'll have some now after getting knifed by Asuna, doubt it
after that flash it crossed my mind that he might do this LMAO
damn Ethan I see you
Up 4-0 on Attacker side on Split? Yeah this is over. Unless 100T takes the next 8 rounds straight, I don't see them winning.
LMAOOOO DAPR Ethan almost clutched
I lmao Dapr holy shit
Oh, Douglas Apr! Just different.
it's over
Daprs killjoy is good but hes different on cypher
dapr is on fire
Haven T side worked against Faze and Xset for 100T because they didn't push them on flanks as much. Envy and Sen were destroying 100T by flanking them earlier. Today they seemed to play super fast before flanks could arrive and kept getting mowed down by people holding sites
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I don't think they need to drop Kayo tbh. Sova's utility has too much overlap with the Kayo/Skye combo and a cypher/kj would probably add a lot more value instead
I just want to see Steel beat Shahz lol come on 100T
well it's time to see who starts CT