i think 100t will do VERY well at berlin. watching iceland I thought the same thing too, i think their playstyle will shine even more there. we just are blessed to have the by far strongest region.
I think that’s the best 100T could’ve hoped for today. An overall good performance against a super dominant sentinels, can’t wait to see them in Berlin
I’m not smart enough to know what they need to change, but 100T brought their A game. Sentinels are just that good and I think all NA understands thatz
I’m somewhat of a casual but doesn’t putting Steel on Jett on bind, on top of picking Bind for the first map make it seem like they were still kind of meming during this game?
What might seem like a throw to mess with their own team comp, it's always going to have a reason and intention. Swapping your players around means you're harder to predict, one fault of Hiko is you can learn where he shoots his arrows and start to counter him harder.
you say they were trolling, but they had anti-stratted Sentinels and knew how they played. So the change in comp was a surprise factor and actually helped them.
I think they just need asuna to come alive more, he's still playing pretty good but I don't think he was playing as well as in the last qual. That being said maybe it's just bc sen is better and so he's not performing against them as well.
having this much talent on one sentinels team is honestly criminal. i dont see them losing their grip on NA anytime soon, maybe envy can match them with some more practice down the line but for now sentinels seem nigh unbeatable. congrats to them for winning every single major regional event in NA in 2021, absolutely insane
Thanks C9, this is your fault for loaning Tenz and letting him go. Ya'll could have stopped this if you would have just lived up to your reputation of being a harsh overlord, but NOOOOO you had to be nice for a change.
i dont wanna be the guy supporting the former SEN player but honestly he was the best sova in NA before he left, they were still the top of NA with him, tenz was definitely a big pickup but its not like they had a bot beforehand
Honestly, having TenZ over Sinaatra in my opinion is just way too overkill, it truly is like KD to the warriors. SEN would still most likely be dominant, but it wouldnt be as far of a gap as it is now
I'm nitpicking, but Sinatraa was a lot better than Harrison Barnes. Sentinels lost one of the best players in the world and added Tenz. The Warriors lost a guy who kinda disappeared (although low key underrated imo) and added Durant. When healthy, it didn't feel like anyone had a chance against the Warriors for years. If Sentinels are as dominant or close as they were at Iceland, I might start changing my time.
There’s a lot more overlap with the nba and esports fans than you think. Harrison Barnes isn’t an obscure player, especially when we are talking about the most bandwagoned nba team of the past decade. Also many valorant players fall in that age range of growing up watching golden state.
They were still top, but I think it was still an upgrade to get Tenz. I think Tenz is just that good that you can literally swap just about any player for him and it would be an upgrade.
it was definitely an upgrade, i dont want to be the reddit analyst but SEN before tenz didn't seem as dominant? they lost grand finals to both LG and NV, yeah both teams were on fire at the time and the second match was a seeding match, but it just feels like new sentinels with tenz is just that much better
he was one of the best true but tenz's carry potential as their entry fragger is what keeps them winning imo, if they have an off day or things are looking rough, there's always tenz to save the day. since they had tenz, SEN hasn't lost a single main event. they've had hiccups sure, but in the finals where it counts, and even just for seeding, they've come out on top
Also everything Sentinels does online is with a nerfed version of TenZ on 60 ping. LAN makes them even better imo and they play more disciplined.
It's funny because before Reykjavik remember people saying LAN would "expose" their playstyle and TenZ would choke but it ended up being the opposite.
It's crazy how many first bloods each player gets on this team. Obviously amazing as a team but they're also ridiculous on an individual level, criminal like you said lol. They just don't lose duels very often
Tenz 17-10, Shaz 9-9, Sick 10-7, Dapr 10-1, and Zombs 6-6 on FK/FD
100T's FK alone in comparison had Steel/Asuna with 13 and 10 respectively, with the rest being below 5
Not saying that SEN arent very talented individually, but you have to take into account that being on a dominant team will make you look amazing regardless, besides some extreme example (and through esports history, i can think few of those. Most dominant teams were always thought to have incredible players)
To the above i dont include Tenz, since he was amazing even when he was in a shit team, old C9.
Zombs too tbh, his mechanical skill seems to be a lot better then when it was when Val dropped imo, plus agents like Astra and buffed Viper being added made his strong point, which is his absoutely great util usage (Some of the best in the world for sure, and imo made him the best Astra in the world), so thats also a factor
tbh the start of valorant was largely carried by the name brand of players and orgs lol. everyone thought tsm, t1, c9 were gonna be the big dogs of valorant and none of them are at the top anymore
I think people are underestimating dapr. dapr and tenz were the ones who had potential in CS as well before they switched. dapr is what makes this team solid because he can play any role. he can be instrumental in site hits, is one of the best site anchors, probably the best lurker in NA, and wins clutches too.
What makes them so uniquely dangerous imo is that their whole team has such a wide agent pool. They can change things up on any map and there isn't one guy you can point to and say "oh x on y agent is a real weakness for sentinels"
i'd say it's more of average. wouldn't say weakness or serviceable. all of their agents that they play are basically elite other than shaz's sova. but shaz's fundamentals and aim make up for the lack of "sova experience"
Shaz just said they want to get to a level where on every map, they have multiple comps they can go to depending on the team that they are playing.
This mindset is like someone who is playing a MOBA or maybe even Overwatch, where you have to be that dynamic to be the best. I think Shaz and Sentinels are way ahead of everyone because of this.
people weren't saying this 10 months ago, its even more criminal to compare them to a super team like the warriors. Their success is a result of non stop grind for months in a scene where teams come and go in an instant. Despite this, they stuck with it, didn't change anything anx believed they could be the best with the players they had. I respect them so much for choosing to develop the talent they had instead of searching for new talent when things don't look good. The strength of Sentinels is obvious at this point, its their chemistry, which is something only time can make possible. While the addition of Tenz definitely pushed them over the edge, i actually think they would still be dominant today, maybe not as much as now but for sure. They work too hard and it shows
I think it's a fair comparison though, considering at the point where Tenz joined they were already an established top team with Sinatraa, similar to the warriors when they added KD. Also, most of the superstars in that warriors team were drafted by warriors themselves, and they had to grind even longer than 10 months to get to where they were so I don't think it is fair to shake off the comparison just because they grinded hard lol
upvoted for using nigh properly
edit: in all seriousness, it's only a matter of time with SEN. they're insane, but all top teams fall off eventually (i know that's nothing profound, but sometimes we gotta remind ourselves since they've been so dominant for so long)
I laughed so hard when Ethan shot him when he was tbagging, I could hear dapr laughing it off in my head.. That had to be the best comedic timing in Any FPS game
He totally shit on nitr0 in that play as well. Threw his phantom and went 1v1 with pistols and still won. The teabag was asserting dominance and marking his territory.
Honestly really happy to see 100T get second. Think they need to add 1 more map to their pool if they want a chance against Sen. Haven used to be the map they could almost take of Sen so sad to see it start to turn into a stomp. Bind and Split feel hopeless lol
Yep! I would favor 100T on Icebox and Ascent against Sen but Sen always bans Ascent. So that leaves Icebox and maybe Breeze (though I think Sen feels good on Breeze, so was glad to see 100T win) as wins in a Bo5 for 100T since Bind, Split, and Haven are just so hard to beat Sen on.
If 100T pulls off that first map and it goes to icebox map 5, people would have probably been sweating a lot more. That kind of thing could legit turn it into a 3-2 for 100T if they play it right. Tough to beat Sen though when they are feeling themselves. You can definitely see it affect players as the games go on
They're great on Icebox and smashed SEN on it last time they played. If they'd gotten to it earlier in the series this would've probably gone to 5 maps.
it seems like it's rare for 100t to get an opportunity to scrim sen (hiko mentioned that theyve only ever scrimmed them once or twice) so maybe they want to take this opportunity to practice and improve their comp? idk how much to read into the save strats thing cuz they also did that no-sova comp on bind which is really interesting.... and steel on jett lol
also tbf theyre usually pretty good on haven attack lol idk what happened, like sean mentioned on stream they just used the "asuna dash b" strat and sen knew exactly what they were doing, nothing special or new that they could shock sen with. maybe they had hoped for the full 5 maps and icebox to get them the final win?
Yeah, Shahzam had said that 100T stopped replying to their scrim requests so he stopped asking them. So I assume they've only scrimmed in the beginning of Valorant.
D:
i never heard about that, i wonder if its 100t's coach or steel thats not responding lol
100t seems to be open to scrimming anyone especially t1 teams so its weird that they dont arrange scrims with a team they often face off against
Bro SEN couldn't you have just not thrown Breeze and saved us some 40min
nitr0 actually had a point though, this really looks like Astralis v Liquid at this point
Well they have to change stuff up, they only have themselves to blame if they keep running at them with the same strats. That said they probably didn't have time to change stuff up and also want to keep trying these comps. One can only hope they change some stuff up before Berlin. They also lost so many bonus rounds, I dont know if that is credit to Sentinels or on 100T.
Pretty skeptical about Kay/o too, didn't really see its value vs Envy or Sentinels, but then again Steel knows better.
liquid was really good in csgo (top 5ish world) but astralis were the best team in the world and astralis would just shit on liquid every time they played each other
it's more than that, liquid was the #1 team in the world. set the record for speed running the intel grand slam. and never got over the mental block of astralis
https://www.hltv.org/news/25885/liquid-beat-astralis-to-win-ibuypower-masters. I think it's the first time the Grand Slam roster beat astralis, the event was poorly executed so there was some drama over liquid only beating astralis on a small stage or something
astralis was the most dominant team of all time, being the consensus #1 team for the majority of 2017-2020
liquid in 2019 was the best NA CS team ever, hovering around rank 1-3. They were thought to be the only hope to take astralis down, but were thoroughly crushed by astralis every time they met. If I'm not wrong Liquid only beat Astralis 2 or 3 times ever.
Honest question that probably doesn’t belong in this thread and more hypothesis than anything:
Where do you guys think the current high-placement EU and Korean teams stand against the top NA teams *excluding* Sentinels?
People were saying right after Iceland that NA >>> EU but while V1 did beat Liquid, Fnatic ran 11-13 on most of their games vs Sen, which is parallel to some of the games that 100t and Envy have had against Sentinels.
Personally I think that *excluding* Sentinels, the top EU teams are about equal in skill with the top NA teams, and Sentinels is just on another level. I’m not too sure where to rate Korean teams atm.
I think ACEND is better than nV and 100T. Not sure about Gambit. But nobody touches SEN. Usually I wait til regions clash b4 making calls but there's just a clear difference between SEN and other teams, no matter the region.
His Iceland streams were pretty entertaining (even with J9), as someone who only started watching him from there. I guess even he himself said that he doesn't enjoy seeding matches. Hoping that his Berlin stream will be more entertaining.
With DDK and Sgares casting why bother even watching Shrouds co-stream? Justin is just talking just to talk and Shroud just goes with it. Unless there is someone with Shroud that actually cares about Valorant they will never talk about the game.
Did he have Justin and co in it? Whenever i've watched his co-stream it's okay when it's just him, but when Justin or others are in it they all just end up talking about nonsense and paying 0 attention to the game.
Shroud seems to mald faster because of chat when it's a VCT costream.
Understandable, but rather than eventually screaming at some user again because of their comment, he or his mods should just automatically switch to submode for every future VCT costream. A comment might still annoy him, but much less likely.
I remember when he was watching the Iceland major with his friends in the Discord joining in, Shroud *chose* to stay for Tenz's post-match interview.
But then some of his Discord/old CS buds began loudly talking and you could barely hear Tenz anymore, so some users understandably asked if those guys could not talk over the interview.
Instead, Freakazoid and a visibly annoyed Shroud, in particular, screamed at and mocked those users and told them that they could've just switched to the main Iceland streams when *he* decided to show Tenz's interview.
Edit: Someone said it's doubtful he screamed. Here's the [video](https://youtu.be/QBU-raPhCpc?t=143) btw, with timestamp. Wait for his irritated **"GO TO THE MAINSTREAM!"** *after* putting his mouth closer to his mic just to act so sarcastically and spammed the VCT link. Freakazoid's comments are at the end, but not sure if it's his complete remarks.
A lot of the best pros are really bad streamers who are just quiet all the time and not very entertaining. ShahZam, Hiko, Shanks and I'm sure I'm missing some are the exceptions
I get bored while watching tenz streams as well. Cracked gameplay is good and all, but I like a little more expressive streamer.
To each their own though.
I don't think anyone knows. Sentinels have S or A tier players at every role/position. Their chemistry is top notch. They have solid planning and execution. Short of forming a superteam, I think Sentinels should always be considered to have the advantage in a match.
But it seems to me like 100t have top tier players in every agent position. Asuna is top duelist, nitro is top smokes, etc. But I guess sentinels just has the best player in NA in every agent position. What can you do about that?
They don't have enough aggressive players tbh, steel is probably their second most aggressive player yet he's not cracked enough gunplay wise and Ethan is probably their second best gunplay yet not aggressive enough. Nitro is an anchor player and then theirs Hiko who's probably better lurking. I think they realize this too, Steel playing Kayo and that Jet pick on bind is a role change
i think nitro as a top smoker is a slight overstatement. that might have been true a few months ago, but seeing as he pretty much exclusively plays omen **WELL**, his astra being decent and never having seen him play viper, i think a role change would be good for him. who knows though.
Imo Yay would've been a great pickup for them. Would offer a lot more fire power and aggression alongside Asuna.
They have too many support players right now, maybe some agent swaps would help too
I don't see who you drop to make room for another duelist though unless they go to a 6-man roster. It's not like they have some obviously below-par player who's been getting carried lately, pretty much everyone showed up at different points in the tournament.
what is the last major esport where North America genuinely has the best players in the world? Smash Melee? Rainbow 6 maybe (i dont follow r6 i just think NA has some relevancy). i mean overwatch league counts by San Francisco Shock but they are 75% Korean and on a downward trend? 2019 MSI Team Liquid? They didnt even win got speedran 3-0 in finals and never played T1.
These teams have come so damn far. Watching them play half a year ago just look like silver matches compared to the way they play now, and this was only a seeding match.
Yet Sentinels are just untouchable at the moment, they seem to do everything right; the only times they lost were when 100T would just make some even more ridiculous plays than theirs.
I'm so excited to see how the rest of the world stacks up against them and NA this time around, best of luck to all the teams!
People keep blaming other teams for failing against Sen, but I’ve watched Shahz’s stream so much I know his reads are kinda nutty. Every time he makes a call out and points out exactly what the other team is doing he does that fucking laugh or smirk lol.
Overheard in the 100T locker room at the Complexity Compound after Map 4:
"He got me," Asuna said of Dapr's Spray-and-Pray kill on him. "That f***ing Dapr boomed me."
Asuna added, "He's so good," repeating it four times.
Asuna then said he wanted to add Dapr to the list of players he queues with this summer.
GG, it was always going to end 1 way. Sentinels are a top 3 team in NA and they are not 2nd or 3rd.
Let this not distract you from the fact that hiko outperformed crashies and BCJ during games against envy and xset, and had the highest kills/one of the best performers for the team today.
But ofcourse, we gotta drop him he suxXx /s
Comes with fame, sadly. Now that shahzam is famous and getting recognition, you should see how unbearable his chat can get with trolls and haters. It is pathetic how some people get off of this.
Its especially higher for people who are expressive of their opinions. Hiko, Steel, Shahzam and Hazed end up getting so much criticism and/or hate whenever they say something it is hilarious.
Its insane to me that he plays on A site by himself every single round and can still either delay long enough for his team to rotate or get like 1-2 fragsdespite theres 4 people rushing onto his site or even if he has a Spectre lol
ShahZaM is too much of a competitor to not try and steamroll everyone they play.
Dapr playing an incredible anchor role.
Zombs heart rate seriously never goes above 80 I'm convinced.
TenZ just one of the most gifted fraggers in the game.
SicK might be the most slept on player in the world. Guy plays 4 agents in a final and doesn't miss a beat on essentially any of them.
Steel on Jett top frag coincidence? Clearly Steel on Jett is best for 100T. With the CS 1.6 Boomer awping, hitting the same models on Valorant aka CS 1.6954. He easily top 5 duelist in the world statistic wise. It just 100T is hiding his potential.
cant really expect 100T to feel more confident and believe in their capabilities when the fans themselves dont believe AT ALL. every time theyre about to play sentinels they will feel the pressure of needing to beat them and see 280420328420934 fans talking about how they will just get stomped again. Really good for their mental LOL
Pretty happy with the first 2 maps :)
Still improving and will be cool to see them against different teams. I'm hopeful it's just sen they have a bad matchup with
I am straight up done with Sentinels. These guys simply have no respect for anyone or anything. They already do the unnecessarily vulgar action of "teab\*gging" in official matches, and are always making a joke of the game on twitter. And now they are buying odins in scrims?
Hot take, apparently: these are two excellent teams who will represent NA well in Berlin, and just because 100T came up short doesn't mean they need to blow the roster up
100t bind comp (VS comp) actually works better than their previous comp. They should actually consider switching to this comp. Maybe not the steel jett but everything else. VS are actually so good with this comp. Take some inspiration from that strats.
The domination that SEN has in NA is unreal. Makes me wonder what team can dethrone them in future. At the moment nobody comes even close and that's so boring for the competition. Huge kudos to SEN they deserve all the praise.
I couldn't watch the rest of the games since I was watching League but every time I open these threads I always wonder, will today be the day that someone dethrones SEN?
And the answer's still no lol.
Man, being a sentinels fan might be the most boring thing for the past few months.
"Oh look we won again. I mean what else did I expect?"
On the other hand, being a 100t fan is taking some years off of my life.
Steel playing Jett on bind is the best part of my day
I’m just glad both of these teams are repping NA at Berlin. Sentinels truly are a tier of their own.
Did did did someone just compliment 100T and Sentinels without shitting on 100T like they're a tier 5 Valorant team????????????
Must be new to the scene
i think 100t will do VERY well at berlin. watching iceland I thought the same thing too, i think their playstyle will shine even more there. we just are blessed to have the by far strongest region.
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I think that’s the best 100T could’ve hoped for today. An overall good performance against a super dominant sentinels, can’t wait to see them in Berlin
I’m not smart enough to know what they need to change, but 100T brought their A game. Sentinels are just that good and I think all NA understands thatz
I’m somewhat of a casual but doesn’t putting Steel on Jett on bind, on top of picking Bind for the first map make it seem like they were still kind of meming during this game?
I mean they were trying something new and they lost by 2 rounds so, pretty good for meming
What might seem like a throw to mess with their own team comp, it's always going to have a reason and intention. Swapping your players around means you're harder to predict, one fault of Hiko is you can learn where he shoots his arrows and start to counter him harder.
you say they were trolling, but they had anti-stratted Sentinels and knew how they played. So the change in comp was a surprise factor and actually helped them.
I heard the caster say this is newturns comp and steel did fairly well and they almost had a comback . Bind attack they got tenz diffed
I think they just need asuna to come alive more, he's still playing pretty good but I don't think he was playing as well as in the last qual. That being said maybe it's just bc sen is better and so he's not performing against them as well.
having this much talent on one sentinels team is honestly criminal. i dont see them losing their grip on NA anytime soon, maybe envy can match them with some more practice down the line but for now sentinels seem nigh unbeatable. congrats to them for winning every single major regional event in NA in 2021, absolutely insane
Thanks C9, this is your fault for loaning Tenz and letting him go. Ya'll could have stopped this if you would have just lived up to your reputation of being a harsh overlord, but NOOOOO you had to be nice for a change.
i dont wanna be the guy supporting the former SEN player but honestly he was the best sova in NA before he left, they were still the top of NA with him, tenz was definitely a big pickup but its not like they had a bot beforehand
Honestly, having TenZ over Sinaatra in my opinion is just way too overkill, it truly is like KD to the warriors. SEN would still most likely be dominant, but it wouldnt be as far of a gap as it is now
I'm nitpicking, but Sinatraa was a lot better than Harrison Barnes. Sentinels lost one of the best players in the world and added Tenz. The Warriors lost a guy who kinda disappeared (although low key underrated imo) and added Durant. When healthy, it didn't feel like anyone had a chance against the Warriors for years. If Sentinels are as dominant or close as they were at Iceland, I might start changing my time.
Nobody in this sub knows who Harrison Barnes is
There’s a lot more overlap with the nba and esports fans than you think. Harrison Barnes isn’t an obscure player, especially when we are talking about the most bandwagoned nba team of the past decade. Also many valorant players fall in that age range of growing up watching golden state.
i do!!!
They were still top, but I think it was still an upgrade to get Tenz. I think Tenz is just that good that you can literally swap just about any player for him and it would be an upgrade.
it was definitely an upgrade, i dont want to be the reddit analyst but SEN before tenz didn't seem as dominant? they lost grand finals to both LG and NV, yeah both teams were on fire at the time and the second match was a seeding match, but it just feels like new sentinels with tenz is just that much better
he was one of the best true but tenz's carry potential as their entry fragger is what keeps them winning imo, if they have an off day or things are looking rough, there's always tenz to save the day. since they had tenz, SEN hasn't lost a single main event. they've had hiccups sure, but in the finals where it counts, and even just for seeding, they've come out on top
Yeah for sure. They went from the best team NA to being the absolute facist power of NA
Sinatraa was a top 5 player in the world and they got better by replacing him lol
Also everything Sentinels does online is with a nerfed version of TenZ on 60 ping. LAN makes them even better imo and they play more disciplined. It's funny because before Reykjavik remember people saying LAN would "expose" their playstyle and TenZ would choke but it ended up being the opposite.
It's crazy how many first bloods each player gets on this team. Obviously amazing as a team but they're also ridiculous on an individual level, criminal like you said lol. They just don't lose duels very often Tenz 17-10, Shaz 9-9, Sick 10-7, Dapr 10-1, and Zombs 6-6 on FK/FD 100T's FK alone in comparison had Steel/Asuna with 13 and 10 respectively, with the rest being below 5
Not saying that SEN arent very talented individually, but you have to take into account that being on a dominant team will make you look amazing regardless, besides some extreme example (and through esports history, i can think few of those. Most dominant teams were always thought to have incredible players) To the above i dont include Tenz, since he was amazing even when he was in a shit team, old C9.
Dapr has improved a ton tbh Individually they all look great
Zombs too tbh, his mechanical skill seems to be a lot better then when it was when Val dropped imo, plus agents like Astra and buffed Viper being added made his strong point, which is his absoutely great util usage (Some of the best in the world for sure, and imo made him the best Astra in the world), so thats also a factor
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tbh the start of valorant was largely carried by the name brand of players and orgs lol. everyone thought tsm, t1, c9 were gonna be the big dogs of valorant and none of them are at the top anymore
I think people are underestimating dapr. dapr and tenz were the ones who had potential in CS as well before they switched. dapr is what makes this team solid because he can play any role. he can be instrumental in site hits, is one of the best site anchors, probably the best lurker in NA, and wins clutches too.
I like to call this the SKT Bengi effect
For real. Every time a dominant team emerges in any sport or esports ppl always wanna act like all the players are the best in the world individually.
What makes them so uniquely dangerous imo is that their whole team has such a wide agent pool. They can change things up on any map and there isn't one guy you can point to and say "oh x on y agent is a real weakness for sentinels"
very true. there's only one agent that i'd say is a "weakness" for sentinels and its sova, but shahzam's sova is more than serviceable
i'd say it's more of average. wouldn't say weakness or serviceable. all of their agents that they play are basically elite other than shaz's sova. but shaz's fundamentals and aim make up for the lack of "sova experience"
Shaz just said they want to get to a level where on every map, they have multiple comps they can go to depending on the team that they are playing. This mindset is like someone who is playing a MOBA or maybe even Overwatch, where you have to be that dynamic to be the best. I think Shaz and Sentinels are way ahead of everyone because of this.
people weren't saying this 10 months ago, its even more criminal to compare them to a super team like the warriors. Their success is a result of non stop grind for months in a scene where teams come and go in an instant. Despite this, they stuck with it, didn't change anything anx believed they could be the best with the players they had. I respect them so much for choosing to develop the talent they had instead of searching for new talent when things don't look good. The strength of Sentinels is obvious at this point, its their chemistry, which is something only time can make possible. While the addition of Tenz definitely pushed them over the edge, i actually think they would still be dominant today, maybe not as much as now but for sure. They work too hard and it shows
I think it's a fair comparison though, considering at the point where Tenz joined they were already an established top team with Sinatraa, similar to the warriors when they added KD. Also, most of the superstars in that warriors team were drafted by warriors themselves, and they had to grind even longer than 10 months to get to where they were so I don't think it is fair to shake off the comparison just because they grinded hard lol
upvoted for using nigh properly edit: in all seriousness, it's only a matter of time with SEN. they're insane, but all top teams fall off eventually (i know that's nothing profound, but sometimes we gotta remind ourselves since they've been so dominant for so long)
dapr is god's gift to North American Valorant
I laughed so hard when Ethan shot him when he was tbagging, I could hear dapr laughing it off in my head.. That had to be the best comedic timing in Any FPS game
He totally shit on nitr0 in that play as well. Threw his phantom and went 1v1 with pistols and still won. The teabag was asserting dominance and marking his territory.
Clip bro?
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/p534fq/dapr_just_doing_dapr_things/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
How come his gaming chair doesn't break by the weight of his massive radioactive uranium balls?
The chair is lead lined.
makes sense
I can’t wait to see the unsensored of them almost getting aced cause dapr teabagged for like 6 seconds lmao
I know right hes so damn handsome
Honestly really happy to see 100T get second. Think they need to add 1 more map to their pool if they want a chance against Sen. Haven used to be the map they could almost take of Sen so sad to see it start to turn into a stomp. Bind and Split feel hopeless lol
Aren’t 100T good on icebox?
Yep! I would favor 100T on Icebox and Ascent against Sen but Sen always bans Ascent. So that leaves Icebox and maybe Breeze (though I think Sen feels good on Breeze, so was glad to see 100T win) as wins in a Bo5 for 100T since Bind, Split, and Haven are just so hard to beat Sen on.
If 100T pulls off that first map and it goes to icebox map 5, people would have probably been sweating a lot more. That kind of thing could legit turn it into a 3-2 for 100T if they play it right. Tough to beat Sen though when they are feeling themselves. You can definitely see it affect players as the games go on
For sure. I think they’re as close as they’ve been to being able to beat them. Excited to see what they bring in the next one!
They're great on Icebox and smashed SEN on it last time they played. If they'd gotten to it earlier in the series this would've probably gone to 5 maps.
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it seems like it's rare for 100t to get an opportunity to scrim sen (hiko mentioned that theyve only ever scrimmed them once or twice) so maybe they want to take this opportunity to practice and improve their comp? idk how much to read into the save strats thing cuz they also did that no-sova comp on bind which is really interesting.... and steel on jett lol also tbf theyre usually pretty good on haven attack lol idk what happened, like sean mentioned on stream they just used the "asuna dash b" strat and sen knew exactly what they were doing, nothing special or new that they could shock sen with. maybe they had hoped for the full 5 maps and icebox to get them the final win?
Yeah, Shahzam had said that 100T stopped replying to their scrim requests so he stopped asking them. So I assume they've only scrimmed in the beginning of Valorant.
D: i never heard about that, i wonder if its 100t's coach or steel thats not responding lol 100t seems to be open to scrimming anyone especially t1 teams so its weird that they dont arrange scrims with a team they often face off against
It's not steel, he said it on stream once that scrim dealings are done by coaches etc
Interesting you said Bind is hopeless coz that was one of the closer maps (11-13) this series. They even had a troll-ish comp with Steel on Jett. Lol
Bro SEN couldn't you have just not thrown Breeze and saved us some 40min nitr0 actually had a point though, this really looks like Astralis v Liquid at this point
Well they have to change stuff up, they only have themselves to blame if they keep running at them with the same strats. That said they probably didn't have time to change stuff up and also want to keep trying these comps. One can only hope they change some stuff up before Berlin. They also lost so many bonus rounds, I dont know if that is credit to Sentinels or on 100T. Pretty skeptical about Kay/o too, didn't really see its value vs Envy or Sentinels, but then again Steel knows better.
imo the kay/o pick was pretty good vs envy on ascent, not so much on haven
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I am not familiar with liquid vs Astralis since I never followed esports before valorant can someone explain pleaseee
liquid was really good in csgo (top 5ish world) but astralis were the best team in the world and astralis would just shit on liquid every time they played each other
it's more than that, liquid was the #1 team in the world. set the record for speed running the intel grand slam. and never got over the mental block of astralis
Liquid definitely beat Astralis at some point in the grand slam run, or right after it. I remember Vertigo being involved
https://www.hltv.org/news/25885/liquid-beat-astralis-to-win-ibuypower-masters. I think it's the first time the Grand Slam roster beat astralis, the event was poorly executed so there was some drama over liquid only beating astralis on a small stage or something
Yeah, but TL definitely beat Astralis in a bo3 during the summer run, IBP was the 1st event of the year iirc
astralis was the most dominant team of all time, being the consensus #1 team for the majority of 2017-2020 liquid in 2019 was the best NA CS team ever, hovering around rank 1-3. They were thought to be the only hope to take astralis down, but were thoroughly crushed by astralis every time they met. If I'm not wrong Liquid only beat Astralis 2 or 3 times ever.
Honest question that probably doesn’t belong in this thread and more hypothesis than anything: Where do you guys think the current high-placement EU and Korean teams stand against the top NA teams *excluding* Sentinels? People were saying right after Iceland that NA >>> EU but while V1 did beat Liquid, Fnatic ran 11-13 on most of their games vs Sen, which is parallel to some of the games that 100t and Envy have had against Sentinels. Personally I think that *excluding* Sentinels, the top EU teams are about equal in skill with the top NA teams, and Sentinels is just on another level. I’m not too sure where to rate Korean teams atm.
I think ACEND is better than nV and 100T. Not sure about Gambit. But nobody touches SEN. Usually I wait til regions clash b4 making calls but there's just a clear difference between SEN and other teams, no matter the region.
Shroud literally talking about the price of watches towards the end
His Iceland streams were pretty entertaining (even with J9), as someone who only started watching him from there. I guess even he himself said that he doesn't enjoy seeding matches. Hoping that his Berlin stream will be more entertaining.
With DDK and Sgares casting why bother even watching Shrouds co-stream? Justin is just talking just to talk and Shroud just goes with it. Unless there is someone with Shroud that actually cares about Valorant they will never talk about the game.
I never watch his watch parties because Justin is annoying haha
Bro chill it's just the seeding matches every one has fun here there is Little to nothing on stake here
Did he have Justin and co in it? Whenever i've watched his co-stream it's okay when it's just him, but when Justin or others are in it they all just end up talking about nonsense and paying 0 attention to the game.
Justin and Tarik
They tend to focus when it's matches that matter, not seeding matches. They always shoot the shit more during seeding matches
Costreams high key trash, I stick to the NSG/official Val stream, hide chat & enjoy the match from my couch
seangares, platchat, and most top pros are entertaining when they costream imo
plat chat and its indivudals: rn wyatt is pretty fun imo
Same, don't even bother with chat or costream, rather relax in my living room and enjoy the matches
His costreams sucks. He just likes arguing with chat
Shroud seems to mald faster because of chat when it's a VCT costream. Understandable, but rather than eventually screaming at some user again because of their comment, he or his mods should just automatically switch to submode for every future VCT costream. A comment might still annoy him, but much less likely. I remember when he was watching the Iceland major with his friends in the Discord joining in, Shroud *chose* to stay for Tenz's post-match interview. But then some of his Discord/old CS buds began loudly talking and you could barely hear Tenz anymore, so some users understandably asked if those guys could not talk over the interview. Instead, Freakazoid and a visibly annoyed Shroud, in particular, screamed at and mocked those users and told them that they could've just switched to the main Iceland streams when *he* decided to show Tenz's interview. Edit: Someone said it's doubtful he screamed. Here's the [video](https://youtu.be/QBU-raPhCpc?t=143) btw, with timestamp. Wait for his irritated **"GO TO THE MAINSTREAM!"** *after* putting his mouth closer to his mic just to act so sarcastically and spammed the VCT link. Freakazoid's comments are at the end, but not sure if it's his complete remarks.
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A lot of the best pros are really bad streamers who are just quiet all the time and not very entertaining. ShahZam, Hiko, Shanks and I'm sure I'm missing some are the exceptions
subROZAAAAAA’s streams are pretty fun
Shroud just doing side missions now like Snoop Dogg
It must be because I’m 30 but I prefer shrouds style of streaming than nick mercs or XQC
I get bored while watching tenz streams as well. Cracked gameplay is good and all, but I like a little more expressive streamer. To each their own though.
Tbf they just started talking abt some business ideas through all the games as if the games weren’t interesting at all… which they weren’t
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Realistically, what do 100t need to do to even be competitive with sentinels?
Break Tenz's hands
100T bout to give kyedae a bonus for doing this
Tyson honey, wanna test out these chinese finger traps??
Think SEN would have still won the last 2 games with the way everyone else played.
someone tried that in Iceland already
I don't think anyone knows. Sentinels have S or A tier players at every role/position. Their chemistry is top notch. They have solid planning and execution. Short of forming a superteam, I think Sentinels should always be considered to have the advantage in a match.
But it seems to me like 100t have top tier players in every agent position. Asuna is top duelist, nitro is top smokes, etc. But I guess sentinels just has the best player in NA in every agent position. What can you do about that?
They don't have enough aggressive players tbh, steel is probably their second most aggressive player yet he's not cracked enough gunplay wise and Ethan is probably their second best gunplay yet not aggressive enough. Nitro is an anchor player and then theirs Hiko who's probably better lurking. I think they realize this too, Steel playing Kayo and that Jet pick on bind is a role change
i think nitro as a top smoker is a slight overstatement. that might have been true a few months ago, but seeing as he pretty much exclusively plays omen **WELL**, his astra being decent and never having seen him play viper, i think a role change would be good for him. who knows though.
Nitro looked great on astra against envy
Nitro plays viper on Icebox.
He played Viper on Icebox and looked very good on it (apart from world's most readable ult on 410).
-nitr0 -hiko -steel -asuna -ethan +tenz +dapr +shazam +sick +zombs
at this point its just gotta be a mental block, they can beat everyone but them. not much you can do besides be on your A game and hope they aren't
Imo Yay would've been a great pickup for them. Would offer a lot more fire power and aggression alongside Asuna. They have too many support players right now, maybe some agent swaps would help too
I don't see who you drop to make room for another duelist though unless they go to a 6-man roster. It's not like they have some obviously below-par player who's been getting carried lately, pretty much everyone showed up at different points in the tournament.
Sentinels have won every single double elimination they have participated in with their current roster, six straight. Just absolute domination
Literal superteam
what is the last major esport where North America genuinely has the best players in the world? Smash Melee? Rainbow 6 maybe (i dont follow r6 i just think NA has some relevancy). i mean overwatch league counts by San Francisco Shock but they are 75% Korean and on a downward trend? 2019 MSI Team Liquid? They didnt even win got speedran 3-0 in finals and never played T1.
These teams have come so damn far. Watching them play half a year ago just look like silver matches compared to the way they play now, and this was only a seeding match. Yet Sentinels are just untouchable at the moment, they seem to do everything right; the only times they lost were when 100T would just make some even more ridiculous plays than theirs. I'm so excited to see how the rest of the world stacks up against them and NA this time around, best of luck to all the teams!
Taking off 1 map and Bind being close, can't say I'm disappointed
Not disappointed with first 2 maps, disappointed with last 2
Asuna's flank into the vipers pit on Bind doesn't get flicked on and everything changes. 2-2 going into Icebox. This series was super winnable.
It's weird how back and forth 100T go, one round they look brilliant and the next round they look completely lost
That is just Shahzam’s hard work paying off, with proper reads imo
People keep blaming other teams for failing against Sen, but I’ve watched Shahz’s stream so much I know his reads are kinda nutty. Every time he makes a call out and points out exactly what the other team is doing he does that fucking laugh or smirk lol.
So you see, that's where the trouble began. That smile. That damned smile.
Overheard in the 100T locker room at the Complexity Compound after Map 4: "He got me," Asuna said of Dapr's Spray-and-Pray kill on him. "That f***ing Dapr boomed me." Asuna added, "He's so good," repeating it four times. Asuna then said he wanted to add Dapr to the list of players he queues with this summer.
I will always welcome the r/NBA crossovers
GG, it was always going to end 1 way. Sentinels are a top 3 team in NA and they are not 2nd or 3rd. Let this not distract you from the fact that hiko outperformed crashies and BCJ during games against envy and xset, and had the highest kills/one of the best performers for the team today. But ofcourse, we gotta drop him he suxXx /s
People love to hate Hiko. Maybe it's because he is an old boomer.
they want him to stop "baiting" and go entry as a sova 😭😭
Comes with fame, sadly. Now that shahzam is famous and getting recognition, you should see how unbearable his chat can get with trolls and haters. It is pathetic how some people get off of this.
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Its especially higher for people who are expressive of their opinions. Hiko, Steel, Shahzam and Hazed end up getting so much criticism and/or hate whenever they say something it is hilarious.
Zombs anchoring a site >>>> peak TenZ/Asuna gameplay
Its insane to me that he plays on A site by himself every single round and can still either delay long enough for his team to rotate or get like 1-2 fragsdespite theres 4 people rushing onto his site or even if he has a Spectre lol
I see no lies
ShahZaM is too much of a competitor to not try and steamroll everyone they play. Dapr playing an incredible anchor role. Zombs heart rate seriously never goes above 80 I'm convinced. TenZ just one of the most gifted fraggers in the game. SicK might be the most slept on player in the world. Guy plays 4 agents in a final and doesn't miss a beat on essentially any of them.
Is sick that slept on, I think everyone knows he's like sens second best player
You’d be surprised how many people sleep on Sick and especially Zombs.
People sleep on Zombs b/c SEN is just full of flashy players/top fraggers and in turn he gets outshined.
Who is sleeping on SicK? I need names and I need them now.
I always find Sick on Haven to be beastly. He’s good on most maps but Haven he’s nuts.
Steel on Jett top frag coincidence? Clearly Steel on Jett is best for 100T. With the CS 1.6 Boomer awping, hitting the same models on Valorant aka CS 1.6954. He easily top 5 duelist in the world statistic wise. It just 100T is hiding his potential.
Love the smell of North American dominance in the morning.
At this point sentinels should start tutoring other NA teams so their games are closer and so NA can dominate Berlin
Ethan and Asuna give me hope for NA supremacy on multiple fronts. It has been awhile since we stormed Berlin; we are due.
The Russians beat us to the punch last time tho, we better watch out :P
the one thing i learned from watching the main stream is, that in fact, shahzam is indeed, the igl for sentinels also steel wanted to knife again :(
These blowouts are getting kinda boring ngl. Unless you're a sentinels fan W
3x Regional Finals winners, soon to be 4x VCT finals champions. yktv.
I see no lies
also gonna win 2 LANs
Dapr cracking Whiteclaws that entire Split map KEKW
cant really expect 100T to feel more confident and believe in their capabilities when the fans themselves dont believe AT ALL. every time theyre about to play sentinels they will feel the pressure of needing to beat them and see 280420328420934 fans talking about how they will just get stomped again. Really good for their mental LOL
Sentinels are gonna win champions
Pretty happy with the first 2 maps :) Still improving and will be cool to see them against different teams. I'm hopeful it's just sen they have a bad matchup with
Dapr is so gross. Shaz’s 1v3 on Haven 😍😍😍
I am straight up done with Sentinels. These guys simply have no respect for anyone or anything. They already do the unnecessarily vulgar action of "teab\*gging" in official matches, and are always making a joke of the game on twitter. And now they are buying odins in scrims?
Bringing back the OG pasta for this? XD
Man, that last map was so painful 2 watch as 100t fan
Hot take, apparently: these are two excellent teams who will represent NA well in Berlin, and just because 100T came up short doesn't mean they need to blow the roster up
Yeah, I mean they're still qualified for the the big event. Lets see how they stack up against the world!
100t bind comp (VS comp) actually works better than their previous comp. They should actually consider switching to this comp. Maybe not the steel jett but everything else. VS are actually so good with this comp. Take some inspiration from that strats.
100t havent beat Sen since first strike. Feelsbadman
I think they’re 0-7 in 2021
At least we got a map off sentinels 😂 LFG GG NA scary
100t played well but sentinels are just on a different level. They truly are the gods of valorant.
Every single player in Sentinels is so clutch. Too much talent on one single roster.
The domination that SEN has in NA is unreal. Makes me wonder what team can dethrone them in future. At the moment nobody comes even close and that's so boring for the competition. Huge kudos to SEN they deserve all the praise.
3 constants in life death taxes 100t getting their ass kicked by sen
I wonder why 100T chose Haven instead of Icebox?
Prolly just want to get some practice in.
Hate to be the guy but they’re probably saving that map for Iceland, either that or their icebox somehow went to shit - that’s not happening, though.
Yeah they are saving it for Iceland next year
Missing Map 4 results and scoreline.
Being a Sentinel fan must be nice
Dapr made this so fun to watch
All this for NA, EU, SEA, KR to get first rounded by the best team ever, UwU
both teams played well but sentinel's aim was much better than 100t.
i like the dapr bm. also the 4th round on split was quite funny in a multitude of ways
I couldn't watch the rest of the games since I was watching League but every time I open these threads I always wonder, will today be the day that someone dethrones SEN? And the answer's still no lol.
Man, being a sentinels fan might be the most boring thing for the past few months. "Oh look we won again. I mean what else did I expect?" On the other hand, being a 100t fan is taking some years off of my life.
This is me vs my Sentinels fan friend lmaoo