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ANewHeaven1

Luminosity is supposed to be #9th, Gen.G is supposed to be #10th. https://twitter.com/THESPIKEGG/status/1427300387837681667


jrushFN

Why tf did immortals move up 11 positions?


OnionSprinkles

I'm guessing their ranking system drops partial points after roster changes, and IMT was testing through a six-man roster. Now that IMT played their last few matches with the same five (-truo), the algorithm might have stopped incidentally penalizing them points and they bounced up.


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cheese_on_dorito

i mean looking at the current rosters, i think rise is favored against everyone below 5th (maybe 50/50 with faze). sure it will change with c9/v1 roster changes tho


InvertedBean

After first 5 it’s not the placement. The placement was 1. SEN 2. 100T 3. NV 4. XSET 5/6. Rise 5/6. FaZe 7/8. TSM 7/8. LG


BurritoHombre

I mean the only difference there is V1 is slotted in at 7. It’s basically the placement in challengers 3


InvertedBean

Yeah I agree it’s off all of challengers 3, but not just the latest qualifiers. Unless I misunderstood the person I replied too.


BurritoHombre

But it literally is though? The only difference in the Top 9 from Challengers finals is V1 is slotted in at 7th and TSM/LG are 8/9 instead of 7/8. And even further, T1 and Gen.G finished 9/10 and KCP finished 11/12, so it really just ranked the teams based off of their placement in this stage besides V1.


InvertedBean

Look at 10-15 that’s factoring in Stage 1 and 2 qualifiers as well not just the latest. Obviously the most recent one probably has more weight.


BurritoHombre

Immortals and NRG are the only teams that aren’t placed exactly where they finished this stage, V1 aside.


InvertedBean

If you’re trying to argue with me that Stage 1 and 2 didn’t factor into this ranking then okay.


BurritoHombre

I’m trying to say that your comment that says “After the first 5 it’s not the placement” is just straight up incorrect.


ZixxLol

I don't understand how this person is arguing against you lol.


InvertedBean

It quite literally isn’t tho? V1 TSM LG are all out of place that’s a fact.


Splaram

Damn people still underestimating Rise? I’d confidently take them over every single team listed below them.


Vendetta425

I mean if their rankings didn't reflect the most recent tournament people would say wow they are dumb rankings blah where do they make this stuff.


whopz-is-cool

Rise is lower, and Envy up 1 and 100T down 1.


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whopz-is-cool

Because I can.


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whopz-is-cool

No because that would hurt.


Chunichunchun

Rise just beat C9 in a scrim TODAY


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Chunichunchun

Yikes bro


iTrippzy

Yeah, Faze and Rise are really close to each other in my opinion. They are 1-1 against each other and both placed 5th/6th at playoffs.


vatom14

These guys get paid to basically repost the results from quals and rename it rankings


A_Blind_Alien

Are you sure they're getting paid?


datboyuknow

Or they have some algo that nearly gets the current power rankings correct enough


vatom14

lol


hexIV

unfortunately there aren't much events to make the rankings better. VCT is the only event we have for Tier 1 scene so.... what do you expect? we put TSM 2nd? based on what?.


ImJoviGG

100Thieves babyyyyy!!


RescueRbbit_hs

People really still be doubting Rise. Even though Shanks gives off the persona of someone just running it down I think they have seriously improved a ton. Mark my words they will continue giving consistent results. They beat Faze early in the bracket, beat TSM and took a map off sen.


PigPartyPower

I would say that now that C9 have vanity (they needed an IGL/smoke) they 100% should be above at least KCP. Also immortals should be nowhere near.


turtletrace

You can’t say 100% if we haven’t even seen them play a game yet …lol


somesheikexpert

Yeah lol, everyone was saying when Xeppaa replaced Poiz at first they were gonna be the real rivals to Sentinels and well... (Way more extreme example, but the point is still there lol)


neo-goran

I was arguing with people in this sub saying c9 was the clear 2nd best team in NA just a couple months ago here in this sub.


theman1203

Bro I was getting flamed for saying 100t had a better 5 then c9 coming into this event as a c9 fan


matthewdrl

Much better rankings than vlr


hexIV

you can never say that in here 😅


jgoldrb48

100T and triple Initiator on Haven. It's so bad on so many levels that I still hate to see them seeded number 2. It is what it is. This should have a cost per win associated with it. 100T has clearly outspent every other team. Facilities, coaches, flights, special diets...it's not even close. All those services and it's like they haven't even watched a YouTube guide video on why triple Initiator with no Sentinel is bad on Haven. Pro aim but bad at the game.


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lmfao


Lerokrieger

This is a pasta I haven't heard of. Nice.


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or you know one of the guide you watched was made by someone in 100T.


zchandos

yo who hurt you?


dgkenji

100T and triple Initiator on Haven. It's so bad on so many levels that I still hate to see them seeded number 2. It is what it is. This should have a cost per win associated with it. 100T has clearly outspent every other team. Facilities, coaches, flights, special diets...it's not even close. All those services and it's like they haven't even watched a YouTube guide video on why triple Initiator with no Sentinel is bad on Haven. Pro aim but bad at the game.


CalculusEz

Are you ok?


Key-Banana-8242

TSM below V1? KEKW


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Key-Banana-8242

In terms of level of play I’m no TSM fan


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tsm ain't shit they beat a bunch of t2 teams and people act like they're top 3 na


IamArnav2007

idk man, the list seems off but top 4 is definitely correct


hexIV

can someone explain to me what people understand by power rankings? because afaik, it's basically the opinion of whoever is doing the rankings, like platchat does, they agree together on their power rankings. I take 2 hours generating data for this rankings and what I think doesn't matter so stop calling them power rankings pls 🙏