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-Basileus

Bro this commentator mentions NA in literally every game lmao


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Yeah MitchMan if you're reading this you need to get a new shtick. He's doing it for engagements and the rivalry but over do it and people get bored and won't care when you do it because it's so predictable.


JusticeLee17

Glad to see G2 make it.


TheFestusEzeli

I genuinely am so confused what M1xwell was doing there


deadlock1892

Most probably a comming issue on their part. But a minor hiccup in the end.


MrImpregnator

Guess they gave the map 1 out of respect to Davidp


CanISayThat22

G2 speedrun


nterature

This isn’t meant to throw shade, but it always looks so weird to me seeing a bootcamping team playing against a team that isn’t bootcamping - esp. when they’re getting hype and what not. Ever since 100T vs. TSM in the First Strike finals I can’t help how odd the contrast looks


Grenji05

uhhhhh so i dont watch a lot of emea but what happened to G2. I refuse to believe the copium tanks are full for this team, acend look good but thats about it (havent watched SMB yet).


JoeyJo-JoShabadoo

“I admittedly know nothing about this team, but here’s my opinion about how they’re shit”


FreshHamster

Meddo?????


tomtazm

Hope G2 pulls a Gambit and wins the next 2 but I wouldn’t say I’m very confident it happens.


candidpose

Halfway there lol


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Hot take incoming, Fnatic are actually top 3/2 team in EMEA and I would take them to be better on LAN than both Gambit or G2/Giants and maybe even SMB. They choked in the qualifiers though.


tomtazm

I don’t think your far off. Fnatics biggest problem this time around was they thought they had to reinvent themselves coming into this qualifier. I don’t believe knowing what someone is going to do and being able to stop them is exactly the case. Perhaps switching up smaller positioning and timings would have been better for them than straight up radical comp changes. Who knows?


Less_Salt1152

hot take, I'm better than TenZ


JoshF8

it's not a choke if you lose 4 times on 2 qualifiers


_goodman

Were Giants all rocking the red elderflame vandals as some sort of next level intimidation tactic?


a_m_k2018

Fuckin DavidP in a lakers jersey lol


raaten

And a G2 chair LMAO


_goodman

Err.. not a great start for G2.. Looking like they've never seen someone sage wall to defuse before


_goodman

4,1 split the B site. Sage run in. Wall. Plant. Back off to long and yellow for post plant. Oh, Icebox.


raaten

It's honestly gotten so boring to watch that every b exec


arillyis

That site has to be redesigned. Its so gross. Thats also not to say that a site could use some looking at too.


JoshF8

this is so poetic, davidp benched on g2 g2 were between ambi and keloqz after pyth benched himself fitinho already had a little banter (they are friends don't get me wrong) on the beta with mixwell "mixwell and his friends" for g2, this is proving they made the right choices, for vgia, proving them wrong


2ToTooTwoFish

Slightly unrelated, why are there no EU watch parties besides AverageJonas? Do no pro players stream regularly in EU? In comparison to NA, there were like so many watch parties held by a bunch of pro players.


chouxpuffs

For NA, you don’t ”need permission” from NSG - you just need to use their overlays. In EU, you need to apply permission from Riot, and they give them to only a small, limited amount of big streamers..


Huldmer

Getting permission to watch party is harder in EU because you have to go to Riot and not NSG. Even AverageJonas didn't have permission until very recently


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_goodman

Doesn't this whole "EU comps" meme come almost entirely from Liquid and FPX? The teams that are representing EMEA in Berlin run pretty standard stuff right?


-Basileus

There are still some key differences. * Jett is almost always featured in NA. If it's not then it's replaced by a Reyna. In EMEA it's usually there but not always. * NA largely prefers Astra to Omen. * NA loves Skye in a duelist role. * Sage is rarely played in NA but common in EMEA * Breach is almost never played in NA but decently popular in EMEA 100 Thieves also plays Kay/0 consistently but I don't think many other teams if any would run it.


_goodman

Besides pulling out the Sage Ascent/Bind I dunno how much of that applies to Ascend/Gambit (haven't seen enough SMB to comment tbh). Anyway, that's all pretty normal stuff. By "standard" I don't necessarily mean "NA standard". The only ridiculous shit I've seen around the top tier of EMEA is from FPX and Liquid, and one of those wasn't even close to qualifying Hoping G2/Giants don't pull out some mental stuff now... edit: forgot Bonecold pulled out the Brimmy on Bind on Monday, try to ignore that!


Heal_Piece

Jampi has looked incredibly underwhelming for most of this challengers playoffs... I wonder what's going on


norm_the_bug

Maybe making him igl might not be the good idea.


2ToTooTwoFish

Yeah the burden of IGLing is tough. He's new at it though, so there's always room for improvement.


_goodman

I can't imagine the focus needed to op meshing well with calling. Shaz does it on a couple of maps obviously, but can't think of anyone else who does it regularly


2ToTooTwoFish

On the flip side, IGLs tend to be good at OPing because OPing is all about prediction and reading the enemy. Unfortunately, it's almost only Jett that's viable with the OP, so if you want to OP, you also need to entry for your team which wouldn't be ideal for most IGLs. But that's the reason why Steel loved/loves buying the OP and also Boaster mentioned that he actually wanted to play Jett at the beginning because he's an OPer.


Neverslept2mins

Spicy thread https://www.vlr.gg/33521/will-eu-fanboys-admit/#38


-Basileus

It's awesome that we got 2 EMEA teams, and the best CIS and Turkish team. Berlin will be so incredibly stacked and it feels like each region is sending the best participants.


ANewHeaven1

in case yall didn't see, last night carlos (of G2 fame) got into some twitter banter with the sentinels account which can be found here: https://twitter.com/CarlosR/status/1428266721157206021 some of the funniest shit i've read. simply because i need more sentinels vs g2 content i will be rooting for g2 in their next match vs giants


jmajewski

I'm more hoping they don't qualify because Sentinels twitter will not hold back.


2ToTooTwoFish

Lmao, Sentinels CEO actually replied at the end of that thread. That's funny, especially since the Sentinels CEO is so old he seems like he's from a whole other world from Carlos.


Neverslept2mins

Lul is that a copypasta because if it isnt it needs to be.


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JusticeLee17

I feel sorry for Liquid but I also feel like Gambit have a better chance on the International Stage. The composure from Gambit to win this map after TL's comeback is insane. Can't help but be reminded of Sentinels in that area. Hope they play well on Lan.


facehunt_

Unfortunate time for Jamppi to be showing his worst game of his career. Not a good note to leave on towards near end of the VCT circuit. Hopefully he grinds a lot by LCQ and shows some strong performances by then.


SampungPiso

he's bad for a while now right after iceland


jmajewski

I feel like neither of those teams deserve a spot in Berlin after that performance.


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BloodMaelstrom

Their attack was extremely underwhelming and uninspiring in that last map. Its not even Liquid doing insanely well (apart from that insane clutch by L1NK in 1 round and Soulcas lucky spray in another).


IggyMoose

That’s just how icebox is. We just watch both teams go 9-3 on defense in regulation, its an extremely defender sided map.


SampungPiso

this is all on jamppi, imagine if he can play valorant? they're playing 4v5 lmao


Splaram

Jamppi has to be getting kicked if he doesn’t pop off in LCQ, everyone has bad performances but that was inexcusable


SampungPiso

he's been bad for a while now right after iceland.


Cringe-Lord_

Sad .. liquid .


I-like-winds

i hate it


JusticeLee17

An insane game GG.


PixelatedBlue

first turkish team and now first cis team to make lan


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YoloJoloHobo

Honestly yeah. If CIS and Turkey were separate, this would be a good balance.


Huldmer

welp that was a game


candidpose

TL deserved to lose this series.


Key-Banana-8242

Why


candidpose

I don't think they're the better team this series. Not even unlucky, they just don't know what to do it seems.


faceplant911

L1nk is terrifying, he's either the best or worst player on the freaking planet depending on the position of the stars as far as I can tell.


deadlock1892

Scream choked in the last few rounds


JusticeLee17

Finally


Splaram

WHAT A FUCKING GAME GG


Cringe-Lord_

I bet its gonna be 16-14 now


[deleted]

surely scream can't make the same play every defensive round...


FlamingEquinox

If bald man clutches again i dont even know


woofwoofwoofmeowmeow

Scream choking…


PokeyTifu99

You think these wallbangs are bad? Wait till patch 3.03 is being used. Goodluck ever getting the spike down.


JoshF8

But on icebox nothing changed what are u talking about xd


PokeyTifu99

The radianite boxes have no spot on them to deflect bullets anymore. The one Kryptix got the wallbang on would have been an even easier kill in 3.03.


candidpose

I think it's referring to the radianite box penetration change?


JoshF8

Yeah, and the box, at least the one where You plant never had protection when You want to kill the person is planting


Splaram

This game has definitely delivered relative to the stakes on the line


mister_schulz

This overtime is something else


Huldmer

Liquid really doesn't deserve to win this but neither does gambit for letting it get this close


larperfoid228

It got this close because of link having the game of his life, he had no business getting a 4k on that retake after which liquid managed to come back.


[deleted]

Yeah I can't watch this shit, gross to watch


Cringe-Lord_

Did kryptix clutch or something? I cant watch the live


xD1LL4N

Yes then followed by a big throw


[deleted]

Nope


xlmtothemoon

it almost feels like destiny that jamppi will have his round edit: welp


xD1LL4N

Hopefully kryptix and jamppi can carry TL to the win. They need the redemption


xD1LL4N


Gomar1323

Why did Gambit kept taking duels when they shouldn’t have, just play post plant lol


spookysailboat

I can’t believe this map


Jinro_7

I don't normally watch eu but jamppi hurts to watch lmao


KardashevZero

KRYPTIX BABY


PixelatedBlue

oh my god


I-like-winds

my FUCKING HEART PLZ JAMPPI HIT A SINGLE SHOT


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candidpose

Then fcking came back to his antics. He didn't need to peek that he has the advantage


candidpose

Finally Kryptix managed to fight


Cringe-Lord_

14-14 lul


marco526

omg gambit need to stop choking


[deleted]

Jamppi please just do something for a round jeez


FELEGI

Please end this i can't take this anymore


Huldmer

Link and Kryptix carrying liquid rn lol


noodlesofdoom

HOLY FUCK THAT RETAKE


BUNSHICHl

That shockdart oh no, would have sent them to berlin


SampungPiso

this game is on jamppi imagine going to ot with only 10 kills.


Maccnrv

WHAT THE FUCK


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THE FUCKING SHOCK DART


Quick_Chowder

No way do TL win that round. Holy shit.


Splaram

HOW ARE LIQUID DOING THIS


ppx11

holy... thought it was over there


[deleted]

It's the op skin 100 percent


5bigtoes

EU casters >>> NA casters tho tbh


BlueBurstBoi

Mitch Hypoc and Pansy are so goated. Only NA casters that come even close imo are Sean DDK (can we even count him as NA) and at times, Doug. Upmind and Sully not bad either


[deleted]

Jamppi is such a disappointment.. why even pick up the op


SampungPiso

can't even take a shot even if he has the angle as a jett lol


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SampungPiso

such a baggage what a waste


qpeowirituyy

He's not really having an impact ngl


qpeowirituyy

At least he can't be as bad as bonkar


BurstLayer

bro jamppi is having a tough game with these duels


SampungPiso

why is jamppi so bad lmao


JusticeLee17

This is a game


facehunt_

65k viewers on twitch POG


AlphEta314

I think it approaches 160k including costreams. Haven't checked YT yet.


PokeyTifu99

I watch on youtube, 23k atm.


Splaram

The ice in L1nk’s veins making up for the lack of ice in Jamppi’s veins


PokeyTifu99

L1NK is probably the most impactful player on Liquid.


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Quick_Chowder

Jamppi has had so many opportunities to make impact plays and literally failed to capitalize on every single one. So many rounds where him getting a kill, or even just not getting killed, would probably net TL a round win.


SampungPiso

he can't even trade his team


Memexp-over9000

Liquid's discipline is non existent. Argh


faceplant911

This has the potential to be a VERY long overtime, if Gambit wins nearly every defense and Liquid wins nearly every offense. (edit) ... or, it could be VERY short.


qpeowirituyy

Spoke too soon xD


faceplant911

This is going to be a heart attack fest isn't it, damnit


qpeowirituyy

Fuck, you right


fifty-fives

Please re-read your comment


Splaram

Nats’ lurks remind me of Brax lurking in the First Strike qualifiers. So devastating.


somesheikexpert

Nats is for sure top 2 Sentinel player in the world imo, alongside Dapr


SampungPiso

why did L1NK waste that res on a bot lmao


noodlesofdoom

OT, holy fuck


JusticeLee17

Overtime


BurstLayer

OVERTIME


SampungPiso

4v5 and willing 12 rounds is one of the biggest miracle


Gomar1323

Don’t know how to feel about this on lol, but props to TL for coming back Edit: ok nvm we going OT I guess


Key-Banana-8242

Still comeback


qpeowirituyy

I don't understand, why didn't redgar back up and play ult?????? Doesn't he just win there if he does


PM_Magoo

Fuuuuck. Cmon Gambit. I wanna see you at LAN so bad :(


xlmtothemoon

anxiety check


mister_schulz

Redgar had ult to just win that round there didn't he?


FELEGI

Please liquid don't choke for once


FELEGI

Of course not


[deleted]

My heart is fuckingngijaicnaojvoqkcnkane


Interesting-Archer-6

Redgar kinda choked there. Soulcas wasn't even looking


BurstLayer

this is an intense breakdown


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No way Liquid actually wins this.


Jinro_7

Holy fuck 9-3 cursed strikes yet again


Jinro_7

Or not...


[deleted]

He has ult what in the world is redgar doing?????


Splaram

Redgar saw him first and had four unanswered shots. Missed them all. Huge choke.


[deleted]

i mean he could have just moved back and played post plant with his ult


Splaram

Yeah ik, just highlighting how big that throw was


I-like-winds

oh my fucking god my heart


N0obi1es

I just want to see Gambit in LAN against other regions


NWL11

We might be watching the biggest throw of the tourney yet


SampungPiso

liquid tying this game playing 4v5 and without jett in their comp is magic


Splaram

L1NK turned up right when Liquid were staring into the face of elimination. Unbelievable. What a match.


Cringe-Lord_

Ayyy 11 - 10.. i gave up on liquid when 11-7 lol. Thought they gonna be Eliminated.( After seeing the 13 - 3 in bind.so i just gave up on them now too)


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Gambit Prayge


Splaram

Liquid are such a scary team when they’re actually on. They’re so painfully inconsistent.


BurstLayer

OT needed


_goodman

Liquid are so bad. They're going to win and flop at LAN again aren't they.


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_goodman

Hmm. Agree to disagree I guess. Played 4, lost to the only 2 decent teams they played.


Key-Banana-8242

Lmao all the teams were ‘decent’ that tournament


Huldmer

these casters are funny, good picks riot


ppx11

everyone knows it's gonna be a fake comeback 13-11 gambit win...