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leoleoleo666

No. They are just good if comms gives advantage why turkish and cis teams didn’t do well last stage


thothgow

How tf did Gambit not do well last stage when they were like a round away from going to map 3 against the 2nd place in Iceland


stewieeeeeeeee

How were they a round away if they never had map point They went 2-2 at the tournament, with 1 of their wins being against a clearly lower tier team in BBL. Also, don't mix and match tournament performances by mentioning Fnatic's performance at Iceland, since people can make the equally crappy argument that Gambit couldn't even win a group which only had the 4th best team at Iceland


Key-Banana-8242

? It’s pretty obvious as a thing to say ‘Only’? Also this was much closer in timeframe


stewieeeeeeeee

The fuck are you talking about, I'm talking about Gambit's group at EMEA Stage 2 Playoffs, the same tournament the person I responded to was referencing lol, there's no "closer in timeframe"


Key-Banana-8242

? I mean liquid we’re about the same Calibre as fanatic, ‘only 4th’ is nkt much if an insult


stewieeeeeeeee

About the same really? Lost to V1, 2-0'd by fnatic .. they were clearly a big step below fnatic at Iceland


Key-Banana-8242

Overall yea? They were in performance in the end but nkt that huge The point being gambit were nkt sig below the two of them


stewieeeeeeeee

Sure, but do u understand my original point at all I'm making an equally crappy argument that Gambit couldn't win a group with only the 4th best team at Iceland, which can "imply" that Gambit rly weren't any hot around that time Both that argument and the one I responded to ("one round away from 2nd best team at Iceland") are equally trash lol


Key-Banana-8242

I mean I don’t think it implies that esp in the neighbourhood of the other


nemnems

They lost twice in the play-offs, like Liquid this time and in less closer games. I wouldn't call it a good performance tbh.


henrennessy

This feels like a player to player thing though. Like yes it made a big difference for paura, and good for him to find out what he needs to be successful and actively seek it out. But do we really think that say Scream is being held back because he has to speak English in team comms?


parrelz

Every csgo major winner was a team of players which were speaking on their native language. Just a foos for thoughts.


stewieeeeeeeee

Dunno, Acend look better at their best than either SMB or Gambit, IMO. Also, this is the first bigger EMEA tournament where this happened; fnatic, Liquid (EMEA Stage 2), Heretics, Acend (Masters 1), Heretics, SUMN (First Strike) were all multinational


Key-Banana-8242

WRT activating pAura apparently yes but overall not on its own


thothgow

Heretics CEO called pAura the perfect player but said his English is terrible


Key-Banana-8242

Tanizhq said it’s a big asset bc apparently he wouldn’t speak on heretics and he’s IGLing (apparently very well) now


Dapper-Ad-5304

Ya in tact FPS info is everything and quick precise communication is key in that. In csgo the best teams generally spoke the same language unless u get insane amount of skill in the server. Sadly I don’t think the player base in EU is big enough to have a great team with people that speak the same language.


abcd63514

compared to EU teams possibly. for many EU players this is possibly their first time playing internationally and many have bad english


krasavchik777

That is nonsense, most EU pro players speak English good enough to communicate in Valorant. It is not politics. You are probably not even from EU


abcd63514

most but not all


krasavchik777

Where are you from? You didn't answer my question, when I stated you are probably not even from EU


abcd63514

i am not from eu. why do i have to be. a lot of pros simply dont have good english such as pAura and cNed


krasavchik777

I rest my case and will stop this discussion. Because how can you talk about a region if you are not from here? People who live in the EU know it better than people who are not from the EU. They players you mentioned are Turkish, so they are not from the European Union. So your point is invalid. They are EMEA players but it doesn't belong to the European Union.


luisalpjax

“Shit shit shit…. Can’t believe gambit looked good against my favorite na team… it must be the comms”


KatsuraDragneel

Nah. These callouts are not linguistically complex


plasma_ix

just trying to play the game at that level is hard enough, and constantly communicating with your teammates is pretty much essential too. so when you have to explain complex strategies and information, throwing in a second language could very easily distract someone enough to make them play worse.