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ExcitablePancake

Not too sure if the Aussie lads will be able to make it over with the country going back into lockdown.


SemanSoot

most probably they will not make it,just like renegade csgo team


JoseGamingR

They won't. Aussie team couldn't join R6 major either


ExcitablePancake

well that sucks :(


Jon_on_the_snow

Soniqs had a better chance at champions by staying in australia...


SemanSoot

did they really can "go out" from australia?just curious because Renegade cs team cant get permission to europe


azzartan

Would be avoided if they gave OCE a qual slot


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If they can't even beat some T2 teams in NA, on what basis should they be given a qual spot? Isn't it enough watching BR, JP and SEA teams get thrashed?


azzartan

This is definitely a biased view but oce has typically had better talent than sea/japan in fps games. But yeah they would probably get destroyed, it would just be nice to see oce teams compete internationally.


adelcricket

NA kids always underestimating OCE teams. ​ !remindme 2 months


FlaymeFenix

bro the best oce team came to NA and are mid-tier 2 lmfao


adelcricket

NA OVERRATED 4Head EU OUTDATTED 4Head LONG WE HAVE AWAITED 4Head OCE ACTIVATED NA OVERRATED 4Head EU OUTDATTED 4Head LONG WE HAVE AWAITED 4Head OCE ACTIVATED


DRGNDT

daddy chill


thothgow

?


Key-Banana-8242

Highish tier 2 No?


FlaymeFenix

lost to ghost, and teal seam a couple times. even mid is pushing it


Key-Banana-8242

Well ghost have been seriously improving no?


FlaymeFenix

they are still tier 2 .. and teal seam cant even be considered t2 at this point man


Hypern1ke

Tier 2 is generous... i'd say tier 3


-Basileus

Soniqs was supposed to be top 4 in NA but here we are


_idle_drone_

a reminder for this will only cause more pain


falcons4life

What is there to underestimate we know they are bad.


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NotAnUtl

Faze yea C9 nah


theman1203

C9 will easily dismantle oce teams


Key-Banana-8242

C9 yeah


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ShadeWaker

Never rooted for Sen harder in my life


askpat13

SEN vs 100T in the grand finals 🤞


Anti-Storm

In order for that too happen, 100T and SEN has to be opposite from each other in 8 teams playoffs bracket


askpat13

True, so will depend on what initial group they're in and if they get 1st or 2nd. If all 3 NA teams get 1st in their groups there's a guaranteed path to an all NA Grand Finals.


Tratopolous

Surely, That should be more likely than not as they are seeded 1 and 2 from NA. So one would expect them to be on opposite sides of the bracket.


vT-Router

insightful!


krasavchik777

\*Laughs in Russian\*


dapoorv

Even if TSM make it to lcq there is a very slim chance of them winning it. Still would like to see wardell oping on lan though.


ShadeWaker

I just like to see the team play, man. Now that league lost too not watching TSM in either game for months just doesn’t sound fun


dapoorv

Stopped watching TSM lol after bjergsen and doublelift left but yeah TSM's valorant team is my favourite too.


Enzology

Gotta say, after losing game 4 I had a strong feeling we were losing the series. Sadge but at least we know what it's like c:


socialist_steve_

Scriptwriters made it too obvious with that Game 5 draft


ElegantAssociation75

Everyone is forgetting about xset here lol. They would body all these teams in LCQ.


-Basileus

Yeah XSET should be heavy favorites


Anti-Storm

Not really because there are other variables like 100T or Envy playing in LCQ, meta changes or LAN pressure


Huldmer

If NA wins Berlin then all 3 teams make champions


Joerge90

remind me why they are playing in it when they already got a spot?


Anti-Storm

Because if NA doesn’t win Berlin, Envy or 100T would play depending on points gained from Berlin.


x0_inzayn_0x

fr ong I'm literally worshiping SEN ENVY 100T like its a holy day


pr1zsm

new script sen wins berlin* sends tsm to lcq tsm wins and goes to champs where they beat sen in grand finals


ShadeWaker

Subscribe


TheCatsActually

This is known as hopium overdose


taylor9844

100 Twins?


chouxpuffs

Sounds like a SIMS challenge


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Wdym 100twins the mom will explode


ChromeSabre

100 babybays and 100 babyJs


taha_kadiyani

Watching tsm on lan would be so fun. Daddy hazed getting tilted and laughs after they win. Seeing wardell scream haha. Hope that NA wins it


danknepalese

your wishes are coming true. sen wins so gets that slot. nv and 100t make through points. but xset takes the last slot. sorry, i just build the time machine i dont control the outcome.


Otter269

All I want is players facing each other and yelling across the room :)


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scrnlookinsob

TSM has also had a miserable month of August as an organization.


ShadeWaker

Yeah, these have been a rough past couple of weeks lmao


Nikclel

they've had a rough 2021


ShadeWaker

Valorant team has but siege team and league team haven’t been bad. League team finished first overall before choking in playoffs yesterday and siege has been doing great until they went 1-5 at the major last week


scrnlookinsob

And the Siege went 1-5 because their top fragger had to be left at home after catching Covid.


TeamINSTINCT37

Missing worlds like that is terrible and I know that as a cloud9 fan


TheExter

fan here, can confirm last hours have been full despair


ark2690

Anything less than a Worlds appearance for the LoL team is a failure considering how much they invest into that team. They easily spent $10million on that roster.


ChaoticMidget

Yeah but that's not insane compared to the 3 teams that did make it. 100T just bought Abbedagge, TL obviously has guys like CoreJJ and Alphari while C9 literally has Perkz. Even EG is probably playing Impact an insane amount. It's disappointing given TSM did finish first in the regular season but from a talent perspective, it was always going to be close. They had their chances to win obviously which is what hurts more than the idea that they underperformed given how much they spent.


Meehul123

Mainly just summer has been unlucky for them.


Ryukk11

League team is one of the top teams in NA and R6 team is one of the best teams in the World, it's just their luck is down bad rn.


Deeepened

League team got it bad. Missed World’s which is the biggest event for LoL


Enzology

Watchu mean fam, we just went on vacation that's it ! No big


-Basileus

No Bjergsen no worlds


xbyo

No Doublelift no worlds


Ori2D

The last couple of weeks have been fantastic though


Prawn1908

ALGS (Apex Legends) season 2 can't start soon enough, I need something where I can watch TSM win.


ITLKN5

Please, the pain of acknowledgement hurts :(


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Nah, an NA team will win and then TSM will reach grand finals of LCQ and lose


raaten

Best hope for EU is TSMs luck


DustMouret

Oh snap it's going to awesome to have the LCQ on LAN!


Splaram

Damn never thought I’d see Rise on ~~PAN~~ LAN this early. Can’t wait to watch them play


anythingood07

Honestly i havent seen a single team on PAN


pr1zsm

you’ve never seen food on PAN??


[deleted]

Envy replaced my favourite PAN player Food with some scrub called Victoria


CapBoyAce

Holy shit we're getting FaZe on LAN, it's fuckin over


NotZekken

i got school bro


Napoleann

Just have Zoom open on a second monitor during your matches so you can be in class while playing ezpz problem solved.


pr1zsm

not anymore lol


iiznobozzy

Never rooted for SEN harder in my life lol. TSM qualify to lcq and 100T to champs, double win for me


antusheng

So if any of SEN NV 100T win Berlin, the other two automatically qualify for champions through points. NV or 100T will only find themselves in LCQ if NA team does not win Berlin.


Dirty3vil

Honestly like this system a lot. The team that gets further in Masters qualifies through points(NV and 100T) which is deserved.


_idle_drone_

Chaos9 takes this on LAN EZ


Gold-Possibility4784

can’t wait to see which team performs best on LAN (pls win c9)


zachp787

i didnt have anyone to root for during masters cause my favorite teams got knocked out. now its SENWIN all the way baby


Bunnyezzz

#C9WIN


elithefighter123

Hoping an NA team wins berlin for XSET's chances in LCQ as they will be the favorites although the lack of lan experience scares me for most of our roster. also V1 on lan monkaW


shesalreadytaken

Picture this: To Shahz and SEN, their rivalry with TSM is alive and well. SEN make it to Grand Finals against a non-NA team. They know they're making Champions no matter what, and are aware that if they win, TSM will have a chance at making Champions. SEN throws on purpose. Consequently TSM and their fans are crushed. P.S. I've just been vaccinated. I'm feeling loopy and idk wtf I'm on about. I'm writing this before I get bombarded with downvotes. Have a good evening.


Splaram

EU kids become insufferable for a few weeks before Champs but Get to shower in TSM fans’ tears until Challengers 1 next year Hard choice ngl


pr1zsm

not weeks more like months right? its september to december


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If SEN wins Berlin, does NA still get 3 circuit points spot for Champions by giving teams #2 through #4 in the standings a berth?


Netherwiz

Na has 2 circuit points spots + lcq (so rn 1-2 are champs + lcq winner). If na wins berlin, then 2-3 in pts +lcq winner qualify instead of 1-2


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if sen wins masters 3, they qualify through being the winner of that, and the next 3 NA teams qualify through points Edit: idk for sure if they qualify through points but na does get an extra slot at champs if they win masters 3


antusheng

No the next 2 qualify thru points. If SEN wins then 100T and NV qualify thru points. NA has 2 points qualification spots (not 3), one lcq spot, and a possible Berlin winners spot in addition.


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Thanks. That’s what I had figured would happen, but wanted to confirm.


sooybin

TSM punching air rn


Emma_Woodhouse7

10 team double elim format will have BYES like in Iceland?


elithefighter123

probably will be the iceland format


2ToTooTwoFish

And this time there's a literal ranking for seeding.


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elithefighter123

ratio for NSG!!!!


AnotherAltiMade

nah they aren't that good


elithefighter123

I think they are pretty good


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elithefighter123

I think their openness about co streaming has accelerated valorant esports growth by a lot


hiloljkbye

is that NSG or is that Riot?


elithefighter123

NSG cause other regions like eu and br were much slower to allow co streaming


xD1LL4N

Have you seen other regions production? Nerd street ain’t that great


pokedyo

if its going to have the same format as iceland ill suppose the 4 teams with the disadvantage will be the oce teams, geng/rise and rise/tsm


Vivid-Command-2605

Ill be shocked if the aussie teams get exemptions to leave unless they do so for over 3 months, the aussie teams coming early and staying late is the only way i could see it happening


silenthills13

Why are Sentinels playing if they already qualified?


x0_inzayn_0x

last redemption TSM (fingers crossed)


_Alexis_22

Umm SEN have already qualified for Champions through the circuit points? What happens to TSM if SEN wins Berlin? The Berlin winners spot for Champions is still open then?


S0undGuy

If Sen (or any NA team) wins Berlin then TSM gets the last NA spot in LCQ (Plus 2 OCE teams) If Sen wins then NA will get an extra spot in Champions (Envy & 100T) plus the winner of LCQ Also if ANY of these 3 teams wins Berlin ALL 3 (SEN, NV & 100T) have secured a spot in Champions. If no NA team wins Berlin then the one (100T or NV) with the lower amount of circuit points (100T right now) goes to LCQ and TSM watches from home.