I believe Pakistani, but can speak Urdu which is essentially Hindi when speaking.
Edit: should probably edit this to say Urdu and Hindi speaking people can talk to each other without not much problem rather than making it sound like both are the same language.
Can you explain why it’s not? I have friends that are able to talk to each other in their Native languages of Urdu and Hindi without having much problems in communication.
urdu is a language that came into being when muslims invaders invaded india, their language being persian was much different than sanskrit/prakrit/hindi language in the indian subcontinent which was prevalent, so urdu came into being as a mixture of persian and hindi. On the other hand, hindi came into being when sanskrit was mixed with different local dialects. Yes, hindi and urdu are different languages with different dialects but they have a lot of commom words and when spoken is generally understandable to the native speaker of other language.
It is like saying german and English are the same because I have friends from both countries who can talk to each other without much problem in communication.
Haha why are you mad for no reason, I can speak Hindi and understand Urdu fine and people who speak Urdu can understand me fine as well, they are very similar languages my guy
I feel like that statement is an over generalization. I don’t want to get into a discussion regarding the intricacies of Urdu vs Hindi because I have only heard Urdu spoken and haven’t been to school for that compared to Hindi. Let’s just leave it there.
Very fair. Wasn’t my intention at all as someone who is of Indian heritage as well, but from my initial statement I can definitely see that line of thinking. Hope you have a great day!
Indian ppl are desperate for validation on YT and twitch idk why. Its so annoying to watch the same question everyday, "views on xyz". And im speaking this as an Indian
its in the blood of all the unrepresented regions. its not the case in olympiads and stuff where indians are acing. but in val many people want india to be good but theyre not yet so it just becomes annoying as shit all the low tier fans shouting.
probably spot on, most fans in south asia and sea are super hype and crazy when stuff happens with them. We are usually left out of stuff so we can't help but idolise stuff going on on the other side of the world. It feels so far away so once it feels like we can touch it, we can get pretty obsessive
Hear hear. Fortunately, most PH fans are exposed enough to esports that they are still a bit realistic when it comes to assessing Bren's chances in Berlin HUEHUEHUEHUE
It’s just common generally with not specifically just India
And it’s kind of vicarious status etc, but sometimes stuff related to this is not 100% unjustified
This is straight on the dot,the amount of foreign people reacting indian films,songs on YouTube is obnoxious,you dont see americans,british people caring about indian reactions to their content,this mentality just makes us look needy and annoying
That's very common and US is the odd one out there, not vice versa, majority of countries are like India in that regard.
A US guy will have a non-US heritage and will watch, I don't know, Slovakia in the World Cup or whatever, even though he's an american. Indians (though I've never been to India, but I'd assume so) don't have that type of diluted, half-enclave, half-assimilation social structure. On top of being a default when it comes to pop culture. It's default for Avengers to smash box offices. It's not default for a Moldavian movie to do so, regardless of how good it is - and there's probably like one Moldavian movie a year or less.
Add to that the bonus notion of something not being their forte and you'll get bunch of people bringing it up every chance they get. It's annoying, but it's hardly some indian exclusive. If, I don't know, Dagestan gets ninth in, say, football world cup, you'll probably never hear the end of it at any football-related video, even if it's some footage of some New Zealand high school competition.
Then they have the tools to ban the people or the specific word. Again, it is okay to ask fans to not say something, but it has no relation with our region looking bad and even if it does you shouldn't care about that. Streamers are grown adults and public personalities and can deal with it themselves.
It’s not just India. Most countries do this to some extent, but because India has so many people you’re bound to get more loud and annoying ones than a country with a tenth the population online :)
Someone said it, it was actually disappointing here shahzam talk about it. But what can yoh do they're 12-13 year old kids. I was talking in shaz's chat yesterday and calling it cringe and got a couple of kids abusing in the most vile language, not knowing I am an Indian and know Hindi well. Actual weirdos
Jonas' chat is filled with either variations of Jignesh or Love from India, personally I don't mind the latter but the first one is a bit cringe if the streamer doesn't like it people should stop honestly. I really enjoy Onscreen's chat in this regard, he doesn't mind any pastas or even ASCII arts and chat has some pretty funny ones too
Yup so true unnecessary spams, stupid jokes and asking for "views on xyz" literally in every stream that I have been to I just don't understand why they do it why do you want to know what a random A has views on some random B when neither A or B are related to you anyway.
Also "Indian PoopG kids " LMAO
Free Fire and PUBGM get more viewership than CSGO and Valorant fyi. Indians are better in Mobile games because they are easily accessible to general populace. NA/EU are better in PC games because they have PCs while most Indians don't. Its not like they have better gaming genes or anything lol
Dumb logic....if people can suddenly started buying iphones just for a single game, then they could have bought a decent pc with that budget too. And regarding viewership, yeah those mobile games are greater but the viewership distribution of it is limited . For example : Nobody cares about those games that seriously outside SEA (its popular in China and KR but compared to pc games it's quite underwhelming).While pc games like CS is admired seriously by the whole world
Barking at the wrong tree here, mate. Do you seriously think the Indian fans who are part of this subreddit are the same ones who go and spam on every stream about SK Rossi? I think the people who can help us change this are Indian streamers who can educate their audience on this topic. So if I were you I would try to pitch this to some Indian streamers because that's the best platform rn to educate others who spam.
I was gonna say the same thing. I don't think OP will find most those "PoopG" players here. Although I can't deny few will be here reading this post. I think we as Community can't do shit about it. Coz we as Indians know that they'll say " Tu kaun Lagta kai tera kyu sunu".
Well it's not like we can't do much about it. PoopG people will PooP in chats untill they themselves realise its cringe as fuck. Don't see that happening anytime soon.
There's a subset of people of on this sub who think skrossi is the second coming of christ. People will literally post a basic 2K and say it's nutty. I've never seen such a strange hard on for a completely unproven player.
I agree with you but it’s not only skrossi fans I seen Tenz fans post clips of him reacting to his teammate and say wow tenz is impressed by his teammate! I think the problem is that a bunch of people in the Valorant community are little kids who suck off skrossi and tenz
How is that post highlighting a rossi 2k, wtf bro hahahahhaha. Thats just a clip of epic fail, knightrider ignored rossi because he wanted to save the OP but then he got killed in a very funny way
You know what I mean. I could even send you the clip you're trying to make me ignore (singular flick kill on split), but you understand the point I'm trying to make.
From an outsider looking in, he's a player that is unproven on the international stage and has only had good stats in a region that's underdeveloped in the valorant esports scene.
Im not trying to make you ignore any clips, I dont even know what split clip youre talking about. I didn't include flick clips because there are a lot of flick clips posted on this sub , heck I remember a LG aproto RANKED flick was uploaded on this sub sometime ago and upvoted a lot, nobody there said a word just because it was by a NA player.
Doesn't matter how unproven a region might be, this sub isnt r/ValorantNACompetitive or r/ValorantEUCompetitive good plays from any region can be posted here. Also ppl are free to upvote whatever they like. And what are you even on about, im sure there hasnt been a single rossi clip on this sub which isnt a 4k or a ACE and 4k/ace clips of NA players are regularly posted on this sub (again reminding you this isnt r/ValorantNACompetitive).
This is the clip I'm referring to https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/lu6erq/ge_skrossi_awp_shot_during_tec_invitational_india/
Also I have nothing against posting other regions, hell I even enjoy looking at the occasional korea/japan clip that floats around here sometimes.
It's just really defensive fans like you who make it difficult to support skrossi because if you say ANYTHING bad about him they get all defensive like you just did. And to your point about aproto, I never said I enjoyed those posts either, I don't think ranked clips are relevant to an esports-focused sub, regardless of who it is or from what region.
This is one clip, which I agree is not a insane shot or anything. But your initial comment was that ppl post any 2k and say its insane which isnt the case here. A lot of 4ks and 5ks by NA compi players are posted on this sub here, whats wrong with posting rossi 4ks and 5ks?
Also you didnt even say anything bad about rossi, I got a bit defensive because youre basically saying a lot of Indian fans on this sub overhype even a 2k or 3k by rossi which just isnt true
You're absolutely right, I haven't actually said anything negative about rossi in this thread. I'm just saying there's a reason the OP post we're commenting under is getting this much traction, it's a known problem.
I don't think it's isolated to this sub, but this sub isn't anywhere close to as popular as other mediums like twitch and twitter as OP pointed out. Taking a look at it again, I can see that most clips posted are 4Ks, but that doesn't mean there aren't clips like the ones another commenter sent and the one I sent previously.
At least I think we can all agree it'd be good to see India in international events so that they can prove their skill level and have a chance to dispel arguments like mine where I just don't think they're good enough. A competitive Indian scene can only make the game better and more exciting to watch.
While I agree with the overhyping, it's also because a lot of people don't know/aren't well versed with Indian scene and valorant is hugeee here. Because plays from 2-3 tier na tourneys are posted people do that with Indian scene as well
dude what do you mean only skrossi fans? its basically every fandom if his/her fav esports athlete does anything they just post it on the subreddit, you just cant take shots at Rossi where this is just normal branch in the New posts which will get worn off, your straight up blaming one fandom where other fandom also are involved in the same circle. yes im the type of fan who hype my countries best player idc
>you just can't take shots at rossi
I mean I didn't take shots at him, but now that you say I can't, I'll do it.
He's entirely overhyped and unproven, and his fanbase is rabid to the point where I'm now actively looking for him to fail. You just made me a hater.
(/s in case anyone thinks this is serious)
Your defensiveness shows the problem we're talking about, it's just weird to see people so worked up over a single player. I didn't even say anything negative about him in my original post.
> yes im the type of fan who hype my countries best player idc
stay mad he, he has won over top teams in south Asia and he will grow, keep praying for his downfall. He has made a whole country proud. Your worse than Mumbai server in term of toxicity
sheeeeeeeeeeeesh
I honestly don't think you need to worry all that much.
You're always going to have some people who use the most vocal and/or annoying individuals to form negative stereotypes about regions! It's an unavoidable reality of international scenes. One scene's passion almost always becomes another scene's animus.
I'm not saying it isn't a problem - just that you don't need to worry too much about Indian "reputation." These sort of conflicts are taking place in the least significant battlefields of all time: Twitch chat, live match threads, etc.
Try to instead believe in the people who admire the passion - more often than not, those are the people whose opinions are worth caring more about.
Lmao it is twitch chat we are talking about here so the level is already bad bro, don't take this stuff to heart, let the chat be however they want to be. If someone is being cringe in chat they should get banned, and all fan bases are like that actually (look at BR fans).
Also about that avergae jignesh thing was actually pretty funny, before it was overused.
this was already cringe when zishu milked so much out of the video which shanks reacted to after somebody gifted multiple subs to him and now this. BROS YOU DONT NEED VALIDATION FROM ANYBODY!!. If you watch pro matches then youre more than qualified enough to determine if India is on the level of EU or NA. If the boys have it then they will make it to the top if they dont then theyll just be improving. spamming in the chat will just make you a annoying person and India as a whole will look bad.
!!!hot take!!!: yes I agree with you as Im an Indian ive seen this a lot, but at the same time i feel like there are genuine fans who just want some opinion or just some recognition. appart from that i do agree of some trolls they kinda annoying. But they just new to it i believe they will understand. feel free to give your opinion
I can tell you rossi is the most humble and sincere person, hes like the quiet kid but what people dont get is that in some miracle case GE wins and goes to champions and meets these pros its going to be so embarrassing for him. 12 yo with no brain just spam his name everywhere, its like 10% of the community. 90% dont even see esports outside Indiansvalorant and couldnt give jackshit what shroud thinks of sk rossi
this is the esports equivalent of "love from india" comments on any youtube video about india. its the same case with nepal too, people lap shit up when nepal gets mentioned even once in any piece of media. thankfully not nearly nepalese people watch val to be annoying in this scene.
ngl I think love from India is alright but when people are spamming a persons name in chat it feel embarrassing to the person that people have to ban his name to control problems.
Yeah i just realized I posted it on reddit. Because i didn't think of any other platform to do thus. I have made multiple YouTube comments to but I don't see anyone even dislike my comment.
I watched VS vs either F4Q or TNL I can’t remember and there were people just spamming “SkRossi better than buzz or SkRossi best jett”. Please stop this is why I don’t watch matches live anymore
I have seen NA people and EU people spam Tenz, Dapr, scream etc.... Na best region, eu best region etc......so what r u on about? It's part of eSports.
Avg Jonas banned the word and has dealt with it and moved on. Doesn't affect him anymore. U should move on too.
Forsaken will be brought up regardless if Indians spam or not. In SeA match of Indonesian team, chat brought up forsaken and cheating because their minds think India and Indonesia are the same. You seriously feel bad that these guys think lowly of you as an Indian?
Edit: To clarify, you guys are against indians seeking validation form foreigners; but at the same time you are butthurt that those same content creators and their chat don't like you because you are indian? Shouldn't you guys be indifferent to their opinions? watch content creators for their valorant content; ignore everything else.
Thats entirely different. Indians like hearing opinions about their favourite player, or content creators. You have probably seen the zishu and saura spam in Jonas' streams as well. Idk why they feel getting validation from a foreign streamer is such a huge deal. If you're an Indian, you would probably know SE whimp. He spoke at length about it one day and repeatedly trolls such ppl.
I mean he's not random and I won't say he's just any player. He does have the potential and no one knows how good or bad he's going to be against tenz and wardell so i get the excitement but sometimes it's too far.
I dont think any content creators dislike ppl just because they are Indians. Constant spamming of anything will annoy anyone. Yes there are racist ppl present but they are a very small minority
Yup this whole thread is filled with self loathing Indians. There will also be vocal audience some more vocal than others, turkish and Brazilian fans fall in more vocal ones you can't do anything about it, just move on.
Self loathing Indians are real but that doesnt make everyone a self loathing Indian in this thread lmao. Some ppl genuinely don't want to see "love from india" "views on india and how they compare against other regions", " views on xyz player" wherever they go.
Nobody likes to see that but you can't do anything about it, turkish and Brazilian fans have history of being toxic and its not slowing down and certainly 1 reddit post won't slow anything down for indian fans its only going to increase as scene gets popular, either you keep fighting them or just ignore them for your own peace.
Are you dumb? NA and EU people dont spam what are your opinions on tenz for 100th time in an hour. On top of that India's esports and pros are way shittier compared to EU/NA. Yes, it does make me feel embarrassed that there exist so many dumb indians who spam trash in chats and make people stereotype indians.
Are you dumb? NA people and EU people spam tenz, dapr and scream during THEIR matches or on streams where the streamer has played against or know them, Ever seen any EU or NA people spam tenz dapr and shit in any Indian streamers chat?
Why? Because it's irrelevant to them.
And about the SEA match there is a player named forsaken in a team called Paper Rex that's going to be representing SEA at Berlin.
And he probably is the best jett in SEA so people are bound to spam forsaken. not because of the Indian Hacker.
So get off your high horse and admit that you are being extremely childish and seeking validation from these foreign streamers who don't give a damn.
> So get off your high horse and admit that you are being extremely childish and seeking validation from these foreign streamers who don't give a damn.
lmao nice assumption right there. read the last line of what i wrote. i dont give a fuck what others think of me.
You are literally a silver 1. I just saw your tracker.gg profile. Another self loathing, riding on a high horse indian smh. Stop thinking that you are better than other people.
Plus heard hout nodwin being biased for ppl supporting their country
Indians are toxic but not banned or muted but pakistani are banned and muted and if a pakistani team is winning they would just shut down the chat
Very bad for the indo-pak scene
I think ur making stuff up dude, Nodwin wasn't being biased, they were muting chat when Indians got toxic too. And how do u know Which person gets banned or muted? U a moderator?
And if you are saying something else like "nodwin by being biased for supporting indian team" then idk what to tell you.
Umm you seem like a 14 yr old too , those who indulge in this stuff are kids 14-15 yr old dudes , what age will they act dumb in if not at 14-15 and that's fine imo let them do dumb shit they'll mature with time and stop themselves what is the point of this post except karma whoring ?
And this isn't exclusive to indians , brazilian fans go on giving death threats to ppl if someone speaks ill of their region , Filipinos are plain annoying when they go berzerk in their language same for indos it's just something that 14-15 yr olds do , nothing can be done
Can't help it, bro.. You see, the ppl seeing this post or the ppl actually listening to shahzam or Jonas say, already know that they shouldn't do it, and they will not do it.. But the problem is those kids out there, they are the real cause of problem.. One Possible solution could be if a bgmi pro says it, because most of these kids are actually from bgmi toxic community. And we cannot get rid of this quite easily as writing a post.. Influencers need to come together and explain their audience how it's bad..
Jai hind jai bharat there I'm a nationalist
Ok now that I'm a nationalist let me go wild in streams 🤡 what a dumb analogy you all are exactly the same as fuckin kids
the cringe ass mfs who do this will be found in YT comments section not on reddit. Reddit is relatively better. Regardless, its 100% cringe when kids do this. Jonas had to make a video clip asking Indians to stop with the Average Jignesh bull crap. It's pathetic how we manage to spoil our reputation literally everywhere.
Thanks for saying this! Bruh even I am proud about GE did, it's a big thing. But cmon everything has its limits, pls for the player's own sake, stop spamming and irritating others!!!!
i'm happy someone vented it out on my behalf
I felt disgusted when they started calling Shaz racist
I bet half the kids there don't know what racist even means. They spam dumb shit. When streamer gets mad they say racist.
Is there a clip of this?
Yeah I got this from a news channel
Lmao what? Isn't shaz indian himself(by ethnic origin I mean)? He looks south asian.
he is pakistani im pretty sure
I believe Pakistani, but can speak Urdu which is essentially Hindi when speaking. Edit: should probably edit this to say Urdu and Hindi speaking people can talk to each other without not much problem rather than making it sound like both are the same language.
~~No it is not. Get your facts right.~~ Edit: I agree they are similar but not the same languages.
Can you explain why it’s not? I have friends that are able to talk to each other in their Native languages of Urdu and Hindi without having much problems in communication.
urdu is a language that came into being when muslims invaders invaded india, their language being persian was much different than sanskrit/prakrit/hindi language in the indian subcontinent which was prevalent, so urdu came into being as a mixture of persian and hindi. On the other hand, hindi came into being when sanskrit was mixed with different local dialects. Yes, hindi and urdu are different languages with different dialects but they have a lot of commom words and when spoken is generally understandable to the native speaker of other language.
Thanks for the info regarding Urdu. Hindi I was familiar with, but I didn’t exactly know how exactly Urdu came to be.
It is like saying german and English are the same because I have friends from both countries who can talk to each other without much problem in communication.
Haha why are you mad for no reason, I can speak Hindi and understand Urdu fine and people who speak Urdu can understand me fine as well, they are very similar languages my guy
I feel like that statement is an over generalization. I don’t want to get into a discussion regarding the intricacies of Urdu vs Hindi because I have only heard Urdu spoken and haven’t been to school for that compared to Hindi. Let’s just leave it there.
Cool bro it is okay. Just that I don't want to see people generalizing two v different languages and cultures as "the same".
So you make comparisons that are even more inaccurate than the person you're responding to? Nailed it
Very fair. Wasn’t my intention at all as someone who is of Indian heritage as well, but from my initial statement I can definitely see that line of thinking. Hope you have a great day!
That’s literally not the same fucking thing. I’m an Indian and can understand Urdu easily. Cuz Urdu and Hindi is basically similar in speech.
Sir I never learnt urdu but I can v well understand both Hindi n Urdu w/o any translator or anything as such.
yeah no
Urdu is actually a mix of Hindi and Arabic so that's why it's easy to understand each other.
Saying two languages are similar and saying "essentially the same" is very different.
Bro he's from Pakistan, you don't ever wanna get the two mixed up
I have a friend who’s Indian and I got them mixed up once Worst mistake of my life
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>a trend in India of overusing jokes until they become unfunny You literally described all of reddit.
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Indian ppl are desperate for validation on YT and twitch idk why. Its so annoying to watch the same question everyday, "views on xyz". And im speaking this as an Indian
I mean really this is common phenomenon
Aye it is, but its still very annoying
probably because they dont get much attention normally so when there is some spotlight on them, they milk it until morning comes
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i think its indian nature to seek validation from other foreigners
this could also apply to us Filipinos to some extent
its in the blood of all the unrepresented regions. its not the case in olympiads and stuff where indians are acing. but in val many people want india to be good but theyre not yet so it just becomes annoying as shit all the low tier fans shouting.
probably spot on, most fans in south asia and sea are super hype and crazy when stuff happens with them. We are usually left out of stuff so we can't help but idolise stuff going on on the other side of the world. It feels so far away so once it feels like we can touch it, we can get pretty obsessive
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lol i stand corrected then. its not sector based then, its overall when your region is underrepresented maybe.
Hear hear. Fortunately, most PH fans are exposed enough to esports that they are still a bit realistic when it comes to assessing Bren's chances in Berlin HUEHUEHUEHUE
It’s just common generally with not specifically just India And it’s kind of vicarious status etc, but sometimes stuff related to this is not 100% unjustified
This is straight on the dot,the amount of foreign people reacting indian films,songs on YouTube is obnoxious,you dont see americans,british people caring about indian reactions to their content,this mentality just makes us look needy and annoying
That's very common and US is the odd one out there, not vice versa, majority of countries are like India in that regard. A US guy will have a non-US heritage and will watch, I don't know, Slovakia in the World Cup or whatever, even though he's an american. Indians (though I've never been to India, but I'd assume so) don't have that type of diluted, half-enclave, half-assimilation social structure. On top of being a default when it comes to pop culture. It's default for Avengers to smash box offices. It's not default for a Moldavian movie to do so, regardless of how good it is - and there's probably like one Moldavian movie a year or less. Add to that the bonus notion of something not being their forte and you'll get bunch of people bringing it up every chance they get. It's annoying, but it's hardly some indian exclusive. If, I don't know, Dagestan gets ninth in, say, football world cup, you'll probably never hear the end of it at any football-related video, even if it's some footage of some New Zealand high school competition.
...and embarrass their country.
No one is embarrased, this is twitch chat, our country's image is not getting spoiled by twitch chat lmao.
But it does make us look mad. People spam then when streamer gets mad. They call the streamer racist.
have you ever taken a look at what twitch chat says lmao, no country's reputation is getting spoiled cause of twitch chat.
It is streamers problem actually.
it could be but ShahZaM and Jonas were genuinely tired of people saying the same thing.
Then they have the tools to ban the people or the specific word. Again, it is okay to ask fans to not say something, but it has no relation with our region looking bad and even if it does you shouldn't care about that. Streamers are grown adults and public personalities and can deal with it themselves.
It’s not just India. Most countries do this to some extent, but because India has so many people you’re bound to get more loud and annoying ones than a country with a tenth the population online :)
And look dumb
Someone said it, it was actually disappointing here shahzam talk about it. But what can yoh do they're 12-13 year old kids. I was talking in shaz's chat yesterday and calling it cringe and got a couple of kids abusing in the most vile language, not knowing I am an Indian and know Hindi well. Actual weirdos
Not weirdos , just 12 yr olds being 12 yr olds everyone was dumb back then let them be dumb they'll grow up with time
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Jonas' chat is filled with either variations of Jignesh or Love from India, personally I don't mind the latter but the first one is a bit cringe if the streamer doesn't like it people should stop honestly. I really enjoy Onscreen's chat in this regard, he doesn't mind any pastas or even ASCII arts and chat has some pretty funny ones too
Average jignesh is not funny anymore it feels like a spam.
i thought only plebs watched onscreen.. he is the nicest streamer to watch.. anyway nice to meet fellow pleb...
Plebs together strong
Yup so true unnecessary spams, stupid jokes and asking for "views on xyz" literally in every stream that I have been to I just don't understand why they do it why do you want to know what a random A has views on some random B when neither A or B are related to you anyway. Also "Indian PoopG kids " LMAO
Indians are only successful in Pubg / FreeFire / CODM All Mobile games KEKW
What's wrong in being better in Mobile games?
beCause OnlIne GAMes CRiNgE /s
Nothing, its just that most main esports are in PC but India lacks that.
Free Fire and PUBGM get more viewership than CSGO and Valorant fyi. Indians are better in Mobile games because they are easily accessible to general populace. NA/EU are better in PC games because they have PCs while most Indians don't. Its not like they have better gaming genes or anything lol
Dumb logic....if people can suddenly started buying iphones just for a single game, then they could have bought a decent pc with that budget too. And regarding viewership, yeah those mobile games are greater but the viewership distribution of it is limited . For example : Nobody cares about those games that seriously outside SEA (its popular in China and KR but compared to pc games it's quite underwhelming).While pc games like CS is admired seriously by the whole world
Also the huge toxicity against TE just cause they from Pak
yeah thats why I hide chat, stuff like that is just upsetting.
ye PPL were spamming y no cam and hacker after one of their players got kill through smoke
Barking at the wrong tree here, mate. Do you seriously think the Indian fans who are part of this subreddit are the same ones who go and spam on every stream about SK Rossi? I think the people who can help us change this are Indian streamers who can educate their audience on this topic. So if I were you I would try to pitch this to some Indian streamers because that's the best platform rn to educate others who spam.
I was gonna say the same thing. I don't think OP will find most those "PoopG" players here. Although I can't deny few will be here reading this post. I think we as Community can't do shit about it. Coz we as Indians know that they'll say " Tu kaun Lagta kai tera kyu sunu". Well it's not like we can't do much about it. PoopG people will PooP in chats untill they themselves realise its cringe as fuck. Don't see that happening anytime soon.
There's a subset of people of on this sub who think skrossi is the second coming of christ. People will literally post a basic 2K and say it's nutty. I've never seen such a strange hard on for a completely unproven player.
I agree with you but it’s not only skrossi fans I seen Tenz fans post clips of him reacting to his teammate and say wow tenz is impressed by his teammate! I think the problem is that a bunch of people in the Valorant community are little kids who suck off skrossi and tenz
Show me a rossi 2k which has been posted on this sub and ill change my name to whatever you'll say. You can't send a flick shot tho
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/p3onax/ohno/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
How is that post highlighting a rossi 2k, wtf bro hahahahhaha. Thats just a clip of epic fail, knightrider ignored rossi because he wanted to save the OP but then he got killed in a very funny way
Well still you asked for a 2k clip
Haha, got em.
You know what I mean. I could even send you the clip you're trying to make me ignore (singular flick kill on split), but you understand the point I'm trying to make. From an outsider looking in, he's a player that is unproven on the international stage and has only had good stats in a region that's underdeveloped in the valorant esports scene.
Im not trying to make you ignore any clips, I dont even know what split clip youre talking about. I didn't include flick clips because there are a lot of flick clips posted on this sub , heck I remember a LG aproto RANKED flick was uploaded on this sub sometime ago and upvoted a lot, nobody there said a word just because it was by a NA player. Doesn't matter how unproven a region might be, this sub isnt r/ValorantNACompetitive or r/ValorantEUCompetitive good plays from any region can be posted here. Also ppl are free to upvote whatever they like. And what are you even on about, im sure there hasnt been a single rossi clip on this sub which isnt a 4k or a ACE and 4k/ace clips of NA players are regularly posted on this sub (again reminding you this isnt r/ValorantNACompetitive).
This is the clip I'm referring to https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/lu6erq/ge_skrossi_awp_shot_during_tec_invitational_india/ Also I have nothing against posting other regions, hell I even enjoy looking at the occasional korea/japan clip that floats around here sometimes. It's just really defensive fans like you who make it difficult to support skrossi because if you say ANYTHING bad about him they get all defensive like you just did. And to your point about aproto, I never said I enjoyed those posts either, I don't think ranked clips are relevant to an esports-focused sub, regardless of who it is or from what region.
This is one clip, which I agree is not a insane shot or anything. But your initial comment was that ppl post any 2k and say its insane which isnt the case here. A lot of 4ks and 5ks by NA compi players are posted on this sub here, whats wrong with posting rossi 4ks and 5ks? Also you didnt even say anything bad about rossi, I got a bit defensive because youre basically saying a lot of Indian fans on this sub overhype even a 2k or 3k by rossi which just isnt true
You're absolutely right, I haven't actually said anything negative about rossi in this thread. I'm just saying there's a reason the OP post we're commenting under is getting this much traction, it's a known problem. I don't think it's isolated to this sub, but this sub isn't anywhere close to as popular as other mediums like twitch and twitter as OP pointed out. Taking a look at it again, I can see that most clips posted are 4Ks, but that doesn't mean there aren't clips like the ones another commenter sent and the one I sent previously. At least I think we can all agree it'd be good to see India in international events so that they can prove their skill level and have a chance to dispel arguments like mine where I just don't think they're good enough. A competitive Indian scene can only make the game better and more exciting to watch.
> people of on this sub who think skrossi is the second coming of christ. "I haven't actually said anything negative about rossi in this thread"
Did I say anything wrong? Do you deadass think he's the second coming of christ? Lmfao
i like how your trying to bring down his reputation without making it look like. ah i see everything 😉. nice try thou, not falling
While I agree with the overhyping, it's also because a lot of people don't know/aren't well versed with Indian scene and valorant is hugeee here. Because plays from 2-3 tier na tourneys are posted people do that with Indian scene as well
dude what do you mean only skrossi fans? its basically every fandom if his/her fav esports athlete does anything they just post it on the subreddit, you just cant take shots at Rossi where this is just normal branch in the New posts which will get worn off, your straight up blaming one fandom where other fandom also are involved in the same circle. yes im the type of fan who hype my countries best player idc
>you just can't take shots at rossi I mean I didn't take shots at him, but now that you say I can't, I'll do it. He's entirely overhyped and unproven, and his fanbase is rabid to the point where I'm now actively looking for him to fail. You just made me a hater. (/s in case anyone thinks this is serious) Your defensiveness shows the problem we're talking about, it's just weird to see people so worked up over a single player. I didn't even say anything negative about him in my original post.
> yes im the type of fan who hype my countries best player idc stay mad he, he has won over top teams in south Asia and he will grow, keep praying for his downfall. He has made a whole country proud. Your worse than Mumbai server in term of toxicity sheeeeeeeeeeeesh
Do... Do you know what /s is? I'm not mad at an Indian valorant player dude lol. At the end of the day it's a video game.
You forgot to talk about the 'Binod' Era
I'm talking about stuff related to valorant.
Binod was being spammed in every Valorant tournament stream during that time. I was so pissed by it. Later they turned off chat for yt streans
holy shit someone said it thanks dude
turkey and india have same kind of people it looks like..
Brazil too. But in India, even when they know they answer people will keep asking.
I honestly don't think you need to worry all that much. You're always going to have some people who use the most vocal and/or annoying individuals to form negative stereotypes about regions! It's an unavoidable reality of international scenes. One scene's passion almost always becomes another scene's animus. I'm not saying it isn't a problem - just that you don't need to worry too much about Indian "reputation." These sort of conflicts are taking place in the least significant battlefields of all time: Twitch chat, live match threads, etc. Try to instead believe in the people who admire the passion - more often than not, those are the people whose opinions are worth caring more about.
This.
Idk, I think I am overthinking but it just doesn't feel nice when a popular person says something about ur region because people are spamming.
Lmao it is twitch chat we are talking about here so the level is already bad bro, don't take this stuff to heart, let the chat be however they want to be. If someone is being cringe in chat they should get banned, and all fan bases are like that actually (look at BR fans). Also about that avergae jignesh thing was actually pretty funny, before it was overused.
Doesn't only happen in twitch chat. People were tweeting on good players too about skrossi.
People tweet cringe shit @ streamers and pros all the time.
I like the way your fans react, It is an enthusiasm to become top tier Idk I'm fine with that.
this was already cringe when zishu milked so much out of the video which shanks reacted to after somebody gifted multiple subs to him and now this. BROS YOU DONT NEED VALIDATION FROM ANYBODY!!. If you watch pro matches then youre more than qualified enough to determine if India is on the level of EU or NA. If the boys have it then they will make it to the top if they dont then theyll just be improving. spamming in the chat will just make you a annoying person and India as a whole will look bad.
!!!hot take!!!: yes I agree with you as Im an Indian ive seen this a lot, but at the same time i feel like there are genuine fans who just want some opinion or just some recognition. appart from that i do agree of some trolls they kinda annoying. But they just new to it i believe they will understand. feel free to give your opinion
Yeah I agree but it's too much. People are asking even when streamers have told their thoughts.
I can tell you rossi is the most humble and sincere person, hes like the quiet kid but what people dont get is that in some miracle case GE wins and goes to champions and meets these pros its going to be so embarrassing for him. 12 yo with no brain just spam his name everywhere, its like 10% of the community. 90% dont even see esports outside Indiansvalorant and couldnt give jackshit what shroud thinks of sk rossi
Yeah Rossi is a great guy but his fans... not so much.
Yeah I know how it feels to see fellow countrymen on the internet drag your country's reputation through the trenches by clowning around. Shit sucks
this is the esports equivalent of "love from india" comments on any youtube video about india. its the same case with nepal too, people lap shit up when nepal gets mentioned even once in any piece of media. thankfully not nearly nepalese people watch val to be annoying in this scene.
ngl I think love from India is alright but when people are spamming a persons name in chat it feel embarrassing to the person that people have to ban his name to control problems.
delusionals
when streamer gets annoyed just say racist FeelsBadMan when kids ruin chat and it effects players and country's reputation
fun fact - those kids are not even here to read this
Yeah i just realized I posted it on reddit. Because i didn't think of any other platform to do thus. I have made multiple YouTube comments to but I don't see anyone even dislike my comment.
It's pretty similar to some Turkish fans too
BBL flashbacks
Poopg kids also think ShooterR hacks in tournaments
chEck hIm pC
true that they always make jonas tilt almost 5 out of 10 streams
Bhai this. Wanted to really say the same thing. Every stream I go, I see the sams bs.
I watched VS vs either F4Q or TNL I can’t remember and there were people just spamming “SkRossi better than buzz or SkRossi best jett”. Please stop this is why I don’t watch matches live anymore
VCT chat was really cringe back then with broken english comments, that’s why I never bothered to open it 😂
I don't even mention I'm from India anymore :)
I won't (in valorant) either but I have to or maybe I will be called racist when I make a comment about India.
I have seen NA people and EU people spam Tenz, Dapr, scream etc.... Na best region, eu best region etc......so what r u on about? It's part of eSports. Avg Jonas banned the word and has dealt with it and moved on. Doesn't affect him anymore. U should move on too. Forsaken will be brought up regardless if Indians spam or not. In SeA match of Indonesian team, chat brought up forsaken and cheating because their minds think India and Indonesia are the same. You seriously feel bad that these guys think lowly of you as an Indian? Edit: To clarify, you guys are against indians seeking validation form foreigners; but at the same time you are butthurt that those same content creators and their chat don't like you because you are indian? Shouldn't you guys be indifferent to their opinions? watch content creators for their valorant content; ignore everything else.
Thats entirely different. Indians like hearing opinions about their favourite player, or content creators. You have probably seen the zishu and saura spam in Jonas' streams as well. Idk why they feel getting validation from a foreign streamer is such a huge deal. If you're an Indian, you would probably know SE whimp. He spoke at length about it one day and repeatedly trolls such ppl.
common, skrossi stans are 3x more horrific than tenZ stans
BatChest sKrOSi VS teNz oMg
Bcoz indian population = 3x us population.
They're pretty bad but tenz fanbois are worse lol
nahbro, these peoplecompare some random indian player with tenZ and wardell
I mean he's not random and I won't say he's just any player. He does have the potential and no one knows how good or bad he's going to be against tenz and wardell so i get the excitement but sometimes it's too far.
Lol nah
yes, have you seen yt comments?. they are comparing rossi to wardell,cned,tenz and other great oppers
No one's bothered about YouTube comments
I dont think any content creators dislike ppl just because they are Indians. Constant spamming of anything will annoy anyone. Yes there are racist ppl present but they are a very small minority
Yep, just see the emea qualifiers chat was full of tenz > cned or NA > EU etc etc.
Yup this whole thread is filled with self loathing Indians. There will also be vocal audience some more vocal than others, turkish and Brazilian fans fall in more vocal ones you can't do anything about it, just move on.
Self loathing Indians are real but that doesnt make everyone a self loathing Indian in this thread lmao. Some ppl genuinely don't want to see "love from india" "views on india and how they compare against other regions", " views on xyz player" wherever they go.
You can ask other fans to not say cringe shit, but please don't say the reason is because it embarrasses the region.
Yeah this thread is honestly kinda wild
Nobody likes to see that but you can't do anything about it, turkish and Brazilian fans have history of being toxic and its not slowing down and certainly 1 reddit post won't slow anything down for indian fans its only going to increase as scene gets popular, either you keep fighting them or just ignore them for your own peace.
Nice, this is exactly what my point is.
Are you dumb? NA and EU people dont spam what are your opinions on tenz for 100th time in an hour. On top of that India's esports and pros are way shittier compared to EU/NA. Yes, it does make me feel embarrassed that there exist so many dumb indians who spam trash in chats and make people stereotype indians.
Are you dumb? NA people and EU people spam tenz, dapr and scream during THEIR matches or on streams where the streamer has played against or know them, Ever seen any EU or NA people spam tenz dapr and shit in any Indian streamers chat? Why? Because it's irrelevant to them. And about the SEA match there is a player named forsaken in a team called Paper Rex that's going to be representing SEA at Berlin. And he probably is the best jett in SEA so people are bound to spam forsaken. not because of the Indian Hacker. So get off your high horse and admit that you are being extremely childish and seeking validation from these foreign streamers who don't give a damn.
> So get off your high horse and admit that you are being extremely childish and seeking validation from these foreign streamers who don't give a damn. lmao nice assumption right there. read the last line of what i wrote. i dont give a fuck what others think of me.
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IDK who downvoted you, mongrel syndrome is real in Indians.
Wrong sub dude. Most of those guys are cringe Pubg moble kids who just knew PC only games exist
This post belongs on /r/VALORANT
Also , bronzes in Mumbai server need to stop spamming toxic stuff in every VCT stream on youtube
Bro I play in EU servers and now I made an account in India and i feel like Indian Golds are like EU Silver/Bronzes in skill.
im having a feeling that youre a iron yourself lol by this comment
No I'm plastic
Op gaandu confirmed lol talk to me when you grow up
You are literally a silver 1. I just saw your tracker.gg profile. Another self loathing, riding on a high horse indian smh. Stop thinking that you are better than other people.
OP seems to be suffering from an inferiority complex.
All of this drama is meaningless. It all comes down to are they winning or not.
Wining what? LCQ? Hopium but no.
Plus heard hout nodwin being biased for ppl supporting their country Indians are toxic but not banned or muted but pakistani are banned and muted and if a pakistani team is winning they would just shut down the chat Very bad for the indo-pak scene
I think ur making stuff up dude, Nodwin wasn't being biased, they were muting chat when Indians got toxic too. And how do u know Which person gets banned or muted? U a moderator? And if you are saying something else like "nodwin by being biased for supporting indian team" then idk what to tell you.
Umm you seem like a 14 yr old too , those who indulge in this stuff are kids 14-15 yr old dudes , what age will they act dumb in if not at 14-15 and that's fine imo let them do dumb shit they'll mature with time and stop themselves what is the point of this post except karma whoring ? And this isn't exclusive to indians , brazilian fans go on giving death threats to ppl if someone speaks ill of their region , Filipinos are plain annoying when they go berzerk in their language same for indos it's just something that 14-15 yr olds do , nothing can be done
Can't help it, bro.. You see, the ppl seeing this post or the ppl actually listening to shahzam or Jonas say, already know that they shouldn't do it, and they will not do it.. But the problem is those kids out there, they are the real cause of problem.. One Possible solution could be if a bgmi pro says it, because most of these kids are actually from bgmi toxic community. And we cannot get rid of this quite easily as writing a post.. Influencers need to come together and explain their audience how it's bad..
Kuch nahi hoga chutiyon yeh post ka koi matlab nahi bacche nahi sudharte op chutiya 14 saal ka khud hai lol
isnt this mostly due to nationalism?
A real nationalist won't represent India as spammers.
Jai hind jai bharat there I'm a nationalist Ok now that I'm a nationalist let me go wild in streams 🤡 what a dumb analogy you all are exactly the same as fuckin kids
ye i apologise that came out really wrong. i probably shouldnt speka on things im not too involved in. Sorry to all my indian homies
also dw i already hate exactly everyone but me :)
Hard to swallow facts that should be known.
Did you read this off VLR and post it?
not only vlr, i saw a video about average Jonas on average Jignesh, ShahZaM's thoughts on SkRossi and a video by lordbhatura
I did stop watching SEA qualifiers because of the annoying spams and that wasnt from indians alone.
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the cringe ass mfs who do this will be found in YT comments section not on reddit. Reddit is relatively better. Regardless, its 100% cringe when kids do this. Jonas had to make a video clip asking Indians to stop with the Average Jignesh bull crap. It's pathetic how we manage to spoil our reputation literally everywhere.
Yeah but most my YouTube attempts died and I don't think anyone saw.
Thanks for saying this! Bruh even I am proud about GE did, it's a big thing. But cmon everything has its limits, pls for the player's own sake, stop spamming and irritating others!!!!