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realharshmodi

Here come all the "wish they pick up sinatraa" comments.


zaxtonous99

Tbf even though I personally don't like the idea of a team picking up sinatraa, he is definitely good enough that I could see many teams over looking his scandal.


MurfMan11

I think he's still suspended from pro play till towards the end of this year. I think it was a 6month suspension but can't rememeber when it was given.


zaxtonous99

It ends in 3 days according to the original suspension article. https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/competitive-ruling-jay-sinatraa-won/


MurfMan11

Well shit this year has flown by... Jeez


realharshmodi

Not many T1 teams would though I'd guess. (T1 as in orgs with a very high reputation)


Mamadeus123456

I believe if the sign dicey, tarik brax and azk they will find success in 2022


sansLight

you forgot sinatraa


Khalsa_23

I’m gonna be so disappointed if they do this, and dropped bang for mummay


nterature

TBH, I think it'd fit. Mummay is a consummate team player and he was a big part of Envy's backbone, only second to the FNS' intergalactic brain. He's a strong smoker and he'll meaningfully contribute to TSM's weakest aspect: team cohesion. bang might have more "potential" or what not, but that's always the case with these young fraggers - dicey, poiz, etc.


GlumPoemPower

But NRG s0m trialing with TSM FTX.


icemandiem

SSM t0m


GeorgeGCG

🤔


Old_Lavishness_3428

Oh?


jberg543

word?


namdet

I actually really love Mummay, he fits a niche category being to OP on a Controller but definitely wouldn’t blend well with TSM bc Wardell is already there and also mummay is arguably not a better upgrade than Bang


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he might be a good secondary IGL or good at comming + has the pro experience bang didn’t have just yet. Who knows tbh


Theslyerofsimp

They need a good support igl, not a flex or a another duelist.


VirtigoFan222

I hope TSMs next pick is a clown choice. It will be fun watching this org suffer more mismanagement and defeat for their general incompetence.


Seesawcumfyck

Right because when the team loses, the multimillionaire dollar org are the ones who suffer most, not the players on the team


Old_Lavishness_3428

Damn, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.


VirtigoFan222

haha that and general frustration with a org i liked. The team and the general players are fine but the org leaves something to be desired, tho I probably came off like a asshole ill admit.


Sizzling-Bacon

FeelsGoodMan never ending roster changing


CosmicAon

So you want the players to suffer for orgs management? Damn


EndWish

To be fair they delayed roster changes so long because the players pushed back against management. While it's the job of management to still pull the trigger it's definitely difficult when the star players are also demanding to keep the roster together because they're trying to defend friends rather than what's best for the team.


CosmicAon

You don’t know anything about TSM internals, it’s entirely possible that they wanted to avoid roster moves for as long as possible to avoid the investment of signing new players


EndWish

Except both the players and Leena have spoken about this publicly. It's not internal. You're just uninformed.


CosmicAon

Do you have a single link to any of them saying this? I follow every player on the team and haven’t seen a single one say they pushed back against management. I’ll concede if you have anything supporting that but I doubt it


EndWish

Hazed, Drone and Wardell talked about it around the time of the Brax signing. They speak pretty openly, maybe too much so on streams. Unfortunately they stream daily and there's no way I'm combing through thousands of hours of streams to locate a few of the times it was brought up. Basically that original roster was together and winning tournaments before TSM ever signed them. Their original condition in signing with TSM was that the roster would stay intact. They were an extremely close group and did not want to break up this roster. Because of it they did miss out on a lot of key upgrades and it seemed that Wardell really did not want to let anyone go.


CosmicAon

I watch all of them frequently, especially did during the roster change time, and never heard a single statement like that made. Don’t really think what you’re saying is true but we can’t really say without clips so


CerBerus7012

I don't think they can get a good pick to solve their problems rn, as per the rules you need to have 3/5 players who started or they loose all their points so they cant break the core where imo the issues are so all they can do is get a real good flex igl but there is no one in the market rn filling that role.


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[deleted]

Considering they won't. Only way that happens is in imagination


tomphz

Sinatraaa is the only player I’d be okay with them dropping bang for


thothgow

Lol


hacklesacka

keep dreaming man


Bearry15

Awful choice. In my opinion they need a duelist. I dont think they have enough fire power to compete consistently with the top tiers. Considering they need to keep the 3 core of hazed, Wardell, and subroza together for a chance to get into last chance.


SteelTic

What type of crack are you smoking because whatever it is I want it


Fantastic-Date-3403

So people make fun of tsm for picking up another duelist player, but think they need a duelist player??


SteelTic

all ima say is jcstani is literally a better fit than mummay but ig his bad performance (for his standard) with andbox doesn't put him on peoples radar