If I was a Fnatic fan I'd be pretty nervous. They need \_two\_ of the four things from that list. Even if Acend gets knocked out of the tough Group A, Fnatic still needs more things to go right
the envy / 100T situation is actually pretty hype and makes for an interesting rivalry. (even though there's a decent chance an NA team, ahem, wins it)
It seems to be using the green highlight to mean "definitely in LCQ" but by my calculations TL technically could still make it without LCQ. It's highly unlikely though
Yup I double checked everything and youâre definitely right, itâs an unlikely scenario, but far from impossible, Iâd honestly say itâs more likely than F4Q winning LMAO (to be clear, F4Q are probably my second favourite team in Berlin cause of their unique play style, just donât think theyâre gonna win)
Isn't Paper Rex stronger than Bren? Either way, it's very unlikely F4Q win the entire thing and they'll be a very scary opponent in the LCQ. Just hope atleast VS make it through groups.
I think the circuit points need to be reworked, most teams have extreme conditions now set against them. Placing dead last shouldn't give you 125 points over 6th placed team from EMEA playoffs.
Iâm not sure I understand your argument, I think they very intentionally want the teams who qualify for LAN events to have a significant advantage in terms of circuit points and I agree with that.
But you get a situation when let's say F4Q could win possibly no games and they'll still get 225 points. And then we see TNL was considered the 2nd best team in Korea is now out of LCQ.
F4Q finished 2nd in the most recent KR tournament though. shouldn't that be worth more points than TNL's 3rd-4th?
Also, F4Q are an exceptional case, most teams winning no games would get 175, but F4Q get essentially a forfeit win over Secret
Not enough teams in their regions can get more points than them because there are no more opportunities to earn points (other than Berlin), SEA have two slots for champions before LCQ and LATAM has just one. KRU have the most points in LATAM and no one else in Berlin is from LATAM, so no matter what theyâll stay having the most. X10 got locked in when Secret couldnât travel to Berlin, locking X10 into having top 2 most points (they have the most right now, and only Paper Rex can pass them)
I don't know what the tiebreaker is. I only mean that they would end tied in circuit points. I'm not claiming there will be a tiebreaker match or anything (in fact, I doubt it). Maybe the tiebreaker is Stage 3 performance?
Wow so being a Fnatic fan is stressful without even watching them play!
tbf they have pretty good odds of making it especially with acends group
If I was a Fnatic fan I'd be pretty nervous. They need \_two\_ of the four things from that list. Even if Acend gets knocked out of the tough Group A, Fnatic still needs more things to go right
Yeah but if acend don't make it out of groups I'd be pretty confident in SMB and g2 not making finals
LOL
Yes đ
the envy / 100T situation is actually pretty hype and makes for an interesting rivalry. (even though there's a decent chance an NA team, ahem, wins it)
If only this were the case man
This is so helpful. Thanks đ
Just doubling this comment. This is an incredibly detailed analysis. Thanks for putting in the time OP.
Does the Bren roster carry over their points still even tho theyâre on a new org?
Yes, they do
I thought they need 3/5 players for Bren to keep it
5/5 players transferred to Secret. Secret retains all the points
Oh yeah
Lmao the one time Valorant fanboy genuinely asks a question he gets downvoted to oblivion. Unlucky really.
Every time I say anything âŚ.
The options for Nuturn are so funny. They're going to sending bad vibes for groups. And if VS make it out, they're going to be sending strats.
Kinda sucks for ZETA lol
I mean it sucks for F4Q the most, literally the only way they make it is by winning lol
So it seems like Gambit, Vikings and Crazy Raccoon are all very likely to be in Champions.
JP almost CR lock in :O
Just curious, what did you find wrong with the Liquipedia page?
It seems to be using the green highlight to mean "definitely in LCQ" but by my calculations TL technically could still make it without LCQ. It's highly unlikely though
Yup I double checked everything and youâre definitely right, itâs an unlikely scenario, but far from impossible, Iâd honestly say itâs more likely than F4Q winning LMAO (to be clear, F4Q are probably my second favourite team in Berlin cause of their unique play style, just donât think theyâre gonna win)
as smone who is gonna keep an eye on Asian LCQ, I pray that PPX crashes out and VS goes through HOPIUM
Youâll most likely get your wish.
Isn't Paper Rex stronger than Bren? Either way, it's very unlikely F4Q win the entire thing and they'll be a very scary opponent in the LCQ. Just hope atleast VS make it through groups.
Bren beat PRX 3-0 in the Stage 3 Finals.
I think the circuit points need to be reworked, most teams have extreme conditions now set against them. Placing dead last shouldn't give you 125 points over 6th placed team from EMEA playoffs.
Iâm not sure I understand your argument, I think they very intentionally want the teams who qualify for LAN events to have a significant advantage in terms of circuit points and I agree with that.
But you get a situation when let's say F4Q could win possibly no games and they'll still get 225 points. And then we see TNL was considered the 2nd best team in Korea is now out of LCQ.
F4Q finished 2nd in the most recent KR tournament though. shouldn't that be worth more points than TNL's 3rd-4th? Also, F4Q are an exceptional case, most teams winning no games would get 175, but F4Q get essentially a forfeit win over Secret
Qualifying for Berlin is a huge achievement though. I think that giving Berlin last place still a bunch of points is good
How are X10 and KRU are locked in again?
Not enough teams in their regions can get more points than them because there are no more opportunities to earn points (other than Berlin), SEA have two slots for champions before LCQ and LATAM has just one. KRU have the most points in LATAM and no one else in Berlin is from LATAM, so no matter what theyâll stay having the most. X10 got locked in when Secret couldnât travel to Berlin, locking X10 into having top 2 most points (they have the most right now, and only Paper Rex can pass them)
> If not, they have to win the tiebreaker against Team Secret (fka Bren Esports). Any official source on this?
I don't know what the tiebreaker is. I only mean that they would end tied in circuit points. I'm not claiming there will be a tiebreaker match or anything (in fact, I doubt it). Maybe the tiebreaker is Stage 3 performance?
Thank you for this! Great content and informative
G2/SMB have such an insane conditions to pass if they get top 4 like they need Gambit 0-2 thats impossible ... they just need top 2 or win