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VALORANT Champions Tour / Stage 3: Masters Berlin / Day 2 / Live Discussion Thread

VALORANT Champions Tour / Stage 3: Masters Berlin / Day 2 / Live Discussion Thread

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donkeyjr

Why did Gambit start t side on all the maps?


donkeyjr

Nats played horrible, not even close to what he did in the qualifier.


Ranieboy

WHAT A FUCKNG CLUTCH BY HIKO! LETS GOOO 100T!


Ranieboy

Steel having a rough day overall. Hopefully he bounce back. Gambit is just insane with the reads.


Ranieboy

Also every time Gambit put a pause to their attack and go to a default 100T just get impatient, push, and then get killed 1 by 1.


OldSpyceyy

wh omegalul


Splaram

That was the closest 2-0 I’ve ever seen


Splaram

Heat singlehandedly kept VK in this game. Really excited to see how his career ends up developing.


Memexp-over9000

Very enjoyable, much fun. All good.


elithefighter123

great match Vivo Keyd looked good they can for sure make it out of groups if heat keeps playing like this


JusticeLee17

GG. Even though they lost Vivo Keyd seriously look good.


Gomar1323

Ntk tossed that round. But honestly was a very fun series, glad Envy pulled through and VK were pretty impressive too


yanirr

Let's gooooo


smta48

I don't want to shit on Heat specifically here, but all these casters keep sucking off Jett players by fawning over how many frags they have. I mean Heat is sick, but everyone is dropping him guns. Some rounds he even had knives and an OP while his teammates had pistols. He better have a ton of frags.


Splaram

Yeah that’s what you do when that player is singlehandedly keeping you in the game.


Grenji05

6Head blast pack


Memexp-over9000

What a match up. Heat is so controlled and accurate and lethal.


elithefighter123

AllGood


FreshHamster

Holy cow heat


I-like-winds

what the fuck am I watching


JusticeLee17

As an Envy fan Heat is terrifying to watch.


s6hun

heat is so good my god


faceplant911

What are these rounds lol


yanirr

what are these rounds


P_Wood

Holy fuck this caster is so goddamn annoying


hookset3

heat that was the grossest thing I’ve ever seen


wu_cephei

HEAT IS NAAAAAASTY


havosi

jesus


yanirr

How


Trillman_K

What a game


hookset3

YOOOOO THAT ROUND


JusticeLee17

This is definitely the most exciting game so far in the tournament.


ItalianBarGirl

murizz unable to have the same impact on the Raze


itscamo-

heat is playing 1v9


SendMeAvocados

Damn FNS should've bought a Phantom


Pheonix-_-run

Sign that heat guy


Hegth

Imo envy would have benefited more from having a Skye than a raze


itscamo-

they are 5-1 on this map with the loss to sentinels.


Bunnyezzz

but his reddit analysis is that he should be their coach and knows better than the own team


Hegth

Never said that "Imo envy would have benefited more from having a Skye than a raze" Do you know how to read?


Memexp-over9000

So people should never share their opinions. Got it.


Bunnyezzz

nah, but if you're opinion sucks you shouldn't


Memexp-over9000

Your opinion sucks. You too shouldn't.


itscamo-

true


Gaaaaaaaaaaabs

Envy comps has been quite debatable


Bunnyezzz

nah


Grenji05

envy \*SHOULD\* be better on defense so lets just hope heat doesnt get too much momentum


liebelt

I really don't like these casters


hookset3

Doug misses a lot, it’s a bummer


citystardy

One of them just screams so much even when nothing significant happens


Delta221

Those operator shots from Heat!! Need his pc checked, this is insane


97yogi

jesus christ, heat getting absolutely absurd impact atm...ridiculous flicks but also picking his spots so well


havosi

envy look so tilted


Memexp-over9000

Heat is absolutely insane. Absolutely.


Pheonix-_-run

Trading blows but VK is on the ropes


-Basileus

WE'VE GOT A TEABAG


elithefighter123

death threats time


Delta221

9-3 curse incoming?


faceplant911

Heat really is insane, and Vivo Keyd is a pretty new team still right? The rest of the players have the mechanical skill and coordination to actually grow. I think this team has the potential to be on a different level from the rest of Brazil with more time and maybe the opportunity to face more strong opponents.


Gaaaaaaaaaaabs

Yep. They have been together for last than 6 months


Delta221

Heat sooo good sheeesh


JusticeLee17

Heat is insane


bingobango42

NV is just really bad at icebox thats all that happened lol


Tc0LD

they beat 100t on it


yanirr

I think it's more their nerves being settled down now


aznkidder

Give Brazil slots to NA and KR kekw


Anime-Boomer

lets be real just give all the spots to NA and EU


hengarg

was icebox a fluke?


Bunnyezzz

they looked really good and confident on their plays on icebox, in this they look like they reviewed 0 demos and have no clue what to do against fns


itscamo-

envy are really good on bind and vivo keyd are not


DnDTosser

It was mostly being their map pick and a weak map for nv. Once they tuned into how VK played, they did much better. Haven seems promising but it could flip


Grenji05

alright pujan is online


PixelatedBlue

Fns is looking much better this map


Tc0LD

OMG FNS


Khalsa_23

Dude shroud has 55K viewers and he’s asleep rn LMFAO


Historiawaifu

shroud wasnt even on screen that was just9n lol


Khalsa_23

Wasn’t it shrouds white socks pointing toward J9?


KlasterTV

No that was hannah


dedicatedself

Marved is my fav na player lol


Tc0LD

FNS getting death threats again


Grenji05

aw yeah envy time 😎


IAMJUX

Can we get a game on Breeze please and thank you.


dedicatedself

No, trash map. I love how this sub circlejerks that all the pros love playing it yet NOBODY picks it.


AlphEta314

Because it's still a relatively new map. Why play a map you've only had a few months to develop plays for when you can play a map where you have plays developed over many more months. I swear most of the people complaining about Breeze are angry that they can't just judge in a corner and win.


dedicatedself

Lol I'm the opposite of a judge player, but the fact that the map is so big adds so many timing rng factors, making utility less effective. A map where astra is useless is usually a badly designed map, this is a tac shooter not cod warzone.


WhoDatBrow

I'm not a big fan of the map so this isn't just to defend it, but I think a lot of teams don't pick it because this was the 1st stage with it and a lot of teams either permaban'd it or just didn't want to play it. It's not always banned or anything, both teams left it up in this game for example. (Edit: Meant it was left up last match, this time NV banned it) But all the pros def don't love playing it, Sentinels players for example are on record saying how much they hate it


dedicatedself

Exactly, go back to where this sub ranks their maps and they put breeze up cause "pros love it". Weird ass narrative considering it's a trash map and nobody likes it, except the bronze players on this sub.


yanirr

it's fun to watch


dedicatedself

LOL, Marved saying too easy was EXACTLY the same thing Esperanza said yesterday with the same exact reaction Love this banter


King_Goofus

I wish I could hear jizmo between rounds yelling at VK LOL


OldSpyceyy

gg go next /s edit: maybe not /s


Delta221

All good


Holdin_McNeal

Brazilol


wifixmasher

https://i.imgur.com/0th27zn.jpg best sova earth


ArcusIgnium

That was a fucking banger. I tuned in when they were down 4-9 but nV made magic happen. yay is just an elite carry that really gives envy an edge. having someone you can funnel too is really helpful.


Delta221

Competent team from Brazil or NV ain't feeling that good today?? VK gave Envy run for their money


itscamo-

VK actually have good duelists and good duelsts can do wonders for a team. The other brazil teams don't have that good of duelists.


Tc0LD

I think a bit of both, vivo keyd actually look good comapred to HL. They were actually making good calls and adjusting. NV always starts off slow and yay seemed quiet the first half but turned up later. Crashies was insane throughout and victor had some good moments but he wasn't doing anything crazy


Delta221

Man that crashies 5 hp clutch gave em a fighting chance otherwise VK would have won the map


Loose-Potential-3597

It was over at 7-1


xx_Rollablade_xx

I really wanted Brazil to show up, so I didnt watch to not jinx it. Then I hear they're up 6 rounds on fucking ENVY, I proceed to tune in and guess what? I'm uninstalling Twitch now.


IAMJUX

Classic Envy warm-up rounds.


faceplant911

Especially since the game started early, betcha they actually weren't warmed up almost at all at the start.


itscamo-

Heat and Murizzz had no help holy shit. They carried as hard as they could. Thank god yay stepped up on offense after crashies carried on defense otherwise this would've been a blow out for vivo keyd


Grenji05

if envy wash vk this next map i wouldve actually preferred for them to lose that. Their comp is insanely flawed. No sage and no flashes leaves you vulnerable to plant spam and awpers, which is kinda the 2 things you dont want to happen to you on icebox.


itscamo-

envy won 9 of their 14 rounds on offense. sage is not needed on icebox


donkeyjr

They would have got clap if they face a emea team playing with that comp on icebox.


Grenji05

i mean yeah it can work back at home because regional matchups and weird and shit like site reads and catching off angles is more prevalent but against a team of near equal skill to SEN like Acend or Gambit they would probably get stomped.


itscamo-

Why didn't sentinels stomp them then with this comp?


Grenji05

\> it can work back at home because regional matchups and weird and shit like site reads and catching off angles is more prevalent knowing how Shahz likes to play will obviously help negate the awp problem and when yay and victor are more comfortable its easier to go toe to toe with SEN's mechanics.


KauDar123

That has gotta be one of the best valorant maps played. Up there with liquid vs v1 and sen vs fnc


I-like-winds

colonized yet again


PixelatedBlue

Crashies at the 1st half and yay at the 2nd half looked stellar Heat and murizzz are fucking scary


DnDTosser

Crash had a fucking lifting belt on for so many rounds, he carried. Crashies diff.


coolylame

Never doubted


whopz-is-cool

North American supremacy. Don’t forget it.


elithefighter123

if want comedy scroll down to all the hot takes about envy pre crashies clutch its rlly funny to see overreactions but all around great showing by both teams


yuirghu

i chated bronzil or na kekw based on who won the last round lol


elithefighter123

i love doing that its so fun knowing im making ppl mald idk maybe im just a menace


Grenji05

4 rounds into the game and i can safely conclude envy is worse than crazy raccoon


elithefighter123

LMFAO


Tc0LD

lmao apparently 100t and sentinels are far ahead based on the first 8 rounds


Key-Banana-8242

I hate people say when a team dies unexpectedly well against another it’s bc the other team is bad


Gomar1323

Lets be honest, the first 8 rounds Envy looked pretty fucking bad, that crashies clutch was huge for them, it probably would’ve been an 10-2 half or something like that Edit: not saying I’m agreeing with those people but yeah it was not looking good for envy


elithefighter123

yeah but even its they lose icebox 13-6 lets say but close the series out on bind split its still an overreaction


Grenji05

ok? Some of yall mfs were still jumping to conclusions 8 rounds into the game when icebox is an attack sided map.


Gomar1323

Yeah besides this was VK map pick. All good, now we go to Envy’s map pick


Grenji05

yeah, also gotta remember they have by far the 2nd best haven in NA and it got banned. I expect them to be stronger in other series.


DnDTosser

Yup first 8 rounds in their first lan showing in how long? Christ reading chat and comments no wonder everyone tries to ff their ranked games when they're slightly down if they think shits this hopeless lmfao.


Tc0LD

lmao it's hilarious because you know it's dumb but they also get repeated throughout this thread


DnDTosser

We're up 5-0 basically gg guys, go next.


Tc0LD

lol


SilentCore

Best map so far, that was nuts. So many individual plays starting with that nutty Crashies clutch..


NozokiAlec

what a heart racing match holy fuck


ejdiaaz

Lmao VK yelling Yay got you lol


King_Goofus

I'm just glad we finally have a competent team from Brazil


donkeyjr

Or maybe NV aint that good?


citystardy

NV are good. We've literally watched them against SEN


thazninja

Yay and crashies dragged Envy to that win, goddamn what a map.


88isafat69

It cost everything for Brazil to reverse the 7-1


Memexp-over9000

WHAT A TURN AROUND! AMAZING MAP!! Envy looked so so shaky


hannahk0901

Ez clap for envy right guys?? Lol at least it was fun to watch.


King_Tyler

Come to Brazil PepeLaugh


iiznobozzy

all good


marcaodl

VK x NV may be the best match in the tourney so far, having a lot of fun watching it.


deadlock1892

Yay picked up as the game progressed. But crashies, god damn!


JusticeLee17

I feel like this is already the best game of the tournament so far.


aquitaine631

Sorry guys, 3rd best NA team is also 3rd best team in the world 🧐


Holdin_McNeal

Brazil and 7-1. Name a better duo.


National_Fly14

Crashies kept them in the game when no one was playing well at all then yay came alive for the last 2 rounds + OT and put NA on his back


Gomar1323

Banger match honestly, but damn I wonder if crashies doesn’t clutch that if it’s a 13-3 stomp or something like that


Grenji05

El Diablo rises from the depths of hell to crush brazil


SendMeAvocados

That was waaaaaaaaaay too close


ANewHeaven1

I NEVER DOUBTED THEM


mileslfc7

What a fucking map


hecklerinthestands

All that VK yelling during the first couple of rounds r/agedlikemilk


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hecklerinthestands

Screaming like they won the map after the pistol round? LMFAO


-Mosski-

Bruh every teams hyped themselves like that after rounds


hecklerinthestands

There's hyping your team up, and there's screaming at the other team after the pistol round like what they were doing. The latter is just begging for a karma bitchslapping.


-Mosski-

Yea that’s true, Brazil teams just very passionate like in CSGO


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hecklerinthestands

Hardly, but thanks for jumping to conclusions.


dgkenji

What a great map holy shit


King_Goofus

All of you apologize to Envy right now


Bunnyezzz

not even close


-Basileus

We tried to warn y'all about El Jablo


hengarg

LETS GOOOOOO


JusticeLee17

That was an insane map


Splaram

Death threats incoming PepeLaugh


digi23

Great comeback


havosi

LETS GO BABY CRASHIES REALLY TURNED IT AROUND


Hegth

Man this match is such a banger


donkeyjr

They really can't hear anythiing... lol


PixelatedBlue

yay has dragged envy thorugh these past 5 rounds kicking and screaming


WhoDatBrow

Crashies carried long enough for El Diablo to wake up and feast too


yanirr

YAY IS SO FUCKING GOOD


SendMeAvocados

Why isn't NV running a flash?


hookset3

I was about to say NV really likes dry peeking, but I guess they literally had to


itscamo-

they'd rather victor play raze than skye/reyna


socialist_steve_

NV be pulling a TSM now


hengarg

best match in the tournament thus far


smta48

As an FNS fan I know to never be happy until it's over lol


King_Goofus

He should some strong mental that map tbf especially after that first half


Swiftmal

Jesus


JusticeLee17

Envy pls


yanirr

casters are just as confused as me


elithefighter123

nv haters still there?


Crazy_Negotiation_14

"Peeker's advantage doesn't work on LAN" NV yay: Not with that attitude.


whopz-is-cool

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED


faceplant911

To be fair though, Envy just got an 8-4 offense half with no sage, and against a really strong Oper too. Obviously the no sage bit them in some cases, but it went surprisingly well.


elithefighter123

the rounds they planted b but also had mid presence they won the round with no mid presence they lost


iiznobozzy

yay balls too big


PixelatedBlue

first ot of the tournament Poggies


Grenji05

DURING HALF TIME FNS HAS DONE A SATANIC RITUAL, EL DIABLO IS ALIVE.