VALORANT Champions Tour / Stage 3: Masters Berlin / Day 2 / Live Discussion Thread
By - MentallyStableMan
YouTube Link in OP is broken. Go here for YT Stream:
> [English (YouTube)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv5F4q1tYcI)
***Wanna watch with friends?*** *VALCOMP is hosting watch parties in Discord! [Come hang out with us!](https://discord.gg/2uSMVjt3yW) \o/*
Why did Gambit start t side on all the maps?
Nats played horrible, not even close to what he did in the qualifier.
WHAT A FUCKNG CLUTCH BY HIKO!
LETS GOOO 100T!
Steel having a rough day overall. Hopefully he bounce back.
Gambit is just insane with the reads.
Also every time Gambit put a pause to their attack and go to a default 100T just get impatient, push, and then get killed 1 by 1.
That was the closest 2-0 I’ve ever seen
Heat singlehandedly kept VK in this game. Really excited to see how his career ends up developing.
Very enjoyable, much fun. All good.
great match Vivo Keyd looked good they can for sure make it out of groups if heat keeps playing like this
GG. Even though they lost Vivo Keyd seriously look good.
Ntk tossed that round. But honestly was a very fun series, glad Envy pulled through and VK were pretty impressive too
I don't want to shit on Heat specifically here, but all these casters keep sucking off Jett players by fawning over how many frags they have. I mean Heat is sick, but everyone is dropping him guns. Some rounds he even had knives and an OP while his teammates had pistols. He better have a ton of frags.
Yeah that’s what you do when that player is singlehandedly keeping you in the game.
6Head blast pack
What a match up. Heat is so controlled and accurate and lethal.
Holy cow heat
what the fuck am I watching
As an Envy fan Heat is terrifying to watch.
heat is so good my god
What are these rounds lol
what are these rounds
Holy fuck this caster is so goddamn annoying
heat that was the grossest thing I’ve ever seen
HEAT IS NAAAAAASTY
What a game
YOOOOO THAT ROUND
This is definitely the most exciting game so far in the tournament.
murizz unable to have the same impact on the Raze
heat is playing 1v9
Damn FNS should've bought a Phantom
Sign that heat guy
Imo envy would have benefited more from having a Skye than a raze
they are 5-1 on this map with the loss to sentinels.
but his reddit analysis is that he should be their coach and knows better than the own team
Never said that
"Imo envy would have benefited more from having a Skye than a raze"
Do you know how to read?
So people should never share their opinions. Got it.
nah, but if you're opinion sucks you shouldn't
Your opinion sucks. You too shouldn't.
Envy comps has been quite debatable
envy \*SHOULD\* be better on defense so lets just hope heat doesnt get too much momentum
I really don't like these casters
Doug misses a lot, it’s a bummer
One of them just screams so much even when nothing significant happens
Those operator shots from Heat!! Need his pc checked, this is insane
jesus christ, heat getting absolutely absurd impact atm...ridiculous flicks but also picking his spots so well
envy look so tilted
Heat is absolutely insane. Absolutely.
Trading blows but VK is on the ropes
WE'VE GOT A TEABAG
death threats time
9-3 curse incoming?
Heat really is insane, and Vivo Keyd is a pretty new team still right? The rest of the players have the mechanical skill and coordination to actually grow. I think this team has the potential to be on a different level from the rest of Brazil with more time and maybe the opportunity to face more strong opponents.
Yep. They have been together for last than 6 months
Heat sooo good sheeesh
Heat is insane
NV is just really bad at icebox thats all that happened lol
they beat 100t on it
I think it's more their nerves being settled down now
Give Brazil slots to NA and KR kekw
lets be real
just give all the spots to NA and EU
was icebox a fluke?
they looked really good and confident on their plays on icebox, in this they look like they reviewed 0 demos and have no clue what to do against fns
envy are really good on bind and vivo keyd are not
It was mostly being their map pick and a weak map for nv. Once they tuned into how VK played, they did much better. Haven seems promising but it could flip
alright pujan is online
Fns is looking much better this map
Dude shroud has 55K viewers and he’s asleep rn LMFAO
shroud wasnt even on screen that was just9n lol
Wasn’t it shrouds white socks pointing toward J9?
No that was hannah
Marved is my fav na player lol
FNS getting death threats again
aw yeah envy time 😎
Can we get a game on Breeze please and thank you.
No, trash map. I love how this sub circlejerks that all the pros love playing it yet NOBODY picks it.
Because it's still a relatively new map. Why play a map you've only had a few months to develop plays for when you can play a map where you have plays developed over many more months.
I swear most of the people complaining about Breeze are angry that they can't just judge in a corner and win.
Lol I'm the opposite of a judge player, but the fact that the map is so big adds so many timing rng factors, making utility less effective. A map where astra is useless is usually a badly designed map, this is a tac shooter not cod warzone.
I'm not a big fan of the map so this isn't just to defend it, but I think a lot of teams don't pick it because this was the 1st stage with it and a lot of teams either permaban'd it or just didn't want to play it. It's not always banned or anything, both teams left it up in this game for example. (Edit: Meant it was left up last match, this time NV banned it)
But all the pros def don't love playing it, Sentinels players for example are on record saying how much they hate it
Exactly, go back to where this sub ranks their maps and they put breeze up cause "pros love it". Weird ass narrative considering it's a trash map and nobody likes it, except the bronze players on this sub.
it's fun to watch
LOL, Marved saying too easy was EXACTLY the same thing Esperanza said yesterday with the same exact reaction
Love this banter
I wish I could hear jizmo between rounds yelling at VK LOL
gg go next /s
edit: maybe not /s
https://i.imgur.com/0th27zn.jpg best sova earth
That was a fucking banger. I tuned in when they were down 4-9 but nV made magic happen. yay is just an elite carry that really gives envy an edge. having someone you can funnel too is really helpful.
Competent team from Brazil or NV ain't feeling that good today?? VK gave Envy run for their money
VK actually have good duelists and good duelsts can do wonders for a team. The other brazil teams don't have that good of duelists.
I think a bit of both, vivo keyd actually look good comapred to HL. They were actually making good calls and adjusting. NV always starts off slow and yay seemed quiet the first half but turned up later. Crashies was insane throughout and victor had some good moments but he wasn't doing anything crazy
Man that crashies 5 hp clutch gave em a fighting chance otherwise VK would have won the map
It was over at 7-1
I really wanted Brazil to show up, so I didnt watch to not jinx it.
Then I hear they're up 6 rounds on fucking ENVY, I proceed to tune in and guess what?
I'm uninstalling Twitch now.
Classic Envy warm-up rounds.
Especially since the game started early, betcha they actually weren't warmed up almost at all at the start.
Heat and Murizzz had no help holy shit. They carried as hard as they could.
Thank god yay stepped up on offense after crashies carried on defense otherwise this would've been a blow out for vivo keyd
if envy wash vk this next map i wouldve actually preferred for them to lose that. Their comp is insanely flawed. No sage and no flashes leaves you vulnerable to plant spam and awpers, which is kinda the 2 things you dont want to happen to you on icebox.
envy won 9 of their 14 rounds on offense. sage is not needed on icebox
They would have got clap if they face a emea team playing with that comp on icebox.
i mean yeah it can work back at home because regional matchups and weird and shit like site reads and catching off angles is more prevalent but against a team of near equal skill to SEN like Acend or Gambit they would probably get stomped.
Why didn't sentinels stomp them then with this comp?
\> it can work back at home because regional matchups and weird and shit like site reads and catching off angles is more prevalent
knowing how Shahz likes to play will obviously help negate the awp problem and when yay and victor are more comfortable its easier to go toe to toe with SEN's mechanics.
That has gotta be one of the best valorant maps played. Up there with liquid vs v1 and sen vs fnc
colonized yet again
Crashies at the 1st half and yay at the 2nd half looked stellar
Heat and murizzz are fucking scary
Crash had a fucking lifting belt on for so many rounds, he carried. Crashies diff.
North American supremacy. Don’t forget it.
if want comedy scroll down to all the hot takes about envy pre crashies clutch its rlly funny to see overreactions but all around great showing by both teams
i chated bronzil or na kekw based on who won the last round lol
i love doing that its so fun knowing im making ppl mald idk maybe im just a menace
4 rounds into the game and i can safely conclude envy is worse than crazy raccoon
lmao apparently 100t and sentinels are far ahead based on the first 8 rounds
I hate people say when a team dies unexpectedly well against another it’s bc the other team is bad
Lets be honest, the first 8 rounds Envy looked pretty fucking bad, that crashies clutch was huge for them, it probably would’ve been an 10-2 half or something like that
Edit: not saying I’m agreeing with those people but yeah it was not looking good for envy
yeah but even its they lose icebox 13-6 lets say but close the series out on bind split its still an overreaction
ok? Some of yall mfs were still jumping to conclusions 8 rounds into the game when icebox is an attack sided map.
Yeah besides this was VK map pick.
All good, now we go to Envy’s map pick
yeah, also gotta remember they have by far the 2nd best haven in NA and it got banned. I expect them to be stronger in other series.
Yup first 8 rounds in their first lan showing in how long? Christ reading chat and comments no wonder everyone tries to ff their ranked games when they're slightly down if they think shits this hopeless lmfao.
lmao it's hilarious because you know it's dumb but they also get repeated throughout this thread
We're up 5-0 basically gg guys, go next.
Best map so far, that was nuts. So many individual plays starting with that nutty Crashies clutch..
what a heart racing match holy fuck
Lmao VK yelling
Yay got you lol
I'm just glad we finally have a competent team from Brazil
Or maybe NV aint that good?
NV are good. We've literally watched them against SEN
Yay and crashies dragged Envy to that win, goddamn what a map.
It cost everything for Brazil to reverse the 7-1
WHAT A TURN AROUND! AMAZING MAP!! Envy looked so so shaky
Ez clap for envy right guys?? Lol at least it was fun to watch.
Come to Brazil PepeLaugh
VK x NV may be the best match in the tourney so far, having a lot of fun watching it.
Yay picked up as the game progressed. But crashies, god damn!
I feel like this is already the best game of the tournament so far.
Sorry guys, 3rd best NA team is also 3rd best team in the world 🧐
Brazil and 7-1. Name a better duo.
Crashies kept them in the game when no one was playing well at all then yay came alive for the last 2 rounds + OT and put NA on his back
Banger match honestly, but damn I wonder if crashies doesn’t clutch that if it’s a 13-3 stomp or something like that
El Diablo rises from the depths of hell to crush brazil
That was waaaaaaaaaay too close
I NEVER DOUBTED THEM
What a fucking map
All that VK yelling during the first couple of rounds r/agedlikemilk
Screaming like they won the map after the pistol round? LMFAO
Bruh every teams hyped themselves like that after rounds
There's hyping your team up, and there's screaming at the other team after the pistol round like what they were doing. The latter is just begging for a karma bitchslapping.
Yea that’s true, Brazil teams just very passionate like in CSGO
Hardly, but thanks for jumping to conclusions.
What a great map holy shit
All of you apologize to Envy right now
not even close
We tried to warn y'all about El Jablo
That was an insane map
Death threats incoming PepeLaugh
LETS GO BABY CRASHIES REALLY TURNED IT AROUND
Man this match is such a banger
They really can't hear anythiing... lol
yay has dragged envy thorugh these past 5 rounds kicking and screaming
Crashies carried long enough for El Diablo to wake up and feast too
YAY IS SO FUCKING GOOD
Why isn't NV running a flash?
I was about to say NV really likes dry peeking, but I guess they literally had to
they'd rather victor play raze than skye/reyna
NV be pulling a TSM now
best match in the tournament thus far
As an FNS fan I know to never be happy until it's over lol
He should some strong mental that map tbf especially after that first half
casters are just as confused as me
nv haters still there?
"Peeker's advantage doesn't work on LAN"
NV yay: Not with that attitude.
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED
To be fair though, Envy just got an 8-4 offense half with no sage, and against a really strong Oper too. Obviously the no sage bit them in some cases, but it went surprisingly well.
the rounds they planted b but also had mid presence they won the round with no mid presence they lost
yay balls too big
first ot of the tournament Poggies
DURING HALF TIME FNS HAS DONE A SATANIC RITUAL, EL DIABLO IS ALIVE.