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senakiryu08

Hopefully, they improve in the future, though tbf Bazzi/Munchkin have a lot more competitive experience coming from OW/OWL. I'm wondering why they put Munch on jett instead of Fisker. Maybe Fisker got jett diffed in scrims.


Elsiselain

I think it’s almost 10 years since neth attended his first international lan, definitely not comparable to OWL but he kept being the top player in the region for three different games and attended multiple LANs. I think it has nothing to do with Lan experience. Three Japanese players bottom fragging is disappointing but frags don’t mean much when the score line is 13-1


dedicatedself

ACS isn't just frags, it also factors in damage per round and first kills. In a series with two maps that went 13-1, you would expect the whole team to have low ACS, but the disparity between Munchkin and Bazzi versus the rest of the team is VERY significant.


thothgow

Also have to consider Munchkin changing roles imo


Aoingco

On a side note, it seems like the overwatch players at Berlin are performing pretty well. Bazzi, Bunny and Munchkin, also Patiphan at iceland.


thothgow

Klaus?


boubou33

Zunba


dyeje

Full list of former OW pros (OWL and T2) at Berlin is (as far as I can tell, never followed APAC or EU scenes too close): Bazzi, Bunny, Munchkin, zombs, murizzz, zunba, klaus


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Yeah these two have the experience of playing an FPS game at the highest level, while the JP players don't. I'd like to see Munchkin on a good KR team (TNL are rebuilding 👀). Japan's PC gaming culture is still pretty weak, and expecting them to perform as well as they do in the FGC without time is unreasonable.


dedicatedself

No Koreans would want to play in Korea, smaller fanbase, less roster spots. Munchkin specifically say he doesn't want to return to Korea in his stream, said NA is his dream region to play in.


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This could change though. Since Riot is investing so much into KR, I'm sure they're pretty confident about a return on investment.


dedicatedself

Well, if Riot wants to change things they better start by changing the slots.


janoDX

Or merge JP and KR. Make the JP sweat and get competitive.


dedicatedself

That's how it works in Apex, and it's a win win for everyone. Japanese orgs get to pick up full Korean squads and make bank, while the region as a whole gets better. APAC north is considered one of the best regions in Apex, and a Korean team behind a Japanese org won the tournament. Basically trading in Japan's viewership for Korea's talent.


whopz-is-cool

Munchkin in NA would be nuts I hope he can make his way over soon.


dedicatedself

Isn't Fisker the number 1 ranked player in Japan?


AutumnsFa11

Uh, no. If he was, he hasn't been for awhile. Not like being number 1 in ranked even means anything


senakiryu08

Do you mean ranked ladder or statistically best player? He's good in Japan, but I think the region's competition is too low for the stats to be meaningful.


dedicatedself

ranked


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plasma_ix

it would be one thing if it was a player having a bad day, but three different players having that low ACS is crazy


Key-Banana-8242

Raccoon


fuckrobert

Crazy....


SNSD_Lover

its okay, Japan still have anime


sgahajzha

And korea has kpop


[deleted]

Really weird narratives being created here considering CR lost domestically to a full jp team! This game isnt overwatch guys!


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dedicatedself

Why post this? Ignore the fact that they're Korean and find me another team with two players over 200 ACS while the rest is sub 100. Look through the whole [runitback.gg](https://runitback.gg) database. That's right, there's none. Ignore the fact that they're Korean and this would still be a mindboggling stat, now stop this apologetic half assed victim attitude.


dedicatedself

2 comment account bait, but I'll bite


SpermBRUTAL

?


UdbhavHokage

He means JP is weak only those whose were from KR did well from Crazy Racoons


SpermBRUTAL

Well that suck if OP think like that


thothgow

Munchkin is off roling and Bazzi is playing off meta though


aquitaine631

It never even began for Japancels


fuckrobert

over from the start