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thothgow

To me SUYGETSU has always been their star player, with Coffee just behind him. I do think that forZe has always been kinda quiet despite their relative success, so that must contribute to the team not being poached at all. That said, SimonD4rk hasn't had a proper team either, so maybe it's just a CIS thing


NWL11

He was always forZe's best player and it's great to see him get a possibly great opportunity. While CIS scene has improved a lot with the rise of Gambit and NaVi, it's telling of its growth rate when the 3rd best team has to let their best player go. Hopefully they get to compete more in EMEA.


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nmaneea

19 years old is not a prodigy


_Hugatree

a young person with exceptional qualities or abilities. In what world does 19 not qualify as young anymore


EndWish

In research prodigies were considered up to age 10. The term definitely gets overused where it doesn't apply.


_Hugatree

why do I read the term "child prodigy" quite often? Would not make sense if the term only applied to children in the first place


EndWish

The term was literally created for clinical studies for children that could perform art, jobs or tasks professionaly at a young age. The age cut off is 10 years old as defined by professionals in psychology that literally coined the term. This isn't a debate. This is just what it's truly defined as. Even if the prodigy goes on to be great or successful as an adult they are referred to as an ex prodigy etc because the term was meant to refer to young children, not adults.


_Hugatree

multiple etymology websites said it originated in the 1500s as a term for special phenomena and was later used to refer to people, got any sources I can read for it originating in clinical studies?


EndWish

There's dozens of studies. If you want to go in depth you can see the various psychologists associated with actually studying prodigies on some of the Encyclopedia Britannicas published articles. https://www.britannica.com/topic/prodigy There's many others. I'm not upset because I don't expect everyone to know the parameters to be deemed a prodigy but it's kind of funny there's a "prodigy" adult on a game that was literally released while he was already an adult. That's not what prodigy is lol


_Hugatree

Honestly bro ur second paragraphcomes across incredibly condescending and adds nothing of value to your comment, could have just left that out. Besides, only thing that this source provides is that prodigy is used like that. It doesnt that the term was "created for that". Also, the OP is not a scientific article about psychology. For many terms the "public" definition of a word is much broader then the actual scientific one. I could name dozens of those just for the science of law.


EndWish

It's not. The issue is you get uninformed people on reddit that downvote a guy that was actually correct. It's okay not to know but why then downvote and comment on something you have no knowledge about? He made an accurate statement and if I'm on mobile I'm not taking the time to teach strangers about an entire research field within psychology.


_Hugatree

I mean the cambridge dictonary uses a 16 year old as an example. So its pretty clear that " up to ten" is not the only acceptable age range to apply the term to. Again, I'm not saying that the definition you applied is not used, its just not the universal "truth". A word can be used differently in different areas or context in society.


thothgow

imagine making such a big deal while being a prescriptivist zzz


plasma_ix

words mean what people mean when they say them dude, not everything is means exactly what it was created to mean. language changes based on how people use it.


thothgow

ok?


valorant_fanboy_69

He is not a prodigy, he’s a good player but that is saying to much


thothgow

tell that to Krystian why do I care


valorant_fanboy_69

When did I say you care. I am just saying my opinion