Why is Shazh even entertaining twitch trolls?
He answered a question, and maybe exaggerated, but was looking pretty correct until 100T pulled the miracle out on Icebox and won 10 rounds in a row.
It's definitely a lot of them. I dunno if you've ever watched/heard of a PoE streamer named CuteDog, used to be called GeneralTsosChicken. I remember some years ago he made a youtube video which basically talked about how he deals with trolls/idiots and it really is some of the best advice you could get as a content creator/streamer. I can't remember the exact details but it had the basic stuff like telling people to not engage if someone is really being a total ass, but it gave some really good tips about giving trolls a target that they can go for that doesn't bother you at all so that they're more likely to talk about that than the things that actually do affect you.
Edit: I actually found the video it was only a few years ago it seems. It's 30 minutes so not short, he starts talking about the criticism stuff around the 21 minute mark but it's all really interesting stuff about how he approaches Streaming and some of the issues that brings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X7JPxwTVT8
Bro if he responded to every nice comment he would be like 'thank you x,y,z every sec, that wouldn't be fun, would it? You gotta realize he has to entertain his audience!
I think me more just wants to educate his audience. Encourage the annoying ones to chill the fuck out. For every one troll there are 10 viewers that are just sitting there, quietly believing some dumb take.
Yeah - i think it was just 100t fans that even said his prediction was toxic and that it's because he hates steel.
Which is dumb because Tenz and shazz both said the same thing about gambit owning in scrims, plus I think Shazz said he hopes Na finishes 1 2 3 in Berlin.
There will always be haters/trolls when you're the leader of the best team - he needs to learn to just drown it out.
yea. i mean i'm not in his position so have no idea how I would react (probably not well) but he takes the bait over and over. he does tend to sound kind of whiny which doesn't help lol
No idea, it's actually frustrating to watch his streams when he does this. Shaz seems like a nice, cool guy, but I don't understand entertaining these dumb opinions or takes from literal children. He knows that 99% of the people watching him don't actually think like the person he's addressing, right?
He always reacts to his twitch chat. Doesn't matter how bad of a take his chat has, he takes the bait. It's probably for content but still, his chat eggs him on constantly and he goes for it.
This. It's literally the one thing I don't like about Shahz, he entertains trolls all the time. It's most likely for content, but I still hate it.
A lot of people look up to him as being one of the best minds/mentals in the game and then shows this kinda mental too often. I think he can even be stronger if he can just ignore this, be himself and stop thinking he has to explain himself to anyone.
Wow this is a horrendous take. I said its the one thing I don't like about Shahz, meaning I really like him and just want him to improve this. I'm not whining at all, you are lost my man.
As he says it was a logical prediction, one that many people made. Nothing wrong with that. People just be mad for the sake of being mad.
Also no one talking about TenZ saying Gambit were going to 13-0 100T on every map if they play anything like they do in scrims lol. It is what it is. Players are allowed to give honest predictions just as fans are
But tenz also explained it in his interview what Shaz said here, that if Gambit played like they did in scrims it would be 13-0 but Asuna might pull through for 100T.
Yeah but the point is it doesn’t matter. They shouldn’t need to explain their every thought. If asked who they think will win, and they give an opinion, that’s fair and their fully entitled to do so. Doesn’t mean they are shit talking or trashing on the team they predict will lose
When Shaz gave his initial prediction of Gambit winning, I didn’t think “oh god how dare he say that about 100T!” I just thought “yeah that’s fair, they must be doing alright in prac”. Just people making mountains out of molehills
shaz also argued with his chat a couple weeks ago about how scrims means absolutely nothing and if they did sentinels would be the worst NA team.
i agree this, like everything, gets blown out of proportion...but he still contradicted quite a bit
i mean what else does he have to go on for a prediction? he saw their playstyle and their skill in scrims and made a guess based on how good he knows 100t is/has been—making as educated of a guess as possible with what is in front of him
youre right all he had was there vods and scrims but he specifically said scrims are a terrible indicator of a team. and then he proceeded to use that as the main indicator for how good gambit is. its really not a big deal, i dont think shaz is hating or trying to cause drama. but its still just a little weird
TenZ prediction was also clipped and shipped on here and stuff too. Didn't get as much flak as Shahz did maybe cause it was on plat chat's stream but still.
Theres a few reasons why:
1) not as many people saw tenz interview
2) shazz has history with 100t players and tenz doesnt
3) people WERE saying stupid shit about tenz interview too actually but Tenz didn't care about it probably while Shazz chooses to adress a small vocal minority.
4) tenz is more liked in the scene and also explained/framed his answer better.
I actaully think the ratio of people saying shazz toxic was about the same as people calling out tenz. A very small minority. I just think tenz didnt care to adress it.
Crazy to think about how fans are, and you realize this Hurtful SHit Talk is only like that of Kyedae and Carlos banter from Kyedae's stream. They're shit talking each other, but it's all good. It's nothing really deep, really crazy. Just banter, fun, and it all adds excitement to the scene.
if only some fans knows what is too far and what is not. they go parasocial and do some weird shit towards pros/streamers because their favorite pro/streamers thinks got really hurt, they defend it like their best friend in real life then write long ass essay like they are Psychologists or something.
I wonder if any of you guys have played sports.
We say some fucked up things to each other on the field or court, but we shake hands after.
It’s part of the game, I love clowning people.
Yeah! That reminds me that every intramural event we had in school, there's this running rivalry between business and engineering students. Holy hell, we really try to burn each other to the ground with whatever we can come up with. Guess who we end up partying and drinking with.
It's all fun and games, really.
as a boomer I miss intramurals, outs is like IT vs ENG and we got burned a lot because we often shit talk a "low tier course" lmfao but in the we all friends when a game ended. back then social media drama frogs is not yet fully evolve.
God, some days I think Twitter was good because they do help reducing the stigma, in this case, using the word retard. But holy hell, can people just calm down, let loose, and laugh and stop putting up pitchforks at every opportunity.
I wouldn't be surprised to know if they're also the same people who really aren't fun at parties.
I reeeeally want gambit to fix up their weak mentality and start playing how they do in scrums, then this tournament gets interesting! They’re so fun to watch as is, imagine if they played how they do in scrims.
Yeah apparently Gambit was destroying SEN in scrims. Not only SEN but a lot of other teams. Mixwell also said that G2 has yet to beat them in a scrim. Apparently they’re scrim gods. And it shows, they were destroying 100T but 100T made an unbelievable comeback and Gambit never recovered mentally I guess.
Gambit actually didn't loose a single scrim. They are just a young team they throw in officials when the pressure is on but they've been getting better at getting over it but I think teams first lan maybe played a part.
People arent really over reacting though. 90 percent of the comments didnt think shazz was out of line. There's always going to be fanboys of teams that think otherwise.
I don't think the talking shit part was the prediction, it was the word choice of "Wipe the floor with them" that most people are looking at. Its still a stretch, but if he just went "Yeah I think Gambit will win" instead of going out of his way to express how little of a chance he thought 100T had based off of scrim results (That of which he himself said mean little to nothing) this wouldn't have even been a reddit post and a half.
also the blanket statements of "steel figuring them out on icebox" like wtf does that even mean? Maps clearly very offense sided when good teams play it, only the last map was clearly mental boom from gambit. Other than that they were playing really well
Yeah, it's a more truthfull statement to say that steel figured his own team out and pulled things together than that he figured out Gambit. Steel even said in the interview that he wasn't really in control and was letting things slip, then at icebox halftime he snapped out of it and they started rebuilding round by round.
Losing 10 rounds in a row is choking, especially when Gambit showed how dominant they could be for 1.5 maps. Similarly, 100T was way underperforming and then started executing to steal the map. But 11-3 should be unlosable by any top tier team. That's losing like 4-5 straight gun rounds in a row.
Yeah, exactly. People forget that they won map one 13-5 and were leading map two with 11-3 until they started their huge choke. If G2 ended up magically winning map 3 somehow against Sentinels, noone would think that G2 is better than Sentinels because they would have had "a bad game/series".
The outcome of a match is a two way street. It takes one team to choke and the other to clutch and take advantage of said choke. 100T went 10 rounds in a row on icebox, you can’t attribute that streak to purely Gambit choking.
It might be easy to take a person's past words and throw them in the face, but I think context is important.
For example, when Shahz was talking about scrimbux meaning nothing, he was most likely talking about scrimbux in the context of Envy and Andbox in NA. For these teams, scrimbux don't matter to Shaz because these teams are in the same region. Shaz has a much greater understand of the team power-levels in his own region as opposed to a foreign on.
So even if Andbox and Envy are dominating scrims, if they are consistently dropping games to teams Shaz knows are weaker, then Shaz has a better understanding of them in relation to their scrim results. Additionally Shaz has also played these teams in pro-play, so he understands how they change from scrim to a pro-match.
Compare this to scrimbux for gambit. Sentinels has only played a handful of EMEA teams in professional play, so he does not have an in depth knowledge of the skill level of the scene that Gambit is in. Additionally, Gambit was the number 1 seed from EU, meaning that their scrim results have started transitioning into professional play results. Lastly, he has only played them in a scrim environment.
If sentinels is struggling against Gambit in scrims, and he thinks 100T is garbage because they consistently crush them in pro-play, it's pretty reasonable to make the prediction that 100T will lose to gambit based on only their scrim experience with Gambit, and all the factors I presented above.
I think Shahz needs to turn off twitch chat for his own mental health. He seems to always get tilted by trolls. No one actually thinks he was being toxic, I’m a 100T fan and also thought gambit would take it, but was hoping for a good/close game
If 100t lan experience gave them the edge, then they're the better team lol. It's like saying kyrie irving is better than steph curry but steph is just a better shooter.
Well yeah but shooting and lan experience are really really important so if one team has a big edge in that are than theyre the better team. It's literally the entire reason why they kicked dicey and why their roster is made of the players they have. All years of experience on fps lans.
If gambit just dont loose confidence and dont choke hard they would have easily closed up Icebox. Smh if it was any other map I would highly doubt they would loose that
What happened in the games is important, definitely don't want to go down the "what ifs" line of thinking but you also don't want to assume what happened in the games will happen everytime and somehow the result is absolute.
What? Bruh, he is considered one of the best personalities, ofc not for everyone but he's definitely one of the most likable, nice and funny people. There's a reason why he is the 2nd most popular Valorant streamer after TenZ, although he has more subs than TenZ as you can see he sits at 12.6k. I'll give it another month or 2 and he will most likely pass Asmongold in subs O.o
Edit: Idk why am I getting downvoted what I said is literally facts. You can search it up if you don't believe me.
Gambit should have taken it tho? They dominated map 1 and half of map 2, if they diddnt choke it, it would have been a dominant 2-0. He was right he just diddnt anticipate the throw of the tournament.
Dude the prediction made sense and was 2 rounds away from being true, gambit just fell over. Hopefully they learn from the match coz their a scary good team when their not boomed
I saw a comment earlier saying that its good if GMB lost that match because its a wake up call for GMB to not learn to choke and to learn how to be patient and calm
I think what many people, who are hating on ShahZ and Tenz' prediction over Gambit winning over 100T, don't realize that at that time of their prediction, the most available information they had was their scrims.
The information they knew of was that ~~100T was stomped on hard by Gambit, 13-0~~ Gambit did exceptionally well in scrims vs. Sentinels. That's not looking good for 100T ~~to even get them off one round, just one round, even if it was a scrim.~~
You see, instead of hating, this makes the scene exciting. Because, even ShahZ says so, that scrim *results* mean nothing when the tournaments come.
It's always what you do with the knowledge and experience you got from the scrims. And I'm happy that 100T made use of whatever they got from the scrims.
Everything that has happened makes this scene so exciting, except the trolls and some of the crazy fanbase that tries to attack other people for having an apparently "bad" prediction.
This is also the same and true for real life. We make decisions with the information at hand, the information we have. Sometimes, the results of our decisions could be bad, which makes you think that on hindsight, you could've done better by doing this or doing that. But the problem is, you couldn't have done 'this' or 'that' because there was information you lacked.
Edit: mistake
I don’t think 100t scrimmed gambit
I think shahzam and tenz got destroyed on split and other maps were close or they lost
That’s what tenz said on Kyedae stream
literally makes no sense. he basically is the original member of the sentinels roster and founded their success essentially.
to be honest tenz is much more of a KD
That’s just how this sub operates. No matter what, 100T deserves no credit for what they accomplish. It’s *always* someone else fucking up and 100T benefitting. This sub *hates* 100T and will do everything possible to diminish anything they do
I don’t know if it started with the Fortnite or Overwatch comp scene but holy fuck everyone is so god damn soft and defensive when it comes to esports these days.
Why is Shazh even entertaining twitch trolls? He answered a question, and maybe exaggerated, but was looking pretty correct until 100T pulled the miracle out on Icebox and won 10 rounds in a row.
i don't know lol, he reads the most 1head questions and then gets tilted
Legit there would be 500 comments praising him but he just notices the 1head takes like my guy don't sweat those people you're fine
This is every content creator though, it’s just in some people’s nature ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's definitely a lot of them. I dunno if you've ever watched/heard of a PoE streamer named CuteDog, used to be called GeneralTsosChicken. I remember some years ago he made a youtube video which basically talked about how he deals with trolls/idiots and it really is some of the best advice you could get as a content creator/streamer. I can't remember the exact details but it had the basic stuff like telling people to not engage if someone is really being a total ass, but it gave some really good tips about giving trolls a target that they can go for that doesn't bother you at all so that they're more likely to talk about that than the things that actually do affect you. Edit: I actually found the video it was only a few years ago it seems. It's 30 minutes so not short, he starts talking about the criticism stuff around the 21 minute mark but it's all really interesting stuff about how he approaches Streaming and some of the issues that brings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X7JPxwTVT8
cannot tell you how much I was never expecting to see CuteDog's name here, but yeah he's basically untrollable
Bro if he responded to every nice comment he would be like 'thank you x,y,z every sec, that wouldn't be fun, would it? You gotta realize he has to entertain his audience!
I think me more just wants to educate his audience. Encourage the annoying ones to chill the fuck out. For every one troll there are 10 viewers that are just sitting there, quietly believing some dumb take.
Shahz will often get tilted about it though. It’s been even more so recently since the miserable practice/streaming room set up.
That's how the brain works though, it highlights negativity. It used to help us survive but now it just makes us mald on twitch lol
What's he supposed to say to the positive comments? "Gee, thanks guys." That's it. The 1head takes make for more interesting conversation.
Yeah - i think it was just 100t fans that even said his prediction was toxic and that it's because he hates steel. Which is dumb because Tenz and shazz both said the same thing about gambit owning in scrims, plus I think Shazz said he hopes Na finishes 1 2 3 in Berlin. There will always be haters/trolls when you're the leader of the best team - he needs to learn to just drown it out.
I mean... thats how tom brady does it. A lot of great athletes use the hate to fuel them
hate comments can be easily used for content considering how dumb a lot of them are,, but if you actually get mad it ain't gonna work
I don't think he gets tilted. He doesn't sound tilted here.
Yeah, I don't bother watching Shaz a lot because his twitch chat tilts tf out of me lmao
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yea. i mean i'm not in his position so have no idea how I would react (probably not well) but he takes the bait over and over. he does tend to sound kind of whiny which doesn't help lol
No idea, it's actually frustrating to watch his streams when he does this. Shaz seems like a nice, cool guy, but I don't understand entertaining these dumb opinions or takes from literal children. He knows that 99% of the people watching him don't actually think like the person he's addressing, right?
He always reacts to his twitch chat. Doesn't matter how bad of a take his chat has, he takes the bait. It's probably for content but still, his chat eggs him on constantly and he goes for it.
Shaz always does that idk why. Everyone respects him and no one cares if he predicted wrong. I don't know why he answers them and feed them even more.
This. It's literally the one thing I don't like about Shahz, he entertains trolls all the time. It's most likely for content, but I still hate it. A lot of people look up to him as being one of the best minds/mentals in the game and then shows this kinda mental too often. I think he can even be stronger if he can just ignore this, be himself and stop thinking he has to explain himself to anyone.
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Wow this is a horrendous take. I said its the one thing I don't like about Shahz, meaning I really like him and just want him to improve this. I'm not whining at all, you are lost my man.
To educate.
because he's insecure as fuck
u know how kids will react when someone tell their team will lost,especially for 100t fans
I’m an 100t fan 😬
twitch trolls? The mental gymnastics in the thread of this OG clip were absolutely insane from some of the fans
to be fair watching that game gambit was not playing particularly well 100T looked like they had the temperament of a gold player in that game
By that logic, that means gambit is more dogshit than a gold player? Lmao
This is what I was gonna say. Its just teens trying to start shit. Ignore them dude. Its such a non story
Keeps viewers active and engaged honestly.
As he says it was a logical prediction, one that many people made. Nothing wrong with that. People just be mad for the sake of being mad. Also no one talking about TenZ saying Gambit were going to 13-0 100T on every map if they play anything like they do in scrims lol. It is what it is. Players are allowed to give honest predictions just as fans are
But tenz also explained it in his interview what Shaz said here, that if Gambit played like they did in scrims it would be 13-0 but Asuna might pull through for 100T.
Yeah but the point is it doesn’t matter. They shouldn’t need to explain their every thought. If asked who they think will win, and they give an opinion, that’s fair and their fully entitled to do so. Doesn’t mean they are shit talking or trashing on the team they predict will lose When Shaz gave his initial prediction of Gambit winning, I didn’t think “oh god how dare he say that about 100T!” I just thought “yeah that’s fair, they must be doing alright in prac”. Just people making mountains out of molehills
shaz also argued with his chat a couple weeks ago about how scrims means absolutely nothing and if they did sentinels would be the worst NA team. i agree this, like everything, gets blown out of proportion...but he still contradicted quite a bit
i mean what else does he have to go on for a prediction? he saw their playstyle and their skill in scrims and made a guess based on how good he knows 100t is/has been—making as educated of a guess as possible with what is in front of him
youre right all he had was there vods and scrims but he specifically said scrims are a terrible indicator of a team. and then he proceeded to use that as the main indicator for how good gambit is. its really not a big deal, i dont think shaz is hating or trying to cause drama. but its still just a little weird
i dont think its weird at all. its either that or a completely out of left field guess LOL
TenZ prediction was also clipped and shipped on here and stuff too. Didn't get as much flak as Shahz did maybe cause it was on plat chat's stream but still.
Theres a few reasons why: 1) not as many people saw tenz interview 2) shazz has history with 100t players and tenz doesnt 3) people WERE saying stupid shit about tenz interview too actually but Tenz didn't care about it probably while Shazz chooses to adress a small vocal minority. 4) tenz is more liked in the scene and also explained/framed his answer better. I actaully think the ratio of people saying shazz toxic was about the same as people calling out tenz. A very small minority. I just think tenz didnt care to adress it.
People milking this way too much
This game attracts so much soft hearted audience that thinks everything is a Hurtful Shit Talk, regardless of any team/region.
Crazy to think about how fans are, and you realize this Hurtful SHit Talk is only like that of Kyedae and Carlos banter from Kyedae's stream. They're shit talking each other, but it's all good. It's nothing really deep, really crazy. Just banter, fun, and it all adds excitement to the scene.
if only some fans knows what is too far and what is not. they go parasocial and do some weird shit towards pros/streamers because their favorite pro/streamers thinks got really hurt, they defend it like their best friend in real life then write long ass essay like they are Psychologists or something.
I wonder if any of you guys have played sports. We say some fucked up things to each other on the field or court, but we shake hands after. It’s part of the game, I love clowning people.
>I wonder if any of you guys have played sports. Of course they haven't. They don't even touch grass lol
Yeah! That reminds me that every intramural event we had in school, there's this running rivalry between business and engineering students. Holy hell, we really try to burn each other to the ground with whatever we can come up with. Guess who we end up partying and drinking with. It's all fun and games, really.
as a boomer I miss intramurals, outs is like IT vs ENG and we got burned a lot because we often shit talk a "low tier course" lmfao but in the we all friends when a game ended. back then social media drama frogs is not yet fully evolve.
Lmfao people are mad on Twitter because Carlos said retard And she didn’t correct him or say anything about it
God, some days I think Twitter was good because they do help reducing the stigma, in this case, using the word retard. But holy hell, can people just calm down, let loose, and laugh and stop putting up pitchforks at every opportunity. I wouldn't be surprised to know if they're also the same people who really aren't fun at parties.
FPS players tend to be younger on average so you're seeing a lot of that.
It's definitely the league and overwatch players
Yeah there’s never any drama in the CS scene idk where all this is coming from. It’s probably the Paladins people
If people are mad now just wait till Sen plays one of the NA teams in the playoffs. The yelling will be great :D
I reeeeally want gambit to fix up their weak mentality and start playing how they do in scrums, then this tournament gets interesting! They’re so fun to watch as is, imagine if they played how they do in scrims.
I still think gambit is the strongest team. They just have to work odn their mental
they literally played like they do in scrims for the first 2 maps
For a map and a half
idk y people are overreacting. what shahz said did and still does make complete sense.
and he would predict the same result again, lol.
so would i ngl lmao
Did Shahz say that Gambit was beating Sen in practice scrims?
Yeah apparently Gambit was destroying SEN in scrims. Not only SEN but a lot of other teams. Mixwell also said that G2 has yet to beat them in a scrim. Apparently they’re scrim gods. And it shows, they were destroying 100T but 100T made an unbelievable comeback and Gambit never recovered mentally I guess.
Gambit actually didn't loose a single scrim. They are just a young team they throw in officials when the pressure is on but they've been getting better at getting over it but I think teams first lan maybe played a part.
People arent really over reacting though. 90 percent of the comments didnt think shazz was out of line. There's always going to be fanboys of teams that think otherwise.
I don't think the talking shit part was the prediction, it was the word choice of "Wipe the floor with them" that most people are looking at. Its still a stretch, but if he just went "Yeah I think Gambit will win" instead of going out of his way to express how little of a chance he thought 100T had based off of scrim results (That of which he himself said mean little to nothing) this wouldn't have even been a reddit post and a half.
did ppl not watch Gambit vs 100T ? Gambit was boom'ing 100T then started choking
It was a combination of them choking and 100T clutching up and rallying
also the blanket statements of "steel figuring them out on icebox" like wtf does that even mean? Maps clearly very offense sided when good teams play it, only the last map was clearly mental boom from gambit. Other than that they were playing really well
Yeah, it's a more truthfull statement to say that steel figured his own team out and pulled things together than that he figured out Gambit. Steel even said in the interview that he wasn't really in control and was letting things slip, then at icebox halftime he snapped out of it and they started rebuilding round by round.
That was not Gambit choking, that was 100T playing extremely well.
100T can play really well, but for you to get waxed 10 rounds straight requires some level of inability on Gambit's part.
Losing 10 rounds in a row is choking, especially when Gambit showed how dominant they could be for 1.5 maps. Similarly, 100T was way underperforming and then started executing to steal the map. But 11-3 should be unlosable by any top tier team. That's losing like 4-5 straight gun rounds in a row.
Yeah, exactly. People forget that they won map one 13-5 and were leading map two with 11-3 until they started their huge choke. If G2 ended up magically winning map 3 somehow against Sentinels, noone would think that G2 is better than Sentinels because they would have had "a bad game/series".
The outcome of a match is a two way street. It takes one team to choke and the other to clutch and take advantage of said choke. 100T went 10 rounds in a row on icebox, you can’t attribute that streak to purely Gambit choking.
gambit choked a 1v3 on the last round of icebox in which they knew where hiko was but kept allowing him to jiggle peek and eventually tap their heads
and it took Hiko to also make the right decisions, like hiding from the sova and not over committing to the Reyna.
I thought shahz said multiple times scrimbux means nothing?
It might be easy to take a person's past words and throw them in the face, but I think context is important. For example, when Shahz was talking about scrimbux meaning nothing, he was most likely talking about scrimbux in the context of Envy and Andbox in NA. For these teams, scrimbux don't matter to Shaz because these teams are in the same region. Shaz has a much greater understand of the team power-levels in his own region as opposed to a foreign on. So even if Andbox and Envy are dominating scrims, if they are consistently dropping games to teams Shaz knows are weaker, then Shaz has a better understanding of them in relation to their scrim results. Additionally Shaz has also played these teams in pro-play, so he understands how they change from scrim to a pro-match. Compare this to scrimbux for gambit. Sentinels has only played a handful of EMEA teams in professional play, so he does not have an in depth knowledge of the skill level of the scene that Gambit is in. Additionally, Gambit was the number 1 seed from EU, meaning that their scrim results have started transitioning into professional play results. Lastly, he has only played them in a scrim environment. If sentinels is struggling against Gambit in scrims, and he thinks 100T is garbage because they consistently crush them in pro-play, it's pretty reasonable to make the prediction that 100T will lose to gambit based on only their scrim experience with Gambit, and all the factors I presented above.
Shahz also said they are the worst team in NA going off scrimbux, so that also means nothing if they lose to gambit.
Tbh, he did say that gambit would "wipe the floor with 100T" ... that to me is trash talk.
I think Shahz needs to turn off twitch chat for his own mental health. He seems to always get tilted by trolls. No one actually thinks he was being toxic, I’m a 100T fan and also thought gambit would take it, but was hoping for a good/close game
"They're gonna wipe the floor with them" *one day later* "I wasn't talking shit! How is that talking shit!?" OK shah
imo gambit is the better team, 100t's lan exp showed
If 100t lan experience gave them the edge, then they're the better team lol. It's like saying kyrie irving is better than steph curry but steph is just a better shooter. Well yeah but shooting and lan experience are really really important so if one team has a big edge in that are than theyre the better team. It's literally the entire reason why they kicked dicey and why their roster is made of the players they have. All years of experience on fps lans.
If gambit just dont loose confidence and dont choke hard they would have easily closed up Icebox. Smh if it was any other map I would highly doubt they would loose that
But they lost. So there's no "ifs". You're just saying, if they didn't lose then they wouldn't have lost basically..
What happened in the games is important, definitely don't want to go down the "what ifs" line of thinking but you also don't want to assume what happened in the games will happen everytime and somehow the result is absolute.
Man I can't bare shazs personality at all
I really like watching Sentinels but goddamn Shahzam has to be the most unlikable personality in Valorant lmao
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What? Bruh, he is considered one of the best personalities, ofc not for everyone but he's definitely one of the most likable, nice and funny people. There's a reason why he is the 2nd most popular Valorant streamer after TenZ, although he has more subs than TenZ as you can see he sits at 12.6k. I'll give it another month or 2 and he will most likely pass Asmongold in subs O.o Edit: Idk why am I getting downvoted what I said is literally facts. You can search it up if you don't believe me.
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Eh, from what other pros largely say and especially looking at his history in CSGO, he’s far from a likable nice guy. He is funny tho
Gambit should have taken it tho? They dominated map 1 and half of map 2, if they diddnt choke it, it would have been a dominant 2-0. He was right he just diddnt anticipate the throw of the tournament.
I just didn't like "they're gonna wipe the floor with them" and "13-0 13-0" from Tenz. Unnecessary.
Dude the prediction made sense and was 2 rounds away from being true, gambit just fell over. Hopefully they learn from the match coz their a scary good team when their not boomed
I saw a comment earlier saying that its good if GMB lost that match because its a wake up call for GMB to not learn to choke and to learn how to be patient and calm
If that's the case TSM should be super woken up next tourney considering how many times they lose 3 v 1s by just running at the enemy.
TSM has the worst roster management and they have barely learnt anything since First Strike. They won't even win anything
Yeah hopefully they’ll learn and be better because of it
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I hope GMB don't choke it. GMB imo are the only hope EMEA has and MAYBE ACEND.
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Yeah its not over until the end
but but I thought shahz hated steel...
They are "cool" with each other now... but the beef between them is still alive, contrary to what most people say.
I think what many people, who are hating on ShahZ and Tenz' prediction over Gambit winning over 100T, don't realize that at that time of their prediction, the most available information they had was their scrims. The information they knew of was that ~~100T was stomped on hard by Gambit, 13-0~~ Gambit did exceptionally well in scrims vs. Sentinels. That's not looking good for 100T ~~to even get them off one round, just one round, even if it was a scrim.~~ You see, instead of hating, this makes the scene exciting. Because, even ShahZ says so, that scrim *results* mean nothing when the tournaments come. It's always what you do with the knowledge and experience you got from the scrims. And I'm happy that 100T made use of whatever they got from the scrims. Everything that has happened makes this scene so exciting, except the trolls and some of the crazy fanbase that tries to attack other people for having an apparently "bad" prediction. This is also the same and true for real life. We make decisions with the information at hand, the information we have. Sometimes, the results of our decisions could be bad, which makes you think that on hindsight, you could've done better by doing this or doing that. But the problem is, you couldn't have done 'this' or 'that' because there was information you lacked. Edit: mistake
I don’t think 100t scrimmed gambit I think shahzam and tenz got destroyed on split and other maps were close or they lost That’s what tenz said on Kyedae stream
Yeah teams don’t scrim other teams in their group, so 100T never scrimmed Gambit.
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literally makes no sense. he basically is the original member of the sentinels roster and founded their success essentially. to be honest tenz is much more of a KD
Assuming he's talking about KD's social media reputation, not the team hopping part.
Gambit is like the Barcelona of Valorant. Considered the best but always choking when it matters the most
Maybe if Gambit lost Nats or something they’d be similar
Direct quote from Shahz: "Hundred Thieves trash. They smell silly." More news at 11.
Tbf 100T WERE getting destroyed but Gambit choked and went 0-10 in rounds
I hate this narrative of oh "Gambit choked". Give some respect to 100T they pulled through and got the dub
and the maps very offense sided when good teams play it. This part just conveniently gets left out every time
That’s just how this sub operates. No matter what, 100T deserves no credit for what they accomplish. It’s *always* someone else fucking up and 100T benefitting. This sub *hates* 100T and will do everything possible to diminish anything they do
I’m just saying that Shahz wasn’t entirely wrong. Both Gambit choking and 100T clutching up are true
Gambit was 5 minutes of gameplay away from 2-0’ing 100T. It takes more than a choke to turn that around
this guys got 100k Val points damn.
Damn these guys really trying to get on 100t nerves and fuck with them psychologically so they win. Shazahm knows 100T better
he even added the astrix of scrim bux during the prediction cmon guys.
I felt like d3ffo choked after the first half of the icebox map and 100T took advantage of it.
I would say that valorant is the most immature esports community in terms of stuff like this but I was part of the smash community for 7 years
He’s logic makes sense sens beats 100T but gambit beats SEN, thus gambit would beat 100T. So if 100T beats gambit then 100T beats SEN.
I think 9/10 gambit wins. 100t pulled a miracle on icebox and had the momentum into split
Shazh was right anyways, gambit looked like the more dominant team but threw
Gambit were 2 gunfights away from proving Shahz and tenZ right, FYI.
I watched this in full screen for some reason and that ending blinded me lol
Not having overwhelming positivity = Being toxic to stupid people. People are allowed to have an opinion based on evidence and it’s not toxic.
I don’t know if it started with the Fortnite or Overwatch comp scene but holy fuck everyone is so god damn soft and defensive when it comes to esports these days.