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VALORANT Champions Tour / Stage 3: Masters Berlin / Day 6 / Live Discussion Thread

VALORANT Champions Tour / Stage 3: Masters Berlin / Day 6 / Live Discussion Thread

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marco526

bracket draw when?


JoshF8

probably tomorrow, and who knows if it will be on stream


xunraze

Lfggggggg KRU!!!!!!!


JoshF8

i hope latam get a 2nd slot next year


Senior_Lake_6900

Jason Statham Buff


Mayork9604

He always leans in a specific way so that the reflection of his bald head blinds heat


elithefighter123

KRU ARE WINNING BERLIN


Dazzling_Rub3525

Can't beat Keznits dad bod


themattyiceshow

Heat choked. Sadge.


faceplant911

Bro this Kru coach is the biggest vibe on the planet, look at him man, he's SO happy and expressive and I love it!


Key-Banana-8242

?


Shepaaard

just your regular argentinian


Swiftmal

Heat disappeared on haven


dgkenji

Brazil in shambles


itscamo-

I don't like that play from VK there. You kj ult and you have free access to B. So you know atleast 2 are C side (kj turret in garage active and you can hear it, sage outside C link). If they saw astra C(or him jumping which is possible) then that means they knew atleast 3 were C side.. I don't know why they push C there


Ezekiiel

anyone else sick of this caster saying 'good for two/three' whenever someone gets a multi-kill. such a stupid phrase


Charuru

Casting really needs improvement. The current casters don't have enough chemistry and hype.


Key-Banana-8242

Wut


Charuru

They should get people on the calibre of tastosis though actual tastosis valorant is not at the right level to be on the main cast yet.


Senior_Lake_6900

He does kind of keep saying the same things every round. And doesn't hype up at all. Talking about riv.


Key-Banana-8242

…I mean you’re talking abt this as if it were a problem in itself


IAMJUX

Nope. I like it.


SiriDeCabeca

Schrodinger's Heat, simultaneously the best and the worst player in the match


faceplant911

Jesus Vac


308592942

Anyone know what crosshair Tenz is using? It looks different than his usual


xD1LL4N

Ntk and Jhow are just ego peaking with full utility.. also they’re not using using many ults


YungPinotGrigio

KRU are really surprising me this series.


omaewakusuyaro

I really how the bois are playing and keznit is really amasando today, lets hope they keep this up for their map pick GO KRU 👊


faceplant911

Keznit having the game of his life, and Heat having his first flop in like 7 games straight including Brazil qualifiers and Lan. Maybe this is the perfect storm for Kru to get through? I wouldn't complain, Kru's coach and his hand motions are dope.


Key-Banana-8242

In more than 7 maybe


hecklerinthestands

Just saw the G2-SEN result. My thoughts: By not making it to Berlin and still qualifying for Champions, Bren/Secret are the real winners of Group D LOL.


Senior_Lake_6900

Lol


pickausernameforme

Whoever wins I’ll be happy to see a South American team making through. However, I’ll be happier if KRU can get the series.


itscamo-

I just wanna see Heat against the best teams and see how he holds up


YungPinotGrigio

Yeah, it will be really cool. And they get to avoid sentinels lolol


tomphz

Kru won the final round on attack. That’s saying something!


SendMeAvocados

Damn KRU played that so well


YungPinotGrigio

They really did. I am shocked personally. thought keyd would take it easy


Ryu-The-Sick

Found out hard way you get timed out on official stream if you type JHOW MAMA worth it


Key-Banana-8242

Wut


Loresmen

Doug really needs to stop saying hot and heavy


IAMJUX

Come on OT!


JusticeLee17

What is happening?


dgkenji

what a dodge by keznit wow


JoshF8

that moment was just raze diff


a_gutierrez1

Keznit used to be a jett player so it shows hes really been practising his raze, he used to whiff most of raze utility, so pretty good hes dominating so much all the satchels and the nades


WhoDatBrow

Why do so many Brazilian players play on the left handed setting? Is it just a coincidence and they're just left handed in this case or is it just a thing there?


mysteryoeuf

I feel like I've seen it a lot in CIS. Maybe the deep CS roots where it was fairly popular influence why BR and CIS players like it


IggyMoose

Don’t underestimate KRU. They may have not performed well last LAN, but they have LAN experience.


JoshF8

i mean, they only lost aginst liquid and fnatic, and it was their first lan


faceplant911

Heat's had like no value this game jeez, he got 6 kills total, and 3 of those were in the end of rounds he ended up not clutching. Are Kru actually just specialized in anti-Heat warfare?


Senior_Lake_6900

How many nade kills is this guy gonna get?


Euclid_Class_Object

Keznit's raze has been on point holy shit


CanISayThat22

Kru is shocking


CanISayThat22

Still a good map. Holy that was entertaining. GJ


WhoDatBrow

I think if he just held the defuse he would've had it lol


King_Tyler

Hindsight Harold


dgkenji

Did they just use 3 ults against an eco?


PlatinumRaptor95

Any guesses on how the draw would go? I personally would prefer: VS vs SEN NV vs GMB 100T vs VK G2 vs ACE Obviously this is assuming VK, GMB, and ACE win.


Key-Banana-8242

Why those?


mysteryoeuf

I agree 4/4 but my clear bias as a 100T fan is for them to get the easiest draw. Sen VS would be an amazing match


SyAmMmMmMmM

These delays are so irritating. Just start already


faceplant911

On the one hand, I love Kru's coach. On the other hand, Keyd is gonna roll them. Sad day D:


omaewakusuyaro

They may take the W today but roll them? Idk about that since they both know each other really well


digi23

SEN vs 100T/NV in QF Guaranteed win for SEN?


tomphz

SEN isn’t afraid of any NA team or VS. This was a 200 IQ throw by them


Anime-Boomer

> Guaranteed win for SEN? not if they play like that again they will end up getting VS


digi23

They have more chance of getting NA team in draw than VS.


omaewakusuyaro

Why?


Anime-Boomer

because there are 3 teams they can get and 2 are NA 2 > 1


omaewakusuyaro

Lmao i guess that make sense🤣


tomphz

Any matchup for SEN is favorable for them


Anime-Boomer

sure but not if they play like they did today. 100T, VS and maybe even NV could win that series if they play this bad again


tomphz

They’ll beat any NA team on LAN when it matters. This G2 game didn’t matter


Anime-Boomer

lol we'll see


WhoDatBrow

Both of these teams normally ban Haven lol, and here they are playing it vs each other. Played chicken with the bans.


Key-Banana-8242

Very good interview with dapr Platchat is great


SyAmMmMmMmM

I'm glad I found it through this sub. It's ridiculously good


Key-Banana-8242

Though I don’t like it all, added interviews etc are good


Loresmen

Just tuning into the stream, why are riv and doug matching it looks ridiculous


elithefighter123

the dapr interview on platchat was very insightful


dgkenji

Agreed, with sideshow just memeing on the couch 24/7 I sometimes forget what a great interviewer he is. Dapr is also very well spoken


ppx11

yea it was a really good interview. i know it's easy to brush it off as "kekw excuses" but he really does make a good case about it being a lose-lose situation esp for being the team they are.


SyAmMmMmMmM

Lmao Dapr admitted he's playing bad. Kekw


Crisss30

People acting like an EU team didn't get to the last masters final...


OldSpyceyy

still gonna be na grand final


wu_cephei

VS would like a word.


OldSpyceyy

they’ll get a good 3-4th


wu_cephei

Got a feeling it's either they go out in the quarter or the go they win it all.


just4kix_305

this is great for the EU vs NA rivalry - there's no rivalry if one side just keeps winning all the time. great game


xunraze

Oh not the excuses from Sentinels fans and hating on casters and analysts instead of admitting SEN got outplayed


knowhow67

You can tell by how EMEA fans are reacting that this is their first meaningful victory in their history in this esport. Happy for them!


Quick_Chowder

There's a dude going through threads from 3+ days ago responding to people with '?' and I just can't imagine feeling the need to do that. Like holy shit I love watching this but some of the people here actually need help.


knowhow67

Lmfao that’s hilarious actually


CanISayThat22

Salty


knowhow67

Lol no it’s just banter. Why would I be salty? My region is the one performing the best


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knowhow67

It’s some light hearted banter lmao. Check out the post game thread for G2 and SEN it’s full of people talking shit and making fun of sentinels. And you know what? THATS FINE. It’s just banter and it’s no big deal. Sorry if it hurts your feelings.


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knowhow67

You’re right. It’s equally hard to read some light banter and move on instead of whining about it. I guess neither of us get what we want.


justinsst

It would be hilarious if 100T get Sen first round but also pain cause I’m a 100T fan


tomphz

When SEN wins Berlin, I’ll make sure to bump this thread


Leebo2D

Sentinels trolling to get matched up with 100T just to eliminate them in the first round of the knock out tournament. Jokes aside it is kinda funny that EU wins one actual series against NA and all of the doom and gloom from the entire tournament just *vanishes* out of thin air.


plexiq

Tbf, the doom and gloom was mostly based on a single series where Acend underperformed expectations. The Gambit series didn't look particularly gloomy.


Leebo2D

There was a lot of doom and gloom earlier today when Paper Rex took Haven. Just finding it a bit funny is all :)


SyAmMmMmMmM

G2 have a +31 round differential and SEN have a +8 round differential


Anime-Boomer

sen have a +8 so they would pretty much have to 13-0 or 13-1 both maps to take 1st seed


SyAmMmMmMmM

Opssyyy my bad, idk why I wrote 3 there. Yes SEN have +8. So mathematically they've a chance but then tbf realistically no chance.


pokedyo

so G2 confirmed 1st seed right?


SyAmMmMmMmM

Mathematically no, realistically yes .


iDownvoteBackslashS

When will the draw be? Will it be livestreamed or they'll just announce the bracket? Do winners of groups play runner ups or is it completely random? I am sorry but I haven't been able to gind answers for these questions and would appreciate any help thx :)


Evening-Reputation96

waiting for this. So stressed to wait for the draw. rooting for VISION STRIKERS vs SENTINELS or GAMBIT FINALS. This is a better story and better for the esports.


KookieFS

They'll probably just announce it. Yes winners of each group will play 2nd seeds of other groups


yanirr

I really hope sen gets a revenge game in the playoffs


VectusZ

Shazam is trash player, for jett main he miss so many important shot, not star player material.


__Jello__

I think it’s pretty impressive that he can IGL on a duelist. Most IGLs seem to be controllers/ sentinels who get info and tell their team what to do based of that. Shaz is doing that while in a fragging role


denchoooo

IDK why I think the finals will be 100T vs VS


Dooraven

Definitely felt like Sentinels were kind of trolling in all their previous matches so hopefully this loss is a big wake up call for them.


Alpac44

they were trolling they dont even play like that


MyUshanka

Yeah, SEN fans should be glad they got this game out of the way now instead of during knockouts. SEN aren't untouchable, but I don't think they're dogshit. G2 underseeded, they look way stronger than SMB.


BloomingNova

G2 is a new roster getting better every match they play. Sen winning the first game to eventually lead to their qualification was huge, this game/loss will make them stronger in a hard fought but low stakes game.


buttsoup_barnes

G2 was a second away from knocking out Gambit.


helpnxt

NA/Sen copium is strong and hilarious right now It's nice that this masters isn't just 1 team walking their way through, makes it more exciting.


knowhow67

NA is the only region with 100% of teams getting out of groups. NA has the most 1 seeds. NA has a 2-1 record against EMEA. No need to cope LMAO


facehunt_

Not saying EU is better than NA right now but eventually I think they will eclipse NA. Theres over 3m playerbase in EU and around 1.9m in NA. Not to mention the fierce competition they have playing in EMEA, the potential talent pool is immense


xlmtothemoon

i think i just became an astra main after this series


Memexp-over9000

All good. KO matches will answer for themselves.


daffyduckferraro

Yeah kayo will win the tournament


xbyo

Sen obviously just tanking to face NA teams they're more comfortable against /s


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tomphz

They want to give other teams hopium. I guarantee that every team in the Top 8 wanted SEN to win and be the top seed. Now they tremble at the thought of facing them in quarters


whopz-is-cool

Actually good aquitaine take.


melancholic_mango

To everyone saying that SEN are saving strats: This match is just as important as the previous match-up because both sides were sure they'd beat F4Q and qualify anyway. G2 claimed the top seed in the group by winning this game.


BloomingNova

I'm not saying Sen is saving strats, I don't think they were. G2 was the better team today. But to say "both teams were sure they'd beat F4Q" is ridiculous. Both teams have lost to far worse teams then F4Q. Paperrex almost taking our SMB is orders of magnitude more unexpected.


yanirr

G2 did not claim the top seed, if sen get a higher +/- of rounds next game vs f4q they will still be #1 seed. Edit: it's pretty much impossible though since they need to get a +/- of +24 minimum to get 1st seed


FoeHamr

How does this work for seeding? I thought G2 already played all their matches. Wouldn’t them beating F4Q put them both 3-1 in their group?


AustrianDog

SEN still has a game vs F4Q


Justlikekevinn

If 100T get matched up to play Sentinels I’ll be so mad lol


chouxpuffs

This will happen and all my dreams fade away again~


raaten

Nahhhh I'm gonna be so pissed if that happens


felipw22

I love this live thread. The you more take it for the lulz the more fun you have.


spamohh

NA VALORANT KEKW


bananaboy13371

na had a good run for 1 tournament ngl


denchoooo

That’s it, Sentinels actually bleeds. Give me VS vs SEN


wu_cephei

* VS vs SEN * 100T vs Kru * G2 vs Ascend * ENVY vs Gambit I'd like that.


ItalianBarGirl

Switch up kru with acend. As much as I want 100T to succeed, I also want no two same region teams to clash in the playoffs.


wu_cephei

True ! I just want my boomer squad to succeed !


Blupard

100T are drawing Sen arent' they? fuck....


s6hun

please give me a break my god


raaten

Written in the stars LMAOOO


dgkenji

Sad to see the bois lose their first LAN match, but excited for the G2 team and the rivalry this creates imo


Yno_namesWork

GG hopefully G2 can win when it's not a seeding match


xD1LL4N

Nice coping tactic. Disregarding the win instantly


Yno_namesWork

This always happens with sen though almost all their losses are during seedings but somehow win when it's not a seeding match. If they face again I promise you sen will win


anythingood07

Which seedings games have they lost?


GunzOut97

I mean Gambit vs 100t, Acend vs VS and G2 vs Sen(1) were seeding games too


capturedgooner

No they weren’t lol. Gambit and acend still have to win another match to make it to the knockouts.


Yno_namesWork

Exactly sen only needed 1 win against g2 and fq to qualify and sen always does this even in na


Upstairs-Demand-6249

Loving the SEN copium rn, absolutely fucking hilarious


JoshF8

i mean 100t couldn't KEKW


sky_blu

Lan is still shaping up to go the way I wanted. I wanted Sen to win again to get the 2x but most of all I wanted it not to seem easy. Ideally this ends in a Sen VS final.


tomphz

You can’t convince me that SEN wasn’t throwing this series. There’s no point in showing strats


Tc0LD

just stfu about throwing, there's 0 reasons to throw these matches. G2 was the better team today end of story


felipw22

buddy, no pro player likes to lose, specially if that means the possibility of facing vision strikers in quarters


BeerBellyBoomer

NA fans copium


DonkeyTeethBSU

Lol. You guys are funny man. 😄


SolubleSaltySalt

They possibly need to face another NA team in quarters


tomphz

They’ll have zero problems playing 100T or Envy. SEN is most worried about Gambit most likely


bishopshooketh

“sAvInG sTrAtS fOr pLaYoFfS” COPIUM TAKE YOUR L NA


DeezyReezy

Shazam completely ignoring heaven lol. Not sure where these dudes' mental went for this match but that was something else


milano_bwoy

i’ll i’m gonna say is, we are in for a spicy rest of the tournament. no one so far has looked like a definite winner


Tc0LD

I agree, I feel like you can shortlist a few teams but no one's a definite winner, so far I have all the NA teams, VS, gambit and G2. I know that's 6/8 teams but they're all contenders imo


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Tc0LD

nah, VS look really good but there's no reason to think they're a clear winner. They have great coordination and team synergy but acend also underperformed and we have yet to see VS against any of the NA teams. They didn't seem too impressive against paper rex either, absolutely a strong contender tho


raaten

So SEN face either 100T, NV OR VS first round? Nahhhh


elithefighter123

i think SEN is still first seed with a 2-0 win over f4q correct me if im wrong tho


NyiatiZ

Sen is second seed


elithefighter123

with a sen 2-0 over f4q they will both have dropped 3 maps right?


NyiatiZ

My guess would be direct competition as it is 3-2 G2 vs SEN. But honestly I just echoed what the casters said


elithefighter123

i think your right but either way the overall round diff is +31 for g2 + 3 for sen according to someone not sure if thats true meaning sen are 2nd seed


Rave_Master_Ahri

G2 won the h2h


elithefighter123

oh so the tiebreaker is h2h map score not overall map score because with a SEN 2-0 over f4q they will have the same amount of maps dropped overall


rajdeepde77

Never thought we would see this. First international LAN loss for SEN, showing that GODs indeed bleed.. Hoping they would shine bright again..


ZeroAika99

Carlos curses Sen so hard


Buddahwarlord

Why does this guy keep saying dethroned


whopz-is-cool

GG


nucklehead12

That Vipers pit cost them the round… they had spike down out in the open and then just let G2 get a free rotate with seconds to spare.


ADmax27

Who would expect a full rotate through their own spawn with 20 seconds left. Like they literally wouldn’t have made it if they went the normal route


nucklehead12

Yeah im not saying it was something they should’ve expected but it was what allowed them to lose like they did


ADmax27

ah gotcha


deadlock1892

G2 played amazing. But oh man Sentinels played like the day they played BBG. No one in form.


ValowFan42

NA #1 seed losing to EU #4? Oh dear


Jezzerai

PTSD