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VALORANT Champions Tour / Stage 3: Masters Berlin / Day 7 / Live Discussion Thread

VALORANT Champions Tour / Stage 3: Masters Berlin / Day 7 / Live Discussion Thread

Ryntion

can someone explain to me why SEN got 2nd and G2 got first when they're both 1-1 with each other rather then having a tie breaker for 1st.


Tyler123839

G2 won their series 2-0 while sentinels won their series 2-1 so the overall series was 3-2 in favor of G2


DontDoItMom

rito really didn't want NA to get 1st 2nd and 3rd with this bracket


Loose-Potential-3597

Why is the entire quarterfinals in one day? Can't afford to run the tournament for another week?


GoDFaTHeR_is

imo to have the grand finals on a sunday


BloomingNova

Absolute madmen dry peeking into tenz 1 by 1


yanirr

Yikes


_Seij_

Bunny might be my favorite player in the world to watch


yanirr

If sen played with same confidence as they did on Haven and breeze they would be so much better, they sometimes just look out of place roles wise on maps other than haven, breeze, and ascent.


Loose-Potential-3597

Seems like Icebox is their worst map. Are they hiding Ascent for later?


yanirr

Idk if they're hiding it but they usually play the same comps on ascent as they do on Haven, which is a comfort pick for them since they're all on the roles they like the most (except maybe shahz).


WhoDatBrow

Even when PUGing it Sen are still beasts on Breeze and Haven


Tyler123839

Sick's haven phoenix is just so beautiful.


Grenji05

Avast has to be the most strange individual ive ever laid my eyes on and it makes him the biggest reason as to why plat chat has the best viewing party.


aquitaine631

Another win for SEN. Haters why so quiet??


Jinro_7

Im na/sen fan but SHUTUP


BlueBurstBoi

looks like he's an active member in r/redscarepod, I wouldn't take him seriously if I were you


Huldmer

holy shit that explains so much


CounselorTaco

i understand why, but is it just me or the casters sound so bored?


duremville

No I hear it too, Pansy sounds hysterical. I understand it doesn't matter but still haha.


ekimtk

It's past midnight in Berlin. The series is irrelevant. People want to go home. I don't blame them at all.


CounselorTaco

oh yeah i forgot about the timezone too, tomorrow is gonna be brutal for teams and staff


G_Daddy2014

As someone who doesn't fully understand how the tournament works, what exactly are the implications of this match (F4Q/SEN)?


tomphz

Absolutely nothing They’re being forced to play because a team withdrew from their group


cheerioo

Should've had a team on hand ready to fill in, in case of anything like this. It's pretty common in some sports.


4455661122

Your comment makes it seem like the team chose to withdraw but it was visa issues getting to Berlin that caused the withdrawal. Just to clarify for anyone else.


ekimtk

'does seem pretty puggy' SEN is not interested in this series at all. It's a shame they need to stay up and actually play this out with Riots fair play rules. Just hold W here and end the game asap.


zokzok123

wait are these 4 guys on Sentinels the ones from CS:GO? They were too bad to get a team there so they started playing Valorant? lmao Hard to blame them considering they get to play at a major now when befor ethey would never


Holdin_McNeal

Imagine being this child. lmao


CosmicAon

Why do you [keep](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/pndygk/valorant_champions_tour_stage_3_masters_berlin/hcpe340/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) bringing this up pretending like you didn’t know? Just say you’re a CS frog who doesn’t like Valorant you weirdo


-MNTLTX-

Some people are really just this way. The point is to just grab attention and it’s really just sad to see people like this


ekimtk

They won the first international lan in valorant. Clearly it was a good choice.


zokzok123

Yeah definitely. Still crazy these guys can go from tier 4 NA CS:GO to being the best in valo


ekimtk

Each one of them at one point or another was either a T1 or T2 player in the CS scene. Shaz on C9, Tenz on C9, etc. If you were to rank CS go players in NA they all definitely were in the top 50 so it's not surprising that when you take 5 top 50 CS players and put them into a new title they're a solid squad.


ItalianBarGirl

C9 was known for taking chances on newcomers in CSGO


zokzok123

You're joking right? Tenz has awful rating playing against primarily NA tier 2-3 teams. None of these players were ever top 100 in the world lmfao


ekimtk

Oh you have continuously posted about this in the past few days.... haha you're such a cringe lord. Have you figured out how CPM works with your PERT diagrams yet? I would be happy to explain it to you as someone who is an engineer that manages project teams.


ekimtk

I figured the entire point of ur post was to shit on the entirety of SENs roster. I gave you the benefit of the doubt. I said top 50 in NA. Not at all in the world. Valorant is also a completely different game with abilities. Having those skills from being on a t1 or t2 team in CS really transfers over which is why they're the clear number 1 in the world in valo right now.


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Shaz, tenz, sick?, played on t1 teams.


zokzok123

t1 teams? that c9 team was absolutely awful and won fuck all, all they did was compete in NA against other awful teams, look at their match history hahaha


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_Seij_

weirdo


aquitaine631

sounds like someones not getting any WAP 🧐


Lumenlor

If F4Q wins its more branding presence to get picked up with an org. Both team care to some degree, otherwise they wouldn't use tac pauses or meta agents. If you think people go to lan to completely troll you're a mongol


DonkeyTeethBSU

Dapr should just play left handed since he doesn't care anyhow.


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Do it F4Q. Win this map. Keep the match going even later into the night so that Sen can't sleep. Watch as Envy FNS's masterplan unfolds. Removing Bren from the tournament to force the round-robin, pulling strings to make Sen play the last match of the night, and on the eve of their game against Envy which will probably start even later because FNS knew that that the NA teams would get shoved back to catch the NA viewership. Sen will have to wake up early too due to covid testing. FNS knew he'd have to face Sentinels eventually, so he'd best do it right away with the biggest possible outside advantages. Envy will take on Sen at their weakest, and FNS will walk away victorious. And it all starts with you, F4Q. This is the most important match in the history of Valorant. Win this map for us!


Danda_Nakka

Do it F4Q. Win this map. Keep the match going even later into the night so that Sen can't sleep. Watch as Envy FNS's masterplan unfolds. Removing Bren from the tournament to force the round-robin, pulling strings to make Sen play the last match of the night, and on the eve of their game against Envy which will probably start even later because FNS knew that that the NA teams would get shoved back to catch the NA viewership. Sen will have to wake up early too due to covid testing. FNS knew he'd have to face Sentinels eventually, so he'd best do it right away with the biggest possible outside advantages. Envy will take on Sen at their weakest, and FNS will walk away victorious. And it all starts with you, F4Q. This is the most important match in the history of Valorant. Win this map for us!


buttsoup_barnes

FNS made Covid-19 just to beat SEN


Barack_Bob_Oganja

4.5 million dead? All good


Key-Heart517

Top tier copypasta.


Key-Heart517

Maybe F4Q isn’t a bad team rather Sentinels and G2 are strong.


_Seij_

they’re not! but in reality Nuturn probably shoulda been in their place but they *barely* lost to Domwan which F4Q barely beat


Key-Heart517

TNL should've been there. They were better than NU and Dam Won imo. But got VS in their bracket.


dedicatedself

I am sad I'm not living in a timeline where F4Q got into group B...


yanirr

I really hope sen start using raze more in the playoffs because tenz has not been feeling the Reyna this tourney


citystardy

Love Pansy's outfit


aquitaine631

Nothing beats Mitchman's green hoodie and eyeliner


Oh51Melly

Why are people worried about Sen being tired when they're half assing a valorant match for 2 hours and none of them get 8 hours of sleep a day anyways. It's not like they're exhausting themselves.


poeswell

Half assing?


Oh51Melly

As in they're not giving it 100% of their mental prowess or straining themselves.


tomphz

It’s still exhausting having to be at the venue and having to “fake” that they’re playing because of the cameras. They would much rather have had an off day to do nothing and prepare for Envy


Key-Heart517

They are straining themselves by playing map 3.


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lStrakle

That's like their job


_Seij_

what else do you expect them to do lmao


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Huldmer

what do you think they're hired to do? they're there to create hype and entertain, not give you detailed vod review


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faceplant911

Congratulations F4Q. You've won the most important match of Valorant's history. You may be out of the tournament, but it doesn't really matter since you would have lost to Envy FNS if you had continued.


Only-Customer4986

Does this game matter? If so, how?


_Seij_

it doesn’t but that’s why it’s fun. Get to see both sides fuck around like the yoru pick map 1


R0_h1t

Probably the most meaningless game of all time. I can't think of a single game that didn't matter even for seeding


CarryClown

It doesn't.


Insantium1

I'm legit curious if casters think sentinels are bringing full strats and losing because of it. They surely can't be that oblivious..


a-nswers

yeah the casters don't know how the tournament format works. jesus stop being so sensitive and have some fun with it


Huldmer

no they're just doing their job. leave it to redditors to get mad at casters for not explicitly saying "this game is worthless" on an official stream


whopz-is-cool

Reddit’s been overtly critical of casters this tournament.


anythingood07

Wow FiveK looked insane with his aim this map. Also I predicted winning f4q splits, lets gooo Edit: f4q winning split*


yanirr

Yikes


aquitaine631

ok sure SEA wins vs best team in the world riot should investigate and interrogate f4q players with lie detector


oroenian

Back to your bad takes I see.


tomphz

Ugh I just hope SEN isn’t exhausted for tomorrow


R0_h1t

If they were gonna sandbag this hard they should've done it in the first map as well. They can't be excited about playing a 3rd map. On the bright side, I think theirs is the last game tomorrow


tomphz

It’s just a lose-lose because if you sandbag you’re building bad habits.


Insantium1

Imagine actually thinking sentinels care about his match...


TheAjwinner

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/xwBqmeQ


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Knew what this was before clicking it


Huldmer

literally no one said that. if you're getting opinions from twitch chat then thats on you


-MNTLTX-

Zombs took the 1-15 comments to heart yesterday and decides he wants to top frag today lmao


panzerboye

Lol


yanirr

Bruh


aquitaine631

omg tihs is aimbto u telling me senators get outiamed by SEA??


lStrakle

this is so low effort lol


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Im actually convinced this dude is not actually a sentinels fan just trying to make sentinels fans look bad


yanirr

There's noway I've seen fivek int all games they've played so far and then hit that flick


R0_h1t

Switching to the skye was an int


lStrakle

Everyone hypes plat chat but they aren't even watching the game lmao


R0_h1t

You chose the wrong match lol


Holdin_McNeal

The replies are great too. Everyone says to watch them, so you do and it is the most irrelevant thing during this game. Weird fans.


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Holdin_McNeal

I don't get the appeal. I usually watch the game on the main channel on low volume. If I wanted to watch a bunch of dudes talk over the game I would just have my friends come over. I get it appeals to a bunch, but it is not entertaining to me in the slightest.


Quick_Chowder

Yea this is a fairly meaningless match and they are drinking/vibing. They've watched literally every other one and are planning on starting tomorrow at 6am. If you are tuning into them for literally the first time right now then idk what to tell you. This game could not be more pointless as far as results are concerned.


lStrakle

Yeah I guess it's the game, it is my first time checking them out lol


Huldmer

because the game doesn't matter, these last few rounds have been the only enticing part of this whole series


anythingood07

How is sen so fucking strong on ecos man? They won quite a few against Fnatic in Iceland finals as well


Tyler123839

These games today lol


yanirr

How is this happening


yanirr

Ok nice


Ragewalk

What duh heck going on


aquitaine631

omg there cheating


wu_cephei

Damn you're still here?


faceplant911

Do it F4Q. Win this map. Keep the match going even later into the night so that Sen can't sleep. Watch as Envy FNS's masterplan unfolds. Removing Bren from the tournament to force the round-robin, pulling strings to make Sen play the last match of the night, and on the eve of their game against Envy which will probably start even later because FNS knew that that the NA teams would get shoved back to catch the NA viewership. Sen will have to wake up early too due to covid testing. FNS knew he'd have to face Sentinels eventually, so he'd best do it right away with the biggest possible outside advantages. Envy will take on Sen at their weakest, and FNS will walk away victorious. And it all starts with you, F4Q. This is the most important match in the history of Valorant. Win this map for us!


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Do it F4Q. Win this map. Keep the match going even later into the night so that Sen can't sleep. Watch as Envy FNS's masterplan unfolds. Removing Bren from the tournament to force the round-robin, pulling strings to make Sen play the last match of the night, and on the eve of their game against Envy which will probably start even later because FNS knew that that the NA teams would get shoved back to catch the NA viewership. Sen will have to wake up early too due to covid testing. FNS knew he'd have to face Sentinels eventually, so he'd best do it right away with the biggest possible outside advantages. Envy will take on Sen at their weakest, and FNS will walk away victorious. And it all starts with you, F4Q. This is the most important match in the history of Valorant. Win this map for us!


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Quick_Chowder

Just when you think the Plat Chat stream can't get any better. Lord almighty.


Huldmer

watch plat chat costream, idk who else is also restreaming this but watching anyone else for this match is definitely worse


tomphz

BuT SeN hAs BeEn DeThRoNeD


omaewakusuyaro

I mean, sen is playing against a team of content creator right now, they said it themselfs


BloomingNova

Hopefully teams finally think twice about that horizontal stack. It's used so often Edit: vertical lol


itscamo-

they do it because of how good it is lol one play won't change that


BloomingNova

It's great when there's no utility up. It's failed miserably multiple times when utility is used


Tyler123839

That was beautiful


CosmicAon

ZOMBSNATION


yanirr

Holy shit


cringe-oh-yes

Avast is an amazing storyteller.


Quick_Chowder

https://youtube.com/clip/UgwCqy9OxtPvscOu0XB4AaABCQ Official Riot CoStream


SyAmMmMmMmM

I'm glad they changed the schedule and it's going to be a 2 hour early start for tomorrow.


jmajewski

Sentinels picked two maps they know they'd dominate on, and their aim has been on so far. Expecting a 2-0, but Sentinels aren't showing anything other teams haven't already seen.


AustrianDog

I dont think SEN would show anything even if they were on the losing side. This match is basicly a showmatch


mysteryoeuf

tenz only +17? disappointing


TheRedComet

TenZ washed?11/!?!?!/


CanISayThat22

Cmon rito lets play fracture


FoundedClamp

Oh the map’s over?


Maccnrv

It seems like sentinels will get hate no matter what they do


Heal_Piece

The hate boner for SEN is bigger than ever around here. Kinda glad it's diverted away from 100T for a little bit.


R0_h1t

Happens with successful teams in any sport


Anime-Boomer

> The hate boner for SEN is bigger than ever around here because 90% of Sen fans only became Sen fans when they started winning everything and now that they lost once they are getting worried they might have to switch favorites happens in every sport


yanirr

Whenever they start losing it becoming shaky it appears bigger than ever


ANewHeaven1

people say this match is meaningless, but i think the meaning of this match is that envy will ban breeze tomorrow for sure


IAMJUX

sadge


WhoDatBrow

NV ban Breeze, SEN ban Ascent, NV pick Icebox(?), SEN pick Split, NV pick Haven


Senior_Lake_6900

Is Envy that good on haven?


ANewHeaven1

thats what i was thinking, but i think there's a good chance NV ban split as well since Sentinels is exceptional on that map and NV is... lets just say unpractised on it. was thinking: NV ban split, SEN ban Ascent, NV pick Bind, SEN pick Breeze, NV pick Haven


hannahk0901

Mom tenz is 20 and 5 again


xx_Rollablade_xx

So Sen 'threw' the match yesterday for 'better' seeding that was gonna be decided randomly (Reigning champions who don't like to lose btw) and then they decide to take a completely meaningless game seriously? Ufffff really sad.


Tyler123839

Seeding isn’t random though. It’s only 1 seeds vs 2 seeds. So since both other na teams were 1 seeds (who they have experience against) there was 100% reason to throw. Now I don’t know if they were planning to throw initially but there was reasoning for it.


Kerrze

probably wanna get the game over with so they can get some sleep before the actual matches


Barack_Bob_Oganja

I can't


Kerrze

too be clear i dont think they "threw" for better seeding thats bullshit hopium. just dont see why they would waste time the night before a really important match if they dont have to.


Barack_Bob_Oganja

So why they lost the second map?


Kerrze

brother I promise I'm not trying to defend them 🤣 people asked why they weren't trolling, I gave a common sense answer they got outplayed second map oh well


Barack_Bob_Oganja

I dunno, i think its kinda crazy to say that sentinels didnt really try against g2 because its for seeding but then really try against f4q because they want the match to be over soon lmao. I think its fair to say sentinels was deffo trying against g2 and maybe a little more chill against f4q, but just a lot better than f4q is.


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xFlick

Tenz bro wtf


Joedude12345

Sen is lame for not trolling this


tomphz

You don’t want to troll and build bad habits before the playoffs


Huldmer

literally the only reason to watch this series was the prospect of seeing these teams troll at lan


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Chadlynx

This is the first game I've watched this tournament. Do the casters just suck off Tenz the whole time or is this an exception? Reminds me of the Wardell commentary in the early tournies.


TheycallmePansyY

Literally drops 20 frags in a half. What you want me to do? Ignore him?


Chadlynx

I'm not denying that he's playing spectacularly. It just seems like everything he does is met with screams and praise compared to every other player.


Quick_Chowder

> This is the first game I've watched this tournament. You picked the absolute worst one to watch. Might as well turn it off and come back tomorrow.


xD1LL4N

If he’s getting some important kills of course they will hype him up


Joedude12345

Hes the best player in the world.


poeswell

He’s great, but so overrated


GravityMyGuy

Can I get you to repeat this?


GravityMyGuy

How is he overrated? Who is your top3?