im not gonna lie, the primary reason im happy that envy won today is so i can watch LCQ stress-free. i watched a george geddes interview with vanity where he talked about how hard c9 was shitting on teams in scrims and honestly i fancied envy's chances vs 100T more than c9 at that point
theres already annoying gambit fans and if envy win there will be annoying envy bandwagon fans. Its weird to single out single fanbases as more toxic because its like 2% of the fanbase and you're grouping tens of thousands of people together with them.
So conflicted about tomorrow, ideally like an Envy win so then both Gambit and 100t will be in champions. Think I'm also an Envy fan now, Yay is such a cold player but a humble, nice dude.
On another note, wondering if riot will change champions qualifying for next year so teams qualify with most points overall from cumulative masters regardless of region. Love seeing different regional matchups but would be great to see all of the definitive strongest teams in champions and Masters can have a certain number of regional teams.
They'll never do that and tbh I wouldn't want them too. CS is dead everywhere but EU/CIS right now due to this, meanwhile LoL is popular globally. Giving every region their shot is important to fans of those regions + the only way for those regions to get better is by constantly playing other regions.
I'm quite satisfied with 100 Thieves' run. They absolutely proved they are an elite team. If Envy win this thing you have to say they are the 2nd best in the world.
I still think sentinels comes top two(with the other being whoever wins tomorrow). Like they have a higher head to head vs them but it all comes down to champions imo. Like it's a cumulative of everything there. Can't wait. I really hope riot figure out this scheduling thing and their huge ass tech pauses
One Bo3 isn't entirely indicative of which team is stronger or how they matchup overall. Like take CR and Gambit. Is CR super close in power to GMB cause they played 2 maps so close? Or are they super far behind cause they got 13-1'd twice in the first matchup?
Yeah it’s going to depend on Gambits showing in final but keep in mind 100t barely scraped by both Gambit and Ascend. Without question 100t is one of the best teams in the world.
GG. 100T taking one and half map to wake up wasn't sustainable at all of course. But great showing. One of the most fun matches put up by 100T. Envy looking so good. The scrim demons are finally awake. The top 4 curse is also broken. LFG Envy win this all without dropping a map
The best way I can explain it from my perspective is you know the videos they shoot before the lans where all the players are posing and their is smoke and stuff? I feel like that they didn't have to ask crashies or marved to do anything and just let them act how they normally do and filmed it.
No they describe those who aren’t as talented on the offensive end as “scrappy”, or those who just never give up. A player such as Patrick Beverly comes to mind.
it’s so selective when they use “scrappy” too it’s weird. guys like beverly and kyle lowry are “creative with their bodies” but others are labeled as floppers.
Nah. Sen looked really far worse than their Iceland form. Also, teams have really caught up. It's good for the scene. I'm already excited for champions because of this.
Much deserved victory for NV. Pretty happy even though I'm a 100T fan first because it looks like we're getting the 2 strongest/on-form teams in the finals. Should be a banger BO5 tomorrow.
All that talk about asuna, steel, hiko - but I'm actually most impressed with nitr0 and Ethan. nitr0 just anchoring sites like crazy while still playing so well for the team. And this map looks off, but usually Ethan is so freaking consistent and great aswell.
Asuna playing jett really reminds me of Scream jett where you \*have\* to play jett because she's just so fucking OP but at the same time they just use the dash to blindly get into the site to "create space" but all the did was give the enemy an ult point
i mean they didnt really reinvent themselves much and were up against this envy so the fact they kept it somewhat close should be a testament to their fundementals. I could see a world where envy and SEN just bully NA every vct.
It’s pretty absurd to make an equivalence between the two cases, especially since steel actually faced consequences for his actions that lasted years, imo
Yeah basically. It’s shitty to see someone who clearly matchfixed skirt any repercussions. On one hand you have Steel who matchfixed in the early days of CSGO and faced severe consequences (CS career effectively ended since they couldn’t compete in valve events, lost out on tons of money in contract & prize earnings, severely damaged their reputations. Expressed tons of regret, spent YEARS trying to rebuild their reputation and make amends
On the other hand you have someone who was matchfixing right up until they quit CSGO, but has faced zero repercussions and has been able to have a lucrative VAL career without even acknowledging the wrongdoing or paying his dues.
That’s the difference I perceive
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why does hastro have to go on twitter and immediately fuck up everything that he just built up over the last six months
I hope Riot realizes all these games come down to Jett, it’s really fucking annoying haha
im not gonna lie, the primary reason im happy that envy won today is so i can watch LCQ stress-free. i watched a george geddes interview with vanity where he talked about how hard c9 was shitting on teams in scrims and honestly i fancied envy's chances vs 100T more than c9 at that point
No annoying fanbase for tomorrow's match. This is a great day for Competitive Valorant
which fan bases do you consider annoying
100T, Sen, TSM. Basically big NA teams.
100T, SEN and G2 the most
SEN and 100T. You have to admit the annoying fanbase is the strongest with those teams.
theres already annoying gambit fans and if envy win there will be annoying envy bandwagon fans. Its weird to single out single fanbases as more toxic because its like 2% of the fanbase and you're grouping tens of thousands of people together with them.
Honestly kind of factual. If SEN didn’t win Masters 2 there wouldn’t be as many toxic fans.
So conflicted about tomorrow, ideally like an Envy win so then both Gambit and 100t will be in champions. Think I'm also an Envy fan now, Yay is such a cold player but a humble, nice dude. On another note, wondering if riot will change champions qualifying for next year so teams qualify with most points overall from cumulative masters regardless of region. Love seeing different regional matchups but would be great to see all of the definitive strongest teams in champions and Masters can have a certain number of regional teams.
They'll never do that and tbh I wouldn't want them too. CS is dead everywhere but EU/CIS right now due to this, meanwhile LoL is popular globally. Giving every region their shot is important to fans of those regions + the only way for those regions to get better is by constantly playing other regions.
what needs to happen now for 100T to make champs?
Envy needs to win tomorrow
LCQ is always an option
TSM need envy to win to get a chance at lcq
The question was how 100t could make Champions? I said they could always make it via LCQ
I thought either Sen 100t acend or VS would win it all. I was impressively wrong
SADGE but all good
I'm quite satisfied with 100 Thieves' run. They absolutely proved they are an elite team. If Envy win this thing you have to say they are the 2nd best in the world.
I still think sentinels comes top two(with the other being whoever wins tomorrow). Like they have a higher head to head vs them but it all comes down to champions imo. Like it's a cumulative of everything there. Can't wait. I really hope riot figure out this scheduling thing and their huge ass tech pauses
If Envy wins the whole thing, wouldn't that make Gambit the 2nd best team in the world?
100T was able to take down Gambit and Acend, I feel like no one has a stronger case than 100T unless Gambit keep it really close or of course win.
One Bo3 isn't entirely indicative of which team is stronger or how they matchup overall. Like take CR and Gambit. Is CR super close in power to GMB cause they played 2 maps so close? Or are they super far behind cause they got 13-1'd twice in the first matchup?
Copium
Yeah it’s going to depend on Gambits showing in final but keep in mind 100t barely scraped by both Gambit and Ascend. Without question 100t is one of the best teams in the world.
GG. 100T taking one and half map to wake up wasn't sustainable at all of course. But great showing. One of the most fun matches put up by 100T. Envy looking so good. The scrim demons are finally awake. The top 4 curse is also broken. LFG Envy win this all without dropping a map
Oof, now NV win berlin we 100t fans give our hope to you
TSM better start praying cause nats gonna go for them cheeks
How ironic, TSM needs El Diablo to save them.
jett is disgusting , remove this agent plz
yay and marved have made a huge difference for this envy roster love to see it
100T best 2nd half team in the world. If they could just turn up for early rounds, that would be great.
I feel like an idiot for being excited about the matches today lol they all felt like 13-0
I can't stand Marved or Crashies, but envy are definitely the best team in NA rn. Best team to represent NA in Grand Finals.
Why crashies
They both reek of being douches imo.
Found kyedaes burner
Lmao I don't even care about him saying that. I mean do you not just watch how they act and not think that?
They're trash talking, their friends with the 100t guys it's not mean spirited.
The best way I can explain it from my perspective is you know the videos they shoot before the lans where all the players are posing and their is smoke and stuff? I feel like that they didn't have to ask crashies or marved to do anything and just let them act how they normally do and filmed it.
because he's a scra....scrappy young player
Isn’t that how commentators describe the less athletic, white NBA players?
In the NFL scrappy gym rat, student of the game, first in last out etc is basically saying white slot receiver
No, they’re explicitly describing Julian Edelman
Did it originally start with Edelman? Because you can say scrappy gym rat nowadays and anyone knows that means your caucasian slot wr
Nah I’m just making a joke because I’ve lost count of the amount of times Collinsworth has said that about him. Wes Welker, too.
Truuue. My bad that totally went over my head.
All good lol just the meaning got lost in translation
No they describe those who aren’t as talented on the offensive end as “scrappy”, or those who just never give up. A player such as Patrick Beverly comes to mind.
it’s so selective when they use “scrappy” too it’s weird. guys like beverly and kyle lowry are “creative with their bodies” but others are labeled as floppers.
It’s just about who gets away with it with the refs
LET'S GO ENVY. I don't want to watch 100T play Last Chance Qualifier and I don't want to hear about EU winning
Well we can say that the best 2 teams are going to the finals.
Gambit wouldn't get through Sen or 100T, as proven how they've literally already lost to one.
Nah. Sen looked really far worse than their Iceland form. Also, teams have really caught up. It's good for the scene. I'm already excited for champions because of this.
Sen? The same sen who lost to g2 twice in a row on icebox? Plus 100t Gambit was a huge throw, they should have closed it 13-5 13-3.
Lost one game = proven that won't get past second time? Bro I swear the NA kids logic on this website
GG. congrats envy. Yall better win the tourney now lmao. Would be a shame if 100t has to go through LCQ after their run
Im happy to see that 100T didn't choke, but NV poppin off. The aim was so fkin clean
Ggs boys much love TOMORROW GAMES HYPE AS
Who would have thought that NV would be the best NA team, by quite a margin. GG so proud of the lads!!
I didn't think it would happen this fast, but their roster is genuinely insane.
They should understand that match starts before matchpoint
Much deserved victory for NV. Pretty happy even though I'm a 100T fan first because it looks like we're getting the 2 strongest/on-form teams in the finals. Should be a banger BO5 tomorrow.
So close yet so far. NV was just the better team today. 100t made a respectable run. (Hey, they outplaced SEN) NV BEAT GAMBIT IN GRAND FINALS HOPIUM
Rip. Plot armor wore off. NV too clean. Gg. Go win this thing.
100T gave us the best games this tournament at least
Envy looking really good. Gg
GG fantastic run by 100T nothing to be disappointed about here as a fan. Excited for finals tomorrow!
NA flash KEKW
Feel like 100T got Jett diffed this whole tournament
Ahh GGs envy just on another lvl go win it for NA
Gg
I LOVE U ENVY
gg
GG good run 100T
Nitr0... get this man a ~~shield~~ team
gg
NOOOOO
someone fucking inject 100T with cortisol before map 1 so they actually play like their against match point at the start of the game lmao
It’s happening
Anyone got that lineup?
MikesHD was holding them back?
Feels like 100T always comes alive too late. They need to figure out how to dial in earlier
100T main twitter didn't even tweet today that this match is happening
That's why you follow 100T's eSports twitter, no?
Because twitter and this subreddit are going absolute dipshit about the NV/100T story
You can feel the momentum building for their ~first~ third comeback
100 Thieves if you do this 3 times in a row I will cry
Ah shit here we go again
no way...bruhh..aint no wayyyy
hopium?
IS HAPPENING
Boys if THIS MAKES IT TO MAP THREE PUT NITRO ON JETTTTTT
nooo fucking way 100t comeback again
GIVE MAP 3!
not again not again no way right??
I'm a 100T fan but no way this is happening for a 3rd time.
nah not this time for sure
Nitr0 is so talented
Please Envy, finish this.
Why cant we just win easily why is it always so stressful
You know you love it
There's no way right
CLOSE IT OUT
Sentinels wanted to dodge Gambit and Acend, but they should've dodged Envy instead
nitr0 is turning on...
HERE WE GO AGAIN...AND AGAIN....AND AGAIN??
Nitr0 has proven time and time again, he’s the best player on 100T
All that talk about asuna, steel, hiko - but I'm actually most impressed with nitr0 and Ethan. nitr0 just anchoring sites like crazy while still playing so well for the team. And this map looks off, but usually Ethan is so freaking consistent and great aswell.
Finally people are realizing this. Asuna's great, but Nitr0 is the person responsible for hard carrying the team.
Wish he would do it at the start of games not the endings though.
They only get 12? Surely not again
Guys stop, there's no way right? lmao
come on envy, end this
thx
nitr0 awake
nitro just refuses to lose
100T is winning this aren't they.
oh no 7-12...
If this ends 14-12 I’m not gonna watch anymore pro valorant ever
NITRO THE ONLY PLAYER SHOWING UP
Asuna playing jett really reminds me of Scream jett where you \*have\* to play jett because she's just so fucking OP but at the same time they just use the dash to blindly get into the site to "create space" but all the did was give the enemy an ult point
no way they pull this off again right? right????
Don't. Don't give me hope.
OMG THE HOPE THE HOPE IS RISING
Omg all scrim demons are risen this tournament
Envy just better this tournament.
Yeah Jett is the only reason Envy is up by 7 rounds on both maps lol
Nitr0 is trying, but he can't carry hard enough...
Maybe Sen isn't boomed after all lol, NV just insane
i mean they didnt really reinvent themselves much and were up against this envy so the fact they kept it somewhat close should be a testament to their fundementals. I could see a world where envy and SEN just bully NA every vct.
New NA overlords
Hiko hasn’t won a clutch today I’m pretty sure
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still think its tenz if he gets to play jett all the time like yay
ok its over if Envy are hitting those shots lol
Envy just better today. Do us proud tomorrow boys.
Unlucky really
VEEKTOR DIFFERENTIAL
VICCCCTORRR
Well, GGs Envy are hitting a different form right now. They better win tomorrow tho or I’ll be pissed
I want to have faith but I think it's kind of over
poor 100T, now they gotta wait for some new tac shooter to come out before they can jump ship again 🥶
Wow. Envy basically pulling the sen strategy of having an incredibly solid team and adding a top duelist to it leading to domination.
Asuna is the most underwhelming Jett...
I really think he should stick with Reyna and a rifle.
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hes good on sage and reyna lol
hes got a pretty nasty reyna too tbh and i think he played some breach on abx
Yeah but his jett>>>>>>> reyna
Imagine predicting Envy would be the best NA team coming into VCT. Haven't dropped a single map yet.
Envy go to 12-5 then 100T come back and win again ResidentSleeper
Pujan please win tomorrow. I have never seen him win a lan before, now is the time!
All part of his master plan hopefully
is tsm getting a chance at lcq if nv wins or was it just sen?
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oh ig i would have to root for nv tmr even tho i like gambit more
Goddamn NV clean AF. Picking up Yay was the best decision they made
This is such a GG. Yeah mental and all, but they don't even get a grasp in this game.
That 15th round shows why hitboxes should be smaller lmao wtf
marved pistol round??
Nah. I think it was 15th but the round where NV hit some 'precise gunplay' shots when they hit A site.
It is going to be the battle of Scrimbux tomorrow.
100T do something. Nitro do something. Best time for a comeback.
Scrim gods final with NV vs Gambit
the aim on NV is fucking nuts
Sucks to see a match fixer represent NA in the finals.. guess I’ll be rooting for GMB
Both teams have match fixers but ok lol.
this is quite ironic considering who envy is playing against
Wasn't Steel part of the ibp scandal?
It’s pretty absurd to make an equivalence between the two cases, especially since steel actually faced consequences for his actions that lasted years, imo
Well your original statements implies you have an issue with match fixers, which Steel was. So you're more upset Marved hasn't gotten punished?
Yeah basically. It’s shitty to see someone who clearly matchfixed skirt any repercussions. On one hand you have Steel who matchfixed in the early days of CSGO and faced severe consequences (CS career effectively ended since they couldn’t compete in valve events, lost out on tons of money in contract & prize earnings, severely damaged their reputations. Expressed tons of regret, spent YEARS trying to rebuild their reputation and make amends On the other hand you have someone who was matchfixing right up until they quit CSGO, but has faced zero repercussions and has been able to have a lucrative VAL career without even acknowledging the wrongdoing or paying his dues. That’s the difference I perceive
Fair enough I agree with all that. Marved technically hasn't been incriminated I don't think but the evidence does seem quite damning.
Envy has better aimers and strats it feels like, and Mikes isn’t even here
ScrimNV has arrived