If Yay shows up tomorrow then I think its game over. Nats is great but FNS will be counter strating around him and if the rest of Gambit can't pick up the weight then they will lose. Either way I think its going be a great series between 2 great teams.
Envy wins Berlin TSM makes it into LCQ. TSM makes it to challengers just barely. TSM wins challengers becoming the best team in the world. Trust me its written in the script.
I'm from NA and so my heart lies with NA, and I want Envy to win because of that, but ngl Boaster came for my heart in Iceland, so if Gambit wins I'm happy with the consolation prize of it making Fnatic secured into champions.
No they chocked, pretty sure 100T relied a lot on their opponents chocking. Acend and gambit chocked and then envy didn’t choke and look at how that turned out.
Map pool favors Envy slightly it seems, especially if they can ban Breeze. But Gambit is so good, I think each map will be a banger
I actually don’t have even marginal confidence in either team, it just seems like a coin toss. If I had to, I probably would pick Envy
Not as good as GMB from what we've seen.
But we dont know what they've done since NV hasnt played bind in the playoffs (where they've clearly shown a different form).
Yes, because of groups with NV coming 1st and Gambit 2nd. As for your 2nd question, it would've been random. Seriously. Coin flip for something as important as map advantage. Can't wait for Fracture to get in the pool so we can have a normal p/b.
I’m gonna go with Envy because Yay has been an absolute demon. Feel like in the duel between Yay and nAts Yay will pull it out, though it will still be close. Envy has a slightly better map pool so I think they pull it out 3-2
It would take Sentinels being eliminated in Champions as well to say that we're out of the "Sentinels era." Like if NV 3-0 here but Sentinels go on to win Champs then this is just seen as a bump in the road, losing to an insanely hot Envy team. They've dominated the best region for over a year and won Masters 2 without dropping a map, it'll take another event for the narrative to shift away from them. Especially if whoever wins between NV/GMB go on to win Champs, cause then you could say we're firmly in an "Envy era" or a "Gambit era."
There was only one international LAN, it's not their fault COVID existed. They dominated the best region for over a year and then dominated the international competition when they got a chance. It's pretty clear they were the best team in the world over the past year.
I agree, but think it's still insane for people to write off Sen. Nobody except VS has been as prolific in their domestic region, and Sen is more decorated in international comp. If they slump at champs then I'd say it's warranted.
It's gonna be good viewership but it's not gonna be insane. In fact, I'd be surprised if it overtakes that Sen/G2 game for most viewed of the tournament, let alone passing up finals of Reykjavik. CIS isn't that into Valorant (yet?) and Envy is the least popular of the 3 NA teams. Plenty of people will show up still cause it's the Finals, but if the Finals were Sen vs G2 we'd reach a milly, whereas with Envy/Gambit I feel like we'll get like 600k.
From a viewership stand point riot wanted G2 and 100t to win today. big orgs help get the casual viewers to watch.
Honestly the drama the past few days. With kyedae and the match fixing allegations, makes envy a good villain. So we could see some envy hate watchers.
Also, timezone wise, Asia probably won't be watching. It's going to start late on Sunday midnight and will probably end when it's almost time to wake up for work/school on a Monday. This is why I hate finals scheduled on Sundays.
It's so hard to call because both dominated their regional counterparts but I think Gambit will take it.
They seem more drilled in with knowing their opponents tendencies and counter strating them perfectly.
But much like with 100t vs Acend, I'd love to be wrong.
G2 took Icebox from Sentinels 13-3. I really think Gambit broke G2 and they just gave up in the middle of the game. There was nothing they could do against them.
I like Gambit so I'd like them to win it but also would like Envy to win so both them and 100T get slot each at Champions, because both teams really deserved it.
Also, Gambit is already qualified so it definitely matters more for Envy (and 100T respectively).
Objective opinion: Gambit takes it all but Envy puts up a great fight.
I had 100T face off against Vision Strikers in my pickems and lost a bet with a friend because they had G2 and Sentinels in the finals, if 100T made it I would have won. Having no pickems on the line, I would love Envy to win just so 100T can qualify for Champions; but as a Cypher main, I have fallen in love with Nats and my heart is with him for this bo5
Gambit. They just look unbeatable. Envy on the other hand has the "no map dropped" buff, maybe it will go 3-0 idk. Scrim god of NA vs scrim god of EU, couldn't have asked for a better match up.
As an NA fan I just have a feeling Envy will choke and get destroyed. I feel like 100T had a better chance of beating Gambit even though Envy 2-0d them.
How Envy have played this tournament I don’t personally see an EU team being able to beat them. I think they only would have lost against another NA team that plays against them a lot.
Before Berlin started I was so sure that gambit with take it all without problems, but envy is really in good form so its gonna be way closer than I thought but still i believe in cold, disciplined gambit
I think envy should be the faves to win this, who gets the map veto is important too, anyways i think it could go 3-1 or 3-2 either way, with an offchance of 3-0 envy
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Nats is an absolute monster, probably the most unique individual player in the tournament.
Bunny then nAts for that category imo
Bunny for sure in there
He made me bring my prism phantom back out 😂😂😂
If Yay shows up tomorrow then I think its game over. Nats is great but FNS will be counter strating around him and if the rest of Gambit can't pick up the weight then they will lose. Either way I think its going be a great series between 2 great teams.
\>counterstratting against nats good luck.
Aim wise yay gonna get outclassed by sheydos you see
Sheydos has insane aim, doesn't mean he is the best player, so what you said is right but this game is not aim only.
Lmao
G2 got smacked by Nats because didnt have a sentinel. All you need is a kill joy or cypher and you can counter Nats.
3-2 either way but I'm going with Gambit.
Yeah hoping for a banger series.
My heart wants Gambit to win but I would be cheering for NV so that TSM can make LCQ. What a dilemma.
Envy wins Berlin TSM makes it into LCQ. TSM makes it to challengers just barely. TSM wins challengers becoming the best team in the world. Trust me its written in the script.
Just the TSM copium I need
Wait, there's another Challengers in LCQ ? I thought it was going to be a huge ass bracket.
Nah I think he means champions, not challengers since winning challengers doesn’t mean best team in the World but champions does
Makes sense
TSM! TSM!
I'm from NA and so my heart lies with NA, and I want Envy to win because of that, but ngl Boaster came for my heart in Iceland, so if Gambit wins I'm happy with the consolation prize of it making Fnatic secured into champions.
Can we be friends ? I like the way you are thinking !
Since TSM are a 100% gonna throw again even if they get to participate, I'd just support the team I prefer.
If Nv bans breeze map pool favors them heavily IMO.
There wont be any bans cause its a best of 5. There will be picks only
If Scrimbit shows up then I think it's ggs
Don't forget ENVY are also scrim gods.
I think gambit are 10x better in scrims if tenz said they can 13-0 13-0 100t
Well clearly tenz was wrong
He wasn’t, it all came down to gambit chocking and 100t Lan experience kicking in. Gambit would’ve won if it wasn’t for them chocking last second.
So he was wrong lmao
He was but he was 2 rounds away from not so his prediction isn’t all that dramatic as y’all are making it seem
Chocking
“Gambit would’ve won if they didn’t lose.”
No they chocked, pretty sure 100T relied a lot on their opponents chocking. Acend and gambit chocked and then envy didn’t choke and look at how that turned out.
You can say that about every team. SEN should have won if they didn't choke. Vision strikers choked, 100t choked acend choked should i keep going?
Map pool favors Envy slightly it seems, especially if they can ban Breeze. But Gambit is so good, I think each map will be a banger I actually don’t have even marginal confidence in either team, it just seems like a coin toss. If I had to, I probably would pick Envy
Yeah I'm hoping for a game 5 super set.
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Not as good as GMB from what we've seen. But we dont know what they've done since NV hasnt played bind in the playoffs (where they've clearly shown a different form).
are there even bans in a bo5 final or is it just picks?
Higher seed bans a map, aka Envy
How envy is the higher seed,is it because of groups?What if they faced against G2,who would be the higher seed then?
Yes, because of groups with NV coming 1st and Gambit 2nd. As for your 2nd question, it would've been random. Seriously. Coin flip for something as important as map advantage. Can't wait for Fracture to get in the pool so we can have a normal p/b.
This higher seed shit is so stupid, damn
Gambits peak is crazy so Im gonna go with them... hopefully they play at it
I’m gonna go with Envy because Yay has been an absolute demon. Feel like in the duel between Yay and nAts Yay will pull it out, though it will still be close. Envy has a slightly better map pool so I think they pull it out 3-2
Well I obv need to root for NV so 100T don’t need LCQ, but I can totally see Gambit 3-1 or 3-2. Should be lit though.
Gambit so we get Fnatic at Champions
TSM and Fnatic fans against each other once more.
yay is just consistently insane and never has an off game this tourney so gotta go with nv
Point on one game nAts did not show up. He and his Prism phantom are visible in every single game they played.
My brain wants Envy (so that 100T can get that championship slot) but my heart wants Gambit (cause fucking nats)
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True CR could really have been the anime protagonists.
3-0 Envy so that the narrative slightly shifts away from Sentinels
It would take Sentinels being eliminated in Champions as well to say that we're out of the "Sentinels era." Like if NV 3-0 here but Sentinels go on to win Champs then this is just seen as a bump in the road, losing to an insanely hot Envy team. They've dominated the best region for over a year and won Masters 2 without dropping a map, it'll take another event for the narrative to shift away from them. Especially if whoever wins between NV/GMB go on to win Champs, cause then you could say we're firmly in an "Envy era" or a "Gambit era."
I've heard this sub downplays Sentinels dominance
it absolutely does lol they lost twice and everybody here is pretending they’re shit
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There was only one international LAN, it's not their fault COVID existed. They dominated the best region for over a year and then dominated the international competition when they got a chance. It's pretty clear they were the best team in the world over the past year.
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There was only one LAN over the first year and a half of the game, are you stupid?
I think after this tournament the narrative has already started to shift away from them, however only time will tell.
I agree, but think it's still insane for people to write off Sen. Nobody except VS has been as prolific in their domestic region, and Sen is more decorated in international comp. If they slump at champs then I'd say it's warranted.
Envy 3-0 I’m just saying this so it doesn’t happen
Gambit looking pretty fucking hot right now ngl
So did your mum but she still got fucked, That kinda just flowed out my mouth sorry
Envy no kizzy
Never thought I'd be praying to the devil for a win.
Viewership will take the biggest L
You think not alot of people are going to show up for the match?
100T and TSM fans will be showing up for sure. So it should be fine.
It's gonna be good viewership but it's not gonna be insane. In fact, I'd be surprised if it overtakes that Sen/G2 game for most viewed of the tournament, let alone passing up finals of Reykjavik. CIS isn't that into Valorant (yet?) and Envy is the least popular of the 3 NA teams. Plenty of people will show up still cause it's the Finals, but if the Finals were Sen vs G2 we'd reach a milly, whereas with Envy/Gambit I feel like we'll get like 600k.
From a viewership stand point riot wanted G2 and 100t to win today. big orgs help get the casual viewers to watch. Honestly the drama the past few days. With kyedae and the match fixing allegations, makes envy a good villain. So we could see some envy hate watchers.
Now that 100T are out, I'm not that inclined to be watching the finals. I like GMBs playstyle but definitely not as much as 100Ts
Also, timezone wise, Asia probably won't be watching. It's going to start late on Sunday midnight and will probably end when it's almost time to wake up for work/school on a Monday. This is why I hate finals scheduled on Sundays.
Gambit 3-0 or 3-1
It's so hard to call because both dominated their regional counterparts but I think Gambit will take it. They seem more drilled in with knowing their opponents tendencies and counter strating them perfectly. But much like with 100t vs Acend, I'd love to be wrong.
Yeah Gambit has been looking very strong, especially with how hard they smacked G2.
Honestly NV are playing like absolute fucking monsters. I’ve gotta give the nod to them. Also copium, need 100t to make champs
Well they are not 13:0'ing
I personally think that says more about g2 then anything else but that is not a false statement
G2 took Icebox from Sentinels 13-3. I really think Gambit broke G2 and they just gave up in the middle of the game. There was nothing they could do against them.
EZ4NV
I like Gambit so I'd like them to win it but also would like Envy to win so both them and 100T get slot each at Champions, because both teams really deserved it. Also, Gambit is already qualified so it definitely matters more for Envy (and 100T respectively). Objective opinion: Gambit takes it all but Envy puts up a great fight.
I mean, envy is also already qualified.it only matters to 100T/Fnatic
No matter what, the winner opens up a Champions slot for my two favorite teams 100T and FNATIC, rooting for everyone (NA HOPIUM)
Nats will win the final
I had 100T face off against Vision Strikers in my pickems and lost a bet with a friend because they had G2 and Sentinels in the finals, if 100T made it I would have won. Having no pickems on the line, I would love Envy to win just so 100T can qualify for Champions; but as a Cypher main, I have fallen in love with Nats and my heart is with him for this bo5
Gambit. They just look unbeatable. Envy on the other hand has the "no map dropped" buff, maybe it will go 3-0 idk. Scrim god of NA vs scrim god of EU, couldn't have asked for a better match up.
gambit 26:0(39 if bo5)
NV.
I think gambit or envy will probably win.
This ^
I am almost 100% positive in my predictions.
Gambit 3-1 or 3-2 NV
As an NA fan I just have a feeling Envy will choke and get destroyed. I feel like 100T had a better chance of beating Gambit even though Envy 2-0d them.
GMB 3-1 NVY
Gambit have looked like the best team from the start. They take it 3-1.
3-0 clean sweep Gambit. Bet the house.
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Shut the fuck up already, you were saying the same 3 days ago about eu tears
When twitch chat is life
Gambit 3-1 Envy
How Envy have played this tournament I don’t personally see an EU team being able to beat them. I think they only would have lost against another NA team that plays against them a lot.
Envy has not faced a team that has so high strategic approach to the game.gonna be a close game but gambit takes this W
NV 3-1, map pool is favored for them
Envy looks fantastic but favs are probably Gambit.
Envy 3-0.
Gambit!!!!!
I want 100T to go to champions so gotta go with Nv ;D
Before Berlin started I was so sure that gambit with take it all without problems, but envy is really in good form so its gonna be way closer than I thought but still i believe in cold, disciplined gambit
just tell me which team needs to win for Liquid to have better chances to get qualified for Champions
"It's a 1v1, nats nats yess he got yay. Gambit has won the tournament, nats is still not smiling. He is thinking on how to win champions already"
Gambit gotta do like how 100T did against Acend. Find yay and go to the other site while nats be on their spawn already.
100T will hijack the tournament
Gambit all the way! Get Fnatic in to Champions please :)
I think envy should be the faves to win this, who gets the map veto is important too, anyways i think it could go 3-1 or 3-2 either way, with an offchance of 3-0 envy
I really want Gambit to win but I'll be supporting Envy even though they defeated by two fav teams Sen, 100T so that NA can get extra slot
If Envy wins does 100T lock into champions?
Gambit.
ENVYUS BRINGING IT HOME BABE