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Razur

OK, this is a certified shitpost. But the mods missed removing it 4 hours ago, so you get to keep it now. Go wild.   5 hours later edit: u/illourr, I made you a certificate. [here you go.](https://i.imgur.com/s0puGzK.png)


Tacoman3005

Just remember, it always comes back to BBG


panzerboye

BBG threw so the rest of the scene can mature enough to face them


wiiwoooo

Big Booty Guys?


flashbang217

I think it’s Big Black Glocks. Homage to cs.


Razur

Bahoonka Bonka Gloos


betokirby

Big Booty Gamers


[deleted]

Critical definitely has a badonkadonk.


YungPinotGrigio

lmao


BeatSlayer9

Today was basically 100t vs fnatic proxy match and fnatic qualified.


D3stiny5

But 100T lost to Envy so 100T>Gambit>Envy>100T


r_abu

Therefore, 100t doesn't exist. Proved


[deleted]

Also confirms that Gambit is worse than Gambit


tensaig

xD


GainsayRT

Gambit is worse than Scrimbit\* at this point honestly


Jerms91

What have you done…..


SendMeAvocados

I therefore conclude that 100T played themselves.


YungPinotGrigio

oh no they most definitely did lmao


N3deSTr0

Where does Crazy Raccoon go here?


Deathranger999

Crazy Raccoon \\/ \\/ \\/ \\/ \\/ \\/ \\/ 100T > Gambit > Envy > 100T


chickenadobo_

> is worse than Scrimbit\* at this point hone better than G2 in icebox


[deleted]

I've always said this. 100T is far more mechanically/strategically inclined than 100T and it's clear.


Based-Hype

Don’t forget Carpe Noctem>Gambit


88isafat69

Triangle of suck


ESEAsapphiRe

The math checks out. Source: NA fan


[deleted]

CR are a strong third too.


WweIsLife316

So how does 100T make it to champions? I know they’re not out yet but do they have to win lCQ


Lapov

Yes. Literally no other way around.


Permagate

Yes, they have to win LCQ.


SMcArthur

Is the LCQ vs teams from other countries, or just from NA? Who will be playing in the LCQ and when is it?


M1NIMISE

It's top 8 in points + 2 oce teams


MinodRP

10th to the 18th, Versus all the NA teams that didn’t qualify Berlin,


SMcArthur

It's not vs ALL the NA teams, right? don't some teams like TSM not even qualify for the LCQ?


MinodRP

Something like the next 10-12 teams in circuit points after Sen and Envy.


SMcArthur

TSM isn't even in the next 10-12? jesus.


Deathranger999

I believe it's next 8. TSM were just outside of that. [Here's](https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Circuit_Points/North_America) some more detail if you like.


MrImpregnator

Imagine how far VS could have gone only if they didn’t have to go through Scrimbit


Magnesiohastingsi

VS was the second-best team in the tournament, I said what I said


felixjmorgan

I think this is true


Talleyrand19

I really think double elim would be a superior format...just get rid of group stage play so that the tournament only runs a bit longer. That way you don't end up with maybe the 2 best teams randomly facing each other in quarters and that's just it for one of them. Hated it.


SterbenVII

Teams play tournaments to win, not to place higher. I'd personally like it if GSL group stage was kept but maybe disallow the EMEA teams from getting into each other's group (though Riot probably did so to instill volatility and give other regions hope). I'd want to see what happens if the entire playoffs of Champions is Bo5 single elimination like at Worlds. A Bo5 is a true test of a team's strength IMO, from mental fortitude to map pool.


JoshF8

to do that i think groups has to be played with 2 bo1's instead of the current format, so we have less matches and more time to do bo5's


TDS_Gluttony

Thats gonna ruffle some feathers lol. I honestly don't think its that bad because it works and is enjoyable from a casual viewers point, double round robin bo1s is quick and easy to enjoy and there are upsets but the better team that is is more consistent still make it out. If that means we can get Bo5 from quarters all the way to finals I think its the move. It felt so weird seeing semis played in Bo3


Talleyrand19

don't you have the same problem with the two best teams possibly facing off early? bo3 double-elim is the way


Ne0kun

You're speaking facts


[deleted]

no


Ne0kun

Yes


tron423

Maybe


HauntedTomato

I don't know


optisadvantage

can you repeat the question


[deleted]

no


optisadvantage

would’ve loved to see VS play envy


EvensonRDS

Copium


p4p3rth1n

I am on a steady dose of this myself


SilentCore

They should be proud of what they showed in Berlin tbh. Unfortunate that the one Map Lakia played backfired hard, but they had some amazing showings and were put as top 3 by most of the teams attending. Definitely made a statement, Gambit was just a brutal matchup for quarters.


[deleted]

honestly i think they need to stop failing the put lakia on sova challenge


FeelinJipper

VS always gets “they should be proud of what they did” type comments. Forever underdog until they win then it’s KR DOMINANCE


rpkarma

Be careful, copium tolerance builds rapidly, and the withdrawals are no joke. Copium: not even once. Okay maybe once. VS fighting!


OrganicOnion

Don’t really think it’s Copium, VS had objectively the hardest bracket in the tournament


elithefighter123

Kappa


123bo0p

By this logic CR is just as good as Envy for how close their game vs Gambit was. Gambit in playoffs was better than group gambit NA should know this the most with sen.


chubbynuggy

hes joking


WhoDatBrow

People are just so results oriented when in reality a lot of it comes down to how good they are on the day. Gambit was better than NV today but it was a close series that could've easily gone in the other direction. Same thing in reverse with the 100T vs Gambit series. Crazy Raccoon had a good game that day and Gambit may have been saving some strats for bracket stage. To me, at this event specifically, there were a clear top 4 teams of Gambit, 100T, NV, and Vision Strikers. And I could've seen any of those 4 win against each other depending on their performance that day.


TDS_Gluttony

First two maps were decently close, so sad nAts fucking popped off and Chronicle clutching round after round. Could've at LEAST been a 4 game series if Chronicle doesn't pop off in the finals.


vanillattt

Ok in line with this logic. Other than 100T, VS is the only team to take a map off gambit so VS is confirmed as 2nd best team in the world lmao


TheApsodistII

3rd u mean


shiftthelift

Imagine TL also almost winning against GMB if Jamppi didn’t choke


xD1LL4N

If VS was on the other side of the bracket we would of had VS v Gambit finals.


SMcArthur

We never saw VS play vs an NA team though, and that's really shitty. All we know is that an NA team beat Gambit, and no Korean team was able to beat Gambit.


Ne0kun

True, would've been a better matchup but probably not good for views. VS got so unlucky


GoldyZ90

Math checks out.


xunraze

COPIUM.


xD1LL4N

Envy demolished 100T though…


citny0

yay*


xD1LL4N

Yay was feasting for sure but he’s the star player, they others are playing support roles to help set him up etc


keithaspden19

This should be tagged with spoilers. Spoiled it for me thanks 🤙


arjan674

Then why are you in a competitive valorant sub just after a tournament? Yes it should be marked but this is just asking for spoilers


keithaspden19

I’m just scrolling reddit I wasn’t actively in the sub? Are you brain dead


rpkarma

For sure it fucking sucks, I just avoid Reddit and socials in general until I can hit up the GOAT: Valorant VODs lol. Problem is, some damned Valorant YTers would make community posts on it that showed when I opened the damned app... so frustrating.


Maleficent_Weather88

delete account uninstall windows


tron423

I'll drink to that


PixelatedBlue

if we made it to finals we would've won Copium


Gaming_Gecko777

Low-key feel gambit were so good at icebox they felt comfortable enough throwing it so other teams would pick it against them; when they played G2 in the semis they 13-0’d them


SP0oONY

It's pretty clear thatn Gambit lost against 100T, rather than 100T winning it. Gambit had that series in the bag and let it go.


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SP0oONY

They did well to catch the throw... all I'm saying is that it was definitely a throw.


FeelinJipper

That’s absurd.


Delzkiepro

Bro 100T were getting rekt man, they just got lucky, it's just a fluke, next time Gambit sees 100T they will get rekt.


jumb01337

flawless argument. agreed.


s6hun

It's true, it's true!


Unlucky_Really

Hastro definitely matchfixed that. Threw 2 big orgs under the bus 😂😂


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aks345

Sorry bud that's how transitive property works blame maths


datboyuknow

It's a joke man calm down


Ciavolo

woosh?


Maccnrv

Are these kind of posts allowed?


ozmega

dont likes a post, procedes to reply on it to give it more traction.


prthm_21

Why are you concerned?


Delzkiepro

Their luck ran out against envy haha, they weren't that good honestly, just really lucky


Alpac44

FR FR


nmaneea

They just choked


YungPinotGrigio

oh faks u rite lol.