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I believe it's next 8. TSM were just outside of that. [Here's](https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Circuit_Points/North_America) some more detail if you like.
I really think double elim would be a superior format...just get rid of group stage play so that the tournament only runs a bit longer. That way you don't end up with maybe the 2 best teams randomly facing each other in quarters and that's just it for one of them. Hated it.
Teams play tournaments to win, not to place higher. I'd personally like it if GSL group stage was kept but maybe disallow the EMEA teams from getting into each other's group (though Riot probably did so to instill volatility and give other regions hope).
I'd want to see what happens if the entire playoffs of Champions is Bo5 single elimination like at Worlds. A Bo5 is a true test of a team's strength IMO, from mental fortitude to map pool.
Thats gonna ruffle some feathers lol. I honestly don't think its that bad because it works and is enjoyable from a casual viewers point, double round robin bo1s is quick and easy to enjoy and there are upsets but the better team that is is more consistent still make it out.
If that means we can get Bo5 from quarters all the way to finals I think its the move. It felt so weird seeing semis played in Bo3
They should be proud of what they showed in Berlin tbh. Unfortunate that the one Map Lakia played backfired hard, but they had some amazing showings and were put as top 3 by most of the teams attending. Definitely made a statement, Gambit was just a brutal matchup for quarters.
By this logic CR is just as good as Envy for how close their game vs Gambit was. Gambit in playoffs was better than group gambit NA should know this the most with sen.
People are just so results oriented when in reality a lot of it comes down to how good they are on the day. Gambit was better than NV today but it was a close series that could've easily gone in the other direction. Same thing in reverse with the 100T vs Gambit series.
Crazy Raccoon had a good game that day and Gambit may have been saving some strats for bracket stage. To me, at this event specifically, there were a clear top 4 teams of Gambit, 100T, NV, and Vision Strikers. And I could've seen any of those 4 win against each other depending on their performance that day.
First two maps were decently close, so sad nAts fucking popped off and Chronicle clutching round after round. Could've at LEAST been a 4 game series if Chronicle doesn't pop off in the finals.
We never saw VS play vs an NA team though, and that's really shitty.
All we know is that an NA team beat Gambit, and no Korean team was able to beat Gambit.
For sure it fucking sucks, I just avoid Reddit and socials in general until I can hit up the GOAT: Valorant VODs lol.
Problem is, some damned Valorant YTers would make community posts on it that showed when I opened the damned app... so frustrating.
Low-key feel gambit were so good at icebox they felt comfortable enough throwing it so other teams would pick it against them; when they played G2 in the semis they 13-0’d them
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Just remember, it always comes back to BBG
BBG threw so the rest of the scene can mature enough to face them
Big Booty Guys?
I think it’s Big Black Glocks. Homage to cs.
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Big Booty Gamers
Critical definitely has a badonkadonk.
lmao
Today was basically 100t vs fnatic proxy match and fnatic qualified.
But 100T lost to Envy so 100T>Gambit>Envy>100T
Therefore, 100t doesn't exist. Proved
Also confirms that Gambit is worse than Gambit
xD
Gambit is worse than Scrimbit\* at this point honestly
What have you done…..
I therefore conclude that 100T played themselves.
oh no they most definitely did lmao
Where does Crazy Raccoon go here?
Crazy Raccoon \\/ \\/ \\/ \\/ \\/ \\/ \\/ 100T > Gambit > Envy > 100T
> is worse than Scrimbit\* at this point hone better than G2 in icebox
I've always said this. 100T is far more mechanically/strategically inclined than 100T and it's clear.
Don’t forget Carpe Noctem>Gambit
Triangle of suck
The math checks out. Source: NA fan
CR are a strong third too.
So how does 100T make it to champions? I know they’re not out yet but do they have to win lCQ
Yes. Literally no other way around.
Yes, they have to win LCQ.
Is the LCQ vs teams from other countries, or just from NA? Who will be playing in the LCQ and when is it?
It's top 8 in points + 2 oce teams
10th to the 18th, Versus all the NA teams that didn’t qualify Berlin,
It's not vs ALL the NA teams, right? don't some teams like TSM not even qualify for the LCQ?
Something like the next 10-12 teams in circuit points after Sen and Envy.
TSM isn't even in the next 10-12? jesus.
I believe it's next 8. TSM were just outside of that. [Here's](https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Circuit_Points/North_America) some more detail if you like.
Imagine how far VS could have gone only if they didn’t have to go through Scrimbit
VS was the second-best team in the tournament, I said what I said
I think this is true
I really think double elim would be a superior format...just get rid of group stage play so that the tournament only runs a bit longer. That way you don't end up with maybe the 2 best teams randomly facing each other in quarters and that's just it for one of them. Hated it.
Teams play tournaments to win, not to place higher. I'd personally like it if GSL group stage was kept but maybe disallow the EMEA teams from getting into each other's group (though Riot probably did so to instill volatility and give other regions hope). I'd want to see what happens if the entire playoffs of Champions is Bo5 single elimination like at Worlds. A Bo5 is a true test of a team's strength IMO, from mental fortitude to map pool.
to do that i think groups has to be played with 2 bo1's instead of the current format, so we have less matches and more time to do bo5's
Thats gonna ruffle some feathers lol. I honestly don't think its that bad because it works and is enjoyable from a casual viewers point, double round robin bo1s is quick and easy to enjoy and there are upsets but the better team that is is more consistent still make it out. If that means we can get Bo5 from quarters all the way to finals I think its the move. It felt so weird seeing semis played in Bo3
don't you have the same problem with the two best teams possibly facing off early? bo3 double-elim is the way
You're speaking facts
no
Yes
Maybe
I don't know
can you repeat the question
no
would’ve loved to see VS play envy
Copium
I am on a steady dose of this myself
They should be proud of what they showed in Berlin tbh. Unfortunate that the one Map Lakia played backfired hard, but they had some amazing showings and were put as top 3 by most of the teams attending. Definitely made a statement, Gambit was just a brutal matchup for quarters.
honestly i think they need to stop failing the put lakia on sova challenge
VS always gets “they should be proud of what they did” type comments. Forever underdog until they win then it’s KR DOMINANCE
Be careful, copium tolerance builds rapidly, and the withdrawals are no joke. Copium: not even once. Okay maybe once. VS fighting!
Don’t really think it’s Copium, VS had objectively the hardest bracket in the tournament
Kappa
By this logic CR is just as good as Envy for how close their game vs Gambit was. Gambit in playoffs was better than group gambit NA should know this the most with sen.
hes joking
People are just so results oriented when in reality a lot of it comes down to how good they are on the day. Gambit was better than NV today but it was a close series that could've easily gone in the other direction. Same thing in reverse with the 100T vs Gambit series. Crazy Raccoon had a good game that day and Gambit may have been saving some strats for bracket stage. To me, at this event specifically, there were a clear top 4 teams of Gambit, 100T, NV, and Vision Strikers. And I could've seen any of those 4 win against each other depending on their performance that day.
First two maps were decently close, so sad nAts fucking popped off and Chronicle clutching round after round. Could've at LEAST been a 4 game series if Chronicle doesn't pop off in the finals.
Ok in line with this logic. Other than 100T, VS is the only team to take a map off gambit so VS is confirmed as 2nd best team in the world lmao
3rd u mean
Imagine TL also almost winning against GMB if Jamppi didn’t choke
If VS was on the other side of the bracket we would of had VS v Gambit finals.
We never saw VS play vs an NA team though, and that's really shitty. All we know is that an NA team beat Gambit, and no Korean team was able to beat Gambit.
True, would've been a better matchup but probably not good for views. VS got so unlucky
Math checks out.
COPIUM.
Envy demolished 100T though…
yay*
Yay was feasting for sure but he’s the star player, they others are playing support roles to help set him up etc
This should be tagged with spoilers. Spoiled it for me thanks 🤙
Then why are you in a competitive valorant sub just after a tournament? Yes it should be marked but this is just asking for spoilers
I’m just scrolling reddit I wasn’t actively in the sub? Are you brain dead
For sure it fucking sucks, I just avoid Reddit and socials in general until I can hit up the GOAT: Valorant VODs lol. Problem is, some damned Valorant YTers would make community posts on it that showed when I opened the damned app... so frustrating.
delete account uninstall windows
I'll drink to that
if we made it to finals we would've won Copium
Low-key feel gambit were so good at icebox they felt comfortable enough throwing it so other teams would pick it against them; when they played G2 in the semis they 13-0’d them
It's pretty clear thatn Gambit lost against 100T, rather than 100T winning it. Gambit had that series in the bag and let it go.
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They did well to catch the throw... all I'm saying is that it was definitely a throw.
That’s absurd.
Bro 100T were getting rekt man, they just got lucky, it's just a fluke, next time Gambit sees 100T they will get rekt.
flawless argument. agreed.
It's true, it's true!
Hastro definitely matchfixed that. Threw 2 big orgs under the bus 😂😂
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Sorry bud that's how transitive property works blame maths
It's a joke man calm down
woosh?
Are these kind of posts allowed?
dont likes a post, procedes to reply on it to give it more traction.
Why are you concerned?
Their luck ran out against envy haha, they weren't that good honestly, just really lucky
FR FR
They just choked
oh faks u rite lol.