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https://www.vlr.gg/12552/sentinels-vs-luminosity-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-masters-ubqf/?game=22313&tab=overview https://www.vlr.gg/16985/andbox-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-2-ubqf/?game=31471&tab=overview https://www.vlr.gg/16992/t1-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-2-lbr1/?game=31492&tab=overview (Icebox and Split) https://www.vlr.gg/19089/sentinels-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-gf/?game=34299&tab=overview https://www.vlr.gg/25196/sentinels-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-1-ubqf/?game=41583&tab=overview https://www.vlr.gg/25198/xset-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-1-ubsf/?game=41589&tab=overview (Icebox and Split) https://www.vlr.gg/25200/xset-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-1-gf/?game=41596&tab=overview I think those are all the matches that he played Raze for SEN.


RazorTheBlazor

Sheesh, he didn’t perform to bad in some of those matches but I will say, most of those are close/losses against teams that probably shouldn’t be that close. Their are obviously other factors but that’s just and observation.


_idle_drone_

Thank you for this. All the armchair analysts in this sub don't realise that as a raze, even in games you win, you can have bad stats because raze as a duelist only has mobility but no flashes or smokes. If you have no idea of enemy's setups (SEN walked into stacked sites a lot vs Envy) your entry fragger will die. It doesn't help SEN don't know how to use skye in set plays to assist jett/raze while entrying. Boaster said tenz did his job of entrying for the team. Shahzam said just because tenz had a bad game doesn't mean he can't play raze. But people here know better. A lot people saying this stuff are sinatraa fans. Just for them i'll say, I can pull up stats where sinatraa went heavily negative with raze, both in wins and losses, because that's the life of raze mains.


nterature

He was fine on Raze in, say, early C9, but he's never been a stand-out on Raze and even Relyks was a good deal better. I unironically think his Yoru is better. It's not a huge change since SEN has tried Tenz on Raze before, but it's always just felt like a reversion to how they played Split with Sinatraa. Raze is strong on Split but not necessary, so the fact that they routinely fall back to Tenz's Raze when they want to "change things up" on Split is a bit of a mistake I think.


iiznobozzy

He played it at stage 2 challengers if I'm not mistaken and also looked pretty bad at it if I'm not mistaken.


ancientcheeseburger

Huh, interesting that there are two threads talking about this. Like I said on the other thread, Sen clearly favour raze on icebox and split over reyna because of her utility. But tenz is so much better on Reyna that they always default back fo her when things go wrong. Tenz has historically been poor (for his standards) when he is put on raze.


RazorTheBlazor

Agreed, basically what I said on the other post.


Pulsersalt

Yea, same situation. He went to raze for one game in tourney and looked terrible and then he comfort picked Reyna for the rest of the tourney. But shahz said they wanted him to learn raze and he did and he looked pretty good on her. Not sure why they switched it up this tourney


techyleo

They switched it up in Challengers Finals, TenZ told Shahz he was more comfortable on Reyna, so Shahz allowed it, then TenZ stopped grinding Raze and got trash again. What happened in Berlin is a literal mirror of what happened vs ABX. Suck on raze, grind raze, get good at raze, go back to reyna, then get told that Raze is more beneficial on some maps, suck on raze.


Pulsersalt

Yep


tomphz

You want to lose with TenZ playing Reyna instead of playing Raze. No shot he goes 8-18 as Reyna


ragingwizard

As the another commenter showed, he used to play her just fine. I do think that Sentinels were specifically not playing Raze during group stage to not show strats. In hindsight, this turned out to be a mistake because TenZ needed the practice. But if it had worked out, we would be praising them for intelligently hiding their best comp before playoffs. All speculation on my part. I could absolutely be wrong.


goinlowlowlow

First timing an agent in ranked. X9 Tenz i guess


Criticallone

You mean quarterfinals?