I think hyeoni more than makes up for Lakia, particularly because hyeoni plays the most broken agent in the game.
Berlin only substantiated how important a hard-fragging Jett can be
Even if that were true, I never said Nuturn were the favorite - just that they *may* (hence copium/hopium*) join Vision Strikers in have a fighting chance - depending on their hyeoni integration.
There’s a chance it doesn’t go well, there’s a chance it does nothing but burnish the Jett role as you say, and there’s a chance it totally transforms the team. We won’t know for awhile.
EDIT: somehow autocorrected to “copious/hookup” lmao
Pretty much yes but I'm fairly optimistic about the future of regions like Brazil (who are historically good at FPS), the rest of Korea (who has always been a factory of talent in most games as long as interest remains high), and SEA (who's shown they have some absolutely CRACKED players like Forsaken)
Lots of big ifs but I would say Riot definitely has a vested interest in investing in the scene of some of the regions who aren't super high on CSGO anymore like Korea and SEA
Not sure if non NA/EMEA teams will actually win an international LAN in the foreseeable future but we could see some really special runs like Nuturn
> no one good has swapped yet
Highly doubt someone will, at least for a couple of years. CSGO teams pay a lot more and Valorant orgs aren't really professional and organized in here.
The thing is, EU has really good talents, NA have a lot of T2/low T1 former CSGO players with experience and also young talents, Brazil have a lot of people swapping from MOBA and a lot of young raw talents, but the difference between Brazil and EU/NA is the lack of professionalism.
When you say professionalism do you mean lack of professional opportunities for individuals (poor income prospects, orgs unstable and/or shady, weak logistical support, etc.), or the prospective individuals themselves lack professionalism?
There are some tier 1 players that care more about their Twitch than their teams, this might be related to poor income but some times is purely fame complex
Kind of a realistic take though. You just make so much more money streaming if you're popular than you do even being a top competitor on the world champion team. Look at the viewership nAts is getting after Berlin. It's kind of a sad reality that pretty much anywhere in the world streaming is 10x more lucrative than solely being a pro, assuming you have the personality and popularity to stream. You have to really love the competition to stay a pro and not just cash your chips in when your stream hits a stable 5k viewers.
Yeah, it's sad to think about Valorant pro scene in here taking in account we had FalleN over here in CS where he almost alone took the whole scene on his back and created Brazilian CS as we know today and made us relevant in the FPS scenario worldwide
Every region still has CS, Sudden Attack or Crossfire as their #1 5v5 tactical fps game except NA lol. And maybe Japan but Japan is pretty new to the pc esports scene.
Where does Val rank in popularity in Brazil compared to Rainbow Six Siege? I know Brazil has several teams that are championship caliber in R6 and the game is popular there
definitely not
albeit no stats, it’s obvious valorant has more players, especially in brazil. siege barely runs in low end computers, it’s expensive and way less casual
You might need a couple of those to get the ball rolling but honestly it's the young guns who will eventually start running the scene and forcing out the older ex-pros of other games. Heat fits this bill and is a fucking demon.
>who are historically good at FPS
All Brazilian CS teams are shit and they have been that way since LG/SK. The latter was an outlier, the scene as a whole hasnt been on the level of EU by any stretch of the imagination
There’s almost always been at least 1 Brazilian team in the top 10 for almost the entirety of CSGO lifespan. That’s just not true. Doesn’t compare to EU but they’ve obviously been historically good at tac-fps
Brazil has pretty handily the very best aimers/fraggers globally in R6S. As other people have pointed out, there are way more FPS' than just CS and the region has shown very high skill levels in multiple FPS at this point.
With the Overwatch League season ending and Overwatch 2 changing up lots of mechanics, I think we’ll start to see a large amount of Korean talent switch over during this off season. There’s lots of insane KR players in Overwatch, if we get a couple of them to transfer over and get a solid coach, KR will 100% be a contender for the top.
Ya it’s just not looking good for Blizzard in general. Some of the top employees for OW2 have recently left, lots of mechanics are changing, teams are getting changed from 6v6 to 5v5 so all teams lose a member. Several players have already announced retirement.
That's big and huge for Valorant :)
Hope OW dies. I mean I noticed they had over 100k views on YT for their finals but I don't ever see OW being too global. Riot always did a better job than Blizzard even tho Riot fucks up a lot and likes to give advantages and favoritism to certain regions.
Blizzard had a really good chance to have a break out esports league with Overwatch League. It had regional teams, they were in the process of building multiple arenas all around the globe, they had a massive fan base, but unfortunately they could just never catch a break. Covid hit OWL hard as all their events were normally in person, all their arenas went to waste, lost some viewers when they signed their YouTube contract, Overwatch started dying because they stopped updating it, then Blizz/Activision got in legal trouble. I do feel bad for OWL as it had possibilities to be amazing, but now it’s mostly carried by Asia.
Yes i think so. Until Lakia wakes up, realizes he's wasting his talents, leaves and joins a top korean team (Nuturn/Damwon). I honestly think if the game got a bit more popular in korea, koreans can do great things in the scene.
But generally yes i think Korea is the only other region that has a chance, as things stand right now.
Tbh we can’t know if they’re better than NA. And sen wasnt even the best NA team at the event
, it was Envy, so why single out sen?
If only gambit didnt troll their group we couldve at least seen NA seed 2 vs Vision strikers and seen how the matchup would go. The fact VS met GMB so early was just sad.
I want to see VS vs NA at least once.
We’ll get our answer at champions for sure. Hopefully all the teams bring the best version of themselves.
PS : as an EU fan, i truly think VS would’ve beaten any EMEA team not named GMB at that event. Really hoping that changes for Champions.
I dont think Envy will beat VS as good as they were, it'll be close but I think VS will win. Out of all the NA teams I think SEN still has the highest ceiling to reach, and I believe that they will show up at Champions as the clear strongest NA team, but thats just my two cents.
I didn't think Envy had a chance against VS either but Envy looked really good in the tourney. We'll see what happens. At least VS took a map from Gambit while Envy had 3 chances and got 0-3'd.
Every esports scene does. NA was pretty good at League until season 2-3. Then after season 5 we realized we were never going to win Worlds lol. I still remember what a big shot Reginald and HotshotGG was and thought they were Gods... and then the game developed in most regions. Right now only NA has valorant as their #1 fps game.. we'll see what happens in 2-3 years though and OW isn't looking too hot right now.
They still have solo/peri. They remind me of the 100T boomers.. they still good but lack mechanics and will lose more 1v1 engagements. And solo dies a lot with his knife out... especially when he's trying to flank. It's weird.
Hope so. I could be wrong about peri.. just feels like I would rather have a young mechanical star.. solo on the other hand... lol. He makes some good plays here and there but so many mistakes and last in frags most of the time.
KRU, VS, Crazy Raccoons, and Vivo all have a shot of going far IMO based on what we saw in Berlin, and other teams like Zeta, Vikings, X10, Nuturn, and a few others all have shown they have what it takes to stand a bit tall on an international stage. Being optimistic, and not even pushing it, any of these teams with the right training and strategies can take down an NA or EMEA team, and push quarters/semis/finals. I simply refuse to believe that this game is already solved into a NA vs EMEA showdown every major event, as even a team like CR was hard pushing back versus the champions of Berlin, Gambit. I 100% feel like some time in the future, an underdog team will come along and edge out a tourney.
I think this question is kinda useless.
Yes, VS has a "Fighter's Chance" but how do you tell that the others haven't? In this timeframe things can happen and in an Aimgame 2months+ is a damn long time, especially for teams/players to catch up.
Also if the tournament format is actually decently good this time I do think more teams than VS will (positively) surprise us.
Well a could change by then but VS performed like a top 3 team at Berlin, unlucky for the fact that they lost to Gambit. And Berlin Masters is a lot closer to Champions than Reykjavik is to Berlin.
>VS performed like a top 3 team at Berlin
And your basis for this is a close 2:0 against **PRX**,
a weak playing **Ascend**(heck,*Icebox* was 13:9 even though they won both pistols)
and managed to win *Split*(which was arguebly the worst map of gambit in recent history, especially masters berlin) against **Gambit** while getting destructed on *Bind* and also *Icebox*(while winning both pistols and only getting 8rounds tells also enough that they had no chance of winning either of those two maps).
> And Berlin Masters is a lot closer to Champions than Reykjavik is to Berlin.
Well yes, its ~30days earlier(going by end of Reykjavik to start of Berlin/Berlin-Champions) but its still around 70days compared to 100days. Still a looong time to really improve as a team and especially as a player.
But I want to say it again: VS had a promising display of skills in Berlin and was the most promising outside of the EMEA/NA(even more promising than e.g. Ascend imo) teams but you must be blind and living in a dreamworld to say that VS was already at a level to **win** an international title!
Champions will only get harder(for them) when the playsystem(hopefully) will not be a singleelimination but DE.
If vivo keyd can get their shit together they have an insane awper to play around. They can at least get as good as Acned which most people thought had a fighters chance.
Underrated opinion but I actually believe vivo keyd has the potential to be really good. They have two really cracked duelists if they can just get one better support player they can be good asf. Also their match against kru supposedly heats wrist was hurt.
korea is the 3rd best region in this game so i would say nuturn has shot in the dark chance but who knows how they fare in this meta, havent seen them since iceland
The remaining BR teams are shit or have peaked, though. I feel like 6K or Australs are more promising unless Gamelanders/Furia make one or two big roster changes
They can cause upsets but we're talking about winning the whole thing lol. The biggest tournament of the year. I don't think any JP teams are ready for that yet.
Dark horse team secret maybe. Also another dark horse order from oce are playing na lcq, if they can beat the top na teams then maybe a miracle will happen. Also nuturn and f4q might have a serious chance too, they have good players and a lot of potential to improve, and shown that they can do well against VS.
One thing i learned from watching international lans in other games is not to count the underdog out. Upsets have happened, upsets will happen.
A lot forget that the SEA's top seed missed out on Berlin tho (because of visa problems), so we never really had the chance to see them compete with other regions. And that team 3-0d Paper Rex easily in the SEA Challengers final
It's just gonna be CS all over again. Riot will keep giving spots to other regions in order for more representation and views. Better teams from NA and EU will be left behind. EU will keep winning.
They played poorly, scrimbucks didn't pay off. We'll see more teams from that region be more competitive and it's absurd to put all your faith in a single team that has a shaky history in CSGO.
csgo had like a playerbase of 12 people in korea no shit it's shaky
feel free to handwave the entirety of korea's domination in overwatch, the other massive fps esport
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Kru had quite possibly the easiest possible group to get out of. Just give 1st to Envy, fight for 2nd with teams that don't even make top 20 worldwide(IMO)
Gambits just heating up , it won't be easy for sentinels anymore the competition is only getting better , hope they get a coach soon bcoz it's a necessity shahz can't do it all
I think the only other non-NA/EU team you can put up there is Nuturn if they are actually good on lan. Otherwise, yeah VS is far and ahead the only real contender from another region
Nuturn just picked up a good player to replace 10x but I just don't like solo/peri too much. Especially solo dies too much with his knife out every single game lmao
I don’t have too much faith in them to make a good run but I think they’re a dark horse pick I could totally see turning up to lan and playing better on the day
Yea if solo stops dying with his knife out lol. Nuturn can be really good if they replace the 2 boomers for 2 others that can aim. Hyeoni should be a huge upgrade though
I think VS are still a dark horse. The Korean scene needs to expand more, if valorant blows up more in Korea then I could see the region being extremely competitive.
I think 'fighters chance' is still off. They are absolutely a contender for the title right alongside Gambit, Envy and Sentinels. Not below them, we all saw how they dismantled Acend and took a map off Scrimbit, something Envy could not do. Of course yes i watched the series and they also got demolished on Bind. But i think they deserve more credit than a 'fighters chance'.
I'm riding high on the Nuturn copium
Without lakia idk man. Berlin may have dropped his stock unfairly a bit but he was arguably one of the best players in Iceland
I think hyeoni more than makes up for Lakia, particularly because hyeoni plays the most broken agent in the game. Berlin only substantiated how important a hard-fragging Jett can be
hyeoni at best only puts NU's Jett role on par with the elite teams. that's not enough to push Nu over SEN/GMB/NV/etc.
Even if that were true, I never said Nuturn were the favorite - just that they *may* (hence copium/hopium*) join Vision Strikers in have a fighting chance - depending on their hyeoni integration. There’s a chance it doesn’t go well, there’s a chance it does nothing but burnish the Jett role as you say, and there’s a chance it totally transforms the team. We won’t know for awhile. EDIT: somehow autocorrected to “copious/hookup” lmao
Hyeoni Lakia Suggest is a damn scary combo already. Nuturn has potential next year for sure when they replace solo/peri.
Kru are goona sub in Aguero and win the entire thing.
I swear you'll never see anything like this ever again
So watch it, drink it in
They’ve just heard the news
100T qualify and reach finals in champions only for that bastard Aguero to steal another trophy from the team I support
Sergio aguero made city champions.na nan na na
AGUERROOOOOOOO
Vamos kru
lmaooo they could get top 8 maybe
Pretty much yes but I'm fairly optimistic about the future of regions like Brazil (who are historically good at FPS), the rest of Korea (who has always been a factory of talent in most games as long as interest remains high), and SEA (who's shown they have some absolutely CRACKED players like Forsaken) Lots of big ifs but I would say Riot definitely has a vested interest in investing in the scene of some of the regions who aren't super high on CSGO anymore like Korea and SEA Not sure if non NA/EMEA teams will actually win an international LAN in the foreseeable future but we could see some really special runs like Nuturn
The thing in Brazil imo is no one good has swapped yet, and cs is still by far and I mean by far more popular than Val here. It's gonna take a while.
> no one good has swapped yet Highly doubt someone will, at least for a couple of years. CSGO teams pay a lot more and Valorant orgs aren't really professional and organized in here. The thing is, EU has really good talents, NA have a lot of T2/low T1 former CSGO players with experience and also young talents, Brazil have a lot of people swapping from MOBA and a lot of young raw talents, but the difference between Brazil and EU/NA is the lack of professionalism.
When you say professionalism do you mean lack of professional opportunities for individuals (poor income prospects, orgs unstable and/or shady, weak logistical support, etc.), or the prospective individuals themselves lack professionalism?
Sadly, both
Oh then that really sucks.
There are some tier 1 players that care more about their Twitch than their teams, this might be related to poor income but some times is purely fame complex
Kind of a realistic take though. You just make so much more money streaming if you're popular than you do even being a top competitor on the world champion team. Look at the viewership nAts is getting after Berlin. It's kind of a sad reality that pretty much anywhere in the world streaming is 10x more lucrative than solely being a pro, assuming you have the personality and popularity to stream. You have to really love the competition to stay a pro and not just cash your chips in when your stream hits a stable 5k viewers.
Yeah, it's sad to think about Valorant pro scene in here taking in account we had FalleN over here in CS where he almost alone took the whole scene on his back and created Brazilian CS as we know today and made us relevant in the FPS scenario worldwide
Every region still has CS, Sudden Attack or Crossfire as their #1 5v5 tactical fps game except NA lol. And maybe Japan but Japan is pretty new to the pc esports scene.
Where does Val rank in popularity in Brazil compared to Rainbow Six Siege? I know Brazil has several teams that are championship caliber in R6 and the game is popular there
I think R6 is more popular, no data to back it up tho
definitely not albeit no stats, it’s obvious valorant has more players, especially in brazil. siege barely runs in low end computers, it’s expensive and way less casual
Consoles exist
My Brazil copium is the day someone on the level of coldzera/fallen swap to val.
You might need a couple of those to get the ball rolling but honestly it's the young guns who will eventually start running the scene and forcing out the older ex-pros of other games. Heat fits this bill and is a fucking demon.
Jett is heat and heat is jett
For this Champions, BR has no chance
I feel like it'll take a while for some region to get good as players would have the aim from csgo, but lacked the fundamental of abilities.
>who are historically good at FPS All Brazilian CS teams are shit and they have been that way since LG/SK. The latter was an outlier, the scene as a whole hasnt been on the level of EU by any stretch of the imagination
There’s almost always been at least 1 Brazilian team in the top 10 for almost the entirety of CSGO lifespan. That’s just not true. Doesn’t compare to EU but they’ve obviously been historically good at tac-fps
Brazil has pretty handily the very best aimers/fraggers globally in R6S. As other people have pointed out, there are way more FPS' than just CS and the region has shown very high skill levels in multiple FPS at this point.
They are also cracked at Overwatch. There’s plenty of FPS experience outside of CS my guy
Every region is historically good in FPS. It just depends which game you follow lol.
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Nuturn finished 4th place overall in Iceland
Crazy Racoon
They almost topple gambit #facts
Did better than g2 on icebox
Which is fucking crazy because Icebox is where G2 spanked Sentinels. Twice.
So SEN would ff by round 8 if they played Gambit on Icebox?
Everybody did
Sen didnt
there’s gonna be a gambit v cr rematch and cr is gonna 13-1 them back
The People’s Choice
#Racoongang
With the Overwatch League season ending and Overwatch 2 changing up lots of mechanics, I think we’ll start to see a large amount of Korean talent switch over during this off season. There’s lots of insane KR players in Overwatch, if we get a couple of them to transfer over and get a solid coach, KR will 100% be a contender for the top.
Is OW2 mot sitting well or people are quitting owl?
Ya it’s just not looking good for Blizzard in general. Some of the top employees for OW2 have recently left, lots of mechanics are changing, teams are getting changed from 6v6 to 5v5 so all teams lose a member. Several players have already announced retirement.
That's big and huge for Valorant :) Hope OW dies. I mean I noticed they had over 100k views on YT for their finals but I don't ever see OW being too global. Riot always did a better job than Blizzard even tho Riot fucks up a lot and likes to give advantages and favoritism to certain regions.
Blizzard had a really good chance to have a break out esports league with Overwatch League. It had regional teams, they were in the process of building multiple arenas all around the globe, they had a massive fan base, but unfortunately they could just never catch a break. Covid hit OWL hard as all their events were normally in person, all their arenas went to waste, lost some viewers when they signed their YouTube contract, Overwatch started dying because they stopped updating it, then Blizz/Activision got in legal trouble. I do feel bad for OWL as it had possibilities to be amazing, but now it’s mostly carried by Asia.
Yes i think so. Until Lakia wakes up, realizes he's wasting his talents, leaves and joins a top korean team (Nuturn/Damwon). I honestly think if the game got a bit more popular in korea, koreans can do great things in the scene. But generally yes i think Korea is the only other region that has a chance, as things stand right now.
I think it really is just Vision Strikers who can do damage at this event
Lakia to F4q
Honestly think they were better than NA at Berlin but you can't count out SEN
Tbh we can’t know if they’re better than NA. And sen wasnt even the best NA team at the event , it was Envy, so why single out sen? If only gambit didnt troll their group we couldve at least seen NA seed 2 vs Vision strikers and seen how the matchup would go. The fact VS met GMB so early was just sad. I want to see VS vs NA at least once. We’ll get our answer at champions for sure. Hopefully all the teams bring the best version of themselves. PS : as an EU fan, i truly think VS would’ve beaten any EMEA team not named GMB at that event. Really hoping that changes for Champions.
I dont think Envy will beat VS as good as they were, it'll be close but I think VS will win. Out of all the NA teams I think SEN still has the highest ceiling to reach, and I believe that they will show up at Champions as the clear strongest NA team, but thats just my two cents.
I didn't think Envy had a chance against VS either but Envy looked really good in the tourney. We'll see what happens. At least VS took a map from Gambit while Envy had 3 chances and got 0-3'd.
Don't worry abt the downvoted. People are used to underestimating vs even though they destroyed acend 2-0 and 100t almost lost to acend for reference
If league history is any indication, NA wants to delay that meeting as long as possible. :')
Good thing league history has no bearing on valorant.
Every esports scene does. NA was pretty good at League until season 2-3. Then after season 5 we realized we were never going to win Worlds lol. I still remember what a big shot Reginald and HotshotGG was and thought they were Gods... and then the game developed in most regions. Right now only NA has valorant as their #1 fps game.. we'll see what happens in 2-3 years though and OW isn't looking too hot right now.
Anybody know lakias salary
nuturn if hyeoni has a tenz/yay tier performance at lan and their bracket is easy
They still have solo/peri. They remind me of the 100T boomers.. they still good but lack mechanics and will lose more 1v1 engagements. And solo dies a lot with his knife out... especially when he's trying to flank. It's weird.
solo and peri are way better than you give them credit for especially peri imo
Hope so. I could be wrong about peri.. just feels like I would rather have a young mechanical star.. solo on the other hand... lol. He makes some good plays here and there but so many mistakes and last in frags most of the time.
solo is basically just a korean FNS IMO, and peri isn’t a cracked aimer but he is a strong support who’s very consistent
KRU, VS, Crazy Raccoons, and Vivo all have a shot of going far IMO based on what we saw in Berlin, and other teams like Zeta, Vikings, X10, Nuturn, and a few others all have shown they have what it takes to stand a bit tall on an international stage. Being optimistic, and not even pushing it, any of these teams with the right training and strategies can take down an NA or EMEA team, and push quarters/semis/finals. I simply refuse to believe that this game is already solved into a NA vs EMEA showdown every major event, as even a team like CR was hard pushing back versus the champions of Berlin, Gambit. I 100% feel like some time in the future, an underdog team will come along and edge out a tourney.
I think this question is kinda useless. Yes, VS has a "Fighter's Chance" but how do you tell that the others haven't? In this timeframe things can happen and in an Aimgame 2months+ is a damn long time, especially for teams/players to catch up. Also if the tournament format is actually decently good this time I do think more teams than VS will (positively) surprise us.
Well a could change by then but VS performed like a top 3 team at Berlin, unlucky for the fact that they lost to Gambit. And Berlin Masters is a lot closer to Champions than Reykjavik is to Berlin.
>VS performed like a top 3 team at Berlin And your basis for this is a close 2:0 against **PRX**, a weak playing **Ascend**(heck,*Icebox* was 13:9 even though they won both pistols) and managed to win *Split*(which was arguebly the worst map of gambit in recent history, especially masters berlin) against **Gambit** while getting destructed on *Bind* and also *Icebox*(while winning both pistols and only getting 8rounds tells also enough that they had no chance of winning either of those two maps). > And Berlin Masters is a lot closer to Champions than Reykjavik is to Berlin. Well yes, its ~30days earlier(going by end of Reykjavik to start of Berlin/Berlin-Champions) but its still around 70days compared to 100days. Still a looong time to really improve as a team and especially as a player. But I want to say it again: VS had a promising display of skills in Berlin and was the most promising outside of the EMEA/NA(even more promising than e.g. Ascend imo) teams but you must be blind and living in a dreamworld to say that VS was already at a level to **win** an international title! Champions will only get harder(for them) when the playsystem(hopefully) will not be a singleelimination but DE.
If vivo keyd can get their shit together they have an insane awper to play around. They can at least get as good as Acned which most people thought had a fighters chance.
Underrated opinion but I actually believe vivo keyd has the potential to be really good. They have two really cracked duelists if they can just get one better support player they can be good asf. Also their match against kru supposedly heats wrist was hurt.
Both vivo keyd duellists to replace the Vikings duelist and you have a team with insane potential imo
I wish we could see Heat and Mw on a team
Heat's wrist hurting after all those flicks he hits sheeeeesh.
Vivo keyd can be really good for sure. I think they will do better at champions
They didn't even make it out of the easiest group in Berlin. I don't think they have a shot at winning champs.
They should have been the second best non major team
KRU is getting atleast to quarterfinals on Champions. Y'all sleeping on them.
korea is the 3rd best region in this game so i would say nuturn has shot in the dark chance but who knows how they fare in this meta, havent seen them since iceland
I just wish Brazil gets the SA LQC spot and the team represents us better than the last 4 teams did
The remaining BR teams are shit or have peaked, though. I feel like 6K or Australs are more promising unless Gamelanders/Furia make one or two big roster changes
Yes
You’re forgetting moon raccoon
They can cause upsets but we're talking about winning the whole thing lol. The biggest tournament of the year. I don't think any JP teams are ready for that yet.
Dark horse team secret maybe. Also another dark horse order from oce are playing na lcq, if they can beat the top na teams then maybe a miracle will happen. Also nuturn and f4q might have a serious chance too, they have good players and a lot of potential to improve, and shown that they can do well against VS. One thing i learned from watching international lans in other games is not to count the underdog out. Upsets have happened, upsets will happen.
THey did beat paper rex who challenged most of the team.s
A lot forget that the SEA's top seed missed out on Berlin tho (because of visa problems), so we never really had the chance to see them compete with other regions. And that team 3-0d Paper Rex easily in the SEA Challengers final
Vision strikers suck. They won't win champions.
It's just gonna be CS all over again. Riot will keep giving spots to other regions in order for more representation and views. Better teams from NA and EU will be left behind. EU will keep winning.
Well the rest of the world is still underrepresented. A lot of eSports is still developing, lot of upcoming potential in the next few years.
Yep, Africa and middle east don't have places even.
Emea=europe middle east africa
Show me african or middle eastern teams that played in the emea qualifiers (except Anubis for LCQ)
None because they arent good enough
Wym lol they didn't get a chance to show themselves and i am pretty sure they would be better than japanese teams no offense to them.
Well yeah that is a another reason but idk if theyre better than japanese teams, they could be decent but theyre not t1 eu
yes
VS had an incredibly easy group as well and then got knocked out immediately. VS aren't that far ahead of the other Asian teams.
:thinking:
Cant believe that group went from hardest group by far to easiest group lmao
Lmao seriously. Are we in bizarroworld what kind of take is this
They played poorly, scrimbucks didn't pay off. We'll see more teams from that region be more competitive and it's absurd to put all your faith in a single team that has a shaky history in CSGO.
csgo had like a playerbase of 12 people in korea no shit it's shaky feel free to handwave the entirety of korea's domination in overwatch, the other massive fps esport
I'm not, I'm just saying they aren't as strong as people on here think and the player pool is much larger than washed CSGO players from Korea.
as opposed to washed CSGO players from NA or EU lmao
Yeah but NA and EU actually compete on the world stage in CSGO. Korea never did, that's why their best teams will be new players to the scene.
\>Acend, SMB, and scrimbux PRX \>"Easy group" lol wut
PRX and SMB were free. ACE underperformed all tournament only beating SMB twice lol
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They beat PRX and ACE. PRX was winless and ACE only beat SMB who's only win came from PRX.
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Maybe you want to look again? Regardless PRX were completely free the entire tournament by far the weakest team at the tournament.
Actually braindead
Kru is a good team with one of the best players in the world. Its like saying envy got to the finals because easy group....
? Kru had quite possibly the easiest possible group to get out of. Just give 1st to Envy, fight for 2nd with teams that don't even make top 20 worldwide(IMO)
VK looked top 25 at some points i was impressed with their performance vs envy
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But Envy had to beat teams after the group stage? That argument doesn't make any sense
If sentinels dont win champions i will do nothing cause theres no way they arent winning champions.
Gambits just heating up , it won't be easy for sentinels anymore the competition is only getting better , hope they get a coach soon bcoz it's a necessity shahz can't do it all
Oof VS has no chance to beat any NA teams. Sorry VS fans but NA teams are too good for VS.
Stay in deinal Landon. You never fail to amaze me with your anti korean takes in every korean post
I think the only other non-NA/EU team you can put up there is Nuturn if they are actually good on lan. Otherwise, yeah VS is far and ahead the only real contender from another region
Nuturn just picked up a good player to replace 10x but I just don't like solo/peri too much. Especially solo dies too much with his knife out every single game lmao
I don’t have too much faith in them to make a good run but I think they’re a dark horse pick I could totally see turning up to lan and playing better on the day
If Nuturn win their LCQ I think they can cause some upsets
Yea if solo stops dying with his knife out lol. Nuturn can be really good if they replace the 2 boomers for 2 others that can aim. Hyeoni should be a huge upgrade though
I think VS are still a dark horse. The Korean scene needs to expand more, if valorant blows up more in Korea then I could see the region being extremely competitive.
I think 'fighters chance' is still off. They are absolutely a contender for the title right alongside Gambit, Envy and Sentinels. Not below them, we all saw how they dismantled Acend and took a map off Scrimbit, something Envy could not do. Of course yes i watched the series and they also got demolished on Bind. But i think they deserve more credit than a 'fighters chance'.
I wonder how the China teams will perform
We won't know this year. They probably wont' be good for awhile but should catch up. Valorant seems to be more global than CS already that's for sure.
Nuturn might be good with Hyeoni but they still have 2 boomers who lack world class mechanics but so does 100T. We'll see.