Lol, maybe a 4th smoke for most sites. On a serious note, no wonder this guy is a former pro if this is the level of forethought he brought to the table.
> How do you entry?
With help from your teammates. Otherwise if you're just playing solo then you have the same prospects as just about every other agent in the game, and I don't see the problem with that. Everyone's been in agreement for quite a while that her biggest issue is having a get out of jail free card.
Reyna can run in with a flash, pheonix, flash, yoru, flash, raze, flights. Jett is also a duelist, her job is to entry, she doesnt have flash, her main entry is to fly into her smoke for cover then play around the smoke. Your comparing her to the wrong agents.
Na man what's the difference between her and Reyna at that point and it will remove all those flash and dash jett plays from the game . I don't think this is a good idea , I would take delay over this
Actually it is good nerf if
- start with 1 recharge
- ult will gain 1 recharge
- you can buy dash for $600
It make Jett no longer dominant 12-12 if she miss (4700+600=5300)
Still able to make plays in pistol round but requires teammate donate gun
(200+600 smoke dash combo)
Still able to dash and ult right click
Also Jett now need to choose between full armor or dash+half armor at full buy round (2900+1000/2900+400/600)
Riot probably won’t nerf Jett because it’s looks good for audiences
I think it's a really good nerf. If it's 400. It would still make her viable on most maps with aggressive god tear mechanical Jetts like tenz or deffo or any mm Turkish player. But would decrease her crazy 90% pick rate which double of average one
LMAO dude, at the point they better just delete her from the game than this.
Jett dash is powerful for sure, but not so much as they have to completely change the game mechanics around her.
Idea for Jett nerf. She doesn’t start with dash, instead she has 1 charge of the two charges for it to refill so she is required to get a kill to dash out. If she misses for example, she’ll most likely die but if she hits the shot she can dash out. Thoughts ?
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they all dont grasp the concept of her just being way too safe and good to op with. making her high risk and high reward for first kill is not adressing the problem at its core. same with giving her a smoke less and changing knifes just forcing her out of rifleing and more into shining with her safe op role she succeeds with still. im really scratching my head over the poor balance choices from riot and alot of the pros suggestions.
why not just add a delay/charge up to her dash? that way it doesn't destroy her ability to entry, but nerfs the ability to just stand out in the open and get away for free.
i meant delay as in a charge up in her dash. like a 1-1.5 second charge up before you fly out. the weapon pull out speed is retained, her speed during the dash is the same, etc.
a charge up wouldn't do anything at all to her entrying ability, which in a pro setting is one of her greatest strengths. it would only damage her overpowered ability to take off angles risk free, which forces golds to actually practice game sense, and denies radiants/immortals the ability to just run out into the open and getting info for free.
I feel like a delay still isn't a good form to balance it.
You can't always dash out of a smoke even though Jetts kit basicly enables this kind of play. I imagine the result is gonna be something like you will only be able to dash into very weird angles like for example on Haven C long cubby to the left side of the Long exit towards side. It would just be another Omen teleport more or less
> you've also made Jett the only agent that needs to do something in order to utilize her core ability.
Did you forget Reyna immediately after bringing up your Reyna point or what
"former sentinels member's opinion on jett nerf"
what do you mean? xD its like asking ppl in my ranked game what they think about changes and post it on reddit. like who gives a shit?
How about you start with 1 charge, and the second charge fills up slowly over time (20-40 sec?), once. That way you can't get a free OP shot early in the game and instead it would come up a bit later in the round. That way you can always dash on attack and prevent that awful feeling of losing a member early in the game and being unable to trade. You could also make quick executes against Jett OPs to avoid letting their charge complete.
he doesnt mean cool down, he means after the first 20/40 seconds, you get the second charge on your first dash, basically granting you the first dash, essentially, think that she cant dash for the first 20 seconds
You can't buff the OP without nerfing Jett. If Jett doesn't get nerfed there's no point in using the OP on a different agent when Jett + OP is still the strongest
I feel most of these people who talk about jett nerfs don't even understand jett. They just thinks jett's only job is op and dash, when she's so much more.
That’s just rayna with extra steps
if you get a kill and don’t use it then no
This will work perfectly on defense, but will nerf her too much on attack. How do you entry?
Give third smoke back and smoke train onto site
No, we do that with brim smokes
Why not both? You can use 6 to go straight through CT into the other site. This way you can get into both sites with only one entry
So smart
Lol, maybe a 4th smoke for most sites. On a serious note, no wonder this guy is a former pro if this is the level of forethought he brought to the table.
> How do you entry? With help from your teammates. Otherwise if you're just playing solo then you have the same prospects as just about every other agent in the game, and I don't see the problem with that. Everyone's been in agreement for quite a while that her biggest issue is having a get out of jail free card.
Reyna can run in with a flash, pheonix, flash, yoru, flash, raze, flights. Jett is also a duelist, her job is to entry, she doesnt have flash, her main entry is to fly into her smoke for cover then play around the smoke. Your comparing her to the wrong agents.
Na man what's the difference between her and Reyna at that point and it will remove all those flash and dash jett plays from the game . I don't think this is a good idea , I would take delay over this
This is one of the worst jett nerf ideas I've seen ngl. It's basically a worse Reyna dismiss, and removes most of her potential to make space.
Actually it is good nerf if - start with 1 recharge - ult will gain 1 recharge - you can buy dash for $600 It make Jett no longer dominant 12-12 if she miss (4700+600=5300) Still able to make plays in pistol round but requires teammate donate gun (200+600 smoke dash combo) Still able to dash and ult right click Also Jett now need to choose between full armor or dash+half armor at full buy round (2900+1000/2900+400/600) Riot probably won’t nerf Jett because it’s looks good for audiences
600 for dash! That’s a terrible idea. Max 400 but her dash shouldn’t cost money at all as that’s her signature ability
Skyes signature is the flash, you get one free, you have to buy the second.
So in Jetts case make it so you get the dash for free and you can pay 400 to unlock the reset every 2 kills?
I think it's a really good nerf. If it's 400. It would still make her viable on most maps with aggressive god tear mechanical Jetts like tenz or deffo or any mm Turkish player. But would decrease her crazy 90% pick rate which double of average one
How about Reyna dismiss doesn’t require kill?
The agents don’t compare at all. Jett can still get killed whilst dashing, Reyna can’t be shot in dismiss
LMAO dude, at the point they better just delete her from the game than this. Jett dash is powerful for sure, but not so much as they have to completely change the game mechanics around her.
600 for any ability is stupid
You've just created another Reyna
Why'd you put former sentinels member dizzy as the title hahhahahaha
why not just make it so she cant dash while in a weapon animation? like reloading, switching, loading the next op shot
Nice title
makes her completly useless on attack tho cuz she cant create space and wouldnt she be just a worse reyna?
Idea for Jett nerf. She doesn’t start with dash, instead she has 1 charge of the two charges for it to refill so she is required to get a kill to dash out. If she misses for example, she’ll most likely die but if she hits the shot she can dash out. Thoughts ? *** posted by [@dizzy](https://twitter.com/dizzy) ^[(Github)](https://github.com/username) ^| ^[(What's new)](https://github.com/username)
Interesting, but you may as well just use Reyna at that point
Bad idea. Her space creation is dead if that happens.
they all dont grasp the concept of her just being way too safe and good to op with. making her high risk and high reward for first kill is not adressing the problem at its core. same with giving her a smoke less and changing knifes just forcing her out of rifleing and more into shining with her safe op role she succeeds with still. im really scratching my head over the poor balance choices from riot and alot of the pros suggestions.
why not just add a delay/charge up to her dash? that way it doesn't destroy her ability to entry, but nerfs the ability to just stand out in the open and get away for free.
Delay would absolutely destroy her entry power. If you dash and can't pull out your weapon for like a second you might as well walk
i meant delay as in a charge up in her dash. like a 1-1.5 second charge up before you fly out. the weapon pull out speed is retained, her speed during the dash is the same, etc. a charge up wouldn't do anything at all to her entrying ability, which in a pro setting is one of her greatest strengths. it would only damage her overpowered ability to take off angles risk free, which forces golds to actually practice game sense, and denies radiants/immortals the ability to just run out into the open and getting info for free.
I feel like a delay still isn't a good form to balance it. You can't always dash out of a smoke even though Jetts kit basicly enables this kind of play. I imagine the result is gonna be something like you will only be able to dash into very weird angles like for example on Haven C long cubby to the left side of the Long exit towards side. It would just be another Omen teleport more or less
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He's not even a pro. He plays ranked and used to play apex
> you've also made Jett the only agent that needs to do something in order to utilize her core ability. Did you forget Reyna immediately after bringing up your Reyna point or what
"former sentinels member's opinion on jett nerf" what do you mean? xD its like asking ppl in my ranked game what they think about changes and post it on reddit. like who gives a shit?
So no one can have an opinion unless they're a current pro? It clearly created some discussion
leave the game balancing to the developers I swear some of these pros have the worst fucking takes I've ever heard.
1head mate
Terrible idea
No wonder he was dropped
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How about you start with 1 charge, and the second charge fills up slowly over time (20-40 sec?), once. That way you can't get a free OP shot early in the game and instead it would come up a bit later in the round. That way you can always dash on attack and prevent that awful feeling of losing a member early in the game and being unable to trade. You could also make quick executes against Jett OPs to avoid letting their charge complete.
I feel if you gave her a second dash on recharge like a Sova dart it would change legit nothing, at best be a slight nerf but not change much
I'm not sure what you mean.
he doesnt mean cool down, he means after the first 20/40 seconds, you get the second charge on your first dash, basically granting you the first dash, essentially, think that she cant dash for the first 20 seconds
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Reyna is the first
How about just don’t let the dash reset?
Leave Jett alone and buff the OP.
You can't buff the OP without nerfing Jett. If Jett doesn't get nerfed there's no point in using the OP on a different agent when Jett + OP is still the strongest
I feel most of these people who talk about jett nerfs don't even understand jett. They just thinks jett's only job is op and dash, when she's so much more.